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=> GENERAL DISCUSSION => Topic started by: sweetcell on April 12, 2007, 05:32:00 pm
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Originally posted by Hoya Paranoia:
Originally posted by Jaguar:
Hoya, please be careful what kinds of ideas you throw around. Someone might just actually book them.
i've always been fascinated by the demographics of the DC/MD/VA area
i'm guessing their fanbase consists of 20 and 30-somethings who grew up in between DC and MD, maybe went to Towson or UMCP/UMBC for school, maybe didn't, and never really left their hometown ... the same ones you see in dewey and ocean city
it seems like there's a similar demographic of "young adults" (20 to 30-somethings) in northern virginia who grew up in fairfax, went to radford or JMU or something, and stayed in their hometown ... but it doesn't seem like the virginians move to maryland or vice-versa, and they DEFINITELY don't move into DC proper
i'm guessing these are the people who vote for Junk Food or Gonzo's Nose as the best local band in those annual washpost polls
does any of this make sense or is it way off base? not trying to be demeaning at all, just curious [/b]
no, you're definitely on to something. i find that people from NoVa and MD very much stick to their hometowns. and virginians HATE going to MD and vice-versa. you'd swear it's another country or something. i once dated a lifer from ballston, and proposed that we grab dinner at a new place in bethesda. she looked at me like i was speaking mandarin. we ended up not going.
i'm completely unfamiliar with the repetoire of JCS, but they've always struck me as a college band that people don't grow out of. some people go to eagles and stones concerts to relieve their youth, but if you're going to be hometown minded then gonzo's nose is a logical choice.
btw, it's the marylanders who end up at dewey and ocean shitty for the most part. virginians go to virginia beach.
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Funny you mention Dewey Beach and Ocean City regarding this band. It was during the summer of '94/'95/'96 (one of those years but can't remember exactly which) that I saw Jimmy's Chicken Shack several times at clubs in Ocean City. This was back when I was teaching and would spend much of my summer at my parent's condo down the Ocean. Which ever year it was, JCS was one of the house bands, so to speak, for a couple of the nightclubs. This was just before HFS fell in love with them. So, you may very well be dead on with your theory.
Personally, that summer, I can't say I was a big fan of their's but they weren't that bad either. Then again, I guess they were a breath of fresh 'Alternative' air in relation to most of the other crap that ended up on most of the local stages. All of the visiting students from the UK sure loved them.
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Or maybe it's Hoya whom I should credit for this theory. ;)
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Maybe she wasn't into you?! How can anyone refuse to go to a restaurant in Bethesda?! :roll:
Originally posted by sweetcell:
i once dated a lifer from ballston, and proposed that we grab dinner at a new place in bethesda. she looked at me like i was speaking mandarin. we ended up not going.
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Originally posted by Joe Marshmallow III:
Maybe she wasn't into you?! How can anyone refuse to go to a restaurant in Bethesda?! :roll:
Originally posted by sweetcell:
i once dated a lifer from ballston, and proposed that we grab dinner at a new place in bethesda. she looked at me like i was speaking mandarin. we ended up not going.
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It's a virginia thing.....you wouldn't understand! :roll:
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Originally posted by sweetcell:
no, you're definitely on to something. i find that people from NoVa and MD very much stick to their hometowns. and virginians HATE going to MD and vice-versa. you'd swear it's another country or something. i once dated a lifer from ballston, and proposed that we grab dinner at a new place in bethesda. she looked at me like i was speaking mandarin. we ended up not going.
i got nothing to add about the demographics, but thought your anecdote was funny. when i lived in d.c., i never even thought about going out in maryland. if i wanted to go out outside of d.c., i always went to virginia, and not maryland (unless i had a specific reason for going to baltimore). for that matter i also avoided georgetown at all costs.
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I grew up in Md, and I can definitely tell you that Virginia sucks!
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perhaps the big huge traffic headache people call DC is the reason people dont like to go from MD to VA and back?
there doesnt seem to be much in northern va thats not in MD and vice versa.
the drive to philly is more pleasant than the one to NOVA in most cases! (which is where i'll be this weekend!)
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i grew up in montgomery county, went to school at college park and now i live in arlington.
can't we all just get along?
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I think especially for slightly younger folks (say, high school age) it's the "OH MY GOD THAT'S IN ANOTHER STATE!" syndrome ... we live in MoCo and when my daughter would talk about going to a show at Jammin' Java, a lot of her friends would act like she was talking about a major three-hour road trip ... (though I guess sometimes on the Beltway it's one and the same)
Or yeah, it could just be red/blue state provincialism.
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Originally posted by They call me Doctor Doom.:
I grew up in Md, and I can definitely tell you that Virginia sucks!
a case in point...
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I wasn't born in MD or VA, but I did live in MD for almost 20 years and worked in VA for about 13+- or them and have to say I much prefer MD to VA, but I don't hate VA either. If you could get rid of most of DC, or more to the point the self-important, pretentious wankers that seem to congregate in DC the metro area would be a lovely place to live.
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I thought you were 14.
Originally posted by Roadbike Mankie:
I wasn't born in MD or VA, but I did live in MD for almost 20 years and worked in VA for about 13+- or them and have to say I much prefer MD to VA, but I don't hate VA either. If you could get rid of most of DC, or more to the point the self-important, pretentious wankers that seem to congregate in DC the metro area would be a lovely place to live.
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Originally posted by Joe Marshmallow III:
I thought you were 14.
Originally posted by Roadbike Mankie:
I wasn't born in MD or VA, but I did live in MD for almost 20 years and worked in VA for about 13+- or them and have to say I much prefer MD to VA, but I don't hate VA either. If you could get rid of most of DC, or more to the point the self-important, pretentious wankers that seem to congregate in DC the metro area would be a lovely place to live.
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You've obviously visited my "My Space" site then!!!
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Originally posted by le sonick:
perhaps the big huge traffic headache people call DC is the reason people dont like to go from MD to VA and back?
that may be true. i lived on the hill, and it was much easier for me to hop on 395 and get to virginia than figure out how to get maryland, instead of living in NW (although, i did go to arundel mills a lot more than potomac mills).
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The Hill sux... the only thing it is convenient to is 395. It's not even convenient to the rest of DC...
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The suckiest part of Northern VA has got to be the Tyson's Corner area. Man, the traffic there is just unbearable. Hope none of you live there?
Montgomery County is the place to be :)
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I used to do the Gaithersburg-to-Tysons commute ... needless to say, I do not miss it at all ...
I never appreciated working from home as much as the day of the first ice/snowstorm where all I had to do was look out the window, say "wow, it sucks out there" and turn on my laptop.
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Traffic in VA sucks overall. My cousin came out for Easter and when I began discussing traffic, he asked "Is it always like this here?" People are just getting crazier around here. Even after that aggressive driving story splashed all over the Post. Even years ago when my dad came out from DC he say VA traffic is the worst.
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I grew up in the Fredericksburg area and I think that the fact that it was overrun by annoying DC commuters who were moving there from places like Fairfax and Alexandria over the last decade or so turned me off to Nova completely.
So I settled in College Park Maryland when I got a job up here last summer. I try to avoid Nova as much as possible.
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So why are DC commuters annoying? Because they want to live in the same place as you?
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Originally posted by Buck Satan:
So why are DC commuters annoying? Because they want to live in the same place as you?
Yeah...those nappie-headed, jigaboo commuters! :roll:
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There never used to be major traffic issues in Fredericksburg and the cost of living went way up to the point where it was no longer worth living there.
Not to mention, I still think itâ??s silly for anyone to voluntarily move like 60 miles away from their work, knowing how bad traffic and the environmental aspects already are by doing it. But whatever, they're free to do it.
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I grew up in Northern Virginia and have lived in DC and Virginia. I donâ??t hate Maryland, but (excluding shows at Merriweather or in Baltimore) I have probably gone into Maryland less than three times in the last five years. There just isnâ??t anything to attract me there.
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Maryland is good for O's games, Soundgarden cd store, cheap brews in Baltimore, and as passage to the Deleware beaches. That's about all I can think of.
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I've only lived in the area for 12 years (5 with a car) and while I've never lived in MD, I've certainly spent a fair amount of time in Rockville, Chevy Chase, Bethesda etc. Much more of my life is in NOVA, or was cause my ex-girlfriend lived there, but i still don't have a problem driving to wherever, VA or MD. Am i the only one without road rage in this city?
i grew up in RI, on the Massachusetts line, and we never had problems like this. Or traffic either i guess.
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Originally posted by ggwâ?˘:
I grew up in Northern Virginia and have lived in DC and Virginia. I donâ??t hate Maryland, but (excluding shows at Merriweather or in Baltimore) I have probably gone into Maryland less than three times in the last five years. There just isnâ??t anything to attract me there.
I'm sure Maryland's feeling is mutual. ;)
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All I know is that I enjoy that there is less sprawl in Maryland than there is in Nova. All of Nova just seems like one big unplanned clusterfuck of highways, parking lots and mini-malls, that never seems to end.
But that's just my impression, having never lived there.
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You've never been to my neighborhood, I guess.
It actually sounds like Rockville that you are describing.
Originally posted by Brandon Brendall, the thief:
All I know is that I enjoy that there is less sprawl in Maryland than there is in Nova. All of Nova just seems like one big unplanned clusterfuck of highways, parking lots and mini-malls, that never seems to end.
But that's just my impression, having never lived there.
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Did you know that on a typical Saturday there is more money spent on Rockville Pike, Rockville, MD than Rodeo Drive, Beverly Hills, CA?
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i wonder if this is similar to the northern californians who refuse to go down to LA or even consider moving there. In college (santa barbara) it seemed like northern californians (me included) had a lot of animosity to the southern californians (till i dated one). and given that LA was closer than SF i attended lots of concerts there.
i swear its like 2 different states tho. and for the record id NEVER live in LA :)
as far as virginia/maryland. i lived in VA for 4 years (but considering im not a native) i never had a problem going to maryland. i went to the AFI a bit and if shows were in b'more would go up there. traffic was never a bother (its mostly still not - aside for the fact i no longer drive in nyc and everything annoys me) and it wasnt as bad as bay area traffic. housing prices were as ridiculous (ok SF is a lot worse). i never understood the whole thing, but then again im the person from cali saying id not live in LA. :)
I did meet plenty of guys who wouldnt consider even going out on a date because i lived in virginia. their loss :)
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So you choose to live in Manhattan over Brooklyn?
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Originally posted by Charlie Nakatestes,Japanese Golfer:
So you choose to live in Manhattan over Brooklyn?
hell yeah. given a choice id easily take manhattan and luckily i can afford to live in hells kitchen. if i could afford to buy in brooklyn, since manhattan is truly unaffordable, id easily consider that. brooklyn isnt so cheap either tho. the whole place is getting pretty unaffordable.
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Originally posted by Roadbike Mankie:
Did you know that on a typical Saturday there is more money spent on Rockville Pike, Rockville, MD than Rodeo Drive, Beverly Hills, CA?
did you know that 700 people die each year from swallowing toothpicks?
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i'm not from here, but i've lived in various parts of nova for the whole 4 years i've lived here. balmer excluded i've gone to maryland to hang out 5 times. each time we got stuck in traffic the entire time in md
maryland does have the advantage of not being strapped to the rest of va, though
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More Nextel Cup races are held in Virginia (4) than any other state, including Maryland (0).
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Originally posted by le sonick:
Originally posted by Roadbike Mankie:
Did you know that on a typical Saturday there is more money spent on Rockville Pike, Rockville, MD than Rodeo Drive, Beverly Hills, CA?
did you know that 700 people die each year from swallowing toothpicks? [/b]
Did you know that 76.4% of people quoting statistics are making them up off the top of their heads?
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Originally posted by Charlie Nakatestes,Japanese Golfer:
More Nextel Cup races are held in Virginia (4) than any other state, including Maryland (0).
Isnt that 6? Bristol x2, Martinsville x2, and Richmond x2?
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Originally posted by Charlie Nakatestes,Japanese Golfer:
More Nextel Cup races are held in Virginia (4) than any other state, including Maryland (0).
We keep NASCAR in our backyard (Delaware).
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Originally posted by xneverwherex:
i wonder if this is similar to the northern californians who refuse to go down to LA or even consider moving there. In college (santa barbara) it seemed like northern californians (me included) had a lot of animosity to the southern californians (till i dated one). and given that LA was closer than SF i attended lots of concerts there.
i swear its like 2 different states tho. and for the record id NEVER live in LA :)
like pavement once sang about california- the south takes what the north delivers.
although, i would consider moving to san diego.
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east and western pennsylvania are two seperate parts of the country
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Originally posted by Charlie Nakatestes,Japanese Golfer:
More Nextel Cup races are held in Virginia (4) than any other state, including Maryland (0).
Then Maryland wins....end of story...
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So this thread is just a confirmation of the dislike NOVA has for MD and vice versa.
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Then what are you doing living in the state with the second most points races (3)? :D
Originally posted by Roadbike Mankie:
Originally posted by Charlie Nakatestes,Japanese Golfer:
More Nextel Cup races are held in Virginia (4) than any other state, including Maryland (0).
Then Maryland wins....end of story... [/b]
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Bristol is in Tenn, just acorss the border. There is a Bristol VA and Bristol TN.
Originally posted by RatBastard:
Originally posted by Charlie Nakatestes,Japanese Golfer:
More Nextel Cup races are held in Virginia (4) than any other state, including Maryland (0).
Isnt that 6? Bristol x2, Martinsville x2, and Richmond x2? [/b]
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Originally posted by renton007:
Bristol is in Tenn, just acorss the border. There is a Bristol VA and Bristol TN.
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Two Bristols, who would have figured it..?
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Yeah, I forgot about Rockville Pike. That place is like North NoVa.
Originally posted by Charlie Nakatestes,Japanese Golfer:
You've never been to my neighborhood, I guess.
It actually sounds like Rockville that you are describing.
Originally posted by Brandon Brendall, the thief:
All I know is that I enjoy that there is less sprawl in Maryland than there is in Nova. All of Nova just seems like one big unplanned clusterfuck of highways, parking lots and mini-malls, that never seems to end.
But that's just my impression, having never lived there.
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how many good venues are there: dc vs. md vs. va?
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Originally posted by Venerable Bede:
Originally posted by xneverwherex:
i wonder if this is similar to the northern californians who refuse to go down to LA or even consider moving there. In college (santa barbara) it seemed like northern californians (me included) had a lot of animosity to the southern californians (till i dated one). and given that LA was closer than SF i attended lots of concerts there.
i swear its like 2 different states tho. and for the record id NEVER live in LA :)
like pavement once sang about california- the south takes what the north delivers.
although, i would consider moving to san diego. [/b]
and id consider moving to Santa Barbara or San Diego. Im not sure SB is considered SoCal, tho?
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Originally posted by xneverwherex:
Im not sure SB is considered SoCal, tho?
It is.
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Originally posted by Charlie Nakatestes,Japanese Golfer:
Then what are you doing living in the state with the second most points races (3)? :D
Originally posted by Roadbike Mankie:
Originally posted by Charlie Nakatestes,Japanese Golfer:
More Nextel Cup races are held in Virginia (4) than any other state, including Maryland (0).
Then Maryland wins....end of story... [/b]
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The strange is though I've not seen one NASCAR t-shirt, baseball cap bumper stickers or anything down here. All of the redneckie type bars (for fear of stererotyping, but I suppose it's okay to stereotype with rednecks being white ;) ) are all NY Wankees themed. Seriously.