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=> GENERAL DISCUSSION => Topic started by: Charlie Nakatestes, Japanese Golfer on September 17, 2008, 03:23:00 pm
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http://www.cnn.com/2008/WORLD/asiapcf/09/16/china.tainted.formula/index.html (http://www.cnn.com/2008/WORLD/asiapcf/09/16/china.tainted.formula/index.html)
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Dude. I'm totally down with your sentiment. Breast feeding is the best for kids. Eventually though, and this WILL happen with your kid too if your wife breastfeeds long enough (though the timetable varies from kid to kid as I can personally attest to) every baby will eventually lose interest in breastfeeding. One of my kids needed to be weened off of it, the other just lost interest at 8 or 9 months. At that point we gave formula...was too early for a strictly solid food diet and cow's milk obviously doesn't provide all the nutrition an infant needs.
Just sayin.....
Left to their own devices not every kid will suckle until you pry them off.....
Formula is not totally evil. At least not all formula. Poisonous china formula is evil though.
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It's also good because the boobs have to get up for the middle of the night feedings so you get to sleep all night. Breast pumps are the work of the devil.
Funny though how the entertainment center becomes a snack bar once a kid comes on the scene.
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Forgot about breast pumps. Though in my observations, once the kid starts weening, either by baby or mom's choice, pumping yeilds decline significantly and diet must be supplemented by something.
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All I can say about our experience is that we're at 15 months of breastfeeding, with never a drop of formula, and never will. She's in the 97th percentile weight, 75th height, and has never been sick, save for one two day cold and two bouts of carsickness.
This is what the WHO recommends:
The World Health Organization recommends that infants should be exclusively breastfed for the first 6 months of life. Breastfeeding should continue for at least 2 years with weaning foods added at 6 months of age. A weaning diet should consist of:
a staple (a complex carbohydrate) such as cereals, roots, or tubers,
an energy rich supplement (fats, oils and sugars),
protein rich supplements (legumes, animal products, meat, eggs), and
vitamin and mineral rich foods (fruits and vegetables) ( WHO, 2001 ).
these complementary foods should be low cost and prepared locally ) WHO, 2003-3 ).
The American Academy of Pediatrics recommends breastfeeding for at least 12 months and as long thereafter as mutually desired. Supplemental foods should be added at 6 months of age ( AAP Breastfeeding, 2005 ).
In 1989, The World Health Organization (WHO) developed the Ten Steps to Successful Breastfeeding. Every facility providing maternity services and care for newborn infants should:
Have a written breastfeeding policy that is routinely communicated to all health care staff.
Train all health care staff in skills necessary to implement this policy.
Inform all pregnant women about the benefits and management of breastfeeding.
Help mothers initiate breastfeeding within a half-hour of birth.
Show mothers how to breastfeed and how to maintain lactation even if they should be separated from their infants.
Give newborn infants no food or drink other than breast milk unless medically indicated.
Practice rooming in: Allow mothers and infants to remain together 24 hours a day.
Encourage breastfeeding on demand.
Give no artificial teats or pacifiers, also called dummies or soothers to breastfeeding infants.
Foster the establishment of breastfeeding support groups and refer mothers to them on discharge from the hospital or clinic.
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Did you name your kid Moonflower Rhett?
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breastfeeding for 2 years???? seriously? thats ridiculuous. they have teeth by then.
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Not ridiculous at all. Actually, teething starts around six months. I think it was a little before that for us.
Originally posted by very sonick:
breastfeeding for 2 years???? seriously? thats ridiculuous. they have teeth by then.
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Actually, the name we chose was one of the top 10 most popular names for girls for 2007.
She was named after her late great-grandmother, to whom I promised to name my daughter after long ago, before the name got popular. My wife liked the name alot, so we went with it.
Originally posted by econo:
Did you name your kid Moonflower Rhett?
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l8orUaCJ0GY (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l8orUaCJ0GY)
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uh why are a bunch of DUDES carrying on about the pros of breast feeding babies?
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Because we care about what's best for our children?
Originally posted by kosmo:
uh why are a bunch of DUDES carrying on about the pros of breast feeding babies?
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Originally posted by very sonick:
breastfeeding for 2 years???? seriously? thats ridiculuous. they have teeth by then.
My oldest had teeth at 3 months; know what baby teeth are also called? Milk teeth, because they're biologically supposed to nurse until they fall OUT, not until they come in.
Baby can't bite while nursing -- and if they do bite before or after, they can be taught not to.
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Rhett your experience is great all i'm saying is that not everyone's experience is the same. no fool would argue that breast milk is not the best for a baby, but some mothers are not able to do that exclusively for 15 months, 2 years or however freakishly long some women do it. The reasons are varied, but they can be the kid just losing interest in it, jobs/pumping interfering with a steady supply of milk, etc etc etc.
I've been through this with 2 kids and had 2 vastly different experiences with each one, so stop actiing like such a know it all.
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Originally posted by Charlie Nakatestes,Japanese Golfer:
Because we care about what's best for our children?
Originally posted by kosmo:
uh why are a bunch of DUDES carrying on about the pros of breast feeding babies?
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isn't that what babydaddy.com is for?
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It's all about the kids kosmo.
As Marvin Gay said, save the babies, save the babies.
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I understand that that not all women are able to breastfeed for the amount of time that may be optimal. It's sad that we live in a society that doesn't always allow us to make the best decision for our kids. And hey, if a kid weens himself/herself at nine months, they're an exception to the rule, but god blessem, if they're ready, they're ready, I guess.
Please don't think that because I have strong opinions on the subject that it means I'm a "know it all". Being married to someone who is a big proponent of natural childbirth and breastfeeding on demand, I am pretty well informed on those topics. At least as well informed as Julian "No, really, I am hetero, see, I've got pics of hot 18 year olds on my hard drive to prove it" is about his fashion world, and Vansmack "boy am I a lucky guy to find a woman who would marry a 35 year old who plays with video games." is about his technology world.
Originally posted by chaz:
Rhett your experience is great all i'm saying is that not everyone's experience is the same. no fool would argue that breast milk is not the best for a baby, but some mothers are not able to do that exclusively for 15 months, 2 years or however freakishly long some women do it. The reasons are varied, but they can be the kid just losing interest in it, jobs/pumping interfering with a steady supply of milk, etc etc etc.
I've been through this with 2 kids and had 2 vastly different experiences with each one, so stop actiing like such a know it all.
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Your wife belongs to the leche league, correct?
those militant breast feeders are a wild lot!
Originally posted by Charlie Nakatestes,Japanese Golfer:
I understand that that not all women are able to breastfeed for the amount of time that may be optimal. It's sad that we live in a society that doesn't always allow us to make the best decision for our kids. And hey, if a kid weens himself/herself at nine months, they're an exception to the rule, but god blessem, if they're ready, they're ready, I guess.
Please don't think that because I have strong opinions on the subject that it means I'm a "know it all". Being married to someone who is a big proponent of natural childbirth and breastfeeding on demand, I am pretty well informed on those topics. At least as well informed as Julian "No, really, I am hetero, see, I've got pics of hot 18 year olds on my hard drive to prove it" is about his fashion world, and Vansmack "boy am I a lucky guy to find a woman who would marry a 35 year old who plays with video games." is about his technology world.
Originally posted by chaz:
Rhett your experience is great all i'm saying is that not everyone's experience is the same. no fool would argue that breast milk is not the best for a baby, but some mothers are not able to do that exclusively for 15 months, 2 years or however freakishly long some women do it. The reasons are varied, but they can be the kid just losing interest in it, jobs/pumping interfering with a steady supply of milk, etc etc etc.
I've been through this with 2 kids and had 2 vastly different experiences with each one, so stop actiing like such a know it all.
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Don't know about you lot by my missus likes me to bite her nips!
And if they're milk teeth because they're supposed to tit-feed till they fall out, my son is almost 6 and just lost his first two.....I doubt he'd opt for breast milk over a Happy Meal at this point to be perfectly honest with you.
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If you're missing as many teeth as most Brits, I can see why she wouldn't mind it.
Nipple biting is a no-no for both me and my daughter.
I don't care to have mine bitten either, in case you were wondering.
Originally posted by Ever Circling Skeletal Family:
Don't know about you lot by my missus likes me to bite her nips!
And if they're milk teeth because they're supposed to tit-feed till they fall out, my son is almost 6 and just lost his first two.....I doubt he'd opt for breast milk over a Happy Meal at this point to be perfectly honest with you.
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OK, this post wins for things that you really didn't want to know about 9:30 Forumites. Well done. I think I'm gonna barf...
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Why stop at age 6?
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/newstopics/howaboutthat/2976181/Swiss-restaurant-to-serve-meals-cooked-with-human-breast-milk.html (http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/newstopics/howaboutthat/2976181/Swiss-restaurant-to-serve-meals-cooked-with-human-breast-milk.html)
Originally posted by Ever Circling Skeletal Family:
Don't know about you lot by my missus likes me to bite her nips!
And if they're milk teeth because they're supposed to tit-feed till they fall out, my son is almost 6 and just lost his first two.....I doubt he'd opt for breast milk over a Happy Meal at this point to be perfectly honest with you.