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Title: Beckham to Real
Post by: vansmack on June 17, 2003, 03:27:00 pm
Beckham agrees to join Real Madrid
 
 Dale Johnson
 
 David Beckham has agreed to sign a four year contract with Real Madrid, scuppering Barcelona's hopes of luring the England skipper to the Nou Camp.
 
 A Spanish radio station revealed that the two clubs would confirm the details of the deal later on Tuesday evening.
 
 Beckham is reported to be moving to the Bernabeu for a fee of between 25 and 30 milliosn euros - around £20million. He will sign the contract on July 2, the day after he is scheduled for a medical in Spain.
 
 Radio Marca said the deal will be confirmed later today. It had ben reported that the deal was struck as long ago as May 12.
 
 
 The midfielder, currently on his way to Japan for a promotional tour, will reportedly be paid £90,000-a-week.
Title: Re: Beckham to Real
Post by: markie on June 17, 2003, 03:35:00 pm
http://www.sky.com/skynews/article/0,,30000-1094263,00.html (http://www.sky.com/skynews/article/0,,30000-1094263,00.html)
 
 they say 17.5 million pounds
Title: Re: Beckham to Real
Post by: vansmack on June 17, 2003, 05:12:00 pm
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Originally posted by Andrew WK:
  http://www.sky.com/skynews/article/0,,30000-1094263,00.html (http://www.sky.com/skynews/article/0,,30000-1094263,00.html)
 
 they say 17.5 million pounds
"Under the terms of the agreement, 7.5m euros (£5.2m) of the total fee will be paid upon completion of the sale, and 17.5m euros (£12.24) over the following four years in equal instalments. The remaining 10m euros (£7m) are conditional upon Real Madrid's performances in the UEFA Champions League. "
Title: Re: Beckham to Real
Post by: Barcelona on June 17, 2003, 05:21:00 pm
What the fuck! I guess next year Barcelona will have to kick Beckham's ass as well. Too many stars for Real Madrid, it is going to be fun winning the Spanish league next year. Difficult, but there is new hope in the city. I hope we finally start recovering from this long disease that has affected us for over 7 years. Any chance that Henry might want to leave Arsenal?
Title: Re: Beckham to Real
Post by: vansmack on June 17, 2003, 05:30:00 pm
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Originally posted by Barcelona:
  Any chance that Henry might want to leave Arsenal?
No, but Figo may be going to Inter to make room for Becks and to finalize the deal for Ronaldo (apparently Real still owes some money....).
Title: Re: Beckham to Real
Post by: Barcelona on June 17, 2003, 05:44:00 pm
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Originally posted by vansmack:
   
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Originally posted by Barcelona:
  Any chance that Henry might want to leave Arsenal?
No, but Figo may be going to Inter to make room for Becks and to finalize the deal for Ronaldo (apparently Real still owes some money....). [/b]
Real Madrid was in a huge financial crisis around 6 years ago (Real didn't win any Champions League / European Cup between the late sixties and 1998), then they sold some land they owned (it has never been clear how they got out so fast and well from the debt) and started to buy Roberto Carlos, Figo, Zidane, Ronaldo, and now Beckham....
 
 I still think that Figo has never played as well in Madrid as he played before in Portugal and Barcelona. Zidane is becoming old and the defense of Real Madrid sucks. Unless they get Vieira, they still have a big deficit in the defense line.
 
 I am sorry but I am glad to see Figo being treated this way, what he did to Barcelona three years ago was awful.
Title: Re: Beckham to Real
Post by: myuman on June 17, 2003, 08:30:00 pm
But the bottom line is.... Beckham will do nothing for Real on the field.  He can take free kicks... so what!  Carlos will embarrass him at the only thing he does really well.  Zidane, Figo... aged, but will only play down with Beckham on the field... but off the field, ahhh... there's the rub.  Just think of the Jersey's, the TV viewers... Beckham will pay for his salary and half the rest of the team... If only Real can find a place for him that won't cause too much harm.
Title: Re: Beckham to Real
Post by: mankie on June 18, 2003, 09:59:00 am
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Originally posted by myuman:
  But the bottom line is.... Beckham will do nothing for Real on the field.  He can take free kicks... so what!  Carlos will embarrass him at the only thing he does really well.  Zidane, Figo... aged, but will only play down with Beckham on the field... but off the field, ahhh... there's the rub.  Just think of the Jersey's, the TV viewers... Beckham will pay for his salary and half the rest of the team... If only Real can find a place for him that won't cause too much harm.
That really is a load of bollocks and just demonstrates that you know nothing about the player....or football for that matter
 
 He has the best foot for free kicks in the world, no question, but he also passes the ball with accuracy that nobody else can even come close to, and a striker needs the ball at his feet to put it in the net, not 6" behind him. Just his presence on the field enables the team to control the ball in midfield and kill most attacks before they get to the fullbacks (thankfuly for United!) The only other player in the world who is better than Beck's at taking charge of the midfield is Roy Keane. England are twice the team they were since Beckham was given the captain's armband, so his leadership on the field and in the locker room is vital.
 
 Real Madrid are a much better team with him and United are now a weaker team without him...Madrid win!! 25mil quid is a steal for the man...and I hope the twats in the front office and the prawn sandwich eating shareholders at Old Trafford are happy.
 
 I hope Beckham scores the winning goal to put United out of the Champions League next season just to shove it up their arses....this move was not about football, it's all about money, and Manchester United is so wealthy that the 25mil is a mere drop in the bucket for them. I hope Kenyon and Ferguson choke on the champagne they drink to celebrate all the money they just made for the shareholders.
 
 If it was a choice between Ferguson and Beckham leaving, it should've been Ferguson, let him go manage his beloved Celtic...Fergie was a part of United's glorious past and Beckham should still be a part of United's glorious future.
 
 To add insult to injury, the signing is being done on my birthday!   :(
Title: Re: Beckham to Real
Post by: vansmack on June 18, 2003, 10:15:00 am
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Originally posted by myuman:
   He can take free kicks... so what!  Carlos will embarrass him at the only thing he does really well.  
Even Roberto Carlos doesn't agree with you here.  He joked about maybe being able to kick a few now that Becks was in town.  He hasn't has a big free kick since 1997 for Brazil against France. He did get to see Becks wiz one right past his head and into the net in the second leg of the champions league though.
Title: Re: Beckham to Real
Post by: mankie on June 18, 2003, 10:19:00 am
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Originally posted by vansmack:
 
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 Even Roberto Carlos doesn't agree with you here.  He joked about maybe being able to kick a few now that Becks was in town.  He hasn't has a big free kick since 1997 for Brazil against France. He did get to see Becks wiz one right past his head and into the net in the second leg of the champions league though.
 
 [/b]
Hey smackie..I wonder if these tossers will finally be able to admit what an amazing player his is now he's not playing for United?
Title: Re: Beckham to Real
Post by: vansmack on June 18, 2003, 10:23:00 am
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Originally posted by mankie:
  I hope Beckham scores the winning goal to put United out of the Champions League next season just to shove it up their arses....
No you don't.  Or at least you won't then.  but if anybody from Real should beat United, I too hope that it's Becks on a free kick and that he turns and smiles at Fergie and gives him a little mock kiss like the Turkey game.
 
 
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Originally posted by mankie:
 If it was a choice between Ferguson and Beckham leaving, it should've been Ferguson, let him go manage his beloved Celtic...Fergie was a part of United's glorious past and Beckham should still be a part of United's glorious future.
Word.
 
 
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Originally posted by mankie:
 To add insult to injury, the signing is being done on my birthday!    :(  
I'm sorry brother.  I feel your pain - Smackette is a Real supporter so I can't even ignore the transfer - she will remind how bad of a deal this was for United until I die.
 
 She's in NY this week, and left a chant on my cell phone, thanking me for david beckham and announcing that United is now most Real fans favorite team (sung to the famous united chant thanking leeds for Cantona and mocking them by saying Leeds is our favorite team - I'm sure you've heard it).  She wants a Beckham's Real jersey for her birthday - that's all she wants.  It's not too late to cancel our impending move to SF is it?
Title: Re: Beckham to Real
Post by: vansmack on June 18, 2003, 10:32:00 am
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Originally posted by mankie:
  Hey smackie..I wonder if these tossers will finally be able to admit what an amazing player his is now he's not playing for United?
Undoubtedly.
Title: Re: Beckham to Real
Post by: mankie on June 18, 2003, 10:55:00 am
BECKHAM WON'T BE TOURING THE USA WITH UNITED IF HE SIGNS ON JULY 2ND !!!!!!!!
 
 A LOT OF PEOPLE WHO BOUGHT TICKETS TO SEE BECKHAM WILL BE VERY PISSED OFF.
Title: Re: Beckham to Real
Post by: vansmack on June 18, 2003, 10:59:00 am
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Originally posted by mankie:
  BECKHAM WON'T BE TOURING THE USA WITH UNITED IF HE SIGNS ON JULY 2ND !!!!!!!!
 
 A LOT OF PEOPLE WHO BOUGHT TICKETS TO SEE BECKHAM WILL BE VERY PISSED OFF.
And that's when it hits you....ABC 7 reported on the transfer last night (!!!!) and that was their point - no Beckham for the US tour.  Serves 'em right.  They're not United fans anyway.  Will Ronaldino make up for that?  Ha!
Title: Re: Beckham to Real
Post by: mankie on June 18, 2003, 02:32:00 pm
Hey smackie.....I just heard from home that the reason United sold Becks' now is because in March they tried to get him to sign a new contract to extend it beyond the two years he has left on this one, but Beckhams management team would not discuss it, so they decided to cash in on him now instead of letting him walk away without compensation next year.
 
 I hope that's true, I won't feel so bad about him going if it is.
Title: Re: Beckham to Real
Post by: myuman on June 18, 2003, 03:21:00 pm
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Originally posted by mankie:
  That really is a load of bollocks and just demonstrates that you know nothing about the player....or football for that matter
 
Time will only show your bias..
Title: Re: Beckham to Real
Post by: myuman on June 18, 2003, 03:30:00 pm
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Originally posted by vansmack:
  Even Roberto Carlos doesn't agree with you here.  He joked about maybe being able to kick a few now that Becks was in town.  He hasn't has a big free kick since 1997 for Brazil against France. He did get to see Becks wiz one right past his head and into the net in the second leg of the champions league though.
And who laughed last on that kick?  Heck, sir alex didn't even start him (don't get me started on this one... just face it, there was no motive to keep him out unless he felt someone else could do a better job) and then he scores two meaningless goals.  How many titles does Carlos have under his belt? (all that Becks dreams about) He has nothing to prove and is politicking for sure on that comment.  Don't get me wrong.. I like Becks, Man U., and the whole EPL for that matter... but this isn't an "on field" move by any stretch.  Now Man U. can afford much and many and put themselves back on the top of Europe.
Title: Re: Beckham to Real
Post by: mankie on June 18, 2003, 03:35:00 pm
We may disagree on Beckhams talent level, but the ONLY reason he was on the bench for that game is because the manager is an arrogant ego-maniac who was acting on a personal vendetta at the expense of the team. A brilliant manager yes, but his ego is his worst enemy.
Title: Re: Beckham to Real
Post by: vansmack on June 18, 2003, 04:04:00 pm
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Originally posted by myuman:
   How many titles does Carlos have under his belt? (all that Becks dreams about)  
The only title Carlos has that Becks does not is a World Cup, and Carlos owes none of that to Real.  Becks joining Real will do little to help himself get that either.
Title: Re: Beckham to Real
Post by: vansmack on June 18, 2003, 04:17:00 pm
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Originally posted by mankie:
  Hey smackie.....I just heard from home that the reason United sold Becks' now is because in March they tried to get him to sign a new contract to extend it beyond the two years he has left on this one, but Beckhams management team would not discuss it, so they decided to cash in on him now instead of letting him walk away without compensation next year.
 
 I hope that's true, I won't feel so bad about him going if it is.
"Beckham's management team" = Posh Spice
Title: Re: Beckham to Real
Post by: mankie on June 18, 2003, 04:26:00 pm
When I switched employers from Porsche to Ferrari/Maserati, I talked to my wife and valued her opinion. We've also had very serious discussions about moving back to Ireland soon.
 
 I'm a a hen-pecked testicle-less whimp also?
Title: Re: Beckham to Real
Post by: vansmack on June 18, 2003, 04:31:00 pm
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Originally posted by mankie:
 
 I'm a a hen-pecked testicle-less whimp also?
If I see your wife doing your hair, picking out matching diamond studded white outfits for you two to wear and putting you in a sarong - then I'll worry.
Title: Re: Beckham to Real
Post by: mankie on June 18, 2003, 04:36:00 pm
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Originally posted by vansmack:
   
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Originally posted by mankie:
 
 I'm a a hen-pecked testicle-less whimp also?
If I see your wife doing your hair, picking out matching diamond studded white outfits for you two to wear and putting you in a sarong - then I'll worry. [/b]
...and if I'm making his kind of coin and getting in the party's he's getting into, then you can call anything you want. I WONT CARE! Mind you, if I was him I wouldn't be married to her..I'd be out and single and shag'n every supermodel, movie actress and rockstar'ette with a pulse!
Title: Re: Beckham to Real
Post by: vansmack on June 18, 2003, 04:41:00 pm
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Originally posted by mankie:
  ...and if I'm making his kind of coin and getting in the party's he's getting into, then you can call anything you want. I WONT CARE! Mind you, if I was him I wouldn't be married to her..I'd be out and single and shag'n every supermodel, movie actress and rockstar'ette with a pulse!
If I'm making his coin, I'm not taking orders from Viktoriya either....
 
 But I don't make his coin, so I'm packing it up and moving with the misses to SF so she can go to school at the end of next month.  Guess that makes me a hen-pecked testicle-less whimp too.
 
 I can say this though - I would never leave United.  Or the Angels.  Or the Ducks.  Or the Steelers. Etc.  Playing for your favorite team is every kids dream come true, no matter how much money or who your wife is.
Title: Re: Beckham to Real
Post by: mankie on June 18, 2003, 04:47:00 pm
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Originally posted by vansmack:
 [QB]
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 But I don't make his coin, so I'm packing it up and moving with the misses to SF so she can go to school at the end of next month.  Guess that makes me a hen-pecked testicle-less whimp too.
 
 QB]
That's not hen-pecked smackie, that's love...remember I'm English, my wife is Irish and we're moving back to Ireland.
 
 Before you leave we need to meet and drink a toast together to the upcoming season..which can't come soon enough for me!
Title: Re: Beckham to Real
Post by: vansmack on June 18, 2003, 04:58:00 pm
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Originally posted by mankie:
  That's not hen-pecked smackie, that's love...remember I'm English, my wife is Irish and we're moving back to Ireland.
 
 Before you leave we need to meet and drink a toast together to the upcoming season..which can't come soon enough for me!
That it is.  We're both from California and have a similar feeling towards heading back.  I've been here for 7 years now - I'm ready for a change.  I always thought I'd go to London or Dublin before heading back to CA, but it's not in the cards.
 
 As for a drink - that's a certainty.  There will be a going away party in late July and I will post the details shortly.  I would like to get a drink with you at some point before then however as I am in desperate need of the football fix (the Premiership fixtures come out tomorrow morning!!!).  I live and work in the city so if you're ever coming in, you'll have to let me know ( vansmack@msn.com ).  I can usally be found in Dupont, Adams Morgan or my favorite stomping grounds - Cleveland Park.
Title: Re: Beckham to Real
Post by: ggw on June 18, 2003, 05:02:00 pm
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Originally posted by mankie:
  Mind you, if I was him I wouldn't be married to her..I'd be out and single and shag'n every supermodel, movie actress and rockstar'ette with a pulse!
I was under the impression that you already do that....
Title: Re: Beckham to Real
Post by: mankie on June 18, 2003, 05:04:00 pm
Nanny O'Briens it is then!
 
 My old watering hole. Haven't been there since the "lit'lun" arrived.
 
 We'll sort out a day soon.
Title: Re: Beckham to Real
Post by: jadetree on June 18, 2003, 05:04:00 pm
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Originally posted by mankie:
  Nanny O'Briens it is then!
 
 
See Vansmack, I am not the only one.
Title: Re: Beckham to Real
Post by: mankie on June 18, 2003, 05:05:00 pm
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Originally posted by ggw:
 
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 I was under the impression that you already do that....
 
 [/b]
not anymore, the wife wants me home to help out with the baby these days.  :(
Title: Re: Beckham to Real
Post by: vansmack on June 18, 2003, 05:09:00 pm
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Originally posted by mankie:
  Nanny O'Briens it is then!
 
 My old watering hole. Haven't been there since the "lit'lun" arrived.
 
 We'll sort out a day soon.
Sounds good - I'm a block away.  
 
 And what Jadetree, err, eertedaj is refering to is that I am a 4P's fan and he refuses to set foot in there so I must share a pint(s) with him in Nannies.  I don't mind Nannies though (the Guinness is just better at the 4p's).
Title: Re: Beckham to Real
Post by: mankie on June 18, 2003, 05:20:00 pm
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Originally posted by vansmack:
 
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 Sounds good - I'm a block away.  
 
 And what Jadetree, err, eertedaj is refering to is that I am a 4P's fan and he refuses to set foot in there so I must share a pint(s) with him in Nannies.  I don't mind Nannies though (the Guinness is just better at the 4p's).
 
 [/b]
I'm with tedajee/retadjee whatever on this one though. I refuse to step foot in the 4P's too. I met markie wk and lulu there a little while ago but we sat outside. Not a regular guiness drinker myself, but my mates who are all seem to prefer the nanny's pint for some reason.
Title: Re: Beckham to Real
Post by: vansmack on June 18, 2003, 05:26:00 pm
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Originally posted by mankie:
 
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Originally posted by vansmack:
 I'm with tedajee/retadjee whatever on this one though. I refuse to step foot in the 4P's too. I met markie wk and lulu there a little while ago but we sat outside. Not a regular guiness drinker myself, but my mates who are all seem to prefer the nanny's pint for some reason. [/b]
Fook off.  You guys went to the P's and didn't call me.  That's it - I'm eikraM until I get back from vacation!
 
 Anyhow, while the atmosphere is more Irish at Nannie's, as a certified 1759 Society Member, the Pints aren't even close.  The Ps is the far superior pint, but this board has had this argument 100 times over so I'll let it go at that.
Title: Re: Beckham to Real
Post by: markie on June 18, 2003, 05:38:00 pm
yeah, I need kcamsnav down time.
 
 4ps is great outside the guiness is very good and the fish and chips even better. But inside reminds me of a bad airport bar, its just too garish for me. Give me the cheap school dinner hall look of nannies anytime.....
 
 Actually I hate that too. Give me Pharmacy or Toledo or Washington grill or red room, or best of all backbar. In Cleveland Park I preferred atomic billiards.
Title: Re: Beckham to Real
Post by: mankie on June 18, 2003, 05:39:00 pm
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Originally posted by vansmack:
 
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 Fook off.  You guys went to the P's and didn't call me.  That's it - I'm eikraM until I get back from vacation!
 
 [/b]
It was quite a while ago..in fact it was sometime during baseball season last year. Their real motive for meeting me was so I would drive them to Baltimore for the game, but I wasn't having it, so we ended up sitting outside the 4P's and having a couple of bevvies.
 
 You have to watch those two, they pretend they want to meet you but they really only want to meet your car.
Title: Re: Beckham to Real
Post by: mankie on June 18, 2003, 05:48:00 pm
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Originally posted by Andrew WK:
 
 
 Give me Pharmacy or Toledo or Washington grill or red room, or best of all backbar. In Cleveland Park I preferred atomic billiards.
 
 
I agree with you on Pharmacy and Toledo..don't know the Washington Grill. I like Nanny's because it's my homey's that hang there bro'!
 
 You can shove the back bar up your arse though..that wanker behind the bar ruins it. I prefer having a couple in the Velvet Lounge before a show at 930.
 
 Isn't it a bit weird how Adams Morgan can be chocker with people waiting in line to go in other bars, but the Pharmacy bar NEVER seems to be very busy.
 
 I used to enjoy people watching in Tom Tom, you know, the mating ritual of the fart-boy!
 
 Tryst would be okay if it wasn't full of the artsy, pretentious wanna-be-euro-trash types
Title: Re: Beckham to Real
Post by: Yank on June 22, 2003, 02:29:00 pm
http://www.sunspot.net/sports/soccer/bal-sp.beckham22jun22,0,2316916.story?coll=bal-home-headlines (http://www.sunspot.net/sports/soccer/bal-sp.beckham22jun22,0,2316916.story?coll=bal-home-headlines)
Title: Re: Beckham to Real
Post by: Yank on June 22, 2003, 02:43:00 pm
http://212.100.224.146/news/2003Jun/20030622_18622_world_soccer.html (http://212.100.224.146/news/2003Jun/20030622_18622_world_soccer.html)
Title: Re: Beckham to Real
Post by: vansmack on June 23, 2003, 11:57:00 am
I haven't confirmed this yet, but I was told that Beck's physical on July 1 is going to be on European pay-per-view and the stadium has sold out to see Beck's dribble the ball around for the first time and put on his Real jersey.
 
 And it's a wonder American's don't take passionately to footie like the rest of the world.