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=> GENERAL DISCUSSION => Topic started by: jadetree on June 18, 2003, 03:46:00 pm
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Seth, since you have been feeling talkative (revealing the price of and confirming the Sex Pistols) care to shed some light on whether or not GBV will be playing in August or September. And also any idea why their encore was cut short at their last show at the club, sure it was a little rowdy in the crowd, but not even close to being out of control.
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They probably cut it short since Bob (as he admitted before the fucking thing started) was high.
Yes, goddam it, they'll play when "Earthquake Glue" comes out.
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Originally posted by Tom Cashel:
They probably cut it short since Bob (as he admitted before the fucking thing started) was high.
Yes, goddam it, they'll play when "Earthquake Glue" comes out.
Yes I know they will playing, I was hoping for the actual date of the show. I realize it is a long shot. Dont remember him saying he was high. Probably because I was a little too drunk.
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Going by this
Shins, The
2003-09-05 Trocadero Philadelphia PA Guided By Voices, My Morning Jacket
2003-09-19 Ridlea Theater Upstairs Fort Worth TX
Somewhere between those dates.
This is going to be an amazing show and even better if they drop one between the 5 and 19 in DC
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just saw that tommy keene is doing some left coast shows with gbv... while not as amazing as gbv and cheap trick pairing, its tops as far as an guitar pop geeks ideal bill.
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Where did you get Shins info?
Originally posted by marchdoe:
Going by this
Shins, The
2003-09-05 Trocadero Philadelphia PA Guided By Voices, My Morning Jacket
2003-09-19 Ridlea Theater Upstairs Fort Worth TX
Somewhere between those dates.
This is going to be an amazing show and even better if they drop one between the 5 and 19 in DC
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Originally posted by kosmo:
just saw that tommy keene is doing some left coast shows with gbv... while not as amazing as gbv and cheap trick pairing, its tops as far as an guitar pop geeks ideal bill.
Damn! I haven't seen Tommy for years! Wonder if he's still any fun? The last several recorded works of his I heard were kind of....lame.
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he typically has yearly two night stint at iota... last time i went was magical. his matador releases were good by not at same level as "Songs from the film"
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Sub Pop Records
On their tour page
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While Shins, GBV and MMJ would be a great show, would the Shins be headlining or would GBV, have the Shins headlined here before? I would definitely rather have two separate headlining shows for the two bands.
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the shins with gbv? that would be sweet. if past history holds, i would imagine that gbv would play dc the night after philly, which would be a saturday night!! ahhhh yeah. . .
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Originally posted by jadetree:
While Shins, GBV and MMJ would be a great show, would the Shins be headlining or would GBV, have the Shins headlined here before? I would definitely rather have two separate headlining shows for the two bands.
I would assume that GBV play way too long to open for anyone else. :D
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No doubt GBV would be the headliner.
Not sure if the Shins have headlined here before.
I'm just pissy because Shins are playing bumbershoot on the night my brother already got us baseball tickets...so i'd prefer separate shows, never been a big fan of GBV
Originally posted by jadetree:
While Shins, GBV and MMJ would be a great show, would the Shins be headlining or would GBV, have the Shins headlined here before? I would definitely rather have two separate headlining shows for the two bands.
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GBV I guess is a required taste. But the way I see it, if you don't get it, I am sorry but you are missing something great.
Always have and always will be my favorite band. The Beatles of my time.
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Originally posted by marchdoe:
GBV I guess is a required taste. But the way I see it, if you don't get it, I am sorry but you are missing something great.
Always have and always will be my favorite band. The Beatles of my time.
I think they would rather be The Who of your time
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Originally posted by jadetree:
I think they would rather be The Who of your time
yeah, they've definately turned into the who of indie rock. but they put on one of the best shows of any band.
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Did you mean to say an ACQUIRED taste? I don't feel like they are a required taste.
Originally posted by marchdoe:
GBV I guess is a required taste. But the way I see it, if you don't get it, I am sorry but you are missing something great.
Always have and always will be my favorite band. The Beatles of my time.
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I love the new GBV website picture
<img src="http://gbv.com/gifs/scootersmoke2003small.jpg" alt=" - " />
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Originally posted by Rhett Miller:
[QB] Did you mean to say an ACQUIRED taste? I don't feel like they are a required taste.
they should be required listening though.
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Originally posted by Venerable Bede:
[QB]
they should be required listening though.
ALL RIGHT! ALL RIGHT! SHUT UP ALREADY!!!
Which album should I buy bede?
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It looks like at least three of them are on the road two cancer. The other two will die in motorcycle crashes.
Originally posted by jadetree:
I love the new GBV website picture
<img src="http://gbv.com/gifs/scootersmoke2003small.jpg" alt=" - " />
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Originally posted by mankie:
ALL RIGHT! ALL RIGHT! SHUT UP ALREADY!!!
Which album should I buy bede? [/QB]
"bee thousand" or "under the bushes, under the stars"
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Rhett, you missed one. Check out the hand of the Christopher Walken character. Think that's Bob but not sure.
That pic is really distorted by the lens and looks like lots of air brushing and some make up. Guess the hard life requires a lot of fixing up.
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Originally posted by mankie:
ALL RIGHT! ALL RIGHT! SHUT UP ALREADY!!!
Which album should I buy bede?
In my opinion, from what you have said about your tastes, I think Alien Lanes would be closest to something you would like.
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Originally posted by Venerable Bede:
"bee thousand" or "under the bushes, under the stars"
I would think a lot of people would be turned off if Bee Thousand was their first exposure
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well I listened to a couple of albums and didnt really enjoy them...Perhaps that was one of them?
I just think there are other things that Mankie would enjoy more.
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Just asked someone else not a board member and they said it doesn't matter which album I buy because after the first song or so...it's all the damn same!
Thoughts? Opinions?
Where are they from? They look ugly enough to be Brits, and the scooters with the factory behind them tends to suggest that also.
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Originally posted by mankie:
Just asked someone else not a board member and they said it doesn't matter which album I buy because after the first song or so...it's all the damn same!
Thoughts? Opinions?
Where are they from? They look ugly enough to be Brits, and the scooters with the factory behind them tends to suggest that also.
Well I disagree that after the first song it all sounds the same. But I would tend to agree that it may not be something you like. They are from Ohio, they are just obsessed with 60s British Rock. From allmusic -
Inspired equally by jangle pop and arty post-punk, Guided by Voices created a series of treblely, hissy indie rock records filled with infectiously brief pop songs that fell somewhere between the British Invasion and prog rock. After recording six self-released albums between 1986 and 1992, the Dayton, OH-based band attracted a handful of fans within the American indie-rock underground. With the 1994 release of Bee Thousand, the group became an unexpected alternative rock sensation, winning positive reviews throughout the mainstream music press and signing a larger distribution deal with Matador Records. Despite all of the attention, the band never changed their aesthetic, continuing to record their albums on cheap four-track tape decks and thereby limiting their potential audience, yet that devotion to lo-fi indie rock helped Guided by Voices maintain a sizable cult during the late '90s.
Schoolteacher Robert Pollard formed Guided by Voices in the early '80s. Throughout the group's history, Pollard was at the center, writing the majority of the songs and leading each incarnation of the band. During the '80s, Pollard was frequently joined by his brother Jim, who continued to write songs for the group even after his departure in the late '80s. Guided by Voices didn't beome a full-fledged band until guitarist Tobin Sprout and bassist Dan Toohey joined the group in 1985. A year later, the group released an EP, Forever Since Breakfast, on the local indie I Wanna Records. Guided by Voices released their first full-length album, Devil Between My Toes, on their own G Records in 1987; it was followed several months later by Sand Box, which appeared on Halo. Self-Inflicted Aerial Nostalgia, was released on Halo in 1989 and Same Place the Fly Got Smashed, appeared on Rocket #9 Records in 1990.
During the latter half of the '80s, Guided by Voices was essentially a hobby. The band rarely performed, and a wide array of musicians appeared on the group's albums ?? according to some estimations, nearly 40 musicians passed through the band during its first decade. Nearly all of the Guided by Voices albums before Vampire on Titus were recorded in Steve Wilbur's eight-track studio in his home garage; Wilbur occasionally played guitar and bass on the records. Guided by Voices added Mitch Mitchell (rhythm guitar) and Kevin Fennell (drums) around the time of Propeller (1992), which was released on Rockathon Records.
Prior to 1993's Vampire on Titus, all of Guided by Voices' records were essentially interchangable musically, and none were widely available. Vampire on Titus was the first album the band released on the Cleveland-based indie label Scat, and the wider distrubtion meant the record was heard by a larger audience. Soon, the group had won fans like fellow Dayton native Kim Deal (Pixies, Breeders) and Sonic Youth's Thurston Moore. Later in 1993, the band began playing live for the first time in several years, with Greg Demos replacing bassist Toohey. By the spring of 1994, Scat had entered a national distribution deal with Matador Records. Bee Thousand was the first album released under the deal, and it became a surprise word-of-mouth hit, earning positive reviews from mainstream publications like Rolling Stone and Entertainment Weekly. Pollard had quit teaching shortly before the spring release of Bee Thousand, and the group toured heavily behind the album, appearing on the second stage at several Lollapalooza dates. By the fall, GBV's video for "I Am a Scientist" was aired a handful of times on MTV. Demos left the band in late 1994 to study law and was replaced by music journalist Jim Greer.
By the release of 1995's Alien Lanes, the group had joined Matador's official roster; their contract with Scat was completed with the spring release of Box, a five-disc box set containing the band's pre-Propeller albums. Alien Lanes was greeted with positive reviews upon its March release, and the group embarked on its first full-scale American tour. Greer left the band before the recording for Under the Bushes, Under the Stars, which was released in spring of 1996. That fall, Robert Pollard and Tobin Sprout both released solo albums on the same day; the records were quickly followed by an album-length EP a month after their release. As the solo albums indicated, Pollard and Sprout had a falling out during the group's extensive tour earlier that year, which resulted in Robert firing the rest of the group. At the end of 1996, Pollard recorded the next Guided by Voices record, Mag Earwhig, supported by the Cleveland garage-punk band Cobra Verde. The band's TVT label debut, the Ric Ocasek-produced Do the Collapse, followed in 1999. One year later, GbV released the second major box set of their career, Suitcase: Failed Experiments and Trashed Aircraft, a collection including over 100 unreleased recordings and reportedly spanning 25 years. Another studio effort, Isolation Drills, appeared in early 2001.
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Originally posted by jadetree:
I would think a lot of people would be turned off if Bee Thousand was their first exposure
that was the first one i got, and i loved it. hmmm, "universal truths and cycles" is quite accessible, and probably more representative of what they sound like today as opposed to the mid 90s.
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looks like bee thousand is the standard gbv recommendation. i have two copies of that one. the second one bought based on a hardcore gbv fan suggestion, i forgotten about the other one being already buried in my collection.
maybe mankie could provide a good home for it... emusic.com has several gbv releases as well.
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like this new Pernice Brothers album. :)
Originally posted by Andrew WK:
well I listened to a couple of albums and didnt really enjoy them...Perhaps that was one of them?
I just think there are other things that Mankie would enjoy more.
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I'll take the Pernice Brothers over GBV. Not a big fan, but I sort of liked what I've heard so far. Surprised my butt!
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Here is the beginners guide to buying Guided by Voices that appeared in MOJO magazine.
http://gbv.com/mojoaugust2002buyingguide.html (http://gbv.com/mojoaugust2002buyingguide.html)
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Originally posted by Venerable Bede:
Originally posted by jadetree:
I would think a lot of people would be turned off if Bee Thousand was their first exposure
that was the first one i got, and i loved it. hmmm, "universal truths and cycles" is quite accessible, and probably more representative of what they sound like today as opposed to the mid 90s. [/b]
Bee Thousand was also my first, and then Mag Earwhig, two very different albums. And while I love it, I think Bee Thousand will lose a lot of people as soon as Hot freaks comes on. Alien Lanes is pretty accesible and has A Salty Salute, Motor Away, Watch Me Jumpstart, My Valuable Hunting Knife, Striped White Jets and Game of Pricks. Hard to go wrong there.
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Originally posted by jadetree:
Bee Thousand was also my first, and then Mag Earwhig, two very different albums. And while I love it, I think Bee Thousand will lose a lot of people as soon as Hot freaks comes on. Alien Lanes is pretty accesible and has A Salty Salute, Motor Away, Watch Me Jumpstart, My Valuable Hunting Knife, Striped White Jets and Game of Pricks. Hard to go wrong there.
actually, i'd have start with "under the bushes, under the stars." there's not one bad song on it. . .it's got Official Ironman Rally Song, Acorns and Orioles, Redmen and Their Wives, Drag Days, Cut-Out Witch, Your Name is Wild, Don't Stop Now. i mean, it's hard to find an album that contains 24 songs where all songs are consistently good. i find alien lanes a bit difficult to listen to in its entirety.
Launch has 3 videos on it, of which, i'd only watch the video for Official Ironman Rally Song, that is by far and away one of their 2 or 3 best songs.
http://launch.yahoo.com/artist/default.asp?artistID=1011069 (http://launch.yahoo.com/artist/default.asp?artistID=1011069)
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The thing about GBV is the story for me. Just a bunch of guys (not just the ones in the band, the monument club and so on and so forth) having fun on the weekends. Never trying to be much of anything. Then someone leaked Propellor, and Bob started to realize his dream.
I would liken GBV more to the Beatles though, for me their music is the earlier stuff which is more beatlesk than the latter which would be more like the who.
GBV is a rock n roll American Dream
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Originally posted by Venerable Bede:
Official Ironman Rally Song
good song but probably not even in my top ten, which in no particular order are probably -
Cut-Out Witch
A Salty Salute
Motor Away
I Am A Tree
Supermarket the Moon
Hot Freaks (can't explain it, but I love it)
Tractor Rape Chain
I Am a Scientist
Bomb In The Bee-Hive
I Am Produced
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ok, my top 10, in no particular order:
official ironman rally song
weed king
goldheart mountaintop queen directory
redmen and their wives
my son cool
liquid indian
kicker of elves
christian animation torch carriers
jane of the waking universe
gleemer
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a pollard top ten is too much fun to pass on, but limiting to only at ten is tough:
glad girls
alone, stinking & unafraid
big boring wedding
quality of armor
motor away
tight globes
psychic pilot clocks out
bright paper werewolves
goldheart mountaintop queen directory
teenage fbi
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gbv.com says they are playing live on penn - july 12th
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Is it at least sponsored by some sort of alcoholic beverage? Do they know what they're getting into booking GBV?
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Yeah I am wondering how this show is going to work, not a great venue for GBV.
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I will go if it's a cloudy day.
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live on Penn?
Is that a step up or a step down from a state fair?
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state fairs rock. lots of mullets everywhere.
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yeah and ll that deep fried food and big redneck guys with tattoos and skinny waists who could nail one really hard in the toilets stalls.....
Sorry, just got carried away.
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I'm really curious how crowded these Live on Penn shows will be.
Here's hoping the sound is really good for those of us old farts who will not fight throngss of eager teenagers and college kids in 90+ degree humid heat.
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well, i'm gonna be out in alabama that weekend. while i would definately go out to see gbv, i'm still more excited for a full show in september, as opposed to an opener slot in the heat.
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Originally posted by marchdoe:
GBV I guess is a required taste. But the way I see it, if you don't get it, I am sorry but you are missing something great.
GBV live on canadian radio: go to http://www.radiosonic.com (http://www.radiosonic.com) and it explains how to listen live
with Realplayer.
You can also listen to 30 minutes of the show live now on the Just
Concerts site:
http://www.justconcerts.com/concerts/concert.cfm?Concert_Id=139 (http://www.justconcerts.com/concerts/concert.cfm?Concert_Id=139)
Also available to listen to is a 2003 show by my boys Frank Black and
the Catholics live in Regina and a session by uber-GBV fans Chore, plus
a live set and a session by the Constantines that you should all check
out. I also see there is a good Sonic Youth show up. They are promising
to start archiving full shows online as well and not just portions like
they are currently.
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Radiosonic use to be my favorite radio show to listen to back in motown... they always had great concerts and interviews.
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[QB] Originally posted by marchdoe:
[qb] GBV I guess is a required taste. But the way I see it, if you don't get it, I am sorry but you are missing something great. Here's a few more chances to catch em live:
Saturday Aug 16 - Birdy's, Indianapolis, IN
Wednesday Sept 3 - Paradise, Boston, MA
Thursday Sept 4 - Irving Plaza, New York, NY
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from gbv.com:
Friday September 5
Philadelphia, PA - Trocadero
MAGNET's 10th ANNIVERSARY SHOW:
Guided By Voices
Shins
My Morning Jacket
$19 - ALL ages - 21+ to drink
My Morning Jacket: 8 p.m.
Shins: 9:30 p.m.
Guided By Voices: 11 p.m.
For ticket info: MAGNET's Home Page
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Does the fact that GBV is appearing here in July imply they'll skip here in Sept?
And will we get a separate Shins show?
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Originally posted by Rhett Miller:
Does the fact that GBV is appearing here in July imply they'll skip here in Sept?
And will we get a separate Shins show?
they'll definately play here in september. . probably around sep. 6. they aren't the headliner for the live on penn show.
i think the shins are off to austin after that show in philly.
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Is this guy jealous or what?
http://www.filter-mag.com/news/interior.346 (http://www.filter-mag.com/news/interior.346)
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Sparx, that link didn't work for me.
Second, do you have it on good authority that GBV won't come through DC in September? You intimated so on another thread.
Thanks
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Originally posted by bags:
Sparx, that link didn't work for me.
Thanks
Stick a .html at the end.that should do it.As for the 2nd question,let me get back to you on that.I need to do some checking to be sure.
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Originally posted by SPARX:
Is this guy jealous or what?
http://www.filter-mag.com/news/interior.346.html (http://www.filter-mag.com/news/interior.346.html)
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Actually the Shins don't have anything until a Ft Worth show September 19 that precedes their ACL show.
Originally posted by Venerable Bede:
Originally posted by Rhett Miller:
Does the fact that GBV is appearing here in July imply they'll skip here in Sept?
And will we get a separate Shins show?
they'll definately play here in september. . probably around sep. 6. they aren't the headliner for the live on penn show.
i think the shins are off to austin after that show in philly. [/b]
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Originally posted by SPARX:
Originally posted by SPARX:
Is this guy jealous or what?
http://www.filter-mag.com/news/interior.346.html (http://www.filter-mag.com/news/interior.346.html)
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FANTASTIC. I'm going to GBV on Saturday and drinking as much beer as I can possibly consume. I don't do drugs, so it'll have to do.
Damn, I'm gonna have to deal with porta potties, aren't I? Well, if I'm drunk enough, I *wont care*.
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Personally, I found it kind of pathetic that a 45 year old man feels the need to act like a 21 year old party animal on stage, and use stage banter such as saying "Fuck You" to him mom. Grow up, loser.
The lyrics were inaudible to the casual fan, and his singing voice is pretty average, but the music was good.
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Originally posted by Rhett Miller:
The lyrics were inaudible to the casual fan, and his singing voice is pretty average, but the music was good.
Doesn't that describe many bands...past and present.
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Originally posted by Rhett Miller:
Personally, I found it kind of pathetic that a 45 year old man feels the need to act like a 21 year old party animal on stage, and use stage banter such as saying "Fuck You" to him mom. Grow up, loser.
This from someone who both spit on a mime and told an 8 year old to fuck off? :)
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Originally posted by Rhett Miller:
Personally, I found it kind of pathetic that a 45 year old man feels the need to act like a 21 year old party animal on stage, and use stage banter such as saying "Fuck You" to him mom. Grow up, loser.
The lyrics were inaudible to the casual fan, and his singing voice is pretty average, but the music was good.
I thought it was great -- that music is just so good and those songs are just so catchy. But you're right about the antics. On the one hand, it's all part of the Pollard persona and the audience just eats it up, but as we were laughing and cheering him on for opening another beer, I did have the thought, "we're cheering and I'll bet this guy is dead by 50." Of course, folks have probably been saying that to him/about him for years.
They were at a HFS tent after their set signing stuff -- but it was in the midst of the downpour, so I missed it (incorrectly assuming they'd blow it off with all that rain). Did anyone go by and talk to the band??
By the way, that drummer kicks ass.
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Originally posted by bags:
By the way, that drummer kicks ass.
He used to be in Shudder to Think but I am not sure if that is his only connection to DC or not.
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Well that's my way of saying I enjoyed myself but aint gonna run out and buy the back catalog.
Originally posted by mankie:
Originally posted by Rhett Miller:
The lyrics were inaudible to the casual fan, and his singing voice is pretty average, but the music was good.
Doesn't that describe many bands...past and present. [/b]
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hahahaha
For the record, I never said "fuck you" to an 8 year old, though I think saying "fuck you" to ones mother is much more of a sin than saying "fuck you" to a strangers 8 year old.
And I spit on the mime because he wouldn't get his paws off of my wife, even after being asked to stop.
And I'm only 36, so the legendary Bob has 9 years of maturity on me.
Originally posted by keithstg:
Originally posted by Rhett Miller:
Personally, I found it kind of pathetic that a 45 year old man feels the need to act like a 21 year old party animal on stage, and use stage banter such as saying "Fuck You" to him mom. Grow up, loser.
This from someone who both spit on a mime and told an 8 year old to fuck off? :) [/b]
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Originally posted by Rhett Miller:
The lyrics were inaudible to the casual fan, and his singing voice is pretty average, but the music was good.
yeah...I spied two casual obsevers, a young latina and a young black woman who were tickled at the lyrics "Black girl, I only wanna get you high..." so, maybe not completely inaudible, but unintelligible, or perhaps interpretable as one would like to interpret
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Originally posted by Rhett Miller:
[QB] Well that's my way of saying I enjoyed myself but aint gonna run out and buy the back catalog.
well, i should note that that's near impossible to do. . .
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Originally posted by Rhett Miller:
[QB] hahahaha
For the record, I never said "fuck you" to an 8 year old, though I think saying "fuck you" to ones mother is much more of a sin than saying "fuck you" to a strangers 8 year old.
Agreed.
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haha
"Black girl I only wanna get you high"
real lyric is
Hey Hey Glad Girls, Only want to get you high
Funny because this song is what was suppose to hit the airwaves for GBV well according to TVT.
Oh and you will be seeing me at the magnet show. Sound was great up by the stage.
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Funny I mis-heard it too.....
I was singing along.....
"hey hey, bad girls, I only wanna get you high"
I think mine is a better chorus than the real one. Oh well.
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Originally posted by the scientist:
Funny I mis-heard it too.....
I was singing along.....
"hey hey, bad girls, I only wanna get you high"
I think mine is a better chorus than the real one. Oh well.
LOL!
I agree. ;)
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What is a glad girl anyway? I'm thinking it's some hipster or alkie terminology I just don't know....
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Originally posted by bags:
What is a glad girl anyway? I'm thinking it's some hipster or alkie terminology I just don't know....
maybe it's just a girl that's happy?? course, bob does have some odd word pairings in his songs.
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That girl is all glad an' shit...
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glad she doesn't live in ohio with GBV...
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Originally posted by Rhett Miller:
glad she doesn't live in ohio with GBV...
you want to start something, pretty boy, go shake your head or something, your backdoor is open
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Erica the Beautiful is from Ohio, and she escaped...
Originally posted by Bob Pollard:
Originally posted by Rhett Miller:
glad she doesn't live in ohio with GBV...
you want to start something, pretty boy, go shake your head or something, your backdoor is open [/b]
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Originally posted by Rhett Miller:
Erica the Beautiful is from Ohio, and she escaped...
I wonder if she liked to sit around on the back porch and smoke dope, was she a glad girl? Was she a stick legged girl?
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Here are some great pics I thought I would share, not DC but check out the height on that leg kick
http://gbv.com/columbusoh2212003.html (http://gbv.com/columbusoh2212003.html)
Daltry would be proud
As for you Rhett, stick to rhett. We will continue to listen to GBV. Not trying to take a shot, but Mr Old 97 couldn't even come close to writing a song like Mr. Pollard. It is not his fault though, some have it, and some don't
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wow marchdoe, you should come to one of my family weddings, my dad and uncles all look like Bob dancing. You would probably be in heaven.
From what I have heard, Rhett Miller releases fewer songs than GBV, that makes them of an overall higher average quality.
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So is he Terence or Phillip?
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hahahahaha that is the funniest thing I've heard all day hahahahaha
Originally posted by marchdoe:
As for you Rhett, stick to rhett. We will continue to listen to GBV. Not trying to take a shot, but Mr Old 97 couldn't even come close to writing a song like Mr. Pollard. It is not his fault though, some have it, and some don't
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ok lets compare
rhett
Our Love
Richard Wagner's letters to his lover Mathilde were a mess
He should have quit before he had written the address
They made love on the mezzanine her husband was his friend
Vienna in a fugue-state working on a thing
That when he finished it took almost seven hours to sing
He still found time to write to her his heart-exploding words
Our love surpassed our love so fast
Our love's all wrong our love goes on and on
Our love became our love by name when I wrote it to you in a song
Our love goes on and on
Our love our love
Kafka in his letters to his lover Milena was alive
But he was waiting for a love that never would arrive
Their rendezvous was singular her husband was his friend
She is a living fire she is a reason to live
She is killing me burning only for him
I'll spend my whole life loving her my heart exploding words
Our love surpassed our love so fast
Our love's all wrong our love goes on and on
Our love became our love by name when I wrote it to you in a song
Our love goes on and on
Our love our love our love our love
Our love surpassed our love so fast
Our love's all wrong our love goes on and on
Our love became our love by name when I wrote it to you in a song
Our love goes on and on our love our love
Our love our love our love our love our love
Now Bob
The Brides Have Hit Glass
I don't come around
Never call or let her know
I got a life of my own
You know I hate to be around her
When she's like that
I wrote a song once about her
Called "The Brides Have Hit Glass"
You know it just won't last
To be on top of your own world
With no guardrails to cling to
You fall so very fast
It's very odd to find her up again
Staking out expansion
Seeking new exposure
And when she holds out an empty glass
And she comes for a handout
I ask for the same thing-it's sad
And I hold on so sure I can take all she can
Just to be around her
Just to feel bad
One day I will know
That's it's a waste of time
And there's a better road ahead of me
I just don't know how to make it there
So I'll just hang around and take my chance
Once again I'll roll the dice
And try to hang on to my shrinking paradise
And I'll hold out an empty glass
And I'll come for a handout
And I'll ask for the same thing-it's sad
And I'll hold on so confident
That's it all I can give
To try to find my way back
Just to hit glass
After looking at the comparison myself, i have realized it is unfair to compare them. Rhett sings of common, everyday things, doesn't really leave much to the imagination. While Bob uses wordplay, comes up with new words himself, or new ways of phrasing words. Each song can have a different meaning for each person. More so than that of what Rhett brings to the table.
So if you don't want to think and you want a catchy hooky pop song - turn to rhett
If you want to challenge yourself and try to delve into what the song really means to you - I would say go with Bob
After all which one has been compared to Lennon and McCartney?
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I prefer songs that are lyrically and musically straightforward. If I want to ponder issues, I prefer to ponder my own personal issues, not those of some drunk self-absorbed rock star wannabee.
I'll take Rhett's clever wordpaly and catchy tunes anyday...
Try this one on
Doreen
(Hitchhike to Rhome lyrics.
Minor variations found on Wreck Your Life.)
When I first met Doreen
She was barely seventeen.
She was drinking whiskey sours in the bar.
The way she tossed 'em back
I would've had a heart attack.
But as it is I let her drive my car.
We galloped through the boroughs
Like a pair of horny thoroughbreds,
Until I said, "Stop the car, Doreen."
Well you can roll your eyes and nod
But I swear that I saw God,
In the moonlight on a side street in the wreckage we call Queens.
Doreen, Doreen, Last night I had an awful dream.
You were laying in the arms of a man I'd never seen.
Come clean Doreen. Come clean Doreen.
Well I'm pulling into Cleveland
In a seven-seater tour van.
There's eight of us, so I'm sleeping on the floor.
The guy that plays the banjo
Keeps on handing me the Old Crow,
Which multiplies my sorrow, I can't take it anymore.
Doreen, Doreen, last night I had an awful dream.
You were laying in the arms of a man I'd never seen.
Come clean Doreen. Come clean Doreen.
Now I'm begging and I'm pleading,
"Well pull over guys, I'm bleeding.
There's a Fina off the highway with a phone."
I'm calling you Doreen,
But it rings and rings and rings.
Where is it that you are, if you aren't in our bed at home.
Doreen, Doreen, last night I had an awful dream.
You were laying in the arms of a man I'd never seen.
Come clean Doreen. Come clean Doreen.
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hey, I know a song written just about you marchdoe......
There was a half a harvest moon up on the hillside
Our love is made almost entirely of downside
Who would have thought it could feel so much better then?
Now there's a half a million things I wanna tell you
They tap the phone line and the speaker at the drive thru
Who would have thought it could feel so much different then?
Downtown, so weak
Let the idiot speak
Let the idiot speak
Let the idiot speak
Now there's strange way and awkward feelings
I'm bouncing off the wall, I'm talking to the ceilings
Who would have thought it could feel so bad sometimes?
Now there's a half a million reasons we can argue
You're right in front of me now and there's no one to talk to
Who would have thought it could feel so bad sometimes?
Downtown, so weak
Let the idiot speak
Let the idiot speak
Let the idiot speak
Let the idiot speak
Let the idiot speak
Let the idiot speak
(Solo)
Downtown, so weak
Let the idiot speak (Let the idiot speak)
Let the idiot speak (Let the idiot speak)
Let the idiot speak
Let the idiot speak (Let the idiot speak)
Let the idiot speak (Let the idiot speak)
Let the idiot speak
Let the idiot speak (Let the idiot speak)
Let the idiot speak (Let the idiot speak)
Let the idiot
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"I prefer to ponder my own personal issues, not those of some drunk self-absorbed rock star wannabee."
Spend 3 bucks and watch "watch me jumpstart"
Bob isn't some self-absorbed rock star, he is just a guy that has a dream. How American of him. How many "rock stars" would have signed autographs in a down poor. How many rock stars get you in on the guest list for their next show just because you mentioned a pizza joint in Dayton that you use to go to. You don't have to like GBV, just understand them. Just 5 average guys (well use to be, lineup has changed over the years) that had a dream, happened to know some instruments, and had a boombox to record on, so they chased it. Also Bob and the boys help out the indie scene a lot. Look at who they have toured with over the years to get them noticed. The Strokes wounldn't have been signed if it were not for Albert throwing their demo on the stage when GBV was playing in NYC. Pete Yorn, another example. My Morning Jacket, Creeper Lagoon, the Black Keys. All these bands toured with GBV way before you started talking about them and how Rhett Miller is so much better.
I think Rhett is great, however I don't slam other peoples favorite bands, nor do I try to make you listen to what I listen to.
When it comes to Bob I think Lou Reed said it best
"my shit is their gold"
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Originally posted by marchdoe:
"my shit is their gold"
Hardly.....
Hey hey, glad girls only want to get you high
And they're alright
There will be no coronation
There will be no flowers flowing in the light
That passes though me now
In the light that passes through me
Hey hey, glad girls only want to get you high
And they're alright
There will be no graduation
There will be no trumpets blowing in the light
That passes through me now
In the light that passes through me
With the sinking of the sun I've come to greet you
Clean your hands and go to sleep
Confess the dreams
Of good and bad men all around
Some are lost and some have found
The light that passes though me now
Yeah the light that passes through me
Hey hey, glad girls...
and if GBV ir responsible for all those shite derivitive acts you listed, well that is just another reason to hate GBV.
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Why is it that he's gone through so many band members?
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I believe Reed said Diamonds not Gold
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missed my point my man,
self loathing rock stars don't try and help out their music community.
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Originally posted by the scientist:
and if GBV ir responsible for all those shite derivitive acts you listed, well that is just another reason to hate GBV.
do you really want to say that??? those bands maybe shite, but do you blame/hate the beatles for all the shite derivitive bands that followed them?
btw, the wallflower still won't tell me where he stayed last weekend, so it's up to you and your wily charms to get it out of him.
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I wasn't aware I slammed GBV anywhere. I did slam Ohio, but so what? I actually said I thought they were pretty decent musically. His voice is pretty average, but then again so are many modern rock singers. Lyrically, I coudn't understand a word he sang, so I've no real opinion there.
You're the one who brought another artist into the conversation...
Originally posted by marchdoe:
"I prefer to ponder my own personal issues, not those of some drunk self-absorbed rock star wannabee."
Spend 3 bucks and watch "watch me jumpstart"
Bob isn't some self-absorbed rock star, he is just a guy that has a dream. How American of him. How many "rock stars" would have signed autographs in a down poor. How many rock stars get you in on the guest list for their next show just because you mentioned a pizza joint in Dayton that you use to go to. You don't have to like GBV, just understand them. Just 5 average guys (well use to be, lineup has changed over the years) that had a dream, happened to know some instruments, and had a boombox to record on, so they chased it. Also Bob and the boys help out the indie scene a lot. Look at who they have toured with over the years to get them noticed. The Strokes wounldn't have been signed if it were not for Albert throwing their demo on the stage when GBV was playing in NYC. Pete Yorn, another example. My Morning Jacket, Creeper Lagoon, the Black Keys. All these bands toured with GBV way before you started talking about them and how Rhett Miller is so much better.
I think Rhett is great, however I don't slam other peoples favorite bands, nor do I try to make you listen to what I listen to.
When it comes to Bob I think Lou Reed said it best
"my shit is their gold"
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Perhaps because he's a bit self-absorbed?
Originally posted by Rhett Miller:
Why is it that he's gone through so many band members?
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Originally posted by Venerable Bede:
]do you really want to say that??? those bands maybe shite, but do you blame/hate the beatles for all the shite derivitive bands that followed them?
btw, the wallflower still won't tell me where he stayed last weekend, so it's up to you and your wily charms to get it out of him. [/QB]
Well the Beatles didnt help them directly very often, a few songs for Peter and Gordon here, a few odd crap acts signed to apple there.
Can we hate them for Wings?
As for Wallflower I thought you said my willy ways......
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Originally posted by Rhett Miller:
Perhaps because he's a bit self-absorbed?
Originally posted by Rhett Miller:
Why is it that he's gone through so many band members?
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Are you talking to yourself?
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Bob = Guided by Voices
The other guys come from something called the Monument Club. Group of guys that get together every week. Drink beer (sorry Rhett) and talk about music. If you have seen Some Drinking Implied you have seen the monument club.
As for the mis quote, sorry, it was off the top of my head.
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Originally posted by Rhett Miller:
I prefer songs that are lyrically and musically straightforward. If I want to ponder issues, I prefer to ponder my own personal issues, not those of some drunk self-absorbed rock star wannabee.
Namechecking Wagner and Kafka is lyrically straightforward?
Sounds like pretentious dilletantism to me....
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What's so pretentious about Kafka? He was junior high required reading in my public school...
Using words like dilletantism is more pretentious than namechecking Kafka or Wagner.
Originally posted by ggw:
Originally posted by Rhett Miller:
I prefer songs that are lyrically and musically straightforward. If I want to ponder issues, I prefer to ponder my own personal issues, not those of some drunk self-absorbed rock star wannabee.
Namechecking Wagner and Kafka is lyrically straightforward?
Sounds like pretentious dilletantism to me.... [/b]
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Originally posted by Rhett Miller:
[QB] What's so pretentious about Kafka? He was junior high required reading in my public school...
Using words like dilletantism is more pretentious than namechecking Kafka or Wagner.
Namechecking Wagner and Kafka is pretentious while accompanied by little snippets out of their private lives and whatnot. If Kafka was required reading in your jr. high, I would love to meet some poor 12 year old who had to write a book report on The Metamorphosis.
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actually Rhett its only pretentious when you spell it correctly.......
dilettanteism
\Dil`et*tan"te*ism\, n. The state or quality of being a dilettante; the desultory pursuit of art, science, or literature.
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Originally posted by Rhett Miller:
Why is it that he's gone through so many band members?
well. . .originally, it was him and toby and other local musicians/friends who would drink and record in one's basement. then, they got a bit more famous, and set a line-up. . . .then, the bassist left to go back and resume his law practice, and they got a new bassist (kim deal's husband-of-sorts). . then, the drummer found god and he left and they got a new drummer. . .then, bob just wanted to work with other people (cobra verde). after that album, bob said that he didn't really want to work with them anymore, but kept the guitarist (doug gillard). . .then, he got two dayton session players (nate farley and tim tobias). finally, after going through a lot of drummers, they go kevin march (a damn fine drummer). basically, they just steal other peoples' drummers. :)
but more to the point. . .bob just likes working with new people and what new music can be made.
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Originally posted by the scientist:
actually Rhett its only pretentious when you spell it correctly.......
dilettanteism
\Dil`et*tan"te*ism\, n. The state or quality of being a dilettante; the desultory pursuit of art, science, or literature.
Thats right. When you spell it Ghetto-style, it means you're deck.
So Rhett, please explain the role and significance of Wagner and Kafka in the broader theme of Rhett's song?
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Sorry, the book report is long gone. But I can probably still produce my award winning junior high essay, "The Flag, Proudly Let It Wave" which took second place statewide in a conte4st sponsored by the uber-conservative Daughters of the American Revolution...
Originally posted by keithstg:
Originally posted by Rhett Miller:
[QB] What's so pretentious about Kafka? He was junior high required reading in my public school...
Using words like dilletantism is more pretentious than namechecking Kafka or Wagner.
Namechecking Wagner and Kafka is pretentious while accompanied by little snippets out of their private lives and whatnot. If Kafka was required reading in your jr. high, I would love to meet some poor 12 year old who had to write a book report on The Metamorphosis. [/b]
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Originally posted by the scientist:
actually Rhett its only pretentious when you spell it correctly.......
dilettanteism
\Dil`et*tan"te*ism\, n. The state or quality of being a dilettante; the desultory pursuit of art, science, or literature.
It must be a cold day in hell if you are calling someone out on misspelling.
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Originally posted by ggw:
Thats right. When you spell it Ghetto-style, it means you're deck.
[/b]
"DECK"
A platform extending horizontally from one side of a ship to the other.
A platform or surface likened to a ship's deck.
A roofless, floored structure, typically with a railing, that adjoins a house.
The roadway of a bridge or an elevated freeway.
A pack of playing cards.
A group of data processing cards.
A tape deck.
Slang A packet of narcotics.
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Originally posted by the scientist:
As for Wallflower I thought you said my willy ways......
that's between you and the wallflower. . .
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The undeniably rocking album-opener, "Our Love," also contains references not traditionally found in modern American pop music. "I got really into reading collected love letters, specifically the ones from Richard Wagner to his mistress and from Franz Kafka to his translator. Both of the women were married and both of the men were doomed. Wagner comes off in his letters like kind of an asshole, go figure, but Kafka's letters were so sweet it broke my heart to read them. I could totally identify with this guy. It was like his love was threatening to cause his heart to burst in his chest like a lemming's."
Originally posted by ggw:
Originally posted by the scientist:
actually Rhett its only pretentious when you spell it correctly.......
dilettanteism
\Dil`et*tan"te*ism\, n. The state or quality of being a dilettante; the desultory pursuit of art, science, or literature.
Thats right. When you spell it Ghetto-style, it means you're deck.
So Rhett, please explain the role and significance of Wagner and Kafka in the broader theme of Rhett's song? [/b]
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Originally posted by Rhett Miller:
The undeniably rocking album-opener, "Our Love," also contains references not traditionally found in modern American pop music. "I got really into reading collected love letters, specifically the ones from Richard Wagner to his mistress and from Franz Kafka to his translator. Both of the women were married and both of the men were doomed. Wagner comes off in his letters like kind of an asshole, go figure, but Kafka's letters were so sweet it broke my heart to read them. I could totally identify with this guy. It was like his love was threatening to cause his heart to burst in his chest like a lemming's."
Originally posted by ggw:
Originally posted by the scientist:
actually Rhett its only pretentious when you spell it correctly.......
dilettanteism
\Dil`et*tan"te*ism\, n. The state or quality of being a dilettante; the desultory pursuit of art, science, or literature.
Thats right. When you spell it Ghetto-style, it means you're deck.
So Rhett, please explain the role and significance of Wagner and Kafka in the broader theme of Rhett's song? [/b]
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How does this help you ponder your own personal issues?
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Who said it had to? I don't want to pschoanalyze a rock star, and I don't care if his music helps me to ponder my own issues.
His job is to keep me mentally and aurally entertained...
[/qb][/QUOTE][/qb][/QUOTE]How does this help you ponder your own personal issues? [/QB][/QUOTE]
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Originally posted by ggw:
It must be a cold day in hell if you are calling someone out on misspelling.
I always spell longer or rarer words correctly because I pay attention to how they are spelt. I dont really care about the simple words.
I hope you all know I can spell them already and that I am just lazy in my proofreading.
there is no surer way of looking a putz than mis-spelling an uncommon word. It makes it look like you are reaching beyond your abilities. The cardinal sin in the UK.
The other sure fire way of looking like an asshole is criticisizing other peoples spelling.
or never using commas , and going...... al the time......
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Originally posted by Rhett Miller:
I don't care if his music helps me to ponder my own issues
Originally posted by Rhett Miller:
I prefer to ponder my own personal issues,
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Originally posted by the scientist:
Originally posted by ggw:
It must be a cold day in hell if you are calling someone out on misspelling.
I always spell longer or rarer words correctly because I pay attention to how they are spelt. I dont really care about the simple words.
I hope you all know I can spell them already and that I am just lazy in my proofreading.
there is no surer way of looking a putz than mis-spelling an uncommon word. It makes it look like you are reaching beyond your abilities. The cardinal sin in the UK.
The other sure fire way of looking like an asshole is criticisizing other peoples spelling.
or never using commas , and going...... al the time...... [/b]
That's why I never criticisize other's spelling....
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my point exactly
you can look that shit up online and find out what it is.
Tell me what a Tractor Rape Chain is?
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Originally posted by ggw:
Originally posted by Rhett Miller:
I don't care if his music helps me to ponder my own issues
Originally posted by Rhett Miller:
I prefer to ponder my own personal issues,
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trying to point out the consistency in Rhetts postings? It all makes perfect sense to me.
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I don't use pop music as an aid to ponder my own personal issues. When I said I prefer to ponder my own issues, I meant I prefer to ponder my own issues rather than Bob Pollard's issues.
I'm not sure what your point is?
Originally posted by ggw:
Originally posted by Rhett Miller:
I don't care if his music helps me to ponder my own issues
Originally posted by Rhett Miller:
I prefer to ponder my own personal issues,
[/b]
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I thought having straight white teeth was the cardinal sin in Britain?
Originally posted by the scientist:
Originally posted by ggw:
It must be a cold day in hell if you are calling someone out on misspelling.
I always spell longer or rarer words correctly because I pay attention to how they are spelt. I dont really care about the simple words.
I hope you all know I can spell them already and that I am just lazy in my proofreading.
there is no surer way of looking a putz than mis-spelling an uncommon word. It makes it look like you are reaching beyond your abilities. The cardinal sin in the UK.
The other sure fire way of looking like an asshole is criticisizing other peoples spelling.
or never using commas , and going...... al the time...... [/b]
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Originally posted by ggw:
That's why I never criticisize other's spelling....
what is your point?
crit·i·cize ( P ) Pronunciation Key (krt-sz)
v. crit·i·cized, crit·i·ciz·ing, crit·i·ciz·es
v. tr.
1. To find fault with: criticized the decision as unrealistic. See Usage Note at critique.
2. To judge the merits and faults of; analyze and evaluate.
you can spell that word multiple ways. I prefer criticise, the English way. It does stem from crtic for gods sake. I used a Z to Americanise it a little.
critisize is awful looking.
Alright, asshole?
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wow I must have been struck by indecision I spelt it both ways....
As I know how to spell it, can you forgive me and pass it off as lazy proofreading, just like I already suggested?
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its arsehole you yankie cunt, oh wait a minute is that markie? or an american imposter
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oh I love it when you get angry..... <img src="http://www.chaletchardons.com/images/bungle.jpg" alt=" - " />
GRRRRRrrrr
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Could we please steer the conversation back the the legendary Guided by Voices?
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Originally posted by the scientist:
wow I must have been struck by indecision I spelt it both ways....
As I know how to spell it, can you forgive me and pass it off as lazy proofreading, just like I already suggested?
I would have, but then you called me "asshole."
I'm going to have to record this in my log book.
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your wish is my command
A really great piece of news for all DC GBV fans. (http://www.indiequirer.com/aug00/gbv.htm)
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Originally posted by Rhett Miller:
I'm not sure what your point is?
My point is, you stated you like straightforward lyrics. Allusions to arcane love letters written by Kafka and Wagner -- two figures that are overused by every pseudo-intellectual -- is hardly straightforward.
Moreover, those hard German consonant sounds (cough-cuh, Vog-nur) are generally cacophonous, not aurally pleasing.
So, neither argument for why you like that Rhett Miller song really hold up to the support you've offered.
So perhaps these allusions strike a chord with you as they did with Miller. But you say you don't want to ponder his personal issues or your own.
So I'm baffled why you find these lyrics superior to GBV's.
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Marchdoe used that song (Or Love)as his/her example. I didn't. I posted "Doreen", which I prefer lyrically to the GBV lyrics that were posted by marchdoe.
Originally posted by ggw:
Originally posted by Rhett Miller:
I'm not sure what your point is?
My point is, you stated you like straightforward lyrics. Allusions to arcane love letters written by Kafka and Wagner -- two figures that are overused by every pseudo-intellectual -- is hardly straightforward.
Moreover, those hard German consonant sounds (cough-cuh, Vog-nur) are generally cacophonous, not aurally pleasing.
So, neither argument for why you like that Rhett Miller song really hold up to the support you've offered.
So perhaps these allusions strike a chord with you as they did with Miller. But you say you don't want to ponder his personal issues or your own.
So I'm baffled why you find these lyrics superior to GBV's. [/b]
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Rhett is hotter, and has charming rather than annoying stage moves...and he actually PLAYS AN INSTRUMENT...so there!
That being said, I thought GBV were pretty alright...I'd buy one of their CDs if it were 2.50-5.00 at the CD Exchange (and that is not meant as an insult)
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Bob Pollard writes most of the music on the albums also. He has found it hard to remember the chords and the lyrics while preforming (a show has upwards of 60 songs and last for 3 hours) so he has chosen to sing instead of playing guitar.
if you liked the show, you probably won't like the recorded material. Too lo-fi for anyone that has been commenting about this show.
As for you Rhett, you are in a league of your own. Must be fun to get your jollies out of causing a stir.
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Originally posted by marchdoe:
Bob Pollard writes most of the music on the albums also. He has found it hard to remember the chords and the lyrics while preforming ...
guess all the booze fried his brain
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Aren't their lo-fi days behind them? How lo-fi can they be with Ric Ocasek producing them?
Originally posted by marchdoe:
Bob Pollard writes most of the music on the albums also. He has found it hard to remember the chords and the lyrics while preforming (a show has upwards of 60 songs and last for 3 hours) so he has chosen to sing instead of playing guitar.
if you liked the show, you probably won't like the recorded material. Too lo-fi for anyone that has been commenting about this show.
As for you Rhett, you are in a league of your own. Must be fun to get your jollies out of causing a stir.
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Originally posted by Rhett Miller:
Aren't their lo-fi days behind them? How lo-fi can they be with Ric Ocasek producing them?
Their lo-fi days are behind them, they moved more towards power pop, but now are somewhere in the middle. Ocasek was 4 albums ago, and will never happen again. Ocasek kept telling Pollard that Hold on Hope would break the band big, it is a horrible ballad and Pollard's least favorite song. They don't care for working with producers who are known for their own sound anymore.
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Originally posted by Rhett Miller:
[QB] Aren't their lo-fi days behind them? How lo-fi can they be with Ric Ocasek producing them?
well, he only produced one of the albums (probably their worst album too). yeah, they stopped being lo-fi when the signed up with tvt, but are rawking more with matador. i thought toby was the better songwriter though.
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the GBV moniker has turned more towards mid-fi, however the FCS (Fading Captain Series) leans more toward the experimental/lo-fi.
From my post before Tobin was the McCartney, Bob was the Lennon. Well that is how the guy on KCRW referred to them.
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Originally posted by the scientist:
your wish is my command
A really great piece of news for all DC GBV fans. (http://www.indiequirer.com/aug00/gbv.htm)
Fantastic, Markie.
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So all of those people who were going nuts for the band at live on Penn would all probably not like the recorded material?
if you liked the show, you probably won't like the recorded material. Too lo-fi for anyone that has been commenting about this show.
[/QB]
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Originally posted by bags:
]Fantastic, Markie.
Thanks.....
what does GBV stand for again?
<img src="http://www.unclestu.com/Douglas/gbv_final_front.jpg" alt=" - " />
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If you are just getting into them I probably would start with Isolation Drills, and work my way backwards, Then go to UTAC and EG. Staying away from DtC all together.
Bob's solo stuff blows away anything in my personal opinion. Kid Marine, Not in my Airforce are both masterpieces.
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actually it is Gaping Blue Vagina
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Originally posted by marchdoe:
Gaping Blue Vagina
That is a geat name for a band. I would go and see them, but I bet they would just be a bunch of twats.
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Originally posted by marchdoe:
If you are just getting into them I probably would start with Isolation Drills, and work my way backwards, Then go to UTAC and EG. Staying away from DtC all together.
Bob's solo stuff blows away anything in my personal opinion. Kid Marine, Not in my Airforce are both masterpieces.
I think most GBV fans find Vampire on Titus, Do the Collapse and ISOLATION DRILLS to be the worst 3 GBV albums.
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Very True Bob, But if you are not a fan, and just getting into them. I would suggest iso, mag, under the bushes, and work back chronologically, that way you spoon feed yourself until you get back to the extremely lo-fi stuff.
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scientist, you are in luck, they do exist and if you would like the album I would be happy to burn it for you.
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Originally posted by Bob Pollard:
[I think most GBV fans find Vampire on Titus, Do the Collapse and ISOLATION DRILLS to be the worst 3 GBV albums.
why do i think we've had this conversation before?? i agree with that characterization though. also, i think mag earwhig is incredibly hard to get into and/or appreciate without the low-fi background. but the scientist will probably just note how it is that 2 gbv fans don't agree on what's their best. :)
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Anyway, back to the show, it was the first time I had heard material off of Earthquake Glue other than My Kind of Soldier, and I wasnt crazy about it, anybody else feel the same way? Then again, I wasn't crazy about Universal Truths material when I first heard it live in April of last year and I thought that material sounded great at live on Penn.
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Bob, I have Earthquake Glue. Their are about 3 or 4 instant classics. The rest are growers. I put this above UTAC. Probably way above.
Useless Inventions
and
Best of Jill Hives are by far the best on the disc with a close third going to Secret Star.
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check it out....the article on Bob's no-hitter;
http://www.gbv.com/gifs/pollardnohitter.jpg (http://www.gbv.com/gifs/pollardnohitter.jpg)
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Cool new GBV article that includes a comment from Bob
about a possible new collaboration
http://www.galleryofsound.com/pages/type1u.asp?StoryID=1936 (http://www.galleryofsound.com/pages/type1u.asp?StoryID=1936)
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Originally posted by SPARX:
Cool new GBV article that includes a comment from Bob
about a possible new collaboration
http://www.galleryofsound.com/pages/type1u.asp?StoryID=1936 (http://www.galleryofsound.com/pages/type1u.asp?StoryID=1936)
??We??re not as drunk as we used to be,? says Pollard with a laugh. ??Oh, we??re still drunk, but not as drunk.?
It's a damn shame.
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Watch the new GBV video - http://gbv.com/mykindofsoldiervideo.html (http://gbv.com/mykindofsoldiervideo.html)
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Hey -
It's the My Kind of Soldier video;
http://www.gbv.com/mykindofsoldiervideo.html (http://www.gbv.com/mykindofsoldiervideo.html)
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hear the new album - http://gbv.com/index1.html (http://gbv.com/index1.html)
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Originally posted by Robert Pollard:
hear the new album - http://gbv.com/index1.html (http://gbv.com/index1.html)
You are a king among kings, my friend.
Greatest line from a friend of mine recently, "You had me at the cheesy leg kicks, Bob." I totally lost my shit.
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Starting to look like it could be November before the boys make it back this way: Thu, 10/16/03
7:30 pm Guided By Voices House of Blues Sunset Strip
Hollywood, CA
on sale now
Sat, 10/25/03
8:00 pm Guided By Voices Canes
San Diego, CA
on sale now
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Originally posted by SPARX:
Starting to look like it could be November before the boys make it back this way: Thu, 10/16/03
7:30 pm Guided By Voices House of Blues Sunset Strip
Hollywood, CA
on sale now
Sat, 10/25/03
8:00 pm Guided By Voices Canes
San Diego, CA
on sale now
I emailed Rich T. last night and he said it would indeed be November before they were on the East Coast.
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October West Coast dates... :eek:
Thu-Oct-16 Los Angeles, CA House Of Blues
Fri-Oct-17 San Francisco, CA Slim's
Sat-Oct-18 San Francisco, CA Slim's
Sun-Oct-19 off
Mon-Oct-20 Portland, OR Berbati's
Tue-Oct-21 Seattle, WA Graceland
Wed-Oct-22 Vancouver, BC Commodore Ballroom
Thu-Oct-23 off
Fri-Oct-24 Sacramento, CA Harlow's
Sat-Oct-25 San Diego, CA Cane's Ballroom
Sun-Oct-26 Anaheim, CA House Of Blues
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line up for Philly:
My Morning Jacket: 8 p.m.
The Shins: 9:30 p.m.
Guided By Voices: 11 p.m.
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Originally posted by SPARX:
line up for Philly:
My Morning Jacket: 8 p.m.
The Shins: 9:30 p.m.
Guided By Voices: 11 p.m.
I am really looking forward to this
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Originally posted by SPARX:
line up for Philly:
My Morning Jacket: 8 p.m.
The Shins: 9:30 p.m.
Guided By Voices: 11 p.m.
I received an email yesterday from the shins telling me I won two tickets to this show. May be the first time I have ever won anything.
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http://www.subgenius.com/bigfist/FIST2000-3/tips/X0005_Beatle_Bob_2000.html (http://www.subgenius.com/bigfist/FIST2000-3/tips/X0005_Beatle_Bob_2000.html)
So I heard Beattle Bob stars in the new GBV video (see link above). Can anybody confirm this?
I remember briefly chatting with him at a festival in Alabama about 7 years ago. Strange guy. Anybody else seen/met him?
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Yeah, there was a link to the video, I think in this thread...? It's Beatle Bob. A friend of mine verified it from seeing him at SXSW. I'd never heard of him, thought he was some kind of character spewing forth from Pollard's brain.
http://www.guidedbyvoices.com/mykindofsoldiervideo.html (http://www.guidedbyvoices.com/mykindofsoldiervideo.html)
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Originally posted by Rhett Miller:
http://www.subgenius.com/bigfist/FIST2000-3/tips/X0005_Beatle_Bob_2000.html (http://www.subgenius.com/bigfist/FIST2000-3/tips/X0005_Beatle_Bob_2000.html)
So I heard Beattle Bob stars in the new GBV video (see link above). Can anybody confirm this?
I remember briefly chatting with him at a festival in Alabama about 7 years ago. Strange guy. Anybody else seen/met him?
Yes,that is indeed the infamous Beatle Bob.
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from GBV email list -
Guided by Voices would like to announce that Chris
Slusarenko (Sprinkler, Svelt, Off Records) will be
playing bass for the band on all the upcoming US tour dates and Sam Powers (Superdrag) will be handling bass duties for the upcoming European tour.
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Originally posted by jadetree:
from GBV email list -
Guided by Voices would like to announce that Chris
Slusarenko (Sprinkler, Svelt, Off Records) will be
playing bass for the band on all the upcoming US tour dates and Sam Powers (Superdrag) will be handling bass duties for the upcoming European tour.
Not sure what all the hush hush is about this,I hope Tim's Ok.
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Originally posted by SPARX:
Not sure what all the hush hush is about this,I hope Tim's Ok.
I hope so to, but it could just be that he wanted to play guitar, they have not even said that Tim is out, maybe Nate is out and Tim will play guitar. Who knows.
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Originally posted by jadetree:
Originally posted by SPARX:
Not sure what all the hush hush is about this,I hope Tim's Ok.
I hope so to, but it could just be that he wanted to play guitar, they have not even said that Tim is out, maybe Nate is out and Tim will play guitar. Who knows. [/b]
Tim has vanished from GBV.com.He is no longer listed ANYWHERE.What gives?
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Originally posted by SPARX:
Tim has vanished from GBV.com.He is no longer listed ANYWHERE.What gives?
makes me believe there was some kind of major falling out, which is a big deal considering the involvement of his brother with the band as well
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Originally posted by jadetree:
Originally posted by SPARX:
Tim has vanished from GBV.com.He is no longer listed ANYWHERE.What gives?
makes me believe there was some kind of major falling out, which is a big deal considering the involvement of his brother with the band as well [/b]
Yep,i'd have to agree.He always seemed like he enjoyed playing with them and with everything so secre tive,it can't be amicable.Bob could be making a big mistake here,those 2 really helped the band out in many ways.
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It's got to be a different Tim right? Rock Around the World
Newspaper Articles - Issue 13
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L.A GETAWAY
-by Stephen Peeples
Your fleetfooted scribe really had to move this summer to keep up with the ridiculously large number of excellent live sets in town. Next summer I'm going to have ball bearings installed in my bootheels. Meanwhile, on with the highlights.
Al Stewart and his band rolled back to L.A. with a couple new guys in the lineup -- Robin Lamble has replaced Peter Robinson on bass, and Tim Tobias has been added on keyboards. Stewart's Universal Amphitheater sets were very well-received in spite of the venue's aforementioned volume restrictions. And though it's logistically difficult to use his "Roads To Moscow" slideshow, both the tune and the presentation were sorely missed. But a couple nice surprises made up for it -- new tunes like "Palace Of Versailles" (about the French Revolution) and "Ton Ton Macute" (about former Haitian dictator Papa Doc Duvalier). Also, "You Should Have Listened To Al", a tune from the soon-to-be re-released Love Chronicles LP, originally released in England back in '69. The second LP in the double-pocket repackage is a collection of the best from his other three English albums, by the way.
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GBV's relationship with Todd Tobias will not be
changed.
Circus Devils will still continue.
Rich
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I will have an official announcement later on next
week but the next Fading Captain series release is all
set. The Circus Devils - Pinball Mars (FCS 29) is
finished and in the can for its annual October 31st
release. I truly feel this is #1 of the 3 albums so
far (I was a fan of the two others mind you). Kind of
the perfect blend of the jaw dropping stuff from
Ringworm Interiors with the more song structured
Harold Pig Memorial. I will have track listings and
such next week.
PLEASE DO NOT EMAIL LUNA ABOUT ORDERING A COPY. IT IS
NOT EADY FOR PRE-ORDER YET.
Rich
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Catch the Asteroid No.4 LIVE this weekend in Philly and New York
Friday, September 5, AKA Records In-store, Philadelphia, PA
Going to the Magnet Anniversary Show at the Troc? Stop by AKA records at 2nd and Market and see a stripped down A4. Starts around 6ish.
Rainbow Quartz/Turquoise Mountain
www.rainbowquartz.com/rqradio.asp (http://www.rainbowquartz.com/rqradio.asp)
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Originally posted by SPARX:
Catch the Asteroid No.4 LIVE this weekend in Philly and New York
Friday, September 5, AKA Records In-store, Philadelphia, PA
Going to the Magnet Anniversary Show at the Troc? Stop by AKA records at 2nd and Market and see a stripped down A4. Starts around 6ish.
Rainbow Quartz/Turquoise Mountain
www.rainbowquartz.com/rqradio.asp (http://www.rainbowquartz.com/rqradio.asp)
Anybody know how close that is to The Troc? Not sure what time I will be in town, but will consider it.
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happy gbv day!!! who's all driving up to philly for the show tonight??
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Originally posted by Venerable Bede:
happy gbv day!!! who's all driving up to philly for the show tonight??
I will be there, they have added a few pre-propeller songs to the setlist, should be interesting, I will also finally hopefully here a track off of Mag Earwhig, Little Lines
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Originally posted by jadetree:
I will be there, they have added a few pre-propeller songs to the setlist, should be interesting, I will also finally hopefully here a track off of Mag Earwhig, Little Lines
pre-propeller? i guess it's too much to ask for "portrait destroyed by fire," eh? saw the mag earwhig tour. . .only time i've seen bob's brother out on tour, their version of "i am produced" was excellent.
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Originally posted by Venerable Bede:
pre-propeller? i guess it's too much to ask for "portrait destroyed by fire," eh? saw the mag earwhig tour. . .only time i've seen bob's brother out on tour, their version of "i am produced" was excellent.
would love to see I am Produced, one of my favorites, really looking forward to this because I am actually looking forward to hearing the new album live, unlike the last 3 albums
here is the setlist from Boston a couple of nights ago -
Mascara Snakes/My Son, My Secretary, My County/I'll Replace You With Machines/My Kind Of Soldier/Little Lines/Red Ink Superman/Bull Spears/Things That I Will Keep/Beg For A Wheelbarrow/She Goes Off At Night/Christian Animations Torch Carriers/Back To The Lake/Starts At The River/Useless Inventions/Dirty Water/Best Of Jill Hives/Game Of Pricks/Mix Up The Satellite/Hey Aardvark/Murder Charge/From A Voice Plantation/Skills Like This/Buzzards And Dreadful Crows/Skin Parade/A Trophy Mule In Particular/Apology In Advance/Secret Star/Fair Touching/Wire Greyhounds/Storm Vibrations/Watch Me Jumpstart/Alone, Stinking, and Unafraid/Glad Girls/Harrison Adams/Everywhere With Helicopter/Drinkers Peace/Cut-out Witch/Of Mites and Men/---ENCORE---A Salty Salute/The Ids are Alright/Lethargy/Teenage FBI/The Brides Have Hit Glass/I am a Scientist/Echos Myron/Don't Stop Now
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Little bit of GBV knews -- Bob Pollard is working on an album with Tommy Keene. They're hoping for a Spring 2004 release. How COOL is that? (If you don't think it's cool, feel free not to comment.)
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So the show was fantastic.
The Shins were great, really looking forward to the new album now. They were better than I could have hoped. For all those people who complain about DC crowds though, you should have seen the crowd in Philly for the Shins. It was quite impressive how perfectly still they stood.
Guided by Voices played a short set (for them) but it was still a real good time. The new material sounded great, and even though a bit of the antics were gone since there is a new bassist, he filled in well.
Missed most of My Morning Jacket because the Troc has this bizarre policy of only having alcohol upstairs. So we decided to drink through MMJ and be down front for the Shins and GBV. Being there made me realize how lucky we are for the great venues in DC. What we saw of MMJ was good though, just not to the level of the Shins or GBV.
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Originally posted by jadetree:
Missed most of My Morning Jacket because the Troc has this bizarre policy of only having alcohol upstairs. So we decided to drink through MMJ and be down front for the Shins and GBV. Being there made me realize how lucky we are for the great venues in DC. What we saw of MMJ was good though, just not to the level of the Shins or GBV.
that policy changes on a nightly basis, depending on the show and the expected size of the crowd. luna played the next night at the troc, and beer was being served on the floor. puzzling.
the shins were indeed excellent. would have liked a full gbv set, but every little bit is worth the price of admission. loved hearing murder charge live. but buffalo and that other guy were annoying as hell.
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Originally posted by Venerable Bede:
but buffalo and that other guy were annoying as hell.
you mean the one who got in your face?
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Originally posted by jadetree:
you mean the one who got in your face?
yeah. . .they're the ones.
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Originally posted by jadetree:
For all those people who complain about DC crowds though, you should have seen the crowd in Philly for the Shins. It was quite impressive how perfectly still they stood.
AHA. Just as I have always suspected! I think we get an abnormally bad rap from D.C. folks about our own crowds. And yet, for all the complaints, it's hard to imagine that everyone complaining is *not* standing still themselves.
Jadetree, the decision to get some drinking in during MMJ has me thinking, "Jadetree sounds like an excellent concert buddy!"
Glad you had a great show.
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I wouldn't excactly call the Shins music to dance to. Probably one of the reasons I like them so much. I'd be fine if there was no dancing at any show I went to. Dancing is so gay.
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Originally posted by Rhett Miller:
I wouldn't excactly call the Shins music to dance to. Probably one of the reasons I like them so much. I'd be fine if there was no dancing at any show I went to. Dancing is so gay.
I'm proud....to be....a gay show dancer!
There is a middle ground between dancing and imitating a standing corpse (requisite folded arms pose and all). There are too many standing corpses at indie shows.
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Originally posted by bags:
Jadetree, the decision to get some drinking in during MMJ has me thinking, "Jadetree sounds like an excellent concert buddy!"
He's a great concert buddy, except when he's telling you, "Dude, you're going to be so messed up. Pace yourself." I was on track to leave the Troc on a stretcher. Thanks to Jadetree, I was actually able to walk out of that place. How very un-GbV is that?
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Originally posted by lefty:
[QB] Thanks to Jadetree, I was actually able to walk out of that place. How very un-GbV is that?
very un-gbv like. you should try to go drink for drink during the show with bob, and assume that you are going drink for drink with bob before the show. . .if you are up to it, you should continue such activity after the show, cause you know that bob will still be drinking after the show.
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How on earth does Bob do it? I so wanted to ask that question to Tommy Keene, who's working with him now and did a couple dates with GBV in CA in late August. But the question seems awfully uncouth, so I didn't.
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Originally posted by lefty:
He's a great concert buddy, except when he's telling you, "Dude, you're going to be so messed up. Pace yourself." I was on track to leave the Troc on a stretcher. Thanks to Jadetree, I was actually able to walk out of that place. How very un-GbV is that?
I don't believe I said "Dude"
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Originally posted by jadetree:
I don't believe I said "Dude"
Maybe not, but my abuse of Jack Daniels managed to permanently alter my recollection of the evening. Thanks for that, by the way.
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aND IF i don't conform to that middle ground, does that make me a rebel? :)
Originally posted by bags:
Originally posted by Rhett Miller:
I wouldn't excactly call the Shins music to dance to. Probably one of the reasons I like them so much. I'd be fine if there was no dancing at any show I went to. Dancing is so gay.
I'm proud....to be....a gay show dancer!
There is a middle ground between dancing and imitating a standing corpse (requisite folded arms pose and all). There are too many standing corpses at indie shows. [/b]
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na just makes you a boring sole.
The floor of the troc was the craziest I have ever seen during cut out witch, tractor rape chain, and game of pricks. Give me that any day over standing. If I wanted to stand, I would stay home, and write messages on a message board all night.
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Nope, the rebels are the folks who *do* take that middle ground. Because they actually *appear* to be enjoying the music, which apparently is not so deck!
:)
Originally posted by bags:
Originally posted by Rhett Miller:
I wouldn't excactly call the Shins music to dance to. Probably one of the reasons I like them so much. I'd be fine if there was no dancing at any show I went to. Dancing is so gay.
I'm proud....to be....a gay show dancer!
There is a middle ground between dancing and imitating a standing corpse (requisite folded arms pose and all). There are too many standing corpses at indie shows. [/b]
[/b][/quote]
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Originally posted by bags:
Originally posted by Rhett Miller:
I wouldn't excactly call the Shins music to dance to. Probably one of the reasons I like them so much. I'd be fine if there was no dancing at any show I went to. Dancing is so gay.
I'm proud....to be....a gay show dancer!
[/b]
Me too.
I'm out of the closet; I'm a gay Indie show dancer!
I looked for you Saturday night, Bags, put I had no idea exactly who I was looking for. Nice to have almost met you.
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I'm trying to fit in with you indie hipsters so I have another concert behaviour question..
When is it fin to sing along with the band and when is it deck?
I know there's times when either may apply.
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I was up at the end of the bar right by the stage, wearing a black Fleshtones t-shirt. And dancing a lot. Then when Tommy mentioned the wedding, I requested "I Will Survive" because I'm a little bit of a goober (who drank a lot of heffeweisen) as well!
I remember going to the Carlsonics Fort Reno show and thinking, "I know there are people from the Board here, but how on earth can I tell? Maybe those hipsters over there, maybe those hipsters -- hell, maybe those parents with the hipster toddler behind me!"
Originally posted by Jaguär:
Originally posted by bags:
Originally posted by Rhett Miller:
I wouldn't excactly call the Shins music to dance to. Probably one of the reasons I like them so much. I'd be fine if there was no dancing at any show I went to. Dancing is so gay.
I'm proud....to be....a gay show dancer!
[/b]
Me too.
I'm out of the closet; I'm a gay Indie show dancer!
I looked for you Saturday night, Bags, put I had no idea exactly who I was looking for. Nice to have almost met you. [/b]
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Originally posted by bags:
I was up at the end of the bar right by the stage, wearing a black Fleshtones t-shirt. And dancing a lot. Then when Tommy mentioned the wedding, I requested "I Will Survive" because I'm a little bit of a goober (who drank a lot of heffeweisen) as well!
:D
In fact, I had wondered if that was you and almost asked but, no offense, I didn't want to ask the wrong person if they were Bags.
I was only a couple people away from you. The lady in red.
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Yeah, Bags isn't the greatest nickname -- it's from High School. When they passed a regulation that you can't use vanity plates on a business car and still deduct it, my Dad put the plates on my car. My last name is Bagot, so....
Hope I didn't embarrass myself too much! :D
In fact, I had wondered if that was you and almost asked but, no offense, I didn't want to ask the wrong person if they were Bags.
I was only a couple people away from you. The lady in red. [/b][/quote]
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Originally posted by bags:
Hope I didn't embarrass myself too much! ;)
Had you been sitting at the bar?
___________________________
Not at all!!!!
Yes, only a couple people down from you and around the corner.
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Awesome -- next time we'll say hi!
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On November 4th, Matador will be releasing "Hardcore
UFOs : Revelations, Epiphanies and Fast Food in the
Western Hemisphere", the definitive Guided By Voices
box set of 5 CDs plus 1 DVD in deluxe slipcase with
large perfect-bound booklet.
Contents will include:
* "The Best of Guided By Voices: Human Amusements At
Hourly Rates", consisting of the band's greatest songs
from 1987 through 2003, selected and sequenced by
GBV's Robert Pollard
*a DVD with an expanded version of the 1996 "Watch Me
Jumpstart" documentary, directed by Banks Tarver, now
containing extra footage, live material and all of the
bands promotional video clips.
* a CD (titled : LIVE AT THE WHEELCHAIR RACES ) of
unreleased live material from throughout GBV's career,
selected by Robert Pollard and Rich Turiel
* one CD (titled : DELICIOUS PIE & THANK YOU FOR
CALLING) of unreleased studio material selected by
Robert Pollard
* one CD (titled : DEMONS AND PAINKILLERS) consisting
of all the band's Matador Records singles and
compilation tracks.
* the first ever CD release of GBV's debut EP,
"Forever Since Breakfast", originally released in 1986
In addition, "The Best of GBV" CD and the "Watch Me
Jumpstart" DVD will be available separately for those
who do not wish to purchase the entire box set. The
'Best of Guided By Voices CD" will be at a special low
price, with a different sequence from the version
contained in the box set. All the releases will be
available simultaneously on November 4th.
Rich
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Here's a track listing of the best of: 01 A Salty Salute
02 Things I Will Keep
03 Everywhere With Helicopter
04 I Am a Tree
05 My Kind of Soldier
06 14 Cheerleader Coldfront
07 Twilight Campfighter
08 Echos Myron
09 Learning To Hunt
10 Bulldog Skin
11 Captain's Dead
12 Tractor Rape Chain
13 Game of Pricks
14 To Remake the Young Flyer
15 Hit
16 Glad Girls
17 Drinker's Peace
18 Surgical Focus
19 Cut-Out Witch
20 The Best of Jill Hives
21 Hot Freaks
22 Shocker in Gloomtown
23 Chasing Heather Crazy
24 My Valuable Hunting Knife
25 The Official Ironmen Rally Song
26 Non-Absorbing
27 Motor Away
28 Teenage FBI
29 Watch Me Jumpstart
30 Exit Flagger
31 Back to the Lake
32 I Am a Scientist
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oh, i could have done without having "everywhere with helicopter" on it. . .i don't know how "goldheart mountain top queen directory" isn't on the list though.
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get a room!!!!
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Due to the fact that the ink still isn't dry on all
that lawyer material between Matador, Scat & TVT I
can't tell ya what is and what isn't on the box set
yet but hopefully we'll be able to tell all soon.
Rich
Also if you click on the images on:
http://www.gbv.com/hardcoreufosannouncement.html (http://www.gbv.com/hardcoreufosannouncement.html)
you'll see a bigger version of each cover.
Rich
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Pictures from the Philly show including all 3 bands on stage for the finale
http://www.gbv.com/philadelphiapa952003.html (http://www.gbv.com/philadelphiapa952003.html)
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they'er playing them on kexp right now
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Originally posted by jadetree:
Pictures from the Philly show including all 3 bands on stage for the finale
http://www.gbv.com/philadelphiapa952003.html (http://www.gbv.com/philadelphiapa952003.html)
Did Chris fit in well on bass?He was in a GBV cover band from Portland "Giant Bug Village" before so he shoulda known the songs.I can't help but miss Tim,such a great guy.Hey Jadetree,were you at the GBV show w/the Strokes at Black Cat a few years back?
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Originally posted by SPARX:
Did Chris fit in well on bass?He was in a GBV cover band from Portland "Giant Bug Village" before so he shoulda known the songs.I can't help but miss Tim,such a great guy.Hey Jadetree,were you at the GBV show w/the Strokes at Black Cat a few years back?
Chris was ok, but I missed Tim, Nate did not seem to happy with him either. I still had a good time. Was not at the Black Cat show.
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Originally posted by jadetree:
[[/qb]
Chris was ok, but I missed Tim, Nate did not seem to happy with him either. I still had a good time. Was not at the Black Cat show. [/QB][/QUOTE] Yep,it will take Nate awhile to get over losing Tim.They definitely fed off of each other live.Man,I can't figure out what would've caused such a hasty departure.
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Originally posted by SPARX:
Hey Jadetree,were you at the GBV show w/the Strokes at Black Cat a few years back?
i was there. . .i missed the strokes for the second straight night too (they played philly the night before, and got there when gbv took the stage). they closed with baba o'reilly if i remember correctly.
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The Von Bondies are opening for GBV on the west coast, no word yet whether or not they will stay on for the east coast
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Originally posted by jadetree:
The Von Bondies are opening for GBV on the west coast, no word yet whether or not they will stay on for the east coast
I'd love to see The Von Bondies with the 22-20s.
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Not only is he former Sub-Pop recording artist or Off
Records creator or current GBV bass player but Chris
Slusarenko is also a video director. He recently
created this BRILLIANT video for Mascara Snakes and
you can check it out here;
http://www.offrecords.com/media.html (http://www.offrecords.com/media.html)
I don't think there has ever been a video for one of
Bob's projects taht have been nearly this good!
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All to be released on Matador Records on Tuesday,
November 4th, 2003:
a 5CD + DVD Box Set, along with a Best Of CD at
mid-price and a DVD,
together consisting of the definitive record of
Dayton's Guided By
Voices.
(Where not otherwise marked, the tracks were
originally released
either by the band on their own labels, or by Matador
Records.)
THE BOX SET (5 CDs plus 1 DVD):
OLE-550
"Hardcore UFOs: Revelations, Epiphanies and Fast Food
in the Western
Hemisphere" 5CD + DVD SLIPCASE BOX SET WITH BOOK (142
COMPLETE
TRACKS, 14 FRAGMENTARY TRACKS, 8 VIDEOS)
DISC ONE: "Human Amusements At Hourly Rates: The Best
of Guided By
Voices" CD
[ALSO AVAILABLE AS SEPARATE CD ENTITLED "THE BEST OF
GUIDED BY
VOICES: HUMAN AMUSEMENTS AT HOURLY RATES" WITH
DIFFERENT ARTWORK,
SEQUENCE AND SLIGHTLY DIFFERENT VERSIONS: SEE
"SEPARATE RELEASES"
SECTION AFTER BOX SET, BELOW]
1. Captain's Dead (courtesy of Scat Records)
2. Drinker's Peace (courtesy of Scat Records)
3. Exit Flagger (courtesy of Scat Records)
4. 14 Cheerleader Coldfront (courtesy of Scat Records)
5. Shocker In Gloomtown (courtesy of Scat Records)
6. Non-Absorbing (courtesy of Scat Records)
7. Tractor Rape Chain (courtesy of Scat Records)
8. Hot Freaks (courtesy of Scat Records)
9. Echos Myron (courtesy of Scat Records)
10. I Am A Scientist - SINGLE VERSION (courtesy of
Scat Records)
11. A Salty Salute
12. Watch Me Jumpstart
13. Game Of Pricks - ALBUM VERSION
14. Motor Away - ALBUM VERSION
15. Hit
16. My Valuable Hunting Knife - ALBUM VERSION
17. Cut-Out Witch
18. The Official Ironmen Rally Song
19. To Remake The Young Flyer
20. I Am A Tree
21. Bulldog Skin
22. Learning To Hunt
23. Teenage FBI - DEMO VERSION
24. Things I Will Keep (courtesy of TVT Records)
25. Surgical Focus (courtesy of TVT Records)
26. Chasing Heather Crazy (courtesy of TVT Records)
27. Twilight Campfighter (courtesy of TVT Records)
28. Glad Girls (courtesy of TVT Records)
29. Back To The Lake
30. Everywhere With Helicopter
31. My Kind Of Soldier
32. The Best Of Jill Hives
DISC TWO: "Demons and Painkillers - Matador B-Sides,
Out-of-Print
Singles and Compilation Tracks" CD
1. Motor Away
2. Color Of My Blade
3. My Valuable Hunting Knife
4. Game Of Pricks
5. Mice Feel Nice (In My Room)
6. Not Good For The Mechanism
7. Kiss Only The Important Ones
8. Dodging Invisible Rays
9. Deaf Ears
10. Why Did You Land?
11. June Salutes You!
12. Delayed Reaction Brats
13. He's The Uncle
14. The Key Losers
15. Postal Blowfish
16. Unleashed! The Large Hearted Boy
17. Some Drilling Implied
18. Systems Crash
19. Catfood On The Earwig
20. The Who Vs. Porky Pig
21. A Life In Finer Clothing
22. The Worryin' Song
23. Subtle Gear Shifting
24. Finks
25. The Finest Joke Is Upon Us
26. The Singing Razorblade
27. Now To War (Electric Version)
28. Mannequin's Complaint (Wax Dummy Meltdown)
29. Do They Teach You The Chase?
30. (I'll Name You) The Flame That Cries
31. The Ascended Master's Grogshop
32. My Thoughts Are A Gas
33. Running Off With The Fun City Girls
34. None Of Them Any Good
35. Choking Tara (Creamy Version)
DISC THREE: "Delicious Pie and Thank You For Calling -
Previously
Unreleased Songs and Recordings" CD
1. I
2. Back To Saturn X
3. H-O-M-E (Matador)
4. You're The Special
5. Perhaps We Were Swinging
6. Mother & Son
7. 7 Strokes To Heaven's Egde
8. Fire 'Em Up, Abner
9. Harboring Exiles
10. Still Worth Nothing
11. Never
12. Slave Your Beetle Brain
13. It Is Divine
14. They
15. I Invented The Moonwalk (And The Pencil Sharpener)
16. Fly Into Ashes
17. The Various Vaults Of Convenience
18. Thrashed Aircraft
19. Running Off With The Fun City Girls
20. Bulldog Skin (Mag Earwhig! Demo)
21. Portable Men's Society (Mag Earwhig! Demo)
22. Choking Tara (Mag Earwhig! Demo)
23. Man Called Aerodynamics - Concert For Todd Version
DISC FOUR: "Live at the Wheelchair Races - Unreleased
Live Recordings
1995-2002"
1. intro by Randy Campbell -- The Paradise, Boston,
MA, June 20, 1995
2. I Am Produced -- Bogart's, Cincinnati, OH, July 25,
1997
3. Why Did You Land? -- Fox Theatre, Denver, CO, April
10, 1995
4. Zap -- Cat's Cradle, Carrboro, NC, April 16, 2002
5. Little Lines -- Bogart's, Cincinnati, OH, July 25,
1997
6. 14 Cheerleader Coldfront -- The Paradise, Boston,
MA, June 20, 1995
7. Everywhere With Helicopter -- Cat's Cradle,
Carrboro, NC, April 16,
2002
8. Quicksilver -- Bogart's, Cincinnati, OH, July 25,
1997
9. James Riot -- Bernie's Bagel Shop, Columbus, OH,
March 28, 1998
10. Pretty Bombs -- Cat's Cradle, Carrboro, NC, April
16, 2002
11. Far Out Crops -- unknown
12. My Impression Now -- Phantasy Club, Cleveland, OH,
April 26. 1997
13. Look At Them -- The Metro, Chicago, IL, February
24, 1996
14. A Salty Salute -- unknown
15. Melted Pat -- The Metro, Chicago, IL, February 24,
1996
16. How Loft Am I? -- The Metro, Chicago, IL, July 11,
1998
17. King And Caroline/Motor Away -- First Avenue,
Minneapolis, MN,
February 22, 1996
18. Trap Soul Door -- unknown
19. Cheyenne -- Cat's Cradle, Carrboro, NC, April 16,
2002
20. Make Use -- The Metro, Chicago, IL, July 11, 1998
21. Burning Flag Birthday Suit -- The Metro, Chicago,
IL, February 24,
1996
22. Weed King -- The Metro, Chicago, IL, February 24,
1996
23. Town Of Mirrors -- Bimbo's, San Francisco, CA,
February 27, 1999
24. Over The Neptune/Mesh Gear Fox -- The Paradise,
Boston, MA, June
20, 1995
25. Dragon's Awake -- 40 Watt Club, Athens, GA,
January 22, 2000
(courtesy of TVT Records)
26. Shrine To The Dynamic Years -- Bernie's Bagel
Shop, Columbus, OH,
March 28, 1998
27. Game Of Pricks -- unknown
28. Tractor Rape Chain -- Melkweg, Amsterdam, Holland,
July 10, 1997
29. Key Losers -- Fox Theatre, Denver, CO, April 10,
1995
30. Now To War? -- Melkweg, Amsterdam, Holland, July
10, 1997
31. Johnny Appleseed -- Crocodile Club, Seattle, WA,
April 17, 1995
32. Drinkers Peace -- -- unknown
DISC FIVE "Forever Since Breakfast" CD (FIRST REISSUE
OF THE GBV
VINYL-ONLY DEBUT IN ANY FORMAT)
1. Land of Danger
2. Let's Ride
3. Like I Do
4. Sometimes I Cry
5. She Wants to Know
6. Fountain of Youth
7. The Other Place
DISC SIX: DVD: "Watch Me Jumpstart" + Extras (NTSC
ALL-REGION DVD)
[THIS IS AN EXPANDED VERSION OF THE OUT-OF-PRINT VHS
"WATCH ME
JUMPSTART", ORIGINALLY RELEASED BY MATADOR IN 1998.]
[THE DVD WILL ALSO BE RELEASED SEPARATELY IN TWO
DIFFERENT PACKAGES:
SEE "SEPARATE RELEASES BELOW.]
1. The Original "Watch Me Jumpstart" documentary by
Banks Tarver
The documentary features footage of fractions of the
following songs
(all from 1995/1996):
Club Molluska (1:31) (courtesy of Scat Records)
14 Cheerleader Coldfront (1:34) (courtesy of Scat
Records)
If We Wait (:59)
Gold Star for Robot Boy (1:00)
Systems Crash (1:45)
Don't Stop Now (:32, 1:37)
Blimps Go 90 (1:55)
Yours To Keep (:54)
Weed King (1:13)
Hot Freaks (1:27)
To Remake the Young Flyer (1:40)
Chicken Blows (:41)
A Salty Salute (1:25)
Goldheart Mountain Top Queen Directory (2:02)
2. The original live footage that followed "Watch Me
Jumpstart" on
the VHS (1994-1997):
Hot Freaks
Superwhore
Gold Heart Mountain Top Queen Directory
Shocker in Gloomtown
Postal Blowfish
Weed King
Exit Flagger
I Am A Scientist
3. "Beautiful Plastic" 8-minute film by Banks Tarver,
2003, not on VHS
4. Music Videos (these 5 also on the original VHS)
I Am A Scientist (courtesy of Scat Records)
Auditorium/Motor Away
My Valuable Hunting Knife
The Official Ironmen Rally Song
Bulldog Skin
(plus two added videos not on the original VHS):
Glad Girls (courtesy of TVT Records)
My Kind of Soldier
5. Three live songs filmed at Warsaw in June 2002 (not
on the original
VHS):
Echos Myron [5 angles choosable]
Tight Globes
Cut-Out Witch
6. One Easter Egg to be discovered
THE SEPARATE RELEASES:
OLE-565
"The Best of Guided By Voices: Human Amusements At
Hourly Rates" CD
MID-PRICE
[ALSO AVAILABLE IN BOX SET ENTITLED "HUMAN AMUSEMENTS
AT HOURLY
RATES: THE BEST OF GUIDED BY VOICES" WITH DIFFERENT
ARTWORK, SEQUENCE
AND SLIGHTLY DIFFERENT VERSIONS: SEE "BOX SET" DISC
ONE, ABOVE]
1. A Salty Salute
2. Things I Will Keep (courtesy of TVT Records)
3. Everywhere With Helicopter
4. I Am A Tree
5. My Kind Of Soldier
6. 14 Cheerleader Coldfront (courtesy of Scat Records)
7. Twilight Campfighter (courtesy of TVT Records)
8. Echos Myron (courtesy of Scat Records)
9. Learning To Hunt
10. Bulldog Skin
11. Captain's Dead (courtesy of Scat Records)
12. Tractor Rape Chain (courtesy of Scat Records)
13. Game Of Pricks - SINGLE VERSION
14. To Remake The Young Flyer
15. Hit
16. Glad Girls (courtesy of TVT Records)
17. Drinker's Peace (courtesy of Scat Records)
18. Surgical Focus (courtesy of TVT Records)
19. Cut-Out Witch
20. The Best Of Jill Hives
21. Hot Freaks (courtesy of Scat Records)
22. Shocker In Gloomtown (courtesy of Scat Records)
23. Chasing Heather Crazy (courtesy of TVT Records)
24. My Valuable Hunting Knife - ALBUM VERSION
25. The Official Ironmen Rally Song
26. Non-Absorbing (courtesy of Scat Records)
27. Motor Away - SINGLE VERSION
28. Teenage FBI - DEMO VERSION
29. Watch Me Jumpstart
30. Exit Flagger (courtesy of Scat Records)
31. Back To The Lake
32. I Am A Scientist - ALBUM VERSION (courtesy of Scat
Records)
OLE-595 [AMARAY PACKAGE: TRADITIONAL PLASTIC DVD CASE]
OLE-596 [JEWELCASE PACKAGE: CD-SIZED JEWELCASE STAMPED
WITH DVD LOGO]
"Watch Me Jumpstart" + Extras (NTSC all-region DVD)
[Track listing identical to version included in box as
Disc Six,
above.]
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Apparently Beatle Bob put in an appearance at the Old 97's set at the Austin City Limits Fest (this written by somebody on one of their message boards)
This is not a proper review but just some quick thoughts. Wish I could
remember the setlist but I was too busy singing/dancing. opened with the
other shoe, ended with doreen for 2 song encore. (the first was a solo
question from Rhett) Beattle Bob joined in for the last several songs,
weather was perfect, crowd was huge. setlist was all the "hits" I guess you
could say. Just an awesome 60 mins. I think the band won't ever forget this
one. they seemed to be having a ball.
Originally posted by Rhett Miller:
http://www.subgenius.com/bigfist/FIST2000-3/tips/X0005_Beatle_Bob_2000.html (http://www.subgenius.com/bigfist/FIST2000-3/tips/X0005_Beatle_Bob_2000.html)
So I heard Beattle Bob stars in the new GBV video (see link above). Can anybody confirm this?
I remember briefly chatting with him at a festival in Alabama about 7 years ago. Strange guy. Anybody else seen/met him?
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Pollard said in an interview in Amsterdam that he wrote GBV's current single for the Strokes, but decided to keep it, interesting.
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There better be some good news announced for November 9th
Thu-Nov-06 Atlanta, GA Variety Playhouse
Fri-Nov-07 Asheville, NC Orange Peel
Sat-Nov-08 Carrboro, NC Cats Cradle
Mon-Nov-10 Baltimore, MD Recher Theatre
Wed-Nov-12 Brooklyn, NY Warsaw
Fri-Nov-14 Toronto, ON Opera House
Sat-Nov-15 Detroit, MI Magic Stick
Sun-Nov-16 Cleveland, OH Grog Shop
Tue-Nov-18 Minneapolis, MN First Ave
Wed-Nov-19 Madison, WI The Annex
Sat-Nov-22 Chicago, IL The Abbey Pub
Sun-Nov-23 Chicago, IL The Abbey Pub
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First post here...I moved into the area about a month and a half ago. Went to the University of Dayton, with Brian Pollard, Bob's son. Good stuff, and they played constantly in the area. Nothing like cheap beer with the kids of stars huh?
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You ain't just whistling Dixie, jadetree (you know, that's now a rock n' roll song, not country)
;)
Originally posted by jadetree:
There better be some good news announced for November 9th
Thu-Nov-06 Atlanta, GA Variety Playhouse
Fri-Nov-07 Asheville, NC Orange Peel
Sat-Nov-08 Carrboro, NC Cats Cradle
Mon-Nov-10 Baltimore, MD Recher Theatre
Wed-Nov-12 Brooklyn, NY Warsaw
Fri-Nov-14 Toronto, ON Opera House
Sat-Nov-15 Detroit, MI Magic Stick
Sun-Nov-16 Cleveland, OH Grog Shop
Tue-Nov-18 Minneapolis, MN First Ave
Wed-Nov-19 Madison, WI The Annex
Sat-Nov-22 Chicago, IL The Abbey Pub
Sun-Nov-23 Chicago, IL The Abbey Pub
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Originally posted by bags:
You ain't just whistling Dixie, jadetree (you know, that's now a rock n' roll song, not country)
;)
All indications are that there will NOT be a show in DC. Looks like will have to go to Recher.
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Originally posted by Jaguär:
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well put, jag.
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Rumor which was not denied: Tobin Sprout will be playing some shows with the band leading up to the box set release.
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no dc? they'll come back through the east this year, i bet. not exactly hitting everywhere on the east coast like they usually do.
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Originally posted by god's shoeshine:
no dc? they'll come back through the east this year, i bet. not exactly hitting everywhere on the east coast like they usually do.
They won't be back til next year sometime.
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which is only a month an a half after the last of those dates.
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Originally posted by god's shoeshine:
which is only a month an a half after the last of those dates.
Really?
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fyi
Shows Announced this week at Recher Theatre:
M 11/10 Guided By Voices
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Hmm, I might finally go see them this time.
Originally posted by kosmo vinyl:
fyi
Shows Announced this week at Recher Theatre:
M 11/10 Guided By Voices
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oh geez, Monday shows are almost impossible for me. I'd rather Sunday! If there's a clamor amongst my friends, I might go.
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Originally posted by kosmo vinyl:
fyi
Shows Announced this week at Recher Theatre:
M 11/10 Guided By Voices
They seem to really like playing the Recher.I guess it's too soon after playing DC this summer to hit DC again.i sure hope the Tobin rumor is true.I'd take a day off work and go if that was the case.
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man, the one year it would be cool to have veteran's day off, and its one of the few that i have to work. saw them twice this year already, so i'll just bank on them coming back through early next year.
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Originally posted by god's shoeshine:
i'll just bank on them coming back through early next year.
That's my plan. Whaddya gonna do...
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Originally posted by jadetree:
Rumor which was not denied: Tobin Sprout will be playing some shows with the band leading up to the box set release.
So its not official but it looks like Toby might open
a couple of shows in November (looking at the GBV Tour
Page it might be easy to figure which ones). That
would be the extent of things. He's not playing WITH
GBV it would be purely opening for. That's all I know
and that's all I can say for now.
Rich
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Originally posted by kosmo vinyl:
fyi
Shows Announced this week at Recher Theatre:
M 11/10 Guided By Voices
Coolness! I live less than a mile from Recher Theatre. I'll be walking over there on 11/10 and checking them out! :D
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Originally posted by PR_GMR:
Originally posted by kosmo vinyl:
fyi
Shows Announced this week at Recher Theatre:
M 11/10 Guided By Voices
Coolness! I live less than a mile from Recher Theatre. I'll be walking over there on 11/10 and checking them out! :D [/b]
Hey, we only live a few miles apart. ;)
I won't be attending this show though. Not a fan of the band.
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Hey, we only live a few miles apart.
I won't be attending this show though. Not a fan of the band.
What a small world, Jaguar! A fellow music/9:30 club fan in the nearby area. Good to know. I remember reading your posts during Hurricane Isabel about whether going to the club to catch BRMC. You said you were in Baltimore and were ambivalent about going due to the weather. I too wanted to go to that show.. and couldn't go due to the bummer weather. :cool:
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Originally posted by PR_GMR:
Hey, we only live a few miles apart.
I won't be attending this show though. Not a fan of the band.
What a small world, Jaguar! A fellow music/9:30 club fan in the nearby area. Good to know. I remember reading your posts during Hurricane Isabel about whether going to the club to catch BRMC. You said you were in Baltimore and were ambivalent about going due to the weather. I too wanted to go to that show.. and couldn't go due to the bummer weather. :cool: [/b]
God, yes! I'm still crying over that one. Well, at least I didn't have any real problems personally with the storm. One of the lucky ones! I'm sure we made the right call that night. Sometimes it sucks playing it smart.