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=> GENERAL DISCUSSION => Topic started by: HoyaSaxa03 on September 26, 2005, 06:21:00 pm
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any thoughts on this weeks releases?
Children Of Nuggets: Original Artyfacts from the Second Psychedelic Era - 1976-1995
-- this looks GREAT
Ryan Adams: Jacksonville City Nights
Big Star: In Space
Blackalicious: The Craft
Her Space Holiday: The Past Presents the Future
Ric Ocasek: Nexterday
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Originally posted by HoyaParanoia:
Ryan Adams: Jacksonville City Nights
Awesome. Great cover art, too.
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Detroit Cobras
High Strung
Grandaddy (EP)
Neil Young
And the CD on everyone's holiday wish list...
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I'll pass on all of those.
How about the new High Strung. Any good? Didn't one of the singers leave the band?
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Just Say Sire: The Sire Records Story [BOX SET]
Track Listings
Disc: 1
1. Everybody - Madonna
2. Mirror In The Bathroom - English Beat
3. Kiss Me - Tin Tin
4. Oh Lâ??Amour - Erasure
5. Tainted Love - Soft Cell
6. Situation (Remix) - Yaz
7. People Are People - Depeche Mode
8. Living On The Ceiling - Blancmange
9. That Summer Feeling - Jonathan Richman
10. Young At Heart - The Bluebells
11. One Step Beyond - Madness
12. Genius Of Love - Tom Tom Club
13. Im Ninâ??alu - Ofra Haza
14. Endicott - Kid Creole & The Coconuts
15. Love And Mercy - Brian Wilson
16. All The Way - Little Jimmy Scott
17. Crazy - Seal
18. Fire Woman - The Cult
19. Constant Craving - k. d. lang
Disc: 2
1. Teenage Kicks - The Undertones
2. This Charming Man - The Smiths
3. I Melt With You - Modern English
4. Moskow Diskow - Telex
5. (Iâ??m) Stranded - The Saints
6. Ă?a Plane Pour Moi - Plastic Bertrand
7. Top Of The Pops - The Rezillos
8. Nowhere Girl - B-Movie
9. Part Of The Process - Morcheeba
10. Come Together (7" Version) - Primal Scream
11. Beat Dis - Bomb The Bass
12. The Love Cats - The Cure
13. The Killing Moon - Echo & The Bunnymen
14. Warm Leatherette - The Normal
15. Everyday Is Like Sunday - Morrissey
16. Never Never - The Assembly
17. Oblivious - Aztec Camera
18. Inside Out - The Mighty Lemon Drops
19. Soon - My Bloody Valentine
20. Leave Them All Behind - Ride
Disc: 3
1. Alex Chilton - The Replacements
2. Come On Letâ??s Go - The Paley Brothers And Ramones
3. Aloha Steve & Danno/Theme From Hawaii Five-O - Radio Birdman
4. The Wagon - Dinosaur Jr.
5. Sonic Reducer - Dead Boys
6. White Horse - Laid Back
7. Blank Generation - Richard Hell & The Voidoids
8. I Want That Man - Deborah Harry
9. Iâ??ll Be Your Everything - Tommy Page
10. Summer Teeth - Wilco
11. World Class Fad - Paul Westerberg
12. Back On The Chain Gang - The Pretenders
13. Give Back The Key To My Heart - Uncle Tupelo
14. Shake Some Action - The Flaminâ?? Groovies
15. Counting Backwards - Throwing Muses
16. Boy - Book Of Love
17. Romeo Had Juliette - Lou Reed
18. O. G. Original Gangster - Ice-T
19. Jesus Built My Hotrod - Ministry
20. Burning Down The House - Talking Heads
Disc: 4
1. Pop Muzik - M
2. Rock â??Nâ?? Roll High School - Ramones
3. Letâ??s Go To Bed - The Cure
4. A Little Respect - Erasure
5. Brass In Pocket - The Pretenders
6. The Cutter - Echo & The Bunnymen
7. Bastards Of Young - The Replacements
8. She Sells Sanctuary - The Cult
9. Once In A Lifetime - Talking Heads
10. Like A Prayer - Madonna
11. Enjoy The Silence - Depeche Mode
12. Feed The Tree - Belly
13. Drifting, Falling - The Ocean Blue
14. Reach - Martini Ranch
15. Groovy Train - The Farm
16. Things Can Only Get Better - D:Ream
17. New York City Boy - Pet Shop Boys
18. In The Meantime - Spacehog
19. One Week - Barenaked Ladies
20. Come To Daddy - Aphex Twin
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Yeah, the Ryan Adams is a must, I think. Though I'm a huge Ryan Adams fan. However, I think that the Cardinals are the best thing to happen to his music in years.
I also liked the last Her Space Holiday record, but he's kind of hit or miss.
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Originally posted by ggwâ?˘:
Just Say Sire: The Sire Records Story [BOX SET]
Great compilation, though I think I already own just about all the stuff I like.
I'm anxious to hear about the Big Star album. I'm not picking it up immediately, but I'll bet I end up with it soon.
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Elbow - Leaders of the Free World
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The next flavor of the month:
Wolf Parade - Apologies to the Queen Mary
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Insound (http://www.insound.com/) e-mailed me a coupon for 10% off the new Wolf Parade album:
FOR 10% OFF THE ALBUM, USE COUPON CODE: queenmary10
FOR ORDERS $50 OR MORE, SAVE 15% WITH COUPON CODE: wolfqueen15
This coupon is good until October 3rd and is to be used during checkout at INSOUND.
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Originally posted by Xavier Bush, Power Forward:
I'll pass on all of those.
How about the new High Strung. Any good? Didn't one of the singers leave the band?
yeah the album is released tomorrow wahoo, i got an early version of it but i think there is only 4 tracks from it that are on the new album......mark (the less nasal singer) left so it had to be reworked.
i did really like the tracks that i believe they've kept on moxie bravo, but we shall have to see as it was, it wasn't as good as good as these are good times.......
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The new Grandaddy has some pretty cool songs on it. "Goodbye?" is one that I really enjoy, I've listened to the whole thing a few times now. A must for anyone who digs them. They're not covering any new territory, but it's a decent record.
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Robertson charts the Band's musical journey
By Melinda Newman Fri Sep 23, 6:51 PM ET
LOS ANGELES (Billboard) - If Robbie Robertson had his way, every owner of "Across the Great Divide," a three-CD retrospective of the Band issued in 1994, would toss that collection in the garbage and replace it with "The Band: A Musical History."
The new set, which comprises five CDs and one DVD and includes more than 100 tracks, comes out September 27 on Capitol/EMI. Robertson spent years curating the collection.
"That (1994) set was completely inaccurate. I think they were just guessing," the Band's guitarist says. "This one is absolutely true. Forget the 1994 one ever was."
The new collection starts with a 1963 recording of "Who Do You Love" by Ronnie Hawkins & the Hawks (the Band's earliest incarnation) and ends, as it must, with tracks from "The Last Waltz," the Band's star-studded farewell performance, captured on film by Martin Scorsese.
While the highlights are too numerous to mention, many fans will consider the previously unreleased live material -- including sets with Bob Dylan (whom the Band backed from September 1965 until May 1966) -- the set's standout.
For Robertson, who had not listened to much of this material in years, if ever, one of the most pleasant surprises was "the musicality of the journey." But, as he stresses, he and his Band mates were hardly a "group who got guitars for Christmas and decided we wanted to get a record deal."
DIGGING ROOTS
Indeed, by the time "Music From Big Pink," the Band's legendary 1968 album came out, the group had been together for years and had absorbed musical influences from across America's vast landscape.
"When that album came out, people acted like, 'Where in the world did this come from?' like it was so unusual," Robertson recalls. "And we were like, 'These are all the musics that we know. There are the flavors we know. It was that simple. We're bringing them with us when we come."'
While there was joy in putting together the boxed set, Robertson says there was also great sadness for people lost along the way. "The painful part of all this was losing Rick Danko and Richard Manuel. The sounds of Richard's voice or Rick's voice, it would just tear my heart out." Danko died in 1999 and Manuel in 1986.
The set's release puts an end to the Band ... for now. "I keep saying, 'Now I'm done with the Band,"' Robertson says. "I'm just not keen to be going back up into the attic and going into the trunks. I'm more interested in tomorrow."
Still, he admits he may go back to the well one more time. "I just have to write a book on it, and I'll be all caught up. As soon as I get some time, I'm going out to that little cabin in the woods (and write). I like telling stories, as one might figure."
But there has never been a moment when Robertson considered reuniting with the Band's surviving members. "It never crossed my mind. Things happen a certain way. It's in some higher power's hands. You can't do something if it won't bend that way."
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Blackalicious: The Craft!!!
nice stuff
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also new
Supergrass - Road to Rouen
Morcheeba - The Antidote (although they have a new singer and it's apparently less trip-hop. the song i heard was more 60s pop sounding)
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Originally posted by Bags:
I'm anxious to hear about the Big Star album. I'm not picking it up immediately, but I'll bet I end up with it soon.
Pitchfork reviewed it (http://www.pitchforkmedia.com/record-reviews/b/big-star/in-space.shtml) today. 5.3
They also give the Neutral Milk Hotel re-issue a 10.0.
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Pitchfork's review of Neutral Milk Hotel annoyed me. From what I have heard of that record I like it, but the guy that wrote it had the "hip" tone that curses some of their writers.
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Originally posted by bearman:
Pitchfork's review of Neutral Milk Hotel annoyed me.
I hate the revisionist history Pitchfork takes with everything. They gave the record a 8.5 the first time, which is a good rating, but not a 10. And I think it came in like #40 on their first best records of the 90's list.
Then, they decide after the record becomes venerated, "wait! maybe that wasn't good enough! let's redo everything" and re-reviews it for no real reason and they redo their top of the 90's list as well. All because the public perception changed.
Same thing with hiphop/rap. "Oh, rap is the new indie cred? Let's redo out top 90's list and go from 2 hiphop albums to 45! We so clever!!"
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At least one board member will be interested in this reissue or a reissue... also available via eMusic...
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complaining about pitchfork ratings is so 2002
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New Calla CD also out this week. Anyone heard it yet?
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Originally posted by HoyaParanoia:
Children Of Nuggets: Original Artyfacts from the Second Psychedelic Era - 1976-1995
<img src="http://images.amazon.com/images/P/B000B5IOWK.01._SCLZZZZZZZ_.jpg" alt=" - " />
so no thoughts about this box set (http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/detail/-/B000B5IOWK/qid=1127844793/sr=8-1/ref=pd_bbs_1/102-2659709-6130560?v=glance&s=music&n=507846)?
the reviews have me salivating, but i'm a sucker for box sets and descriptive packaging ... here's the blurb from amazon:
"It would take thousands of dollars (or as many hours in download time) to hoard the most coveted songs from the eighties' top secret power pop bands, garage combos and post-new wave throngs into one collection. Or you can let Rhino Records, which masterfully conspired with writer/musician Lenny Kaye late last century to inflate and repackage Kaye's original Nuggets compilation, do the legwork. These four discs, though chaotically sequenced, scour all sides of the ponds to capture the vitality and innovation of mostly 1980-'85, introducing (or reintroducing) to-be-influential bands like San Francisco's Flamin' Groovies, New York's Raybeats, England's Soft Boys, Australia's the Church and Sweden's Nomads. Where else can you find XTC spin-off Dukes of Stratosphear, the La's "There She Goes" and the Bangles a half-decade prior to their manic Monday, along with the Cramps, the Plimsouls, the db's and the Bevis Frond in a single shebangâ??and with Rhino's ample, informative, transcendent liner notes, to boot? --Scott Holter"
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Originally posted by HoyaParanoia:
Children Of Nuggets: Original Artyfacts from the Second Psychedelic Era - 1976-1995
Wow -- that looks amazing, and unlike the Sire box set, I *don't* have most of those songs (though I played most on my college radio show).
I didn't look at the track list when you posted it, but damn, that's quite a collection (though I don't think any compilation needs The La's "There She Goes" -- that song is so way overplayed and there are other worthy songs on their album).
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Children Of Nuggets: Original Artyfacts from the Second Psychedelic Era - 1976-1995
When I saw the title I kinda blew over it but now having clicked on the link it does look really good. Be sure to share it with us once you get it!! :)
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Originally posted by brennser:
Children Of Nuggets: Original Artyfacts from the Second Psychedelic Era - 1976-1995
When I saw the title I kinda blew over it but now having clicked on the link it does look really good. Be sure to share it with us once you get it!! :) [/b]
I did the same thing...I don't really think of a lot of those bands as psychedelic, but why not. I'll certainly share my opinions when I get it. :D
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the new Nuggets boxset is mighty fine... however this will be my next boxset purchase, especially with the influence the girl groups had on the Ramones and New York Dolls
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One Kiss Can Lead To Another: Girl Group Sounds Lost & Found
Rhino is pleased to present the first-ever boxed set to celebrate the girl groups of the 1960s. From soul and garage to Brill Building pop and countrypolitan, every possible girl group style is represented on these four discs, which gather 120 remastered tracks from 107 artistsâ??The Supremes, The Ronettes, Dusty Springfield, Carole King, Petula Clark, plus a slew of artists less known but every bit as vital. Landmark packaging replicates a mod-style hat box and includes a diary-style booklet with essays, rare photos, track notes, and artist quotes.
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Metric, "Live it Out" comes out today...
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How about Sheryl Crow's new one? Sort of like Kathleen Edwards, but less bitchy?
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you can listen to the new franz ferdinand here (http://www.mtv.com/bands/az/franz_ferdinand/973649/album.jhtml)
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Originally posted by callat703:
Though I'm a huge Ryan Adams fan.
Get the dvd if you can...great little film.
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http://www.pitchforkmedia.com/record-reviews/comp/rhino/children-of-nuggets.shtml (http://www.pitchforkmedia.com/record-reviews/comp/rhino/children-of-nuggets.shtml)
Originally posted by HoyaParanoia:
Originally posted by HoyaParanoia:
Children Of Nuggets: Original Artyfacts from the Second Psychedelic Era - 1976-1995
<img src="http://images.amazon.com/images/P/B000B5IOWK.01._SCLZZZZZZZ_.jpg" alt=" - " />
so no thoughts about this box set (http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/detail/-/B000B5IOWK/qid=1127844793/sr=8-1/ref=pd_bbs_1/102-2659709-6130560?v=glance&s=music&n=507846)?
the reviews have me salivating, but i'm a sucker for box sets and descriptive packaging ... here's the blurb from amazon:
"It would take thousands of dollars (or as many hours in download time) to hoard the most coveted songs from the eighties' top secret power pop bands, garage combos and post-new wave throngs into one collection. Or you can let Rhino Records, which masterfully conspired with writer/musician Lenny Kaye late last century to inflate and repackage Kaye's original Nuggets compilation, do the legwork. These four discs, though chaotically sequenced, scour all sides of the ponds to capture the vitality and innovation of mostly 1980-'85, introducing (or reintroducing) to-be-influential bands like San Francisco's Flamin' Groovies, New York's Raybeats, England's Soft Boys, Australia's the Church and Sweden's Nomads. Where else can you find XTC spin-off Dukes of Stratosphear, the La's "There She Goes" and the Bangles a half-decade prior to their manic Monday, along with the Cramps, the Plimsouls, the db's and the Bevis Frond in a single shebangâ??and with Rhino's ample, informative, transcendent liner notes, to boot? --Scott Holter" [/b]
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Whew, a 45 on metacritic. Not good.
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music box Pop, jazz, and classical.
Slate
Fading Star
Big Star returns to its own party, 30 years too late.
By Douglas Wolk
Posted Wednesday, Sept. 28, 2005, at 7:52 AM PT
"You get what you deserve," Big Star's Alex Chilton once sang, and if he still believes that, he must think his admirers don't deserve much. In Space, their fourth studio albumâ??30 years after the thirdâ??is a flimsy, slapdash piece of work, a cynical imitation of their own style. It's a throwaway from a band to whom craft was once everything, with just enough flashes of their old grace and dark beauty that it hurts even more to hear.
The original incarnation of Big Star produced three extraordinary albums between 1972 and 1975; the first two are the pillars of American power pop, and the third is a shadowy, chaotic, sui generis marvel. At first, the band was a collaboration between Chilton (who'd previously been the teenage lead singer of the Box Tops), his fellow singer-guitarist Chris Bell, bassist Andy Hummel, and drummer Jody Stephens. Big Star wasn't meant to be an ironic band name, and their debut #1 Record wasn't meant to be an ironic title: It was a leap for the big time, a sculpted guitar-pop record. It got great reviews, but, as Rob Jovanovic details in his new book Big Star: The Short Life, Painful Death, and Unexpected Resurrection of the Kings of Power Pop, the album sold fewer than 4,000 copies due to distribution problems.
Radio City was their even better follow-upâ??another hopeful title, another set of hopes dashed in the marketplace. Like #1 Record, its songs evoke a sweet kind of ache, a moment of blissful romantic torment faced down with a strong drink and a 12-string guitar. By the time of Big Star's final, blurry, drug-and-alcohol-fueled sessions, the band was reduced to Chilton, Stephens, and whoever else happened to be around.
Their third album was abandoned rather than completed; it's variously known as Third, Sister Lovers, and Beale St. Green, and it's been released with at least four different track listings. It's the sound of a breakdown in the studioâ??the mix is a thicket of out-of-control instruments (even the string section is on a bender), the arrangements keep threatening to pass out, and Chilton sings like he's barely hanging on. What keeps it from crashing are the songs; the words are mostly about disconnection and dissolution, but there's a sense of hope in "Take Care" and "Thank You Friends" for which Chilton obviously fought hard.
After the third album, Chilton driftedâ??making occasional tossed-off records (some of them pretty good, especially 1987's High Priest), playing inconsistent shows, and spending a few years as a dishwasher in New Orleans. In the meantime, Big Star finally caught on. Their records were reissued and became coffeehouse standards; R.E.M. cited them as heroes; their songs were covered by the Bangles, Jeff Buckley, This Mortal Coil, Elliott Smith, the Replacements, Cheap Trick (whose version of "In the Street" became the theme song of That '70s Show), and dozens of other bands. A new wave of power-pop bands modeled their sound more or less explicitly on Big Star's: Teenage Fanclub, the Posies, Gigolo Aunts.
Chilton surprised everyone by reuniting Big Star for a 1993 concert. The lineup for that show was Chilton, Jody Stephens, and two of their disciples from the Posies, Ken Stringfellow and Jon Auer. It was supposed to be a one-off appearance, but they've played around 40 more shows since then. Andy Hummel hasn't been involved, although he notes in this interview that he'd be into playing with Big Star again if, "Everyone was a little excited about it, and was willing to work real hard at home, and we could get together to practice once a month or so." As it turns out, that's exactly the opposite of the way In Space was made.
Reportedly, one of the conditions that the band set for recording a new album was that they had to be able to write it in the studio. There are pop bands that specialize in spontaneous songwriting and first-take recordings, but Big Star was never really one of themâ??even their third album was thoroughly demoed in advance. Composing and recording In Space on the spot meant that they didn't really have to put much effort or forethought into it.
About half of In Space sounds like Big Star, or rather like a decent imitation of the first two Big Star albums: the radiant descending harmonies, the ringing chords, Stephens' somersaulting drum flourishes. (Nothing here tries to fake the unsettling arrangements or despairing undertow of the third album.) The opening "Dony" could've passed for decent filler on #1 Record, at least until Chilton makes way for a cheese-ball sax solo. Most of the evocations of Big Star's early years are actually sung by Chilton's band matesâ??"February's Quiet" with Stephens taking the lead, is the most convincing approximation of the old days.
The parts of In Space that don't retread familiar territory, though, are a mess, and mostly Chilton's mess. They amount to a bunch of gestures that say, "You want a nostalgia act? Here's your damn nostalgia act." There's a cover of the Olympics' 1966 R&B obscurity "Mine Exclusively" (which Chilton also recorded with Teenage Fanclub more than a decade ago), a heartless disco pastiche called "Love Revolution," an autopilot 12-bar surf-blues with the winking title "A Whole New Thing," and a ridiculous, shaky baroque instrumental, "Aria Largo." The album culminates, or rather collapses, with a half-assed studio jam, "Makeover." There's no sense of invention or emotional depth here, nothing that moves the Big Star franchise past picked-over territory.
In Jovanovic's biography of Big Star, Stringfellow comments that he thinks Chilton has "made a careful study in being neutral, a philosophy he's adapted [sic] to save his life." Certainly, it seems like Chilton's made it a point over the last few decades never to invest too much of himself into his work, and if "neutrality" has saved his life, it's hard to begrudge him. But when he's returning to the name he once used for some of America's richest, most emotionally charged pop, that aggressive indifference translates into contempt for his audience, and for his own powers as a songwriter.
Douglas Wolk is the author of Live at the Apollo.
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yeah, Revolution already has a bunch of suspiciously new looking "used" copies of the new Big STar for 9.99 a pop