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=> GENERAL DISCUSSION => Topic started by: walkonby on October 03, 2006, 02:34:00 pm
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the last two school shootings were from adult males who were obsessed with molesting young girls, and targeted the schools because they wanted to have some of that young female booty.
thank god and baby jesus that gay people can't adopt or get married. kill all gay people.
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what the HELL does that have to do with people who are gay?
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Originally posted by walkonby:
the last two school shootings were from adult males who were obsessed with molesting young girls, and targeted the schools because they wanted to have some of that young female booty.
thank god and baby jesus that gay people can't adopt or get married. kill all gay people.
Are you refering to that Dead Milkman (http://news.google.com/news?hl=en&q=dead%20milkman&sa=N&tab=wn) from Pennsylvania?
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Originally posted by you be betty:
what the HELL does that have to do with people who are gay?
I believe this was meant to be sarcasm, illustrating how ridiculous it is to believe that homosexuality is the problem with American sexual culture.
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good. cause i'm a bit on edge today...
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Originally posted by you be betty:
good. cause ?
Of course, it's a good cause.
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Originally posted by callat703:
Originally posted by you be betty:
what the HELL does that have to do with people who are gay?
I believe this was meant to be sarcasm, illustrating how ridiculous it is to believe that homosexuality is the problem with American sexual culture. [/b]
IOIYAR... (http://www.dailykos.com/)
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what the fuck is the matter with these fucking asshole losers going around and shooting up schools and the people in them? does this ever happen in other western countries?
last i checked, the amish were pretty nice and humble people. they really don't deserve this.
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Originally posted by beetsnotbeats:
Originally posted by callat703:
Originally posted by you be betty:
what the HELL does that have to do with people who are gay?
I believe this was meant to be sarcasm, illustrating how ridiculous it is to believe that homosexuality is the problem with American sexual culture. [/b]
IOIYAR... (http://www.dailykos.com/) [/b]
I'm not claiming that homosexual culture doesn't have problems of its own. But I think its more than a bit important to recognize that there are comparable problems on both sides of the sexuality spectrum - one side is no worse or better than the other.
What does your IOIYAR acronym mean?
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No one deserves this, I'm just sick of some of the media coverage. They treat the Amish as if they are ignorant of the outside world rather than people who just choose to separate themselves from it. I actually heard a reporter comment that they probably didn't know what a helicopter was.
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Why isn't this stirring up a gun control debate in the media? I'd like to hear what the NRA spokesjerks have to say about these incidents
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Well they're too busy shooting endangered species and all them homosexuals.
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Originally posted by Mixed Veg:
Why isn't this stirring up a gun control debate in the media? I'd like to hear what the NRA spokesjerks have to say about these incidents
Gov. Ed Rendell actually addressed this. He said that while gun control is important, no measures could have prevented this guy from getting the guns he used. He had no criminal history, and no documented history of mental illness. The handgun he used was purchased legally.
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unfortunately rendell is right. it's all part and parcel of living in the most violent "advanced" (see western, industrialized) country on the planet. the whole US population should really feel shame today. they don't.
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Originally posted by yinzer:
unfortunately rendell is right. it's all part and parcel of living in the most violent "advanced" (see western, industrialized) country on the planet. the whole US population should really feel shame today. they don't.
Yinzer, i'm guessing you're a fellow pennsylvanian. I grew up not far from here, and this whole thing is really sad.
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Originally posted by Surly Bonds:
Originally posted by walkonby:
the last two school shootings were from adult males who were obsessed with molesting young girls, and targeted the schools because they wanted to have some of that young female booty.
thank god and baby jesus that gay people can't adopt or get married. kill all gay people.
Are you refering to that Dead Milkman (http://news.google.com/news?hl=en&q=dead%20milkman&sa=N&tab=wn) from Pennsylvania? [/b]
isn't it weird that the dead milkmen were from penn., and that the one who died (dave) was probably gay. maybe that was the real reason the guy shot up the amish school???
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Originally posted by walkonby:
Originally posted by Surly Bonds:
Originally posted by walkonby:
the last two school shootings were from adult males who were obsessed with molesting young girls, and targeted the schools because they wanted to have some of that young female booty.
thank god and baby jesus that gay people can't adopt or get married. kill all gay people.
Are you refering to that Dead Milkman (http://news.google.com/news?hl=en&q=dead%20milkman&sa=N&tab=wn) from Pennsylvania? [/b]
isn't it weird that the dead milkmen were from penn., and that the one who died (dave) was probably gay. maybe that was the real reason the guy shot up the amish school??? [/b]
"violence rules, guns are cool . . . and we've got guns in our school."
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Originally posted by yinzer:
does this ever happen in other western countries?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Erfurt_massacre (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Erfurt_massacre)
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Osaka_school_massacre (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Osaka_school_massacre)
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dunblane_massacre (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dunblane_massacre)
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cologne_School_Massacre (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cologne_School_Massacre)
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/%C3%89cole_Polytechnique_Massacre (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/%C3%89cole_Polytechnique_Massacre)
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Concordia_University_massacre (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Concordia_University_massacre)
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dawson_College_shooting (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dawson_College_shooting)
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"Encyclopedia ggw" does it again.
He should really change his name to "Encyclopedia ggw", BTW.
I'd buy that for a dollar!
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But the US has had three deadly school shootings in a week.
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and this all happens right when the same makers of the video game "grand theft auto" releases a game called "bully", where you go around and hassle other kids, teachers, ect...
i can smell the lawsuits from here.
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The handgun he used was purchased legally.
That's the problem: we don't have real gun control. Real gun control would mean you couldn't buy anything other than a plain fire-once-and-then-have-to-reload hunting rifle, with no scope on it. Anything else should only be sold to law enforcement.
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Originally posted by Mixed Veg:
That's the problem: we don't have real gun control. Real gun control would mean you couldn't buy anything other than a plain fire-once-and-then-have-to-reload hunting rifle, with no scope on it. Anything else should only be sold to law enforcement.
you commie - that would be so un-american.
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Originally posted by Mixed Veg:
The handgun he used was purchased legally.
That's the problem: we don't have real gun control. Real gun control would mean you couldn't buy anything other than a plain fire-once-and-then-have-to-reload hunting rifle, with no scope on it. Anything else should only be sold to law enforcement. [/b]
What would be next, bow and arrows, nail guns,stun guns,twine? Guns don't kill people, people kill people.Do you really think criminals would abide by or even care about gun control legislation? It's way too late for that. Face it, some humans are just bad people.
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The only purpose of a handgun is to kill another human being.
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Silly broken message board....
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Originally posted by callat703:
Originally posted by beetsnotbeats:
Originally posted by callat703:
Originally posted by you be betty:
what the HELL does that have to do with people who are gay?
I believe this was meant to be sarcasm, illustrating how ridiculous it is to believe that homosexuality is the problem with American sexual culture. [/b]
IOIYAR... (http://www.dailykos.com/) [/b]
I'm not claiming that homosexual culture doesn't have problems of its own. But I think its more than a bit important to recognize that there are comparable problems on both sides of the sexuality spectrum - one side is no worse or better than the other.
What does your IOIYAR acronym mean? [/b]
"It's okay if you're a republican." I first encountered the saying at Daily Kos (http://www.dailykos.com/) (which is why I linked it). Daily Kos has been all over the Foley Follies like no one else. Here's the latest. (http://www.dailykos.com/storyonly/2006/10/3/163254/398)
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Originally posted by vansmack:
The only purpose of a handgun is to kill another human being.
Point taken. However, the chances of taking ALL handguns out of circulation at this point in time just ain't gonna happen.Guess which segment of society would then have the majority of them? Not a pretty picture from this view. Sounds great in theory though.
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[/QUOTE]What would be next, bow and arrows, nail guns,stun guns,twine? Guns don't kill people, people kill people.Do you really think criminals would abide by or even care about gun control legislation? It's way too late for that. Face it, some humans are just bad people. [/QB][/QUOTE]
second that, this guy was intent on killing himself and taking others with him--and reports are that he had nails, a knife, a stun gun, as well as things to bind the kids, what are you going to do, put restrictions on all of these things?
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home school everyone. that way, we can leave it up to the the parents to molest and kill all the children.
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Originally posted by walkonby:
home school everyone. that way, we can leave it up to the the parents to molest and kill all the children.
He still would've got to them if he wanted.The location would just be different.The mall, or in this case maybe a barn razing or some wild Rumspringa event. You are on to something though, bad parenting is a big reason some end up killers.That,along with untreated mental illness and greed of course, are probably a huge percentage of why these things happen.
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Originally posted by SPARX:
Do you really think criminals would abide by or even care about gun control legislation?
No, that would negate the definition of 'criminal'. I'm talking about getting rid of the supply so they have no choice
However, the chances of taking ALL handguns out of circulation at this point in time just ain't gonna happen.
It'd be a slow but sure process. Every arrest of a criminal with a gun would be another one out of circulation. That makes the black market value of the remaining ones soar and the criminals start killing each other to get them- a nice side effect. You also do buybacks. You monitor the production/distribution chain to make sure new ones aren't getting sold
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Originally posted by SPARX:
Originally posted by walkonby:
home school everyone. that way, we can leave it up to the the parents to molest and kill all the children.
He still would've got to them if he wanted.The location would just be different.The mall, or in this case maybe a barn razing or some wild Rumspringa event. You are on to something though, bad parenting is a big reason some end up killers.That,along with untreated mental illness and greed of course, are probably a huge percentage of why these things happen. [/b]
that, and cnn coverage. nothing fuels a ego like televised exclusives.
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Originally posted by Mixed Veg:
However, the chances of taking ALL handguns out of circulation at this point in time just ain't gonna happen.
It'd be a slow but sure process. Every arrest of a criminal with a gun would be another one out of circulation. That makes the black market value of the remaining ones soar and the criminals start killing each other to get them- a nice side effect. You also do buybacks. You monitor the production/distribution chain to make sure new ones aren't getting sold [/QB]
It would then just rival meth labs as a criminal manufacturing activity. Do you think only non criminals are capable of producing weapons?
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Originally posted by Mixed Veg:
The handgun he used was purchased legally.
That's the problem: we don't have real gun control. Real gun control would mean you couldn't buy anything other than a plain fire-once-and-then-have-to-reload hunting rifle, with no scope on it. Anything else should only be sold to law enforcement. [/b]
In the old Soviet Union they had gun control. Do you know what was the #1 murder weapon in the USSR? The axe.
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Originally posted by vansmack:
The only purpose of a handgun is to kill another human being.
Thank you. And frankly, that's scary. Anyone can background check out just fine and still go buy a gun and kill someone they really don't like. Guns make it way too easy.
It might not stop the hardcore crazies from killing other people, but it would make this shit a lot less frequent and more difficult to pull off. Look at most of the people involved in shootings; The handguns are almost ALWAYS purchased illegally. And we can't teach a whole country that killing is wrong by offering handguns in a fairly accessible environment...
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If you had to go, would you rather be shot or axed?
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Originally posted by you be betty:
And we can't teach a whole country that killing is wrong
but killing babies is ok.
sorry, that was put up on a tee.
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Originally posted by walkonby:
Originally posted by Surly Bonds:
Originally posted by walkonby:
the last two school shootings were from adult males who were obsessed with molesting young girls, and targeted the schools because they wanted to have some of that young female booty.
thank god and baby jesus that gay people can't adopt or get married. kill all gay people.
Are you refering to that Dead Milkman (http://news.google.com/news?hl=en&q=dead%20milkman&sa=N&tab=wn) from Pennsylvania? [/b]
isn't it weird that the dead milkmen were from penn., and that the one who died (dave) was probably gay. maybe that was the real reason the guy shot up the amish school??? [/b]
Dave wasn't gay. He was a transvestite. Like Ed Wood.
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Originally posted by Venerable Bede:
Originally posted by you be betty:
And we can't teach a whole country that killing is wrong
but killing babies is ok.
sorry, that was put up on a tee. [/b]
killing babies is NOT okay. i never said i was in favor of killing babies.
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Wasn't it Chris Rock who advocated making bullets really expensive to prevent murder
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Everybody is talking about gun control. Got to control the guns. Fuck, that, I like guns. If you've got a gun, you don't need to work out! Cause, I ain't working out. I ain't jogging. No, I think we need some bullet control. I think every bullet should cost five thousand dollars. Five thousand dollars for a bullet. Know why? Cos if a bullet cost five thousand dollars, there'd be no more innocent by-standers. That'd be it. Some guy'd be shot you'd be all 'Damn, he must've done something, he's got fifty thousand dollars worth of bullets in his ass!' And people'd think before they shot someone 'Man I will blow your fucking head off, if I could afford it. I'm gonna get me a second job, start saving up, and you a dead man. You'd better hope I don't get no bullets on lay-away!' And even if you get shot you wouldn't need to go to the emergency room. Whoever shot you'd take their bullet back. 'I believe you got my property!?'
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bowling for columbine was such a nice movie on the subject.
and thanks for the insight on dave blood, surly.
i love to think back at the fact that foodfights or the occasional bogus bomb scare were the worst things that happened when i was in high school. you be betty . . . i'm so sorry for the youth of today. guns kill rich kids too. not that there's anything wrong with being well off; someone has to do it. do it baby. pull the trigger.
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Originally posted by Surly Bonds:
In the old Soviet Union they had gun control. Do you know what was the #1 murder weapon in the USSR? The axe.
Thank you!!!
We live in a really violent society. Take away all the guns and sure, there'll be a drop in murder rates but I bet it won't last forever. Before long people will be chopping each other to bits, or running them over with their cars, or whatever. And I don't think it's the fault of video games or tv or movies that we're so friggin violent. There's a lot of other contributing factors, including how pathetically low the rate of homicides that actually get solved is. And how a lot of kids grow up without any discipline these days.
I don't know how to fix it. All I know is, take away the guns, and you'll end up with a bunch of really creative killers out there.
PS this guy who shot up the Amish school was a total nut-bag and if he hadn't had guns, he'd just have found another way to kill all those kids.
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I know there's a Lizzie Borden joke in here somewhere.
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Don't blame it on video games or today's culture, society's always been violent, we just have mass communications that spread the images and info much faster so we are more aware of it than ever before. Check out Karen Halttunen's book "Murder Most Foul"--19th century America was pretty vicious, just take into account all the lynchings.
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i have no solutions for what happened in PA to a group of innocents. i don't think there are any solutions because this country is sick. sick as a shithouse rat. i know the following is not an exhaustive list of the reasons that have made this country THE nuttiest nutbag western country (it's the greatest country on earth motherfucker, and if you don't like it the way it is, then get the fuck out you fucking francophile) but it's a start:
the media and its consolidation
9/11
george W, dick cheney, rumsfeld, condi, wolfowitz, hadley, richard perle, douglas feith, etc.
neocons generally
fast food
bad beer
television generally
celebrity worship
mtv
saturday night live anymore
this GOP led house
this GOP led senate
most pop music
girls gone wild
the war on drugs
the military industrial complex
the university industrial complex
the prison industrial complex
the death penalty as applied
35% marginal rates on the nation's highest income earners
real estate gone wild
the nra
people who don't read a goddamned thing
terrorism
iraq
wall street's "numbers"
paris hilton
pro wrestling
the pharmaceutical industry
jerry falwell, etc.
extreme partisans from "both" sides dictating its respective party's politics
the committee system in congress
no 3rd or 4th or 5th party to speak of
al gore being a wooden fuck until 2003 or so
reality fucking tv
hannity & colmes
bill o'reilly
fox "news" generally
"red" counties and states
dateline nbc
meet the tim
the general level of discourse in the US
bill frist, rick santorum, denny hastert (the enabler), john boehner, etc.
wedge issues
the fact that i can probably go out and get a gun quicker than i can get a washing machine delivered to my place.
an american's "god given" and "constitutional" right to buy a pile of guns at wal-mart and elsewhere, solely owing to the fact that one has no criminal record, which can, in turn, be unloaded to any old ne'er-do-well. or better yet, that same individual can go shoot up some school and its students whenever that fucking piece of fucking shit might feel like "cracking." most others can do so as well.
cheers.
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But tell us how you REALLY feel?
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Boring.
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yeah, i know . . . a perfectly good thread now all shot to shit.
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Originally posted by Buck Satan:
Boring.
Apathy....It's not just for breakfast anymore.
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if we made homosexual schools it would be so much easier to kill them all.
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Wow...I think Yinzer just summed it up pretty nicely. No more need for discussion. We can archive this thread, thankyouverymuch.
Doesn't leave much room for hope, does it?
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Originally posted by yinzer:
i don't think there are any solutions because this country is sick. sick as a shithouse rat. i know the following is not an exhaustive list of the reasons that have made this country THE nuttiest nutbag western country (it's the greatest country on earth motherfucker, and if you don't like it the way it is, then get the fuck out you fucking francophile)
never been able to wrap my head around that mentality: the country is sick, but don't you dare criticize it. love it as-is or leave it. dissent is un-american.
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Originally posted by SPARX:
Guns don't kill people, people kill people.[
"yes, but the gun helps." - Eddie Izzard
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"You can get much farther with a kind word and a gun than you can with a kind word alone." - Al Capone
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Originally posted by flawd101:
if we made homosexual schools it would be so much easier to kill them all.
they already exist: corcoran school of the arts
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Originally posted by walkonby:
they already exist: corcoran school of the arts
Or Wellesley College.
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Originally posted by vansmack:
Originally posted by walkonby:
they already exist: corcoran school of the arts
Or Wellesley College. [/b]
Are you saying that Hillary Clinton is a lesbian?
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Originally posted by Surly Bonds:
Originally posted by vansmack:
Originally posted by walkonby:
they already exist: corcoran school of the arts
Or Wellesley College. [/b]
Are you saying that Hillary Clinton is a lesbian? [/b]
she is, it's common knowledge.
get with the fucking program
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Gun rights advocates are fucking nuts. Sure, people will still kill without guns. But it will be a lot harder, they will kill fewer people, and it will be easier to kill them before they kill.
There are two types of gun nuts -- the type who just love their guns so much they sleep with them; and the extreme libertarians who entertain fantasies about defending themselves against government storm troopers and cling to an ideology as ossified as Communism. Both types are idiots.
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Originally posted by They call me Doctor Doom.:
and the extreme libertarians who entertain fantasies about defending themselves against government storm troopers and cling to an ideology as ossified as Communism. Both types are idiots.
sometimes the government really is out to get people, and i think this guy would say the same thing-
<img src="http://www.beyond.com.au/images/catalogue/mugshots%20-%20david%20koresh.jpg" alt=" - " />
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Yup, and if David Koresh hadn't been able to arm himself and his apocalyptic child molestation cult to the teeth, Waco would've been a quiet surrender with nobody killed.
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Originally posted by They call me Doctor Doom.:
Yup, and if David Koresh hadn't been able to arm himself and his apocalyptic child molestation cult to the teeth, Waco would've been a quiet surrender with nobody killed.
if the government hadn't given him a reason to arm themselves to the teeth, then yeah.
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Originally posted by They call me Doctor Doom.:
Yup, and if David Koresh hadn't been able to arm himself and his apocalyptic child molestation cult to the teeth, Waco would've been a quiet surrender with nobody killed.
Or maybe if the ATF had just arrested Koresh on one of his many trips into town instead of attempting some macho display of power on his compound and shooting themselves with their own weapons...
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If Koresh had been a Moslem then everyone would still be alive and the mosque still standing. In fact, they would have had many new converts.
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Originally posted by They call me Doctor Doom.:
Gun rights advocates are fucking nuts. Sure, people will still kill without guns. But it will be a lot harder, they will kill fewer people, and it will be easier to kill them before they kill.
There are two types of gun nuts -- the type who just love their guns so much they sleep with them; and the extreme libertarians who entertain fantasies about defending themselves against government storm troopers and cling to an ideology as ossified as Communism. Both types are idiots.
And there are dreamers that think that hand to hand combat, prayer, singing "Stop in the name of love" or a big hug will stop a perpetrator bent on getting what they want.
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Originally posted by Mixed Veg:
The handgun he used was purchased legally.
That's the problem: we don't have real gun control. Real gun control would mean you couldn't buy anything other than a plain fire-once-and-then-have-to-reload hunting rifle, with no scope on it. Anything else should only be sold to law enforcement. [/b]
HAHAHAHAHAHA
OK.
Because law enforcement are ordained by god himself and can protect me at a moments notice.
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Originally posted by Venerable Bede:
Originally posted by They call me Doctor Doom.:
Yup, and if David Koresh hadn't been able to arm himself and his apocalyptic child molestation cult to the teeth, Waco would've been a quiet surrender with nobody killed.
if the government hadn't given him a reason to arm themselves to the teeth, then yeah. [/b]
I assume the reason you're referring to is the Government's view that trying to set up a molestation-and-abuse-based independent state with a private army is unlawful?
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Originally posted by TheREALHunter:
Originally posted by Mixed Veg:
The handgun he used was purchased legally.
That's the problem: we don't have real gun control. Real gun control would mean you couldn't buy anything other than a plain fire-once-and-then-have-to-reload hunting rifle, with no scope on it. Anything else should only be sold to law enforcement. [/b]
HAHAHAHAHAHA
OK.
Because law enforcement are ordained by god himself and can protect me at a moments notice. [/b]
Okay, but explain why people in the middle of nowhere PA or the manager of produce of Food Lion (Chantilly boy story earlier this year) need a machine gun?
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i just did a current event on school shootings in my history class. it was intresting on what some people found.
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Wis. lawmaker wants teachers to carry guns
He cites Israel, Thailand; school official says problems are not that bad
â?¢ Should teachers be armed?
Updated: 1:51 p.m. ET Oct 5, 2006
MADISON, Wis. - In the wake of school shootings in Wisconsin, Colorado and Pennsylvania during the last two weeks, a state legislator says he plans to introduce legislation that would allow teachers, principals, administrators and other school personnel to carry concealed weapons.
Rep. Frank Lasee, a Republican, said Wednesday that, while his idea may not be politically correct, it has worked effectively in other countries.
Link to full story (http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/15142930/?GT1=8618)
I can't wait until they issue me mine!!!!
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Originally posted by ChampionshipVinyl:
I can't wait until they issue me mine!!!!
What do you carry now, nunchucks?
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Originally posted by Surly Bonds:
Originally posted by ChampionshipVinyl:
I can't wait until they issue me mine!!!!
What do you carry now, nunchucks? [/b]
Vulcan neck pinch
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Magruder HS
And we already have a school shooting thread?!?
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Remington Arms agreed today to pay $73 MILLION to the families of five adults and four children killed in the massacre at Sandy Hook Elementary School. This is the FIRST time a gun manufacturer has been held liable for a mass shooting in the U.S.
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I still consider Sandy Hook one of America’s low points as a nation. The fact we as a nation did nothing after that…just wow…
Glad there is some very limited accountability at least
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Apalachee High School, Barrow County Georgia
4 dead
9 injured