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=> GENERAL DISCUSSION => Topic started by: cernoch79 on September 28, 2005, 09:46:00 am
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This show is going to rock!
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I printed up a few gold versions of this poster, those will be on sale along with the red versions.
The proceeds of the gold version will go to help the victims of the hurricanes. (Red Cross)
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I'm going! I tell you, though...I really don't know what to make of the new CD. I like the music but it's not quite what I'd choose to listen to. I used to describe BRMC to my friends as the best Britpop band ever to come out of California. Now they're the latest incarnation of Dylan. Not a bad thing but not what I'm jonesing for.
So - we'll see. I'm sure they'll put on a great show and it they won't disappoint. Anyone know anything about the opener?
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So basically you're saying their new sound is avast improvement on their old sound?
Originally posted by xcanuck:
I'm going! I tell you, though...I really don't know what to make of the new CD. I like the music but it's not quite what I'd choose to listen to. I used to describe BRMC to my friends as the best Britpop band ever to come out of California. Now they're the latest incarnation of Dylan. Not a bad thing but not what I'm jonesing for.
So - we'll see. I'm sure they'll put on a great show and it they won't disappoint. Anyone know anything about the opener?
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As long as there isn't a hurricane coming through town in the next 10 hours, I'll be there.
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Originally posted by xcanuck:
Anyone know anything about the opener?
He was with the shoegazer band Ride.
You can listen to some of his solo stuff here (http://www.ticket2ride.it/mgmicro/goodies.htm#live)
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NO HURRICANES!
I've missed the last 2 times BRMC has been down here. Both have been due to the weather. so yeah, hopefully no major snow storms or hurricanes...
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That Hurricane Isabel show was fantastic for the fifty of us that attended.
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Originally posted by pip:
As long as there isn't a hurricane coming through town in the next 10 hours, I'll be there.
There is, and it's called HURRICANE Evan! ;) I couldn't help it....I think the Lemonheads aren't getting much of a draw today...
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Originally posted by ggwâ?¢:
That Hurricane Isabel show was fantastic for the fifty of us that attended.
I was so close to going to that show, but my girlfriend begged me not to go. She just wanted to me to be safe. Still pissed I missed the show.
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I've only heard the new disc a few times, but I love it. Once I got past the "this isn't what BRMC is supposed to sound like" hurdle, I thought it sounded great. I'm there tonight.
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Mark Gardener was the lead of Ride, and he did a lot more for music than just "shoegaze." I'm going to this show only to see him.
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Originally posted by ggwâ?¢:
That Hurricane Isabel show was fantastic for the fifty of us that attended.
My wife thought I was crazy for going to that show. It was kinda surreal driving from Silver Spring to the club straight down Georgia with the storm going on. The streets were dark but by no means deserted. And no police presence whatsoever. Fun fun fun.
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This will be the best show of the year.
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I will definitely be there. That hurricane show was indeed special. Something tells me tonight might not be quite as intimate.
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The FAQ page says it's close to selling out. I was hoping for a lighter crowd. Oh well.
Anyword on set times? The front page still lists last night's info.
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Originally posted by Bombay Chutney:
The FAQ page says it's close to selling out. I was hoping for a lighter crowd. Oh well.
Anyword on set times? The front page still lists last night's info.
Doors Open 7:30pm
Mike Gardener (of Ride) 8:45pm
Black Rebel Motorcycle Club 10:00pm
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Originally posted by Bombay Chutney:
The FAQ page says it's close to selling out. I was hoping for a lighter crowd. Oh well.
Anyword on set times? The front page still lists last night's info.
According to people on this board, a sold out show means the band sucks.....Sorry, that's their rule not mine.
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Thanks, cernoch. I see the front page is updated now (although it still says Tuesday the 27th).
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Originally posted by Rob_Gee:
According to people on this board, a sold out show means the band sucks.....Sorry, that's their rule not mine.
Damn - Does that mean I'm no longer an elitist prick if I go to the show?
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No, you have to wish that Cindy Sheehan will burn in hell to escape that description.
Originally posted by Bombay Chutney:
Originally posted by Rob_Gee:
According to people on this board, a sold out show means the band sucks.....Sorry, that's their rule not mine.
Damn - Does that mean I'm no longer an elitist prick if I go to the show? [/b]
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I'm surprised that this show is nearly selling out because several of my friends who loved the first two CDs strongly dislike this new one, so much that they do not plan to go to the show near their town because they think the set will be "one third this new 'Exile on Main Street' crap".
At first it was not at all to my taste, but a couple of songs grabbed me, so I played them again, and then went through the whole CD a few times and ended up loving it. "Fault Line" makes me think of New Orleans and Hurricane Katrina. The whole thing sounds like a soundtrack for these times. I think they'll do an amazing show and give us a great mix of their music.
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Originally posted by Xavier Bush, Power Forward:
No, you have to wish that Cindy Sheehan will burn in hell to escape that description.
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I'd settle for her getting hit by a car as she's protesting, but I don't think I'll get that lucky. Maybe Ms. Bubba will show her a good time next time she gets arrested....LOL
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Originally posted by Rob_Gee:
Originally posted by Bombay Chutney:
The FAQ page says it's close to selling out. I was hoping for a lighter crowd. Oh well.
Anyword on set times? The front page still lists last night's info.
According to people on this board, a sold out show means the band sucks.....Sorry, that's their rule not mine. [/b]
Just because we say it doesn't mean it's always true...
and shame on BRMC for trying to expand their sound... bands which don't expirement, mature, whatever end up lookin even sadder as the years roll by
ya'll sound like a bunch of Dylan fans when he went electric
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Originally posted by kosmo vinyl:
Just because we say it doesn't mean it's always true...[/QB]
In other words, when indie hipster shows sell out, it's cool.......when top forty bands do it....they are mainstream sell outs.
Oh wait, I forgot, Indie is mainstream now...LOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOL.
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Originally posted by Rob_Gee:
According to people on this board, a sold out show means the band sucks.....Sorry, that's their rule not mine.
Hmmm, then I'm the asshole for going to all those sold out shows. Sunday being a good example! woo hoo!
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Who exactly said "soldout = sux0r" ?
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I love both bands, but Im going with the Lemonheads all the way. Evan Dando is one of my favorite song writers... I don't wanna not knock things down.
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Originally posted by Bags:
Hmmm, then I'm the asshole for going to all those sold out shows. Sunday being a good example! woo hoo! [/QB]
Actually Bags, they say it about alot of your shows....And your definetely not an @sshole by the way....Enjoy the show.
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Originally posted by DriveWay:
Evan Dando is one of my favorite song writers
I especially liked "My Name is Luca" and "Mrs. Robinson".
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Originally posted by Rob_Gee:
According to people on this board, a sold out show means the band sucks.....Sorry, that's their rule not mine.
whoever said that???
you know what? I think we should appoint Rob Gee the official whiner of the 930 forum...i mean really,
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Originally posted by Rob_Gee:
Originally posted by kosmo vinyl:
Just because we say it doesn't mean it's always true...[/b]
In other words, when indie hipster shows sell out, it's cool.......when top forty bands do it....they are mainstream sell outs.
Oh wait, I forgot, Indie is mainstream now...LOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOL. [/QB]
are you drunk? you make zero sense.
but really, when a show sells out generally, there are a few reasons
1. the band is a great band with lots of fans
2. the media has hyped a band up so much that people fear missing the show.
3. they are totally mainstream.
perhaps all we're saying is that number 1 is usually not the answer.
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Can anyone who was at last night's excellent show post a set list? I'm terrible about remembering song names and sequence.
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Originally posted by sonickteam, forum nice guy:
you know what? I think we should appoint Rob Gee the official whiner of the 930 forum...i mean really, [/b]
Believe me, there are about twenty people ahead of me. But thanks for the vote big guy.
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Originally posted by sonickteam, forum nice guy:
are you drunk? [/b]
Are you stoned?
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Originally posted by sonickteam, forum nice guy:
but really, when a show sells out generally, there are a few reasons
2. the media has hyped a band up so much that people fear missing the show.
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i.e M.I.A. and the second time the Strokes played the club...
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So, getting back to BRMC.......
The show last night. Hrmmm. I guess my ambivalence about the new CD is confirmed. I really dug about half the show and was bored with the other half. I looked over at my wife after the first three songs we both rolled our eyes.
They got rolling after that and really hit their stride with "Love Burns" (anyone know if that's a cover???). But when all is said and done, I think I might just pass on them the next time around. :(
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"Love Burns" is an original as far as I know. I think their new stuff is excellent. Much better than 90% of the second album which they wisely do away with performing. And Peter has become pretty darn good at playin' the harp. You're telling me you didn't dig "Shuffle Your Feet" or "Ain't No Easy Way"? If thats the case, you ain't got no soul, man! Those two were probably my favorite of the set. "Gospel Song" was also quite powerful, although they borrow heavily from Spiritualized on that number.
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I'm sure I am in the minority, but I actually think Howl is their best yet, though the first CD is excellent also. The new material sounded great live as well as the older material. Really enjoyed Whatever Happened to My Rock 'N Roll.
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It's so funny how we all have different reactions to shows. I thought the show was terrific. Maybe it was my state of mind, but I really enjoyed the quieter, new songs. I thought many of them were transcendent. I'm not sure what song it was, but the first song Robert sang (near the beginning) was especially striking. But I also love that blues sound and Peter's harmonica playing. To me, the new and old flowed nicely. The emphasis was definitely on the new material, though. Very little was played from the 2nd album, as far as I could tell. They played a really solid set timewise -about 1 hr 45mins with 5 songs in the encore. Oh and they had a second guy on guitar for the new stuff.
Love Burns is from their first album. Definitely a highlight.
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I thought the show was great. I particularly enjoyed the solo acoustic opening into Shuffle your Feet. New stuff, old stuff -- I thought it all sounded great.
If I were to criticize something I would just say that they never kept the "flow" of the show going after the first few songs. A minor point since all the songs sounded great.
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Originally posted by kurosawa-b/w:
Love Burns is from their first album. Definitely a highlight.
Don't know if "Love Burns" is the one I'm thinking of... But a number of the songs the on first BRMC sounded alot like Love and Rockets tunes to me.
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For the first time, they actually seemed comfortable on stage.
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Loved the show last night.
But admittedly. I don't know all of there stuff. What was the 2nd to last song before the encore. They should have ended with that song...
Thanks
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Where was everyone? I looked and looked and didn't see any of you. At least I did have some friends around me so not all was lost.
I thought the show was great with a few exceptions. First off, I was thrilled to see Mark Gardener especially since I never had the pleasure of seeing Ride. Was very delighted with the Fairport Convention song that opened his set by that woman with a gorgeous voice.
For me, BRMC's set started lagging during Howl but picked up steam as the songs picked up a bit later on.
Was it me or did they seem to have all of their guitars tuned to B flat or some other very flat chord? It worked extremely well for some songs but not so well for a few others. All in all, I was quite happy with the show.
Also, I'm happy to say that I escaped injury as I was almost cloncked in the head a couple hundred times by Robert's guitar. When it wasn't Robert's it was Peter's.
BRMC Set List:
(Written as on list)
Complicated Situation
Fault Line
Devils Waitin
Shuffle Your Feet
Aint No Easy Way
Weight Of The World
Love Burns
White Palms
Punk Song
As Sure As The Sun
Rise Or Fall
Howl
Still Suspicion
U.S. Government (alt)
Sympathetic Noose
Promise
Spread Your Love
Stop
Gospel
The Line
Open Invitation
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This was my second time seeing BRMC perform. First time was in 2002, opening up for Spiritualized. They did a pretty decent job back then. They did a very good job last night but continued to experience at least one problem: during several of their songs, I could not hear and/or understand the vocals, because the other instruments were drowning them out.
Highlights for me were the combination of "Shuffle Your Feet" and "Aint No Easy Way" (providing some sort of personal validation of "Howl" for me), the trio of "Love Burns", "White Palms", and "Whatever Happened to My Rock & Roll" (particularly the live version of "White Palms" ... lighting worked really well with that one), and the rocking duo of "Spread Your Love" and "Stop".
All and all a good show, if not slightly bizarre. First, there were the two gentlemen up front who were escorted away by the bouncer, presumably because they were smoking something they shouldn't have been smoking. To their credit, they did not make big scene. And then there was that fire alarm that went off during one of the songs - could barely hear it because the music was so loud, but you definitely see the emergency lights blinking. Didn't know if I was supposed to evacuate to or not! And I could not tell exactly what happened on one side of the stage... did one of the ceiling lights fall? It was just an odd evening but good fun. Now if I could only figure out who the woman was wearing the "St Paul Fire" t-shirt...
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Great show overall, couple of weird instances, but BRMC always has those.
If any one missed out on getting a poster, I have a few left for sale here:
BRMC Poster - Washington DC (http://www.gigposters.com/classifieds/detail.php?siteid=1676&pre=1)
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That fire alarm thing was odd. I did smell something burning just afterwards, besides the pot the guys from Virgina were smoking. At one point, it was kind of funny while it was going off because Peter then looked around and had this look on his face as if he was thinking, 'Should we stop playing and run for our lives?". Then it stopped and all was back to full out rocking out.
No, the light didn't fall from the ceiling. Peter just got sick of it and kicked it out of the way. Afterwards he apologized and said that he had to kill the light because it was getting on his nerves.
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Originally posted by Jaguär:
That fire alarm thing was odd. I did smell something burning just afterwards, besides the pot the guys from Virgina were smoking.
One of their lights caught on fire, but was quickly put out.
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Just got back from San Francisco yesterday in time to see the gig (my first time seeing B.R.M.C.) and was pleasantly surprised though a bit underwhelmed.
DJ Strange, myself and our crazy crew of friends were there, on the right middle side, and then later in the show, on the left middle side.
Firstly, to Mark Gardener. I didn't know it was going to be acoustic and to be honest, none of us liked his set that much. DJ Strange remarked the group sounded like buskers, and overall we were unimpressed. The Ride songs were cool, but totally lacking their original energy with all of those cool shoegaze-y, fuzzy, lustrous guitars (of course, done acoustically they would, but it made for even more disappointment). The 2 performers with him seriously looked like they partied at our parent's houses back in the '60's/'70's and I swear they could be poster children for Meeps on 14th Street. When Mark said they were going to bring a full band along in December, I said to myself that I wished he had done so now. Ah well.
When Peter from B.R.M.C. took to the stage in the beginning for his acoustic sets, DJ Strange said that he had 10 times more the presence than Mark Gardener did. All of us swore that if Peter sang the word "Jesus" one more time though, we'd lose it!
Almost all of us were disappointed in the fact that overall, the show was very slow and sedate. Of course, we knew that mostly songs from "Howl" were to be featured, but we'd wished they'd mixed it up. At one point a friend of mine went into the back sitting area and fell asleep, and DJ Strange left one song 'til the end due to being so tired. We felt bored.
The song highlights for me were, naturally, "Stop," "Whatever Happened To My Rock 'N' Roll (Punk Song)" and "Love Burns." I wished they'd done "In Like The Rose."
I wanted MORE songs with energy, drive and pure out rock 'n roll but I didn't get them. I wish the setlist had been full of more of that rather than the slow stuff. (That said, I did like the slow songs - there was no one song that they did that made me want to leave - I just wanted more energy!).
The best thing about the gig for me was the atmosphere. I simply loved the lighting effects (strobe lights and all) and swirling, ever present smoke. Very nice. Reminded me of the scenes from "9 Songs" in which you see B.R.M.C. on stage.
After the gig, we all headed over to DC9 where I ran into Peter. I spoke with him briefly, asking why "In Like The Rose" was left out and he said, "Well, we can't do everything." I asked him how their inclusion in "9 Songs" came about and he told me the story. He was very nice and it was cool meeting him.
After we wandered from DC9 at closetime back to the 9:30 Club, we saw Peter standing against the 9:30 Club building wall, talking with one other guy. As he waved to me (cool indeed!) we wondered why he wasn't off partying, etc. - it was kind of weird, though nice to see.
P.S. Jaguar, I don't see "Whatever Happened To My Rock 'N' Roll (Punk Song)" listed on your set list. I'm sure I recall them doing that one?
Cheers
DJ Medusa.
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Was very delighted with the Fairport Convention song that opened his set by that woman with a gorgeous voice.
you're fucking kidding me, jag. i walked in about ten minutes into his set and i missed him covering fairport?!? do you know which song it was or remember any lyrics?
seeing mark gardener was damn cool, as ride are one of my favorite bands and i never got to see them live, either. normally, i'm not much for the stripped-down, pseudo-coffeehouse vibe, but i thought he pulled it off just fine, mostly because i'm a sucker for a 12-string acoustic. the ride songs were a real treat, and the other songs were decent. i'd love to see him with a full band and hear how the songs translate; i assume they'd be much better. i thought his voice sounded great, and of course it would sound better buried under a wall of guitars.
i went over to DC9 to see the antiques but returned for about 30-40 minutes of BRMC. they sounded alright, but i was a bit underwhelmed. they are definitely moving away from the jesus and mary chain sound -- i see them evolving towards a spiritualized kind of thing -- but the new songs seemed a bit lifeless. apparently, i missed the best 30 minutes of the set.
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Originally posted by snailhook:
Was very delighted with the Fairport Convention song that opened his set by that woman with a gorgeous voice.
you're fucking kidding me, jag. i walked in about ten minutes into his set and i missed him covering fairport?!? do you know which song it was or remember any lyrics?
seeing mark gardener was damn cool, as ride are one of my favorite bands and i never got to see them live, either. normally, i'm not much for the stripped-down, pseudo-coffeehouse vibe, but i thought he pulled it off just fine, mostly because i'm a sucker for a 12-string acoustic. the ride songs were a real treat, and the other songs were decent. i'd love to see him with a full band and hear how the songs translate; i assume they'd be much better. i thought his voice sounded great, and of course it would sound better buried under a wall of guitars.
i went over to DC9 to see the antiques but returned for about 30-40 minutes of BRMC. they sounded alright, but i was a bit underwhelmed. they are definitely moving away from the jesus and mary chain sound -- i see them evolving towards a spiritualized kind of thing -- but the new songs seemed a bit lifeless. apparently, i missed the best 30 minutes of the set. [/b]
Yeah, you seemed to have missed all of the best stuff. BRMC were definitely better for the 1st half of their set. As a whole it was good with a few glitches and mistunings, etc., but they are definitely evolving. The band has always had a very healthy respect for their elders and it is even more obvious now. Will be interesting to see where this all leads.
Medusa, I was already prepared for some acoustic loving so wasn't disappointed in the least. In fact, I loved all of it except for maybe Gospel which was just a little too Jesus freaky for me and dragged too much. I do hope that the full band tour takes off. I got the impression that it just wasn't a definite tour thing at this point. With the Shoegaze revival and all of the Ride fans and it being a full band, I'm sure it will do well. Bring Amusement Parks On Fire or some Nugazers along for support who have a draw or would appeal to those unenlightened to the scene who need some kind of hype or gimmick yet don't require a big fee as of yet.
BTW, they did do Whatever Happened To My Rock And Roll (Punk Song). They just call it Punk Song. Look at the list again. It's under White Palms.
Snail, you have no idea how much I kept wishing during that Fairport Convention song that you were there! It was beautiful! Mark wasn't even on stage at the time. It was just the woman, whose name I could never figure out. Kel (short for Kelly maybe), or some out of the normal sounding name. But I can almost never understand what anyone is saying onstage over mics. She sang the song a cappella except for a little fiddling around with some delays or effects pedals about 3/4ths of the way through the song. You would have been highly impressed. Maybe even fallen in love.
As far as which song, it's been bugging me like crazy ever since. I just can't remember the name but I've always sucked with that. It was one that Sandy Denny sang and is a very traditonal Irish, or maybe Northern English, ballad that you would readily recognize. At least, any self-respecting Fairport fan would. May have been on Leige And Lief but it's definitely on one of their more popular albums. Very slow and features the vocals more than anything. I'm not in a situation to listen to any of my albums now so can't easily research it and I really don't feel like downloading a lot of stuff either. Maybe I'll go to a few sites to pick someone else's brains.
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Snail, I'm pretty sure it was Reynardine. In fact, I'd put money on it.
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> BTW, they did do Whatever Happened To My Rock And Roll (Punk Song). They just call it Punk Song. Look at the list again. It's under White Palms.
Jet lag!
Damn ... I can't read these days. ;)
Cheers
DJ Medusa.
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The show was great except for that horrible rendition the US govt. Damn good show.
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Medusa, excellent review, I've never seen you write so much! It made me feel like I was there.
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Originally posted by Doctor Doom:
Medusa, excellent review, I've never seen you write so much! It made me feel like I was there.
Damn, you just haven't been reading my reviews in other threads. (See my Berlin review, for instance). :p
Cheers
DJ Medusa.