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=> GENERAL DISCUSSION => Topic started by: nkotb on October 04, 2006, 09:39:00 am
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Anyone psyched? My wife and I burned through both seasons on DVD in preparation.
Speaking of which, did anyone check out the Lost Connections on the DVD? Most of them we already knew, but one or two surprised me. And a few of the little hidden secrets have given us some new theories...
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we're looking forward to it and have friends coming over to watch BUT I hope its an improvement over season 2 which I found dissapointing
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Originally posted by brennser:
we're looking forward to it and have friends coming over to watch BUT I hope its an improvement over season 2 which I found dissapointing
wow season 2 was dissapointing. i got hooked off the last show of the 1st season, and never got a chance to go back to catch up, but def ready for this. i told everyone that i might as well be dead from the hours 9-10. i was hoping for a 2 hour show.
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Interesting...I thought season 2 was just as strong as the first. Granted, it don't have as much "element of surprise" intrigue that the first season did, but I think the deepening connections between the characters and mysteries of the Others made it just as addicting.
I don't watch much television (too cheap for cable and our rabbit ears dont' pick up much), but this time of year is always painful. We've got a solid hour each night that is must see for us, especially once Fox starts into 24.
Speaking of which, my biggest Lost issue is the amount of gaps they have between episodes. I heard that this season is non-stop like 24, but I refuse to read any articles for fear of learning spoilers. Anyone know if that's true?
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haven't been reading articles either but I think I recall something about maybe the scheduling being a 10 week run, a 10 week break and a 10 week run, or something like that
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Well, that's a ton better then 3 episodes then a 3 week break than 3 episodes than a 3 week break, then...
Originally posted by brennser:
haven't been reading articles either but I think I recall something about maybe the scheduling being a 10 week run, a 10 week break and a 10 week run, or something like that
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I can't wait!
And I loved season 2! I don't understand why American tv watchers always want immediate answers to everything. I like all the questions looming over the show.
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Falling of my radar is not hard to do, but Lost has fallen of Smackette's TiVo season pass, and that's saying a lot about a show.
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We really enjoyed season 2 and season 1.
Can't wait for tonight.
What were the Lost Connections that suprised you?
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I think it says more about Smackette than the show.
What percentage of their initial audience have they "lost"?
Originally posted by vansmack:
Falling of my radar is not hard to do, but Lost has fallen of Smackette's TiVo season pass, and that's saying a lot about a show.
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Why â??Lostâ?? has lost me as a viewer (http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/14911832/)
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Originally posted by K8teebug:
I can't wait!
And I loved season 2! I don't understand why American tv watchers always want immediate answers to everything. I like all the questions looming over the show.
it would be fine if the questions werent made up as they went, i have always had that feeling with the show so have never really cared for it
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While I dont' doubt this is the case to some degree, I don't see why this is a problem. If they had planned every bit of this show throughtout X amount of seasons, that leaves almost no ability to adapt at all.
Originally posted by pdx pollard:
Originally posted by K8teebug:
I can't wait!
And I loved season 2! I don't understand why American tv watchers always want immediate answers to everything. I like all the questions looming over the show.
it would be fine if the questions werent made up as they went, i have always had that feeling with the show so have never really cared for it [/b]
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Originally posted by nkotb:
While I dont' doubt this is the case to some degree, I don't see why this is a problem. If they had planned every bit of this show throughtout X amount of seasons, that leaves almost no ability to adapt at all.
doesnt have to be planned out exactly, but I get the sense that the writers change their mind every few episodes about what is actually happening, are clues really clues if what they are clueing you into ends up being changed 2 episodes later
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This article reminds me of a friend of mine. He told me recently that he really likes Lost except for the storyline about the Others. Which seems odd to me, since the Others were about 75% of the conflict on the show.
I can understand not liking the show because you don't like mysteries or sci-fi themed shows or because it's a little too much for your tastes. But to say you loved the show before it became what it has is odd; there were monsters and sci-fi overtones since episode one.
Of course, I am a uber-fan, so maybe that's why I'm so defensive ;)
Originally posted by pdx pollard:
Why â??Lostâ?? has lost me as a viewer (http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/14911832/)
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Originally posted by pdx pollard:
it would be fine if the questions werent made up as they went, i have always had that feeling with the show so have never really cared for it
I agree. In the first season it appeared to my trained television eye that they were surprised by their success, so much so that the went a completely different route with a super-natural story line that had no foundation laid for it.
Smackette and I disagreed about this but as the story lines have continued on, she has agreed that the writing appears panicked at times and they go off on tangents without laying a foundation, much like the article says. I left half way through season one, she left half way through season two.
JJ Abrams did the same thing with Alias, which we loved, owned the first three seasons on DVD, barely finished the fourth and couldn't even finish the fifth season.
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Originally posted by pdx pollard:
Why â??Lostâ?? has lost me as a viewer (http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/14911832/)
nice article that sums up my feelings on the show fairly well
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in defense of dragging out storylines and not really knowing where things are going, we all saw what happened to "twin peaks" when they resolved their main issue...
maybe season 2 wasn't as good as season 1 and it disappointed at times, but there's still no hour of tv i look forward to more, at that includes when "24" comes back.
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Do you think they are going to address the issue of the 14 pubic balls this year?
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Originally posted by BookerT:
in defense of dragging out storylines and not really knowing where things are going, we all saw what happened to "twin peaks" when they resolved their main issue...
maybe season 2 wasn't as good as season 1 and it disappointed at times, but there's still no hour of tv i look forward to more, at that includes when "24" comes back.
I think that's what it comes down to. Though I do scratch my head sometimes with the seemingly ever changing direction of the story line, I still think it's the best show on TV
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'm an addict and psyched for tonight, but i have to ask....
of these two schools of thought, which do you believe?
1- They've planned everything from the beginning, and are working toward a pre-conceived ending.
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2- There is no master plan, they're making it up as they go along.
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Originally posted by Big KC:
'm an addict and psyched for tonight, but i have to ask....
of these two schools of thought, which do you believe?
1- They've planned everything from the beginning, and are working toward a pre-conceived ending.
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2- There is no master plan, they're making it up as they go along.
3. There is a loose master plan, but they're not exactly sure how to get there and are constantly changing their minds
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Originally posted by Big KC:
of these two schools of thought, which do you believe?
1- They've planned everything from the beginning, and are working toward a pre-conceived ending.
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2- There is no master plan, they're making it up as they go along.
It doesn't have to be an either or. But the writers have to do a better job of laying a foundation when they go off on these tangents. I believe there is an end, and it's completely different then what the writers originaly planned, and that's nothing new in television.
And the more tangents the better, but within reason. Today's cognitive learning dictates that the most successful television shows for our generation have multiple story lines, but many shows fail because they wrongly think that more tangents equals more reasons to pique interests of viewers. Lost is in danger of doing this. It's ok to have new storylines, but it's reeks of desperation when new storylines are brought in without any foundation at the end of another storyline.
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My wife and I are almost finished watching the 2nd season DVD. One of our main complaints, which we're constantly yelling at the TV, is 'Why don't any of you people talk to each other?' I swear, noone ever tells anyone else anything, it's all secrets. There have been so many instances where a conflict has arisen because someone didn't tell someone else something.
The other thing is, they've been on this island for two months now. Why isn't anyone doing anything to, y'know, escape off the island? There's been barely any mention of in 2nd season. Bernard couldn't get anyone to help him -- what do those people have to do that's more important? What is everyone doing all day?
I liked the first season because it was a relatively realistic depiction of how people might act and react in that situation. The second season seems a lot more contrived.
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Any thoughts on last night's episode?
Man, I hate the Others.
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Excellent intro, but the rest of the episode was fairly slow. A little disappointed that it wasn't more exciting, but I guess they needed to start this season off somewhere.
Man, I did get psyched when Henry/Ben told Kate that the next two weeks would be rather unpleasant. Yowza.
Originally posted by Weird Little Self Loathing Man:
Any thoughts on last night's episode?
Man, I hate the Others.
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Yeah, I pretty much agree with your assessment. I was hoping Kate would spit in his face.
Originally posted by nkotb:
Excellent intro, but the rest of the episode was fairly slow. A little disappointed that it wasn't more exciting, but I guess they needed to start this season off somewhere.
Man, I did get psyched when Henry/Ben told Kate that the next two weeks would be rather unpleasant. Yowza.
Originally posted by Weird Little Self Loathing Man:
Any thoughts on last night's episode?
Man, I hate the Others.
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Booker T, I agree with you about Twin Peaks...
I hope lost doesn't fall to the same pressure.
Why don't the viewers LIKE not knowing all the answers all the time? Isn't that the fun part about this show?
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Re: last night...I think they're trying to get Kate pregnant and using Sawyer or Jack as the dad.
From the previews for next week, looks like she picked Sawyer.