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=> GENERAL DISCUSSION => Topic started by: on October 05, 2006, 08:53:00 am
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WHAT SHOULD WE DO in the war on terrorism?
</font>- <font size="2" face="Arial, Veranda">Be More Aggressive...</font></li>
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- <font size="2" face="Arial, Veranda">Cut and Run...</font></li>
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Effectively gather information, let agencies work together, and not politicize the process. Perfect example is not getting rid of military personnel capable of doing Arabic translation because they happen to be gay.
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Wasn't that #2 ?
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Be More Aggressive...
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Also Nelson Munce says: "Gotta nuke somethin'."
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Edit: Joke tags added for the overly serious and for Betty.
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by implementing #2 now it allows certain parties to assert the US is getting soft on terrorism and become a bunch of "cut and runners". thus proving my point that the dealing with terrorism needs to be depoliticized first, followed by better covert information gathering, sharing and intelligence. This would allow the US to deal with terrorism over the long term and not try to fix it over night.
Americans have been sold down the river that government is suddenly capable of preventing terrorists attacks from happening here and thus willing to give up whatever freedom is necessary to do so. Where as terrorism has been a long time issue for the British who still can't completely get a handle on, and whose citizen still go on about their lives.
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Originally posted by kosmo vinyl:
terrorism has been a long time issue for the British who still can't completely get a handle on, and whose citizen still go on about their lives.
So the IRA's long term goal is to nuke London...?
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Americans have been sold down the river that government is suddenly capable of preventing terrorists attacks from happening here and thus willing to give up whatever freedom is necessary to do so. Where as terrorism has been a long time issue for the British who still can't completely get a handle on, and whose citizen still go on about their lives.
The British actually have more onerous intrusions and fewer rights. Wiretaps are approved by the Home Secretary - no judge needed. Accused persons can be held for longer without being charged, and with less evidence. And lets not overlook the ubiquitous CCTV.
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ok whatever... i'm going with my fall back response when i couldn't come up with a good argument earlier, prior to the "lock-out"
i'm looking forward to partying with all the cool people left on the scorched earth when the rapture comes..
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Just don't invite the mutants...they're such a drag...
Originally posted by kosmo vinyl:
ok whatever... i'm going with my fall back response when i couldn't come up with a good argument earlier, prior to the "lock-out"
i'm looking forward to partying with all the cool people left on the scorched earth when the rapture comes..
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I think the British (and Europeans in general) just tend to be more pragmatic and have more faith in their government than we Americans. So if the government says "we can tap anyone we want to," the average Brit just says "right-o."
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I wouldn't do anyhting. It's just a fad for Muslim teenagers and will pass like flannel did in the 90s.
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I think we should start hiring mercenaries from the former Soviet and Yugoslav states to fight in Iraq. This would take some pressure off our troops, and boost the economies of those countries.
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Originally posted by They call me Doctor Doom.:
I think we should start hiring mercenaries from the former Soviet and Yugoslav states to fight in Iraq. This would take some pressure off our troops, and boost the economies of those countries.
I agree with the Doctor. That said, maybe america should do what most celebs are doing today, make a sex tape and let your dumb brother canada steal it and sell it to the media. I should be in PR.
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Time for a flip-flop.... I think a bunch of us need to agree that while doing that final line of blow off the naked hooker to accept jesus as our saviour and pimp the whole rapture process and then party like it's 1999 where ever we get sucked up to...
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if it's the end of the world, would you snort coke off a hooker, or heroin?
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how about making a fucking timetable and knowing SPECIFICALLY and REALISTICALLY the outcome we're looking for before we go to war in the first place...
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Betty, that's a pretty damn good point. Unfortunately, our fearless leader forgot to do that. So we are stuck with the question, like it or not, what to do now? We can't undo what we've done.
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If it were the end of the world, I'd snort coke AND heroin off a hooker. Hell, I'd snort it off of you, Herr Doktor. YOLO, you know...
Originally posted by They call me Doctor Doom.:
if it's the end of the world, would you snort coke off a hooker, or heroin?
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nkotb, now you have me blushing!
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P.S. I'm gonna buy my pre-pubescent hooker (http://www.viceland.com/int/v13n9/htdocs/slavery1.php?country=us) from a poor Romanian family.
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Originally posted by They call me Doctor Doom.:
if it's the end of the world, would you snort coke off a hooker, or heroin?
I'm definitely doing both, but I'll have to pass on the Good Doctor being the hooker.
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Originally posted by vansmack:
I'm definitely doing both, but I'll have to pass on the Good Doctor being the hooker.
i take it the doctor isn't that good, then...
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Terrorism isn't a threat.
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Originally posted by Surly Bonds:
P.S. I'm gonna buy my pre-pubescent hooker (http://www.viceland.com/int/v13n9/htdocs/slavery1.php?country=us) from a poor Romanian family.
Now there's a good example of a link I'm not gonna click.
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Originally posted by They call me Doctor Doom.:
if it's the end of the world, would you snort coke off a hooker, or heroin?
Both, but snorting is for pussies.
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Originally posted by you be betty:
how about making a fucking timetable and knowing SPECIFICALLY and REALISTICALLY the outcome we're looking for before we go to war in the first place...
This sounds good and all, and by no means do I defend the position we're in in Iraq, but wars and world conflicts usually don't adhere to timetables and such.
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Originally posted by Señor Carlos:
Originally posted by They call me Doctor Doom.:
if it's the end of the world, would you snort coke off a hooker, or heroin?
Both, but snorting is for pussies. [/b]
I just was thinking that if the world is ending, it might be difficult to find a needle.
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Originally posted by Señor Carlos:
Originally posted by you be betty:
how about making a fucking timetable and knowing SPECIFICALLY and REALISTICALLY the outcome we're looking for before we go to war in the first place...
This sounds good and all, and by no means do I defend the position we're in in Iraq, but wars and world conflicts usually don't adhere to timetables and such. [/b]
Aye, it's true. Okay, so maybe we sit down and actually define "War on Terror"...what exactly it entails...what exactly we expect to get out of all this as a nation...at what point we have reached a favorable outcome...at what point we have failed and should give up...know exactly what we're fighting towards, you know?
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Originally posted by you be betty:
Aye, it's true. Okay, so maybe we sit down and actually define "War on Terror"...what exactly it entails...what exactly we expect to get out of all this as a nation...at what point we have reached a favorable outcome...at what point we have failed and should give up...know exactly what we're fighting towards, you know?
we're fighting for our freedom. the terrorists, they hate our freedom. they want to wrap you up in a burka and keep you for learning how to read.
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Originally posted by Venerable Bede:
we're fighting for our freedom. the terrorists, they hate our freedom. they want to wrap you up in a burka and keep you for learning how to read.
I think that was meant to be sarcastic, but that IS what Islamists want. Al Qaeda and its knockoffs are basically a ghoulish, global death cult which would like to turn the entire world back to the 12th century, where women were treated as livestock and people were tortured to death for the smallest imagined moral offenses.
The problem with the War on Terror is that terrorism is a means, and it's a means that has been around since the beginning of time and will be around forever (and which we've employed when it suited us, too). Thus by definition such a war can never end.
I'd be much more comfortable with a Global War against Al Qaeda, or a Global War against Islamofascism. That way you've got a limited enemy -- I'd say no more than 15,000 - 20,000 tops as far as instigators and people actually willing to do something. Rather than attacking nations, we should be focused on knocking off these individuals and their support systems, one by one. Radical clerics in London? Deport 'em. Radical mosques in Newark? Close 'em. Financial backers? Shoot 'em. It all could be over in 10 years.
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Originally posted by They call me Doctor Doom.:
Originally posted by Venerable Bede:
we're fighting for our freedom. the terrorists, they hate our freedom. they want to wrap you up in a burka and keep you for learning how to read.
I think that was meant to be sarcastic, but that IS what Islamists want. Al Qaeda and its knockoffs are basically a ghoulish, global death cult which would like to turn the entire world back to the 12th century, where women were treated as livestock and people were tortured to death for the smallest imagined moral offenses.
The problem with the War on Terror is that terrorism is a means, and it's a means that has been around since the beginning of time and will be around forever (and which we've employed when it suited us, too). Thus by definition such a war can never end.
I'd be much more comfortable with a Global War against Al Qaeda, or a Global War against Islamofascism. That way you've got a limited enemy -- I'd say no more than 15,000 - 20,000 tops as far as instigators and people actually willing to do something. Rather than attacking nations, we should be focused on knocking off these individuals and their support systems, one by one. Radical clerics in London? Deport 'em. Radical mosques in Newark? Close 'em. Financial backers? Shoot 'em. It all could be over in 10 years. [/b]
I couldn't have said it better myself.
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send bush, cheney, and rummy off to the front lines.
a quick end to war would entail having a draft for all males over 18, no exceptions.
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Originally posted by yinzer:
send bush, cheney, and rummy off to the front lines.
a quick end to war would entail having a draft for all males over 18, no exceptions.
The war would end even faster if extra weight were given to all males over 18 with familial ties to senate, congressional, and executive branch representatives. You ever see any of these political fuckers sending their kids off to fight their war?
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Originally posted by They call me Doctor Doom.:
Originally posted by Surly Bonds:
P.S. I'm gonna buy my pre-pubescent hooker (http://www.viceland.com/int/v13n9/htdocs/slavery1.php?country=us) from a poor Romanian family.
Now there's a good example of a link I'm not gonna click. [/b]
Why? It's quite worksafe. Investigative journalism, ya know...
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BTW, I WARN now if it's not werksafe. It's the new dupek way.
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Originally posted by xcanuck:
Originally posted by yinzer:
send bush, cheney, and rummy off to the front lines.
a quick end to war would entail having a draft for all males over 18, no exceptions.
The war would end even faster if extra weight were given to all males over 18 with familial ties to senate, congressional, and executive branch representatives. You ever see any of these political fuckers sending their kids off to fight their war? [/b]
What about John McCain's marine son in Iraq?
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Originally posted by you be betty:
What exactly we expect to get out of all this as a nation?
Petroleum
Originally posted by you be betty:
At what point we have reached a favorable outcome?
When all of the petoleum has been used up.
Originally posted by you be betty:
At what point we have failed and should give up?
See previous answer.
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Originally posted by yinzer:
a quick end to war would entail having a draft for all males over 18, no exceptions.
It's coming sooner than you expect, don't worry. But it won't be the end of the troubles. The war is in it's infant stage now.
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I got into an argument on Facebook regarding the burkas and burkinis and hijabs or whatever
I just hate the damn things and think women are brainwashed into wearing them.... but it seems like liberals are really trying to push the its "freedom of religion" thing...
ANyways, I think I burned a bridge or two.....
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I got into an argument on Facebook regarding the burkas and burkinis and hijabs or whatever
I just hate the damn things and think women are brainwashed into wearing them.... but it seems like liberals are really trying to push the its "freedom of religion" thing...
ANyways, I think I burned a bridge or two.....
Hi, Rhett!!
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I got into an argument on Facebook regarding the burkas and burkinis and hijabs or whatever
I just hate the damn things and think women are brainwashed into wearing them.... but it seems like liberals are really trying to push the its "freedom of religion" thing...
ANyways, I think I burned a bridge or two.....
So what compelled you to post this in this thread?
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I got into an argument on Facebook regarding the burkas and burkinis and hijabs or whatever
I just hate the damn things and think women are brainwashed into wearing them.... but it seems like liberals are really trying to push the its "freedom of religion" thing...
ANyways, I think I burned a bridge or two.....
Hi, Rhett!!
yes i felt very James Ford...
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I got into an argument on Facebook regarding the burkas and burkinis and hijabs or whatever
I just hate the damn things and think women are brainwashed into wearing them.... but it seems like liberals are really trying to push the its "freedom of religion" thing...
ANyways, I think I burned a bridge or two.....
So what compelled you to post this in this thread?
I wanted another thread but could not find it... anyways i like to bring up really old threads...