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Title: Lollapalooza
Post by: Got Haggis? on January 10, 2003, 07:42:00 am: Interesting... <A HREF="http://www.lollapalooza.com/" TARGET=_blank>http://www.lollapalooza.com/[/url] i'm sure it will be horrible....
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Post by: nkotb on January 10, 2003, 02:47:00 pm: But if I remember correctly, isn't Perry Ferrell back on board? If so, I'd at least give it a chance of being good.
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Post by: ggw on January 10, 2003, 03:26:00 pm: That website is reportedly owned by Sanctuary Records Group -- home to a lot of bands past their primes.Styx Dokken Pet Shop Boys W.A.S.P Ministry Tesla Blue Oyster CultSanctuary is supposed to put out the new Morrissey album also.I don't know how they would have gotten the name from Perry Ferrell. He did consider doing it last year, but dropped out after they couldn't get a headliner. There's also a rumor that Janes Addiction will release an album this spring.Either way, could a new Lollapalooza live up to the old ones? Here are SECOND stage acts from 1994:The Flaming Lips The Verve The Boo Radleys The Frogs Guided By Voices Lambchop Girls Against Boys Rollerskate Skinny Palace Songs Stereolab FU-Schnickens The Pharcyde Shudder To Think Lucious Jackson King Kong Charlie Hunter Trio Shonen Knife Blast Off Country Style Souls Of Mischief Smashing Pumpkins Green Day Cypress Hill Black Crowes L7 Do you think that they could get enough decent acts to fill the FIRST stage this year?I'm more in favor of bringing some Glastonbury / Reading / T in the Park - type festivals to the U.S.
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Post by: jadetree on January 10, 2003, 03:29:00 pm: <BLOCKQUOTE>quote:<HR>Originally posted by ggw: I'm more in favor of bringing some Glastonbury / Reading / T in the Park - type festivals to the U.S.<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>But the bands at an American festival like that would be much worse than the ones in the UK, and those already have some questionable acts. It would probably be a lot like HFStival.
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Post by: Got Haggis? on January 10, 2003, 03:30:00 pm: eh, the new Ministry isn't so bad...still not as great as their early stuff (twitch, tlorah) however better than their last anyway.Anyway, would be interesting to see what type of lineup they come up with...hopefully something better than Metallica headlining it..
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Post by: ggw on January 10, 2003, 03:42:00 pm: <BLOCKQUOTE>quote:<HR>Originally posted by jadetree: But the bands at an American festival like that would be much worse than the ones in the UK, and those already have some questionable acts. It would probably be a lot like HFStival.<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>Well, they wouldn't have to be so bad. Bumbershoot seems to do alright. Most of these radio festivals are put together by stations that belong to the big conglomerates and have arrangements with labels or tour operators, etc... That's why you see many of the same crappy bands appearing at so many of them.
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Post by: jadetree on January 10, 2003, 03:54:00 pm: <A HREF="http://www.readingfestival.com/pages/index.asp" TARGET=_blank>http://www.readingfestival.com/pages/index.asp[/url] <A HREF="http://bumbershoot.com/allartists.html" TARGET=_blank>http://bumbershoot.com/allartists.html[/url] The band listings for the two shows are quite different, don't think something like Reading would be possible here.
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Post by: ggw on January 10, 2003, 03:58:00 pm: <BLOCKQUOTE>quote:<HR>Originally posted by jadetree: The band listings for the two shows are quite different<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>Agreed, but my point was that Bumbershoot wasn't just the same bands that appear at all the radio festivals. <BLOCKQUOTE>quote:<HR>don't think something like Reading would be possible here.<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>Why not?
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Post by: jadetree on January 10, 2003, 04:04:00 pm: i just wonder if a lineup like that, with all the hipster bands would sell enough tickets here, without all the mtv bands
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Post by: bearman🐻 on January 10, 2003, 04:04:00 pm: The only way I'd go is if they did some kind of lineup similar to Coachella last year. My own personal dream list would feature bands like Queens of the Stone Age, PJ Harvey, Air, Travis, Interpol, Aphex Twin, Social Distortion, maybe someone like New Order or Radiohead to headline.
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Post by: Henry Dark on January 10, 2003, 04:06:00 pm: I remember seeing the Old 97's about 6 or 7 years ago and hearing Rhett complain about having just come off the Lolapaloser Tour, playing the second stage, and having Korn fans throwing shit at them.
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Post by: Celeste on January 10, 2003, 04:13:00 pm: literally?
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Post by: Fico on January 10, 2003, 04:18:00 pm: Coachella last year had some of the best line-ups I have ever seen at a festival anywhere... Charlatans, Bjork, Chemical Brothers, Foo Fighters, QOTSA, Strokes, etc etc etc..And of course, the band that makes it all worthwhile... OASIS!!
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Post by: jadetree on January 10, 2003, 04:41:00 pm: <BLOCKQUOTE>quote:<HR>Originally posted by Fico: Coachella last year had some of the best line-ups I have ever seen at a festival anywhere... Charlatans, Bjork, Chemical Brothers, Foo Fighters, QOTSA, Strokes, etc etc etc..And of course, the band that makes it all worthwhile... OASIS!!<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>only one of those bands would interest me
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Post by: Fico on January 10, 2003, 04:49:00 pm: <BLOCKQUOTE>quote:<HR>Originally posted by jadetree: only one of those bands would interest me<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>Sure Avril.
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Post by: ggw on January 10, 2003, 05:03:00 pm: <BLOCKQUOTE>quote:<HR>Originally posted by jadetree: only one of those bands would interest me<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>Which one? etc etc etc.. ?
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Post by: jadetree on January 10, 2003, 05:05:00 pm: <BLOCKQUOTE>quote:<HR>Originally posted by ggw: Which one? etc etc etc.. ?<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>foo fighters
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Post by: ggw on January 21, 2003, 11:45:00 am: Corporate Sponsors May Be Key To Lollapalooza's Return Organizers hope funds will help secure A-list acts for possible summer 2003 trek. by Jon WiederhornAfter five years in limbo, the Lollapalooza festival hopes to hit the concert trail this summer.Organizers have posted a message on their Web site that features the event logo and the message, "Are you playin' with me?," and a source close to the organizing committee said it's in talks with bands and promoters.Last April, Lollapalooza planned to lift off but stalled because organizers didn't leave enough time to secure a worthwhile lineup. This year they're considering seeking corporate sponsorship in order to afford the high rates charged by many A-list bands.Between its 1991 launch and 1997, Lollapalooza was an annual affair that exposed fans to a range of artistic performances and cultural expression. In addition to showcasing top names in alternative rock, metal, industrial, rap, funk and rock, the tour featured booths that promoted counter-culture and political awareness.The event was based on eclectic European music festivals like the ones in Reading and Glastonbury, England, which offer several days of entertainment on different stages. But instead of booking it as a single event, organizers wanted to take Lollapalooza across the country like a traveling circus.Lollapalooza was the blueprint for package tours such as Warped, Ozzfest and Lilith Fair and established Jane's Addiction and Lollapalooza co-founder Perry Farrell as a generational spokesperson. It also became a part of the pop culture. "The Simpsons" paid tribute in one episode with a festival called Homerpalooza, and when Moby's Area One tour was launched two years ago it was jokingly referred to as "Moby-palooza."The debut Lollapalooza was headlined by Jane's Addiction and included Nine Inch Nails, Butthole Surfers, Living Colour, Siouxsie and the Banshees and Ice-T's Body Count. Successive years featured a who's who of talent including Pearl Jam, Rage Against the Machine, Metallica, Primus, Smashing Pumpkins, Soundgarden, Red Hot Chili Peppers, Hole, Cypress Hill and the Beastie Boys.In 1997, the tour's final year, the lineup included Tool, Korn, Snoop Dogg, Tricky, Orbital, Eels and James (see "Lollapalooza Launches In Florida").
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Post by: thirsty moore on January 21, 2003, 11:50:00 am: Why can't they get those Nantucket Nectars dudes and Ben & Jerry's to sponsor them?
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Post by: ggw on January 21, 2003, 12:16:00 pm: <BLOCKQUOTE>quote:<HR>Originally posted by thirsty moore: Why can't they get those Nantucket Nectars dudes and Ben & Jerry's to sponsor them? <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>Here are some Lollapalooza alum and what they make on a per-show basis today:Flaming Lips $15K Ice Cube $20K Violent Femmes $25K Cypress Hill $30K Billy Corgan (Zwan) $35-50K Green Day $50K Moby $60K Snoop Dog $60-75K Red Hot Chili Peppers $100K Tool $200K (WTF ??) <A HREF="http://www.clearchannelcollegeentertainment.com/SearchResults.asp?Artist=%25" TARGET=_blank>http://www.clearchannelcollegeentertainment.com/SearchResults.asp?Artist=%25[/url] That's not even a line-up that could sell 50,000 seats these days and it doesn't include second-stage acts. Maybe they could make bands pony-up for a spot on tour - a la Ozzfest - but, then again, they would need to have someone of the Prince of Darkness's caliber on board.Tickets would be like $100 -- for what -- a Janes Addiction Reunion Tour?
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Post by: Synical101 on January 21, 2003, 03:45:00 pm: <BLOCKQUOTE>quote:<HR>Originally posted by jadetree: . It would probably be a lot like HFStival.<HR></BLOCKQUOTE> And that's a bad thing?
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Post by: jadetree on January 21, 2003, 03:49:00 pm: <BLOCKQUOTE>quote:<HR>Originally posted by Synical101: And that's a bad thing?<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>no man, it's a great thing, rock on
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Post by: Synical101 on January 21, 2003, 03:49:00 pm: <BLOCKQUOTE>quote:<HR>Originally posted by ggw: Here are some Lollapalooza alum and what they make on a per-show basis today:Flaming Lips $15K Ice Cube $20K Violent Femmes $25K Cypress Hill $30K Billy Corgan (Zwan) $35-50K Green Day $50K Moby $60K Snoop Dog $60-75K Red Hot Chili Peppers $100K Tool $200K (WTF ??)That's not even a line-up that could sell 50,000 seats these days and it doesn't include second-stage acts. B]<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>I'd go for Cypress Hill, Green Day, and Red Hot Chili Peppers. And I'm sure a lot of others would to.
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Post by: markie on January 21, 2003, 04:00:00 pm: <BLOCKQUOTE>quote:<HR>Originally posted by Synical101: I'd go for putting Cypress Hill, Green Day, and Red Hot Chili Peppers in a big bus, locking the doors and driving it into the sea. And I'm sure a lot of others would too.<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>Gets my vote!
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Post by: ggw on January 21, 2003, 04:06:00 pm: I just want to know how Tool can charge $200,000 a gig.
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Post by: markie on January 21, 2003, 04:09:00 pm: <BLOCKQUOTE>quote:<HR>Originally posted by ggw: I just want to know how Tool can charge $200,000 a gig.<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>are they sponsored by snap-on?I thought the flaming lips would be a good deal. I bet their price has gone up recently with the succes of yoshimi.
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Post by: Jaguär on January 21, 2003, 04:40:00 pm: Quote
Originally posted by markie: are they sponsored by snap-on?I thought the flaming lips would be a good deal. I bet their price has gone up recently with the succes of yoshimi.QUOTE]Would be much more interesting if they were sponsored by Strap-On. (http://www.930.com/ubb/biggrin.gif) ....though I still wouldn't be there...but I bet a certain will go unnamed couple would be there. God, I hate the RHCP!!! Sorry, I just DO.
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Post by: Sir HC on January 21, 2003, 04:50:00 pm: <BLOCKQUOTE>quote:<HR>Originally posted by markie: I thought the flaming lips would be a good deal. I bet their price has gone up recently with the succes of yoshimi.<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>Not that, probably because of the HP ad they do.
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Post by: markie on January 21, 2003, 04:58:00 pm: <BLOCKQUOTE>quote:<HR>Originally posted by Sir HC: Not that, probably because of the HP ad they do.<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>I didnt see that.... (http://www.worldoftile.com/Scientific/Bomb/bomb11.jpg)
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Post by: jadetree on January 21, 2003, 05:00:00 pm: <BLOCKQUOTE>quote:<HR>Originally posted by markie: I didnt see that.... <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>An HP sauce ad with the flaming lips would give a whole new meaning to all the bunnys they have running around on stagewhy does the woman have a mask on?[This message has been edited by jadetree (edited 01-21-2003).]
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Post by: markie on January 21, 2003, 05:02:00 pm: <BLOCKQUOTE>quote:<HR>Originally posted by jadetree: why does the woman have a mask on?<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>look at the url.....I think she plans on making a bomb out of peculiarly British culinary fancies.
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Post by: Jaguär on January 21, 2003, 05:04:00 pm: Hot Lips Packard
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Post by: jadetree on January 21, 2003, 05:06:00 pm: <BLOCKQUOTE>quote:<HR>Originally posted by markie: look at the url.....I think she plans on making a bomb out of peculiarly British culinary fancies.<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>strange
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Post by: thatguy on January 22, 2003, 07:52:00 am: <BLOCKQUOTE>quote:<HR>Originally posted by ggw: Here are some Lollapalooza alum and what they make on a per-show basis today: <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>just because clear channel, acting as a middle agent and therefore taking a cut as well, can get a college organization to pay those prices doesn't mean that every show those bands play gets them that much cash.
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Post by: kosmo vinyl on February 08, 2003, 07:14:00 pm: What are you doing Monday morning?Perry Farrell and Jane's Addiction, with members of Audioslave, Incubus, Queens of the Stone Age and Jurassic 5 will spend Monday morning telling the world more about this summer's Lollapalooza. There may even be some music in the air?Join us at Amoeba Music, 6400 Sunset Blvd., Hollywood, CA on Monday, February 10, 2003 @ 11:00am if you can.
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Post by: Latvia on February 08, 2003, 10:35:00 pm: Say what you want, but I don't think the lineup is bad at all. I went to the Lollapalooza shows when they came around and had a good time at most of them. The first one was one of the best shows I've ever seen, and I usually ignore festivals because of the obvious reasons. But most of those bands I grew up on - or in the case of QOTSA or Audioslave - I grew up on the music that their members made in other bands. I always thought Jane's Addiction was great live although I haven't seen them in over ten years. And Jurassic 5 is one of the few newer hip hop bands worth listening to, in my opinion anyway. The show will probably have corporate sponsors, which can be annoying anywhere. But who give's a rat's ass if it results in a great show? Im sure Perry Farrell isn't overjoyed that his fans have to drink seven dollar Bud Lights, but what major festival that contains big name bands can pull off a nationwide tour without major sponsors, especially something like Lollapalooza, with all the carnival-like crap it usually comes with?
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Post by: jadetree on February 09, 2003, 03:15:00 am: <BLOCKQUOTE>quote:<HR>Originally posted by Latvia: Say what you want, but I don't think the lineup is bad at all. I went to the Lollapalooza shows when they came around and had a good time at most of them. The first one was one of the best shows I've ever seen, and I usually ignore festivals because of the obvious reasons. But most of those bands I grew up on - or in the case of QOTSA or Audioslave - I grew up on the music that their members made in other bands. I always thought Jane's Addiction was great live although I haven't seen them in over ten years. And Jurassic 5 is one of the few newer hip hop bands worth listening to, in my opinion anyway. The show will probably have corporate sponsors, which can be annoying anywhere. But who give's a rat's ass if it results in a great show? Im sure Perry Farrell isn't overjoyed that his fans have to drink seven dollar Bud Lights, but what major festival that contains big name bands can pull off a nationwide tour without major sponsors, especially something like Lollapalooza, with all the carnival-like crap it usually comes with?<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>well have fun at your craptastic festival, so you were a big Kyuss fan were you?[This message has been edited by jadetree (edited 02-09-2003).]
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Post by: Ikarus on February 09, 2003, 04:24:00 am: i dunno. i adore jane's and porno for pyros, but the jane's reunion tour was awful. flea was a terrible choice. it seemed like i wanted to be there more than perry did. best thing about the show was that goldie opened it, and his intense bass hits caused people near the speakers to vomit. but more to the point, perry was way cooler before he did too much ketamine, got into trance and started talking to aliens.