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=> GENERAL DISCUSSION => Topic started by: Mongo on June 24, 2003, 10:08:00 am
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I am on the fence. How were they last October?
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Sorry, I posted another topic just now, at the same time you were posting yours.....
They were great last year. I couldnt recommend it more highly. Sometimes they play there tender songs a little too loud, but what do you expect from Gedge?
have you heard any Cinerama or Wedding Present songs?
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I'm going! I missed them last Oct. and have been eager to see them.
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i too, missed them in october so i will be there. i'm thinking the first of the two opening bands will start at 9? or should i be there earlier?
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Yep
blackcat seems to open doors to upstairs at 8.30, in reality, about 8.45 and then if its two support bands, the first starts at around 9.
I havent looked into the suppost bands at all though. Anyone know about them?
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Actually my brother burned me a copy of Cinerama and I have simply not given it enough listening time. I do like it though. I'll probably go.
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Originally posted by Mongo:
Actually my brother burned me a copy of Cinerama and I have simply not given it enough listening time. I do like it though. I'll probably go.
Which one? If you tell me I will let you know the best track and what they are most likely to play tonight.....
hopefully you have Torino or Holiday?
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Actually the one I have is This Is Cinerama. I just noticed that it was a compilation of import singles. Now I am curious to see what the rest of their songs sound like.
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I'll be there tonight. Very excited, as this will be my first Cinerama show. I actually saw Parker and Lily on the backstage a little while ago. They headlined on a bill that also included the much more popular Matt Pond PA. By the time their set began, I was one of 8 people in the audience, and that included all 5 members of Matt Pond. Anyway, I was totally enthralled by their performance. Be warned that they do seem a bit out of place on the bill, as they're probably the oddest band I've ever heard. They play sort of synth-based dream pop, with two women on keyboards and half a drum kit each, and a grumpy, dishevelled man who sometimes sings and sometimes plays heavily distorted guitar. Worth seeing.
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Originally posted by Mongo:
Actually the one I have is This Is Cinerama. I just noticed that it was a compilation of import singles. Now I am curious to see what the rest of their songs sound like.
Kerry Kerry is still played, they played it last time at least.... I dont think they played anything else off of that album though.
There albums have got better over time.
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thanks for the parker lily info Walkman....
sounds bad to me.
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Alright Markie, err, Andrew, Smackette and I will go if they're your FAVORITE band.
I'm assuming that because they're your favorite band it's no where near selling out?
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Last time it was not remotely close to selling out.
It would be cool to hang before the show..... Want to go for food? Pollys?
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Originally posted by Andrew WK:
thanks for the parker lily info Walkman....
sounds bad to me.
Honestly, I can't imagine that you'd enjoy 'em, from what I know of your tastes. They're only on the tour because they're label-mates of Cinerama, not because they sound anything like David Gedge.
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Originally posted by Andrew WK:
Last time it was not remotely close to selling out.
It would be cool to hang before the show..... Want to go for food? Pollys?
Unlike you, that's doable. I'll be at a previous engagement at the Reef from 7-8, then I'll be walking over there so I can stop at Polly's if you're going to be there. What's your timeframe?
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oh, no, they are so NOT worth seeing. i had forgotten that i was at that show too. i gave them 20 minutes and i left. i really tried to get into them but i thought they were awful. it seemed like a porn star wannabe and his two babes that were stuck in early 80's ny trying to get a gig at cbgb's and were too damn out there to be even be credible.
but, of course, that's just my opinion. :D
Originally posted by walkman:
I'll be there tonight. Very excited, as this will be my first Cinerama show. I actually saw Parker and Lily on the backstage a little while ago. They headlined on a bill that also included the much more popular Matt Pond PA. By the time their set began, I was one of 8 people in the audience, and that included all 5 members of Matt Pond. Anyway, I was totally enthralled by their performance. Be warned that they do seem a bit out of place on the bill, as they're probably the oddest band I've ever heard. They play sort of synth-based dream pop, with two women on keyboards and half a drum kit each, and a grumpy, dishevelled man who sometimes sings and sometimes plays heavily distorted guitar. Worth seeing.
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honestly, i can't image that anyone would like them.
i really thought they were THAT bad.
Originally posted by walkman:
Honestly, I can't imagine that you'd enjoy 'em, from what I know of your tastes.
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Originally posted by lily1:
[QB]
oh, no, they are so NOT worth seeing. i had forgotten that i was at that show too. i gave them 20 minutes and i left. i really tried to get into them but i thought they were awful. it seemed like a porn star wannabe and his two babes that were stuck in early 80's ny trying to get a gig at cbgb's and were too damn out there to be even be credible.
but, of course, that's just my opinion. :D
...and what's so wrong about being stuck in the 80's?
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Originally posted by lily1:
oh, no, they are so NOT worth seeing. i had forgotten that i was at that show too. i gave them 20 minutes and i left. i really tried to get into them but i thought they were awful. it seemed like a porn star wannabe and his two babes that were stuck in early 80's ny trying to get a gig at cbgb's and were too damn out there to be even be credible.
No seriously, Lily, stop sugarcoating it and tell us what you really think....
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I dunno
"* "My Apartment Complex" is the theme song for a new sitcom on Spanish national television, "La vida de Rita" (Rita's life)! "
Could be fun... I do like synth pop, remember I am 80's boy. Can I just pretend they are postal service?
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Ok Vansmack....
I have no idea what we will be doing. Lulu isnt working today and I can finish fairly early. So we just have to accomodate you and Jadetree.
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Originally posted by Andrew WK:
I dunno
"* "My Apartment Complex" is the theme song for a new sitcom on Spanish national television, "La vida de Rita" (Rita's life)! "
Could be fun... I do like synth pop, remember I am 80's boy. Can I just pretend they are postal service?
True, true. The new material has more guitar anyway...at its best, think Postal Service with female vocals + late Velvet Underground.
I think Lily's wrong. So there.
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there's synth pop, and there's synth pop. there's 80's music and then there's 80's music.
just forwarning you that you might just feel the need to head to the back bar for a beer during their set. hopefully they'll be first so i'll miss 'em anyway cuz i can't ever get there at a respectable hour! :)
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Originally posted by walkman:
True, true. The new material has more guitar anyway...at its best, think Postal Service with female vocals + late Velvet Underground.
I think Lily's wrong. So there.
i think you're being kind there. :D
their description sounds fantastic on allmusic.com but doesn't exactly translate out of the ocmputer.
maybe they'll be infinetely better than they were a few months ago, but i'm damn skeptical.
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Originally posted by Andrew WK:
Originally posted by Mongo:
Actually the one I have is This Is Cinerama. I just noticed that it was a compilation of import singles. Now I am curious to see what the rest of their songs sound like.
Kerry Kerry is still played, they played it last time at least.... I dont think they played anything else off of that album though.
There albums have got better over time. [/b]
I think I'll go out and get Torino next then.
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Originally posted by lily1:
Originally posted by walkman:
True, true. The new material has more guitar anyway...at its best, think Postal Service with female vocals + late Velvet Underground.
I think Lily's wrong. So there.
i think you're being kind there. :D
maybe they'll be infinetely better than they were a few months ago, but i'm damn skeptical. [/b]
Once they resigned themselves to the fact that their audience consisted of me, my friend, their tour-mates and some guy named Izzy, I think they actually played a good show.
DISCLAIMER: Walkman does not endorse listening to Parker and Lily. His experience with this product was atypical, and will not be shared by all users. If anyone is actually persuaded to catch their set, Walkman is not liable for any dissatisfaction that may result.
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skirting the Parker Lily thing......
Mongo, they sell the albums at the shows. Last time they had them all for $10 a pop. Much cheaper than you will get them for any other way, unless you get lucky on ebay...... torino, disco Volante and Holiday are very good. Holiday is an odd EP collection of torino and disco volante.
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Originally posted by Andrew WK:
skirting the Parker Lily thing......
Mongo, they sell the albums at the shows. Last time they had them all for $10 a pop. Much cheaper than you will get them for any other way, unless you get lucky on ebay...... torino, disco Volante and Holiday are very good. Holiday is an odd EP collection of torino and disco volante.
well, i wonder if it could be worse than certainly sir
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certainly sir,
I had blanked out their name, damn they were bad.
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My vote for the award of worst live band EVER!
Goes to "Big Bang Theory"
My God, that is SOME shite!
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okay so who do we think will open first before cinerama?
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well, now that was a great show. now i'm even more bummed i missed them in october. and i even remember kurosawa's real name unlike last time! :D
see, i told you all that parker and lily were utter shite. though i did meet walkman there and we agreed to disagree :D . and come to think of it, i remember seeing you there at their show in january.
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Cinerama really was great, much better than I expected and my hopes were high. They didnt even play my 3 favorite songs and it was still great. Gedge is a great entertainer, even if he was egged on by the fact he was being filmed.
The openers were god awful.
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WOW,
yeah Cinerama sounded great last night. That was definately one of the better sounding shows I have been to at the blackcat.
I liked it when the guitar work was ferocious and feedbacky and you thought it really couldnt get any louder then the guitarist hit the peddle and the sound doubled.
David Gedge is a mighty good songwriter....
But the supports were awful.
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it really was a tremendous night............why oh why did someone think that the openers would appeal to cineramas audience? it was painful.
i loved every minute of gedge's performance so i guess it weighed out.........well done markie for giving gedge the line of the song he forgot.............which one was that again?
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If I remember correctly it was the first song on Torino....
The words of which I have always loved:
I'm not denying that I was trying to appear nonchalant
You're not my wife; it's your own life and you can kiss who you want
But that kiss lasted slightly longer than strictly was right
You say you tried to break off but he was stronger
Well maybe you might
Not be quite as blame free as your expression suggests
If he's only an old buddy why does he stare at your breasts?
And is he always quite so zealous about keeping in touch?
I don't usually get this jealous, but that was too much
Please don't tease
Just stay away from him from today
I mean it, I've seen it
You say it's all just for fun, but look what you've done
Listen, babe, he was already trying to get his hand down your shirt!
From what you're saying (well, unless you're lying!) he's going to get hurt
Please don't tease
Just stay away from him from today
I mean it, I've seen it
You say it's all just for fun, but look what you've done
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Originally posted by Andrew WK:
If I remember correctly it was the first song on Torino....
The words of which I have always loved:
I'm not denying that I was trying to appear nonchalant
You're not my wife; it's your own life and you can kiss who you want
But that kiss lasted slightly longer than strictly was right
You say you tried to break off but he was stronger
Well maybe you might
Not be quite as blame free as your expression suggests
If he's only an old buddy why does he stare at your breasts?
And is he always quite so zealous about keeping in touch?
I don't usually get this jealous, but that was too much
Please don't tease
Just stay away from him from today
I mean it, I've seen it
You say it's all just for fun, but look what you've done
Listen, babe, he was already trying to get his hand down your shirt!
From what you're saying (well, unless you're lying!) he's going to get hurt
Please don't tease
Just stay away from him from today
I mean it, I've seen it
You say it's all just for fun, but look what you've done
Something in your past put meaning to the song?
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Not entirely,
I just think its a shrewd and yet naive view of a relationship. It makes it bittersweet.
Why? You never watched one of your partners flirt with someone and thought, hey up, this doesn't look right?
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Originally posted by Andrew WK:
Why? You never watched one of your partners flirt with someone and thought, hey up, this doesn't look right?
Not really, I'm not the jealous type. Flirting is okay but if lips make contact then we have to talk. As many street fights that I've been in during my past, not one was over a girl.
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Very wise. Whats the point over fighting over someone who would rather be with someone else? It never made any sense to me.
I think thats why I like the first couple of lines of the song and its genral attitude so much. Its a shame that you just know he is about to get dumped....
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Cheers to Markie for getting me out last night. Cinerama were amazing. And yes, while Markie gets props for helping David out when he forgot the lyric, my favorite part was David hecklinig back when Markie was suggesting the next song off the play list. Too funny.
My favorite tune was the second to last one - I think Markie said it was "Kerry, Kerry" but my ears were still ringing so I could barely hear him - that song kicked ass.
Anyway, the guy is an a amazing songwriter - start to finish a great show. Which is good because the openers were absolute horrid crap.
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kerry Kerry, my arse.....
It was Kennedy an old Wedding Present staple off of Bizzarro.....
I am glad you enjoyed it Vansmack, I was getting worried with the openers being so horrid.
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Originally posted by Andrew WK:
kerry Kerry, my arse.....
It was Kennedy an old Wedding Present staple off of Bizzarro.....
I am glad you enjoyed it Vansmack, I was getting worried with the openers being so horrid.
Thanks. I thought you said Kennedy but when I went home looking for it last night I couldn't find it on the cinerama web site. Kerry was the only thing close. I didn't realize it was Wedding Present song. Now I have 2 CDs to pick up.
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Well you can borrow one or two to have a listen first if you like....
The best wedding Present albums are, in order:
1 George Best
2 Bizzaro
3 Seamonsters
for Cinerama
1torino
2 Disco Volante
3 Va Va Voom
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I can usually find some good qualities out of openning bands that I have never listened to, but last night was an exception, esp. the geezer flanked by the two hookers. The tunes were predictable and boring and the instrumetation made it that much worse. With a real drum kit, a bass player, and decent chops they might have been able to present their songs better, but their current set up just doesn't work for me. Cinerama was very good though. I picked up Torino before the show and listened to some of it already. That David Gedge must have a pretty tortured past. Very good music though. Thanks for the recommendation Andrew!
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I am glad everyone enjoyed it, but I bet no one enjoyed it more than me. I still have a big fixed grin.
Mongo look out for my future recommendations....
Tyde at velvet lounge
Fall at blackcat.
I cant recommend those as wholeheartedly as I have never seen them live. But I love their music.
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I agree that Cinerama were excellent...plus Markie added that certain British je ne sais quoi...
I'll just keep my opinion of Parker and Lily to meself then, eh?
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Three of the members of the Tyde are apparently also in Beachwood Sparks. They were playing Bumbershoot last year, but I think we opted to see Wilco, who was playing at the same time. Sort of a 60's psychedelic alt-country sound. Not really my bag, but not bad.
Originally posted by Andrew WK:
I am glad everyone enjoyed it, but I bet no one enjoyed it more than me. I still have a big fixed grin.
Mongo look out for my future recommendations....
Tyde at velvet lounge
Fall at blackcat.
I cant recommend those as wholeheartedly as I have never seen them live. But I love their music.
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Originally posted by walkman:
I agree that Cinerama were excellent...plus Markie added that certain British je ne sais quoi...
I'll just keep my opinion of Parker and Lily to meself then, eh?
Thanks, its getting worrying when strange people come up to me know saying you heckled such and such a band..... I think I perhaps ought to stop.......
What did you see in Parker and Lily? I am curious as to why anyone but their own parents could like them?
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Originally posted by Rhett Miller:
. Not really my bag, but not bad.
The tyde or beechwood sparks.
They dont sound similar, not even same continent....
Beechwood Sparks are pretty twangy.
The tyde are more psychadelic pop, closer to Brian Jonestown massacre than most things that come to mind.
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It's funny you mention the parents. I was having that exact same thought last night. I was imagining one of the girls sitting at the household piano in front of the christmas tree playing their songs to her family. "Look Grandma, this is the kind of stuff we play for people at our rock and roll concerts."
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do you think their family would just go downstairs and play pinball? Thats what I did. I was on fire, I got three replays.....
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Terrific show! Cinerama exceeded my expectations -and they were pretty high. I especially liked the new song called Perfect Blue. Markie, is that on the new album or on a future album? A good sized crowd as well. Gedge seemed happy.
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As far as I remember there were three new songs last night:
Edinburgh
Perfect Blue
Dont touch that dial
The first two are definately new, the third I have never heard before, so I think it is new.....
David Gedge intimated that they had another 3 songs ready to go.....So six in total, and that hopefully they would form part of a new album and another tour next year.
I'll be there.