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Title: pete Townsend = child molester
Post by: G.Love on January 13, 2003, 04:23:00 pm: <A HREF="http://www.cnn.com/2003/WORLD/europe/01/13/uk.townshend/index.html" TARGET=_blank>http://www.cnn.com/2003/WORLD/europe/01/13/uk.townshend/index.html[/url]
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Post by: myuman on January 13, 2003, 04:54:00 pm: OMG.... rock and roll might loose it's choir boy image after this!
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Post by: Jaguär on January 13, 2003, 04:58:00 pm: Hmmmm.....Maybe a double bill later in the year with The Who and The Vienna Choir Boys. (http://www.930.com/ubb/eek.gif)
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Post by: Fico on January 13, 2003, 06:44:00 pm: <BLOCKQUOTE>quote:<HR>Originally posted by The Bombay Doors: I guess he won't be able to make the big Bee Gees/Who reunion tour then? Drat!<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>That tour is scheduled to go on with the remaining Clash/Beatles members...
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Post by: Captain Jack on January 13, 2003, 09:55:00 pm: I just watched Quadrophenia and was inspired to wear one of my Who shirts, I guess I still will, whatever. My dad says that Pete thinks he might have been molested when he was 5 or 6, he says part of 'Tommy' is about that. I wouldn't disown the Who just yet.
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Post by: oyh86 on January 14, 2003, 12:01:00 am: To write anybody's name in the world = child molester is a awful thing unless you're sure the man is guilty. And all indications are the man is not guilty. Imagine what any of us would feel like if we were accused of that and yet we knew we were Not guilty. The poor guy if he is innocent is being done the worst injustice you can imagine!!
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Post by: ggw on January 14, 2003, 12:21:00 am: Tough boys Running the streets Come a little closer Rough toys Under the sheets Nobody knows her Rough boys Don't walk away I very nearly missed you Tough boys Come over here I wanna bite and kiss youI wanna see what I can find Tough kids Take a bottle of wine When your deal is broken Ten quid She's so easy to find Not a word is spoken Rough boys Don't walk away I'm still pretty blissed here Tough boy I'm gonna carry you home You got pretty pissed dearGonna get inside you Gonna get inside your bitter mindRough boys Don't walk away I wanna buy you leather Make noise Try and talk me away We can't be seen together Tough kids What can I do? I'm so pale and weedy Rough fits In my Hush Puppy shoes But I'm still pleadingTough boys Running the streets Come a little closer Rough toys Under the sheets Nobody knows her Rough boys Don't walk away I very nearly missed you Tough boys Come over here I wanna bite and kiss youI wanna see what I can find!
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Post by: markie on January 14, 2003, 12:22:00 am: Sure...He didnt molest any children, but he did admit to looking at kiddie porn. There is no excuse for that. I mean if you suck cock then you are gay, if you kill someone you are a murdurer. You cant really use an excuse of just wanting to see what its like. Duh!
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Post by: bungle bud on January 14, 2003, 09:40:00 am: im sure if we all dig a little deeper we can link phil collins to this kiddie porn.
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Post by: Celeste on January 14, 2003, 10:07:00 am: <BLOCKQUOTE>quote:<HR>Originally posted by markie: Sure...He didnt molest any children, but he did admit to looking at kiddie porn. There is no excuse for that. I mean if you suck cock then you are gay, if you kill someone you are a murdurer. You cant really use an excuse of just wanting to see what its like. Duh!<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>I suck cock and I'm not gay.
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Post by: bungle bud on January 14, 2003, 10:12:00 am: markie meant if you suck his cock you are gay because he pays young men to suck his meat stick.
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Post by: Celeste on January 14, 2003, 10:17:00 am: I don't think his wife is gay and I bet she sucks his cock.
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Post by: G.Love on January 14, 2003, 11:02:00 am: <BLOCKQUOTE>quote:<HR>Originally posted by oyh86: To write anybody's name in the world = child molester is a awful thing unless you're sure the man is guilty <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>Let's see??? he admitted to paying so that he could view naked children on the Internet, all in the name of research for his upcuming book of course. By paying to view the pictures, he was providing a market for others to violate children's rights. That in my book makes him an accessory to the crime of child molestation.ACCESSORY = One who incites, aids, or abets a lawbreaker in the commission of a crime but is not present at the time of the crime
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Post by: G.Love on January 14, 2003, 11:04:00 am: <BLOCKQUOTE>quote:<HR>Originally posted by Celeste: I suck cock and I'm not gay.<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>Rhett does, but does that make him gay. No. The fact that he listens to country makes him gay!!!!
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Post by: Celeste on January 14, 2003, 11:05:00 am: I agree with your line of reasoning, to a degree, about creating demand for child porn...would it have been less incriminating if he got the images for free? [This message has been edited by Celeste (edited 01-14-2003).]
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Post by: Celeste on January 14, 2003, 11:08:00 am: This could open an interesting debate about images vs. reality. Would it be wrong to create or posess paintings depicting "child pornography", in which no children were actually involved?[This message has been edited by Celeste (edited 01-14-2003).]
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Post by: Charlie Nakatestes, Japanese Golfer on January 14, 2003, 11:27:00 am: Psychoanalyzing total strangers based on their songs is about as valid as doing it on the basis of what they type on a goofy message board. Peter Gabriel wrote the intensely creepy "Intruder," but I doubt he gets a chubby from contemplating home invasion, and Mick Jagger isn't the Midnight Rambler. As for Townshend, I adhere strictly to "innocent until proven guilty" for nobodies and somebodies alike, regardless of what they're accused of. Have you noticed that some TV/radio reports are (unintentionally) making it sound almost as if he's suspected of being involved in a child porn or pedophilia ring or distribution network rather than Net viewing? At least they do initially; then eventually they get to the website information, but it creates a misleading impression for drive-by listeners. While it's fine to bust the alleged consumers of the product, I'm not sure it's the best use of limited law enforcement resources--just as jailing illegal drug users doesn't have much effect on the supply side. It probably just encourages serious pedophiles to get even more crafty. The vast majority of these folks ain't using their own credit cards openly on public sites, that's for sure. Using Web activity as a starting point for tracking the big gun distributors and active pedophiles makes sense, but arresting (even in the more flexible Brit manner) someone on the basis of one credit card hit seems a bit like spitting on a forest fire.
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Post by: markie on January 14, 2003, 11:52:00 am: <BLOCKQUOTE>quote:<HR>Originally posted by Rhett Miller: seems a bit like spitting on a forest fire. <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>I agree, but it does send a clear message to anyone else wanting to do research of their own..... If you do that kind of research you will lose your job and go to jail. Which is a positive thing as it hits at the bad peoples revenue stream.
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Post by: Charlie Nakatestes, Japanese Golfer on January 14, 2003, 11:57:00 am: It seems to me if he were doing legitimate research, that should not be a crime, and that person should not go to jail. <BLOCKQUOTE>quote:<HR>Originally posted by markie: I agree, but it does send a clear message to anyone else wanting to do research of their own..... If you do that kind of research you will lose your job and go to jail. Which is a positive thing as it hits at the bad peoples revenue stream.<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>
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Post by: markie on January 14, 2003, 12:03:00 pm: <BLOCKQUOTE>quote:<HR>Originally posted by Rhett Miller: It seems to me if he were doing legitimate research, that should not be a crime, and that person should not go to jail. <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>so if I kill my wife doing research on what its like to be a murderer that ok?HUM.......I am off home
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Post by: Charlie Nakatestes, Japanese Golfer on January 14, 2003, 12:07:00 pm: I don't think you are as dumb as your argument... <BLOCKQUOTE>quote:<HR>Originally posted by markie: so if I kill my wife doing research on what its like to be a murderer that ok?HUM.......I am off home<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>
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Post by: markie on January 14, 2003, 12:16:00 pm: <BLOCKQUOTE>quote:<HR>Originally posted by Rhett Miller: I don't think you are as dumb as your argument... <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>sorry I obviously am. If you do something illegal, it remains illegal whatever your motive.The law is an ass.
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Post by: markie on January 14, 2003, 12:18:00 pm: <BLOCKQUOTE>quote:<HR>Originally posted by The Bombay Doors: Don't disparage Phil. He was once a most-excellent drummer with Brand-X and had hair (http://tralfaz-archives.com/coverart/B/brandx_moroccanb.jpg) <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>At least Phils comeback does not seem to have garnered much attention. The guy is a Cretin, why cant god take him instead of the talented people?
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Post by: Charlie Nakatestes, Japanese Golfer on January 14, 2003, 12:22:00 pm: I guess I see viewing kiddie porn as a moral depravation issue rather than a legal issue. Though if one is paying for it, in a small way they are aiding in it's existence, even if they are doing "research". If he were doing legit research, he should have attained permission. But then again, since when do rock starts ask for permission to do anything? <BLOCKQUOTE>quote:<HR>Originally posted by markie: sorry I obviously am. If you do something illegal, it remains illegal whatever your motive.The law is an ass.<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>
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Post by: G.Love on January 14, 2003, 12:24:00 pm: It is always after they get caught that they say it is for research. Another thing that pisses me off is those reporters that try to smuggle fake bombs into airports to show how bad security is or how easy it is to buy designer drugs. Once it is shown on tv that they did it, should they be arrested? - I certainly would like to see that happen!
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Post by: Charlie Nakatestes, Japanese Golfer on January 14, 2003, 12:28:00 pm: Whether it was actually for research or not is for the courts to resolve.Should he just announce to the world beforehand that he is doing kiddie porn research? Must one announce all of your intentions publicly before proceeding? <BLOCKQUOTE>quote:<HR>Originally posted by G.Love: It is always after they get caught that they say it is for research. Another thing that pisses me off is those reporters that try to smuggle fake bombs into airports to show how bad security is or how easy it is to buy designer drugs. Once it is shown on tv that they did it, should they be arrested? - I certainly would like to see that happen!<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>
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Post by: Celeste on January 14, 2003, 12:31:00 pm: <BLOCKQUOTE>quote:<HR>Originally posted by markie: so if I kill my wife doing research on what its like to be a murderer that ok? <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>your argument is not a proper parallel...if you looked at pictures of someone being killed that would not make you a killer...
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Post by: Celeste on January 14, 2003, 12:32:00 pm: though I believe snuff films are illegal, as child pornography is...
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Post by: G.Love on January 14, 2003, 12:35:00 pm: <BLOCKQUOTE>quote:<HR>Originally posted by Rhett Miller: Whether it was actually for research or not is for the courts to resolve.Should he just announce to the world beforehand that he is doing kiddie porn research? Must one announce all of your intentions publicly before proceeding? <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>Thats why it is such a good excuse! Maybe he could have been temporarily deputized by London Yards prior to his research!
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Post by: Celeste on January 14, 2003, 12:37:00 pm: <BLOCKQUOTE>quote:<HR>Originally posted by Rhett Miller: I guess I see viewing kiddie porn as a moral depravation issue rather than a legal issue. Though if one is paying for it, in a small way they are aiding in it's existence, even if they are doing "research". If he were doing legit research, he should have attained permission. But then again, since when do rock starts ask for permission to do anything? <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>I agree with the "moral depravation" vs. legality issue, in terms of posessing the porn, vs. producing the porn---can't people see the difference between uploading and downloading?---however, the research argument is flimsy...he could have interviewed abused kids or read psychology books on the subject...I would only buy the "research" as more of an emotional exploration for him, like seeing if looking at these images triggered any feelings or memories for him...what may be very sad and very likely is that he is a victim of the abuse he had to endure and that has damaged him, making him drawn to child pornography...it is true that the abused often go on to abuse, or fantasize about abuse...doesn't make it right, of course, but, we can have a little compassion
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Post by: markie on January 14, 2003, 12:53:00 pm: <BLOCKQUOTE>quote:<HR>Originally posted by The Bombay Doors: Up with people?<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>you have lost me there......is that a REM reference or a Lambchop reference?all I know is lennon is dead, McCartney is still alive. Ketih Moon is Dead Daltrey is still alive......Hendrix is dead, Phil collins is still alive.Why cant the crap be taken young?
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Post by: Henry Dark on January 14, 2003, 01:01:00 pm: Andy Gibb died at 30, his much more talented brothers live longer... <BLOCKQUOTE>quote:<HR>Originally posted by markie: you have lost me there...... Why cant the crap be taken young?<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>
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Post by: markie on January 14, 2003, 01:09:00 pm: <BLOCKQUOTE>quote:<HR>Originally posted by Henry Dark: Andy Gibb died at 30, his much more talented brothers live longer... <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>I thought Andy thought he was too cool to hang about with his big-toothed brothers?didnt he drink himself to death as well?
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Post by: bungle bud on January 14, 2003, 01:17:00 pm: he was fond of his drugs,his brothers admitted that andy had a big drug problem they also said that the best moment of there career was when andy joined them on stage, the bee gees are going to carry on without maurice, so markie will still have a chance to buy his first bee gee record.
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Post by: markie on January 14, 2003, 01:21:00 pm: I am sure I have saturday night fever back in the UK. I think it came in a job lot of records..... I dont think I have anything else though. Perhaps I have missed out?Then again I dont like Neil Diamond either......
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Post by: Mobius on January 14, 2003, 01:29:00 pm: Its ironic that the guy who writes "hope I die before I get old," gets old and has this kind of fall from grace. I really do feel bad for the guy, whatever his motivation. Once upon a time he focused his creative energy in a way that exorcised his demons (assumably) and made him a hero. It seems his energies (whatever's left) are now sadly misguided. I don't understand the thought process of abhoring the subject matter, but paying money to support it. I imagine he could have completed his "research" using free content. Its sad to see someone win on so many levels, but ultimately look like a loser. Is he a child molester? I don't think so. Is he a sorry old loser? Well, it kind of looks that way.
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Post by: Henry Dark on January 14, 2003, 01:41:00 pm: Well now we know what he meant when he wrote "The Kids are Alright".
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Post by: Jaguär on January 14, 2003, 04:29:00 pm: <BLOCKQUOTE>quote:<HR>Originally posted by markie: you have lost me there......is that a REM reference or a Lambchop reference? <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>Trust me Markie, you DON'T want to know anything about Up With People! (http://www.930.com/ubb/eek.gif) (http://www.930.com/ubb/eek.gif) (http://www.930.com/ubb/eek.gif) They make Phil Collins, Neil Diamond, and all that other kind of schlock sound good. Very good!
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Post by: markie on January 14, 2003, 04:43:00 pm: <BLOCKQUOTE>quote:<HR>Originally posted by Jaguär: Trust me Markie, <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>even allmusic didnt have anything to say. Just that their highest chart position was 61......I have no idea whatsoever who they are.But with your advice I think I shall still sleep soundly at night.
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Post by: Celeste on January 14, 2003, 05:07:00 pm: Maybe a Simpsons reference will help...they made fun of them once... <A HREF="http://www.shift.com/content/10.3/397/1.html" TARGET=_blank>http://www.shift.com/content/10.3/397/1.html[/url]
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Post by: Henry Dark on January 14, 2003, 05:09:00 pm: Actually, Neil Diamond has written some good songs. Perhaps that's why the 9:30 club is hosting a Neil Diamond tribute band Friday night, and not a Phil Collins tribute band. <BLOCKQUOTE>quote:<HR>Originally posted by Jaguär: Trust me Markie, you DON'T want to know anything about Up With People! (http://www.930.com/ubb/eek.gif) (http://www.930.com/ubb/eek.gif) (http://www.930.com/ubb/eek.gif) They make Phil Collins, Neil Diamond, and all that other kind of schlock sound good. Very good! <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>
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Post by: Celeste on January 14, 2003, 05:13:00 pm: <BLOCKQUOTE>quote:<HR>Originally posted by Henry Dark: Actually, Neil Diamond has written some good songs. Perhaps that's why the 9:30 club is hosting a Neil Diamond tribute band Friday night, and not a Phil Collins tribute band. <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>Just give it time...
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Post by: markie on January 14, 2003, 05:17:00 pm: <BLOCKQUOTE>quote:<HR>Originally posted by Celeste: Maybe a Simpsons reference will help...they made fun of them once... <A HREF="http://www.shift.com/content/10.3/397/1.html" TARGET=_blank>http://www.shift.com/content/10.3/397/1.html[/url] <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>excellent cross reference, but I dont remember that. But then again if you dont recognise the band at the time the joke is pretty forgetable.
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Post by: markie on January 14, 2003, 05:19:00 pm: <BLOCKQUOTE>quote:<HR>Originally posted by Celeste: Just give it time...<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>I dont see the point of a tribute band, especially so when the tributed artist is still alive and performing his hits.But then again, I always go to a show to see a rock star, not someone pretending to be a rock star.....
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Post by: Henry Dark on January 14, 2003, 05:21:00 pm: In the case of the Neil Diamond tribute, the point is that 20somethings can go see the tribute band for $15, smoke and drink in a club, and not have to pay $75 to see the real guy in a huge smoke free amphitheater filled with horny 50something housewives. <BLOCKQUOTE>quote:<HR>Originally posted by markie: I dont see the point of a tribute band, especially so when the tributed artist is still alive and performing his hits.But then again, I always go to a show to see a rock star, not someone pretending to be a rock star.....<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>
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Post by: Celeste on January 14, 2003, 05:27:00 pm: <BLOCKQUOTE>quote:<HR>Originally posted by markie: I dont see the point of a tribute band, especially so when the tributed artist is still alive and performing his hits.But then again, I always go to a show to see a rock star, not someone pretending to be a rock star.....<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>It's about the MUSIC, man...not about the rock STAR...we used to go see Zeppelin and Floyd cover bands all the time when I was a dopey 20-something...if you like the songs and drink enough, it's a good time...of course, key members of those bands being tributed are dead (aren't they?)...I think I may have even seen a Who cover band...
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Post by: Henry Dark on January 14, 2003, 05:32:00 pm: That WE did not include ME.I'll take a Neil Diamond tribute band to a Zepplin or Floyd tribute band anyday. <BLOCKQUOTE>quote:<HR>Originally posted by Celeste: It's about the MUSIC, man...not about the rock STAR...we used to go see Zeppelin and Floyd cover bands all the time when I was a dopey 20-something...if you like the songs and drink enough, it's a good time...of course, key members of those bands being tributed are dead (aren't they?)...I think I may have even seen a Who cover band...<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>
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Post by: Celeste on January 14, 2003, 05:35:00 pm: you're nuts!
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Post by: Dandy01 on January 14, 2003, 05:37:00 pm: gotta definitely side w/Celeste on this one, sorry Henry.
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Post by: Henry Dark on January 14, 2003, 05:39:00 pm: <A HREF="http://www.superdiamond.com/sounds.htm" TARGET=_blank>http://www.superdiamond.com/sounds.htm[/url] check out some of these dandy, and your tune will be changing
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Post by: Dandy01 on January 14, 2003, 05:41:00 pm: <BLOCKQUOTE>quote:<HR>Originally posted by Henry Dark: <A HREF="http://www.superdiamond.com/sounds.htm" TARGET=_blank>http://www.superdiamond.com/sounds.htm[/url] check out some of these dandy, and your tune will be changing<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>I gave it a shot, but his voice makes me cringe.
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Post by: Celeste on January 14, 2003, 05:43:00 pm: At least at Zeppelin tribute shows, you don't get drunk-ass yuppies and overgrown frat boys dancing around and singing along to the music!
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Post by: markie on January 14, 2003, 05:58:00 pm: <BLOCKQUOTE>quote:<HR>Originally posted by Celeste: It's about the MUSIC, man...not about the rock STAR... <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>I have been to a couple of tribute bands and just felt dirty. It was too much like pretending. I think I would rather just see a band perform a whole slew of different artists songs than pretend to be someone else. I hate that.Although Pink Floyd and Led Zep would be better tribute bands than Neil diamond.
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Post by: ggw on January 14, 2003, 06:01:00 pm: <BLOCKQUOTE>quote:<HR>Originally posted by markie: I have been to a couple of tribute bands and just felt dirty. It was too much like pretending. I think I would rather just see a band perform a whole slew of different artists songs than pretend to be someone else. I hate that. <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>There goes my plan to repackage you as MarkieWK......
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Post by: markie on January 14, 2003, 06:04:00 pm: <BLOCKQUOTE>quote:<HR>Originally posted by ggw: There goes my plan to repackage you as MarkieWK......<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>I could never manage the high kicks or keep a straight face.But I guess when one career finishes another must begin...... (http://webpages.marshall.edu/~kitamura1/11319645.jpg) nice shirt BTW
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Post by: Fico on January 14, 2003, 06:31:00 pm: Anyone seen the Bootleg Beatles???they seem like a proper cover band.
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Post by: Henry Dark on January 14, 2003, 06:54:00 pm: You would in a college town.QUOTE]Originally posted by Celeste: At least at Zeppelin tribute shows, you don't get drunk-ass yuppies and overgrown frat boys dancing around and singing along to the music! [/QUOTE]
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Post by: Herr Professor Doktor Doom on January 15, 2003, 01:03:00 am: I can't imagine what you're talking about. Zeppelin is one of the main staples of classic rock, which in turn is the basic musical fodder for a whole generation of yuppies and overgrown fratboys. Who else would go to a Zeppelin tribute? <BLOCKQUOTE>quote:<HR>Originally posted by Celeste: At least at Zeppelin tribute shows, you don't get drunk-ass yuppies and overgrown frat boys dancing around and singing along to the music! <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>
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Post by: G.Love on January 15, 2003, 08:13:00 am: anybody ever see Dread Zepplin - the Reggae Zepplin tribute band with a Elvis clone on vocals. Now they were a frat boy band!
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Post by: Celeste on January 15, 2003, 10:28:00 am: <BLOCKQUOTE>quote:<HR>Originally posted by Doctor Doom: I can't imagine what you're talking about. Zeppelin is one of the main staples of classic rock, which in turn is the basic musical fodder for a whole generation of yuppies and overgrown fratboys. Who else would go to a Zeppelin tribute? <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>there is a whole world out there that does not follow the demographic model of the DC metro area...for example, my experiences seeing these types of cover bands in the midwest included crowds of mostly working class blue collar folks...so I guess it all depends
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Post by: jadetree on January 15, 2003, 10:33:00 am: <BLOCKQUOTE>quote:<HR>Originally posted by Celeste: there is a whole world out there that does not follow the demographic model of the DC metro area...for example, my experiences seeing these types of cover bands in the midwest included crowds of mostly working class blue collar folks...so I guess it all depends<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>I have never been to a Zep cover show, but I would have to agree with you there, when I think of Zep fans in Missouri they are not frat boy types
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Post by: Henry Dark on January 15, 2003, 10:39:00 am: Blue collar=classic rock where I grew up. I don't even think I heard the word "yuppie" growing up in Upstate NY. Then again, I was probably done growing up before the word ever existed, I'm so old.
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Post by: G.Love on January 15, 2003, 12:20:00 pm: <BLOCKQUOTE>quote:<HR>Originally posted by Henry Dark: Blue collar=classic rock where I grew up. I don't even think I heard the word "yuppie" growing up in Upstate NY. <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>Hey what a coincident, Rhett grew up in Upstate NY, maybe you know him!What if the a couple of band members go off and continue to do songs from the original band but no new stuff, are they a cover band? for example Rossington-Collins band doing all the Lynryd Skynyrd tunes, or Roger Waters after Floyd, or David Weave Roth? I would say the singer is the one that gives it authenticity, because the other musicians can be easily immitated.
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Post by: Henry Dark on January 15, 2003, 12:25:00 pm: Actually, Rhett Miller grew up in Dallas, Texas. His dad is a lawyer, and he went to a private school, so I doubt he had much in common with the blue collar set. You bring up an interesting point in your second paragraph. What about bands where someone other than the lead singer is the principal songwriter. Take Los Lobos for example. The percussionist is the guy who writes most of the lyrics, not the two guys who sing the songs. If the two singers went dolo and did Los Lobos songs, would they have more credibility than Los Lobos with different singers? <BLOCKQUOTE>quote:<HR>Originally posted by G.Love: Hey what a coincident, Rhett grew up in Upstate NY, maybe you know him!What if the a couple of band members go off and continue to do songs from the original band but no new stuff, are they a cover band? for example Rossington-Collins band doing all the Lynryd Skynyrd tunes, or Roger Waters after Floyd, or David Weave Roth? I would say the singer is the one that gives it authenticity, because the other musicians can be easily immitated.<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>
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Post by: ratioci nation on January 15, 2003, 12:28:00 pm: Jerry Cantrell was the main songwriter for Alice in Chains yet is having trouble finding as much success without Layne.
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Post by: poorlulu on January 15, 2003, 12:32:00 pm: i saw purple reign in vegas..............they were a great prince tribute band.......even better than the real thing
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Post by: markie on January 15, 2003, 12:40:00 pm: Poorlulu, how drunk were you/would you have paid to see them?
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Post by: poorlulu on January 15, 2003, 12:42:00 pm: well i dont know ........i never thought about it.............my husband said he'd pay 20 bones to see em at black cat though.........maybe i'd have paid $10.............
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Post by: ggw on January 15, 2003, 12:43:00 pm: (http://www.brianmay.com/kween/image/meetband.jpg) What about Kween -- The Japanese Queen Tribute Band?
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Post by: markie on January 15, 2003, 12:49:00 pm: <BLOCKQUOTE>quote:<HR>Originally posted by poorlulu: 20 bones to see em at black cat though..........<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>20 bones, well there are 206 bones in the human body. So thats nearly 1/10th of a corpse.....Which is amusing as most tribute bands seem to be flogging a dead horse, and I have no idea how many bones a horse contains.
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Post by: poorlulu on January 15, 2003, 12:51:00 pm: kween are kwool..............
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Post by: Celeste on January 15, 2003, 01:23:00 pm: <BLOCKQUOTE>quote:<HR>Originally posted by G.Love: I would say the singer is the one that gives it authenticity, because the other musicians can be easily immitated.<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>to a degree, yes, but if the band members are especially skilled at playing, or the music is more complex, then, the band members are not so easily imitated...like when Rhett Miller of the Old 97s played solo with his little temporary band The Instigators and they did some Old 97s songs, it was fun, but much was missing musically!
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Post by: jadetree on January 15, 2003, 02:05:00 pm: <BLOCKQUOTE>quote:<HR>Originally posted by markie: I have no idea how many bones a horse contains.<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>205
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Post by: Fico on January 15, 2003, 02:17:00 pm: <BLOCKQUOTE>quote:<HR>Originally posted by Celeste: to a degree, yes, but if the band members are especially skilled at playing, or the music is more complex, then, the band members are not so easily imitated...like when Rhett Miller of the Old 97s played solo with his little temporary band The Instigators and they did some Old 97s songs, it was fun, but much was missing musically!<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>Rhett Miller should drop the make-up and become Ryan Adam's roadie..maybe then some real rockstardom and talent might rub off on him...
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Post by: Henry Dark on January 15, 2003, 02:35:00 pm: Fico, just now jumping on the Ryan Adams bandwagon. Fico, where were you in 1997?
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Post by: Celeste on January 15, 2003, 02:37:00 pm: <BLOCKQUOTE>quote:<HR>Originally posted by Fico: Rhett Miller should drop the make-up and become Ryan Adam's roadie..maybe then some real rockstardom and talent might rub off on him...<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>psst...cover yourself....your bad taste is showing
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Post by: markie on January 15, 2003, 02:57:00 pm: <BLOCKQUOTE>quote:<HR>Originally posted by Celeste: psst...cover yourself....your bad taste is showing<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>Yeah too right, anybody who likes alt-country acts obviously has bad taste.
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Post by: Celeste on January 15, 2003, 03:26:00 pm: what-ever! UFO boy ; )
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Post by: Jaguär on January 15, 2003, 05:45:00 pm: <BLOCKQUOTE>quote:<HR>Originally posted by jadetree: 205<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>So Anatomy Boy, what is the extra bone that we humans have that a horse doesn't have?
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Post by: Jaguär on January 15, 2003, 05:48:00 pm: <BLOCKQUOTE>quote:<HR>Originally posted by Celeste: psst...cover yourself....your bad taste is showing<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>I think he's talking British again.
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Post by: markie on January 15, 2003, 05:55:00 pm: crap picture[This message has been edited by markie (edited 01-15-2003).]
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Post by: ratioci nation on January 15, 2003, 05:57:00 pm: nm[This message has been edited by ratioci nation (edited 01-15-2003).]
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Post by: jadetree on January 15, 2003, 06:07:00 pm: <A HREF="http://www.horse-directory.co.uk/popquiz.htm" TARGET=_blank>http://www.horse-directory.co.uk/popquiz.htm[/url]
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Post by: markie on January 15, 2003, 06:07:00 pm: <BLOCKQUOTE>quote:<HR>Originally posted by markie: I dont know where Jadetree got 205 from, but horses are fairly different from people.... (http://biology.uoregon.edu/classes/Bi355f01/topics%2001/topics01.jpgs/08%20horse%20figs%20jpegs/horse%20skeleton.jpeg) horses dont have as many bones in their hands and feet, hooves....but they have a tail and more ones in their backs.<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>
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Post by: jadetree on January 15, 2003, 06:10:00 pm: <BLOCKQUOTE>quote:<HR>Originally posted by markie: I dont know where Jadetree got 205 from, but horses are fairly different from people....<HR></BLOCKQUOTE> <A HREF="http://www.horse-directory.co.uk/popquiz.htm" TARGET=_blank>http://www.horse-directory.co.uk/popquiz.htm[/url]
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Post by: markie on January 15, 2003, 06:11:00 pm: <BLOCKQUOTE>quote:<HR>Originally posted by jadetree: Jadetree <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>Strange that you are so into horses.....
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Post by: jadetree on January 15, 2003, 06:27:00 pm: <BLOCKQUOTE>quote:<HR>Originally posted by markie: Strange that you are so into horses.....<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>I call my horse Google
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Post by: markie on January 15, 2003, 06:28:00 pm: <BLOCKQUOTE>quote:<HR>Originally posted by jadetree: I call my horse Google<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>I call mine Lisa
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Post by: ggw on January 22, 2003, 03:57:00 pm: R. Kelly Arrested on Fla. Porn Charges January 22, 2003 MIAMI - R. Kelly, already facing child pornography charges in Illinois, was arrested Wednesday in Florida on additional child pornography charges after investigators said they found 12 photographs of a nude girl at the singer's home. Kelly, whose first name is Robert, was arrested without incident at a Miami-Dade County hotel. He was being held at the county jail. Bond was set at $12,000. The Grammy award-winning artist has been out on bond and awaiting trial on 21 counts of child pornography in Chicago. Those charges stem from a videotape authorities say shows him having sex with a 13-year-old girl. Kelly, 36, has denied that charge. Col. Grady Judd of the Polk County Sheriff's Office told WSVN-TV that three photos show Kelly having sex with a female under 18. In the other nine photos, the female is nude. He said the photos were found last June during a search of a home Kelly rented in Davenport after he was arrested there on the Illinois warrant. Davenport, in Polk County, is about 35 miles southwest of Orlando. The R&B singer is known for hits ranging from the Grammy-winning, gospel-like "I Believe I Can Fly" to sexually charged material such as "Bump 'n' Grind," "Feelin' On Yo Booty" and "Your Body's Callin'." The Illinois investigation began after the Chicago Sun-Times reported last February that it had received the tape anonymously and passed it along to Chicago police. Kelly also has been the focus of at least four lawsuits, three of which accuse him of having sex with underage girls. He has acknowledged settling two of the lawsuits regarding underage sex, but his lawyers have said they will fight the third. Kelly's new album, "Chocolate Factory," is scheduled to be released in February. He was nominated for a Grammy earlier this month for the song "The World's Greatest," from the "Ali" soundtrack.
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Post by: Relaxer on January 22, 2003, 05:44:00 pm: <BLOCKQUOTE>quote:<HR>Originally posted by poorlulu: i saw purple reign in vegas..............they were a great prince tribute band.......even better than the real thing<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>YES!!!! Slightly late response, but I also saw Purple Reign in Vegas last year and fully agree that they do Prince better than Prince. In fact, we saw them play three nights in a row and then partied with them after the 3rd show. I had a little smoochy-smoochy with the sassy dancer too, which was way beyond any of my expectations because she was so very very fine. It definitely made the list of the top 5 nights of my life.And the best part? I leave tomorrow for a weekend in Vegas. (rubs hands feverishly) No expectations with the lovely lady, but I can't wait to see "Prince" rock out. Did you happen to notice that his chest hair was made up of implants? I was fascinated by that guy.
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Post by: poorlulu on January 22, 2003, 05:59:00 pm: <BLOCKQUOTE>quote:<HR>Originally posted by Relaxer: I had a little smoochy-smoochy with the sassy dancer too, which was way beyond any of my expectations because she was so very very fine. . <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>wow she was pretty hot.......markie will be most jealous........i can't believe the chest implant thing............very, very scary
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Post by: eltee on July 20, 2006, 05:12:00 pm: Nothing like time travel...I miss Celeste.