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Title: french kicks and idlewild
Post by: megs on January 17, 2003, 04:30:00 pm: oh joy! have just looked at the french kicks website to discover that not only will they be touring our lovely east coast soon, but will be on tour with idlewild in march!!! perhaps someone already mentioned this in one of the idlewild threads, but i think such good news bears repeating.
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Post by: kurosawa-b/w on January 17, 2003, 05:52:00 pm: Yes, isn't that great news?? Cannot wait!
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Post by: indiEmily on January 22, 2003, 12:23:00 am: Do you know if the french kicks are coming to 9:30 or black cat, my good god I hope they don't play at a 21 and over club...
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Post by: wingelbert humptyback on January 22, 2003, 12:39:00 am: <BLOCKQUOTE>quote:<HR>Originally posted by indiEmily: Do you know if the french kicks are coming to 9:30 or black cat, my good god I hope they don't play at a 21 and over club... <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>My bet is on that show being at the 930 club, but chances are that it won't be 21+ regardless of where it is. I definitely don't see it happening at the Velvet Lounge or anything.
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Post by: twangirl on January 23, 2003, 04:23:00 pm: Idlewild w/ French Kicks are at Fletcher's on March 8. Tickets will go on sale on February 5 via Ticketmaster.
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Post by: wingelbert humptyback on January 23, 2003, 04:25:00 pm: <BLOCKQUOTE>quote:<HR>Originally posted by twangirl: Idlewild w/ French Kicks are at Fletcher's on March 8. Tickets will go on sale on February 5 via Ticketmaster.<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>holy crap is that a small venue for idlewild! that's going to be quite a step up in intimacy from the shows i've seen them perform in the past.
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Post by: Fico on January 23, 2003, 04:32:00 pm: <BLOCKQUOTE>quote:<HR>Originally posted by twangirl: Idlewild w/ French Kicks are at Fletcher's on March 8. Tickets will go on sale on February 5 via Ticketmaster.<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>Fletchers=Baltimore=me not going (http://www.930.com/ubb/frown.gif)
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Post by: wingelbert humptyback on January 23, 2003, 04:38:00 pm: <BLOCKQUOTE>quote:<HR>Originally posted by Fico: Fletchers=Baltimore=me not going (http://www.930.com/ubb/frown.gif)<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>baltimore is... well, baltimore. but this is idlewild we're talking about.
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Post by: jadetree on January 23, 2003, 04:42:00 pm: <BLOCKQUOTE>quote:<HR>Originally posted by wingelbert humptyback: baltimore is... well, baltimore. but this is idlewild we're talking about. <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>I have tried several times, I still have yet to understand everyone's high opinion of Idlewild. Above average, yes, special, no IMHO.
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Post by: wingelbert humptyback on January 23, 2003, 05:03:00 pm: <BLOCKQUOTE>quote:<HR>Originally posted by jadetree: I have tried several times, I still have yet to understand everyone's high opinion of Idlewild. Above average, yes, special, no IMHO.<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>Yeah, a lot of people seem to fall into either one of two groups: Those that are highly enamored and those that are at least slightly perplexed by everyone else's fascination with the band (the latter still being the much larger group at this point).personally, i really have trouble articulating what it is that makes me obsess with idlewild. i think a lot of it has to do with the fact i hear shades of so many great artists in their music (the smiths, fugazi, etc), but they still manage to make it feel new and interesting. that coupled with the passion they pour into what they do and the fact they seem to grow in leaps and bounds with every release really sells them. okay, maybe i don't have too much trouble articulating it... i'll stop now.
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Post by: markie on January 23, 2003, 06:09:00 pm: I dont obsess about idlewild, but they have made a couple of good albums and put on a good show, which is more than you can say for a lot of bands.Anyone want to give me and wifey a lift?
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Post by: wingelbert humptyback on January 23, 2003, 06:54:00 pm: <BLOCKQUOTE>quote:<HR>Originally posted by markie: I dont obsess about idlewild, but they have made a couple of good albums and put on a good show, which is more than you can say for a lot of bands.Anyone want to give me and wifey a lift?<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>Well, "obsess" is a very strong word that in retrospect I probably could've avoided. But I am definitely a firm believer in the quality of their music. In actuality, I am far too lazy to truly obsess over anything other than sleeping.
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Post by: Fico on January 23, 2003, 07:13:00 pm: <BLOCKQUOTE>quote:<HR>Originally posted by markie: I dont obsess about idlewild, but they have made a couple of good albums and put on a good show, which is more than you can say for a lot of bands.Anyone want to give me and wifey a lift?<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>Markie, if you want to rent a car and split it 3 ways, or however many ways depending on people coming, i'm all fer it...
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Post by: Cernunnos on January 23, 2003, 09:01:00 pm: Markie, where are you guys at again? I'm in Rockville now, and work in NoVA, so POSSIBLY that could be arranged. Plus, I live across the street from Shady Grove metro, so conceivably you could take that over, but I don't know what you'd do to get back. Dammit, why the hell are they playing Fletchers and not the Black Cat? That sucks royal balls. They BETTER come back and play a few months later, when the record company gets off their ass and starts promoting them (I've already gotten a few friends hooked via "A Modern Way of Letting Go" and "I Am What I Am Not"
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Post by: kurosawa-b/w on January 24, 2003, 05:30:00 pm: Dates confirmed so far are the following. (Possible more to follow?) 5TH MARCH BOSTON MA, PARADISE 6TH MARCH NEW YORK, IRVING PLAZA 8TH MARCH BALTIMORE MD, FLETCHER'S 10TH MARCH ATLANTA GA, ECHO LOUNGE 14TH MARCH AUSTIN TX, SXSW 20TH MARCH CHAMPAIGN IL, HIGHDIVE 21ST MARCH CHICAGO IL, DOUBLE DOOR I think they will be spending quite a bit of 2003 over here so if certain cities aren't covered this time, they will be in the next leg.
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Post by: Cernunnos on January 25, 2003, 01:26:00 am: We can only hope Kurosawa. I'm still awaiting/dreading when I hear some of their stuff on HFS, because I know if they make it that far, I can give up on seeing them live again since then I'll have to put up w/ stupid teenyboppers at their shows.
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Post by: kurosawa-b/w on January 26, 2003, 02:54:00 pm: Another date: 7TH MARCH PHILADELPHIA, PA THEATRE OF LIVING ARTS
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Post by: kosmo vinyl on January 27, 2003, 10:23:00 am: while in boston seeing morcheba this weekend i was excicted to see a flyer for their boston date, meaning info on the dc show wasn't far behind.although fletchers is smelly and has middling sound, it will great to see them in an intimate venue. and one best get ducets quick for this one.
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Post by: Cernunnos on January 27, 2003, 06:18:00 pm: Yeah, post something here once tix are onsale. They might go relatively quick.
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Post by: Samantha on January 27, 2003, 07:26:00 pm: <BLOCKQUOTE>quote:<HR>Originally posted by indiEmily: Do you know if the french kicks are coming to 9:30 or black cat, my good god I hope they don't play at a 21 and over club... <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>are you all going to eternally poke fun of her for always hoping shows are @ 9:30 or Black Cat? I hope so.
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Post by: JaguÃ¤r on January 27, 2003, 08:08:00 pm: <BLOCKQUOTE>quote:<HR>Originally posted by Samantha: are you all going to eternally poke fun of her for always hoping shows are @ 9:30 or Black Cat? I hope so.<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>Not to mention, they are the best clubs in town.
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Post by: paige on January 27, 2003, 08:10:00 pm: <BLOCKQUOTE>quote:<HR>Originally posted by JaguÃ¤r: Not to mention, they are the best clubs in town.<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>yeah its not like people are screaming to go to jaxx for any shows every day of the week.
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Post by: twangirl on January 27, 2003, 09:36:00 pm: Hey now Kosmo, Fletcher's ain't that smelly...certainly nowhere near the old 9:30, which was legendary for its smell. And the sound is damn good for a small club...a lot depends on the band and their engineer.
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Post by: kosmo vinyl on January 27, 2003, 10:42:00 pm: it's the smell of cancer sticks i was referring to... my clothes reek of the stuff after a show in that smoke box. and the sound is deffo better there, at least for the last couple of shows i went to. (Starbelly CD release and Jesus Jones) actually told the sound guy he did a great job.
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Post by: wingelbert humptyback on January 27, 2003, 10:52:00 pm: <BLOCKQUOTE>quote:<HR>Originally posted by twangirl: Hey now Kosmo, Fletcher's ain't that smelly...certainly nowhere near the old 9:30, which was legendary for its smell. And the sound is damn good for a small club...a lot depends on the band and their engineer.<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>i actually loved that smell. i always made a point of not washing any shirts i ended up buying from shows there. cut me a break, i was stupid and young. mainly stupid.
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Post by: lily1 on January 27, 2003, 11:06:00 pm: ditto <BLOCKQUOTE>quote:<HR>Originally posted by Fico: Fletchers=Baltimore=me not going (http://www.930.com/ubb/frown.gif)<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>
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Post by: sparklygirl on January 27, 2003, 11:36:00 pm: <BLOCKQUOTE>quote:<HR>Originally posted by kosmo: while in boston seeing morcheba this weekend i was excicted to see a flyer for their boston date, meaning info on the dc show wasn't far behind. .<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>Hmm i dunno, i don't think many bands play dc and baltimore on the same tour. grrr, philly and b'more are like only an hour apart! i bet more people would see em in dc too. sucks :/
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Post by: kosmo vinyl on January 28, 2003, 11:13:00 am: <BLOCKQUOTE>quote:<HR>Originally posted by Fico: Fletchers=Baltimore=me not going (http://www.930.com/ubb/frown.gif)<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>well as it gets nearer to the show, maybe we can arrange some carpools. i live tres near the greenbelt metro and will have room for two in ned the mini. (who will be re-christened jez that night)
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Post by: Charlie Nakatestes, Japanese Golfer on January 28, 2003, 11:28:00 am: Sorry, Iota is the best club in town. Smaller, more intimate, good sound, great bands. Now if they could only get rid of the beam... <BLOCKQUOTE>quote:<HR>Originally posted by JaguÃ¤r: Not to mention, they are the best clubs in town.<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>
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Post by: Cernunnos on January 28, 2003, 06:41:00 pm: Yeah, but Philly is a pain in the ass to get to if you work during the week (unless you work/live N. or Baltimore, and even then...). Unless you take off hours early (or are willing to miss an opener) you have not one but TWO rush hours to contend with.
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Post by: paige on January 28, 2003, 06:58:00 pm: <BLOCKQUOTE>quote:<HR>Originally posted by wingelbert humptyback: i actually loved that smell. i always made a point of not washing any shirts i ended up buying from shows there. cut me a break, i was stupid and young. mainly stupid.<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>and really unhygienic.
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Post by: wingelbert humptyback on January 28, 2003, 10:41:00 pm: <BLOCKQUOTE>quote:<HR>Originally posted by paige: and really unhygienic. <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>well, i did wash them eventually. just had to wear them once first. but i'd still agree that hygiene wasn't one of my strong points at that stage in my development.
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Post by: paige on January 28, 2003, 11:15:00 pm: <BLOCKQUOTE>quote:<HR>Originally posted by wingelbert humptyback: well, i did wash them eventually. just had to wear them once first. but i'd still agree that hygiene wasn't one of my strong points at that stage in my development. <HR></BLOCKQUOTE> so you were the smelly kid everybody made fun of? aw man, i'm sorry
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Post by: wingelbert humptyback on January 29, 2003, 03:26:00 am: <BLOCKQUOTE>quote:<HR>Originally posted by paige: so you were the smelly kid everybody made fun of? aw man, i'm sorry <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>They were making fun of me because I smell? My mom always told me they were just jealous of my chiseled physique and devilish good looks. I feel so betrayed. Thanks for ruining my relationship with my mom. And on her birthday of all days.
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Post by: kurosawa-b/w on January 31, 2003, 05:44:00 pm: It's official. The Baltimore show is the ONLY area date this time around. (They are playing in Carrboro, NC the 9th.) Hopefully, they will be back in the Summer or later in the year.
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Post by: wingelbert humptyback on January 31, 2003, 05:54:00 pm: <BLOCKQUOTE>quote:<HR>Originally posted by kurosawa-b/w: It's official. The Baltimore show is the ONLY area date this time around. (They are playing in Carrboro, NC the 9th.) Hopefully, they will be back in the Summer or later in the year.<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>I can deal with that. Fletcher's will be the smallest venue i've seen them at yet, so I am actually excited it's happening in Baltimore.
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Post by: markie on January 31, 2003, 05:55:00 pm: <BLOCKQUOTE>quote:<HR>Originally posted by kurosawa-b/w: It's official. The Baltimore show is the ONLY area date this time around. (They are playing in Carrboro, NC the 9th.) Hopefully, they will be back in the Summer or later in the year.<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>are tickets on sale yet?I'll buy your ticket and gas for a ride......?
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Post by: kosmo vinyl on January 31, 2003, 06:03:00 pm: email me... we can figure something out for sure
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Post by: markie on January 31, 2003, 06:04:00 pm: alright I am on it.......well I would be, but your email isnt in your profile.....perhaps you could email my wifey.thanks[This message has been edited by markie (edited 01-31-2003).]
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Post by: kurosawa-b/w on January 31, 2003, 06:06:00 pm: <BLOCKQUOTE>quote:<HR>Originally posted by markie: are tickets on sale yet?I'll buy your ticket and gas for a ride......?<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>I'm sorry. I will be coming back from Philly, so I can't offer any rides. Otherwise, I would have. I'm sure someone else will help you out.I agree that this small venue will be a treat! I saw them at a really small space in England, and it was super. I was just feeling greedy and hoping they would be in the area two days rather than one.
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Post by: Dandy01 on January 31, 2003, 06:09:00 pm: <BLOCKQUOTE>quote:<HR>Originally posted by twangirl: Idlewild w/ French Kicks are at Fletcher's on March 8. Tickets will go on sale on February 5 via Ticketmaster.<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>According to this, tix aren't on sale yet.
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Post by: markie on January 31, 2003, 06:15:00 pm: <BLOCKQUOTE>quote:<HR>Originally posted by kurosawa-b/w: I agree that this small venue will be a treat! I saw them at a really small space in England, and it was super. I was just feeling greedy and hoping they would be in the area two days rather than one.<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>Ok, thanks for the thought! It will be interesting to see how they do. Some British bands seem to relish getting back to a small space, others resent it.....I just hope the manage to get a decent sound in that odd place.
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Post by: markie on January 31, 2003, 06:16:00 pm: <BLOCKQUOTE>quote:<HR>Originally posted by Dandy01: According to this, tix aren't on sale yet.<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>OK thanks, that was what I was wondering!Now if only Brassy would come back as well I would be truely happy.
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Post by: jadetree on January 31, 2003, 06:18:00 pm: <BLOCKQUOTE>quote:<HR>Originally posted by markie: OK thanks, that was what I was wondering!Now if only Brassy would come back as well I would be truely happy.<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>I still find it hard to believe you like Brassy more than JSBX.
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Post by: ggw on January 31, 2003, 06:19:00 pm: <BLOCKQUOTE>quote:<HR>Originally posted by markie: OK thanks, that was what I was wondering!Now if only Brassy would come back as well I would be truely happy.<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>Were you at that Brassy & Idlewild show?There were really no more than 75 people there. Idlewild played like 30 minutes and split. If I go to Charm City, I hope they put a little more into it.
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Post by: markie on January 31, 2003, 06:31:00 pm: <BLOCKQUOTE>quote:<HR>Originally posted by ggw: Were you at that Brassy & Idlewild show?There were really no more than 75 people there. Idlewild played like 30 minutes and split. If I go to Charm City, I hope they put a little more into it.<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>yes we were there. I thought it was a great show. Idlewild sounded so much better that time than the time before. You could even hear not only the lead vocals but also the 2ndry vocal.I liked Brassy too. so why didnt you offer to give us a lift to "charm city" in the G-Wagon
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Post by: markie on January 31, 2003, 06:33:00 pm: <BLOCKQUOTE>quote:<HR>Originally posted by jadetree: I still find it hard to believe you like Brassy more than JSBX.<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>a bit like chalk and cheese arent they?hip hip female singervs rock male singer Cant say I have listened to muck JSBX recorded material the rather dull show put me off.Brassys show was so good and fun that I bought the album and enjoy it repeatedly.
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Post by: jadetree on January 31, 2003, 06:35:00 pm: <BLOCKQUOTE>quote:<HR>Originally posted by markie: hip hip female singer <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>that hip huh?
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Post by: kosmo vinyl on January 31, 2003, 06:37:00 pm: <BLOCKQUOTE>quote:<HR>Originally posted by markie: alright I am on it.......well I would be, but your email isnt in your profile.....perhaps you could email my wifey.thanks[This message has been edited by markie (edited 01-31-2003).]<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>email on its way... and go north if you seek my email address
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Post by: markie on January 31, 2003, 06:39:00 pm: <BLOCKQUOTE>quote:<HR>Originally posted by jadetree: that hip huh?<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>ere that was meant to be hip-hopbut I am sure you know already.
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Post by: kosmo vinyl on January 31, 2003, 06:39:00 pm: <BLOCKQUOTE>quote:<HR>Originally posted by ggw: Were you at that Brassy & Idlewild show?There were really no more than 75 people there. Idlewild played like 30 minutes and split. If I go to Charm City, I hope they put a little more into it.<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>idlewild torn irving plaza to shreds in nyc last year... they have really mutured as a live act.
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Post by: kurosawa-b/w on January 31, 2003, 06:39:00 pm: The band is very happy to be returning to the US, so I think it should be a good tour. GGW, I seem to recall that you like the new album. If that's still true, then you should definitely catch the show. The new songs are excellent live, and they will certainly play longer than 30 mins.
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Post by: ggw on January 31, 2003, 06:40:00 pm: <BLOCKQUOTE>quote:<HR>Originally posted by markie: yes we were there. I thought it was a great show. Idlewild sounded so much better that time than the time before. You could even hear not only the lead vocals but also the 2ndry vocal.I liked Brassy too. so why didnt you offer to give us a lift to "charm city" in the G-Wagon<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>What was the first time? I saw them at the club in May (I think) 2001. They were the headliners. Wasn't that the Brassy show? Then they came through again a couple of months later opening for someone else -- I didn't see them the 2nd time.I haven't decided if I'm going. It's a Saturday, so I will probably end up going. And I would be happy to give you and your better half a ride in mein Galaendewagen.
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Post by: kosmo vinyl on January 31, 2003, 06:46:00 pm: <BLOCKQUOTE>quote:<HR>Originally posted by twangirl: Idlewild w/ French Kicks are at Fletcher's on March 8. Tickets will go on sale on February 5 via Ticketmaster.<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>are fletchers tickets still available at soundgarden?
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Post by: markie on January 31, 2003, 06:47:00 pm: <BLOCKQUOTE>quote:<HR>Originally posted by ggw: And I would be happy to give you and your better half a ride in mein Galaendewagen.<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>thanks! I am spoilt now though. I think Ksmo offered first. I like his mini better than your tank, but I guess they are all German at heart. Idlewild played twice, that we agree on. I thought the Brassy show was the second time. My reasoning being we almost didnt go as they were not very good the two times we saw them before.Plus they got co-billing the second time, but not the first.....
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Post by: Relaxer on January 31, 2003, 06:51:00 pm: I think Idlewild opened for Placebo and then did their show with Brassy. Could be wrong, but that's how I remember it.
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Post by: kosmo vinyl on January 31, 2003, 06:54:00 pm: <BLOCKQUOTE>quote:<HR>Originally posted by Relaxer: I think Idlewild opened for Placebo and then did their show with Brassy. Could be wrong, but that's how I remember it. <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>with brassy first placebo second
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Post by: markie on January 31, 2003, 06:59:00 pm: I dont remember it being Placebo and idlewild......Placebo sucked the last time they played. I thought they were much better when the supported Stabbing westward. But then I prefer their first album.Still I dont think so...
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Post by: markie on January 31, 2003, 07:01:00 pm: Ok I am wrong again.....Placebo Stumble Through Set Of Black Market Music05.14.2001 Brian Molko at Slim's in San Francisco on Sunday. Photo: John Shearer Â SAN FRANCISCO â?? Placebo singer Brian Molko set the tone for Sunday night's show with his first comments to the crowd: "You'll have to indulge me, pretentious f---er that I am." With the help of Molko's between-song banter ("Ladies and gentlemen, my name is Brian Molko, and I am an alcoholic"), the British glam-rockers kept a packed Slim's rocking and moshing for 90 minutes, throwing a few older nuggets into the set, but focusing on their third and most recent album, Black Market Music. They kicked off the set with the melodic "Haemoglobin" and quickly gained momentum via the Without You I'm Nothing rocker "Scared of Girls" and "36 Degrees," the sole offering from their 1996 self-titled debut. When several fans shouted for that album's first single, "Nancy Boy," Molko scoffed, "'Nancy Boy'? In the history of the world, a song as f---ing stupid as 'Nancy Boy' has not been written." The chatty Molko apologized repeatedly for being drunk and proved it by forgetting the first verse of "Every You Every Me," laughing and finally getting back on track by the third verse. Statuesque bassist Stefan Olsdal, who doubled on guitar, filled in vocals on "Without You I'm Nothing," while Molko knelt on the stage, lazily strumming his guitar. The singer returned to the mic to belt out Queens of the Stone Age's "Feel Good Hit of the Summer," which fit the theme of the evening with its mantra of "Nicotine, Valium, Vicodin, marijuana, ecstasy, alcohol," and played a double-whammy for the moshers â?? the back-to-back Black Market singles "Special K" (RealAudio excerpt) and "Taste in Men." Placebo revealed their sweeter side during the ballad "My Sweet Prince," and Molko played piano on "Peeping Tom" and the lilting "Leni," a B-side to "Slave to the Wage." Rapper Justin Warfield, who provided the rapped tirade in "Spite & Malice", returned to add the laundry list from "Feel Good Hit of the Summer" to the final encore, "Pure Morning." The evening began with a short, tight set of vigorous pop-punk from Scottish rockers Idlewild. Despite problems with singer Roddy Woomble's mic, the group tore through 10 songs in 40 minutes, getting the crowd moving with "Little Discourage" (RealAudio excerpt) and "I Don't Have a Map" from their latest album, 100 Broken Windows, released in the U.S. in March. The Placebo/Idlewild tour continues Tuesday at the Palace in Hollywood.
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Post by: kosmo vinyl on January 31, 2003, 07:02:00 pm: <BLOCKQUOTE>quote:<HR>Originally posted by markie: I distinctly remember it being Placebo and idlewild...... <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>i have no problem remembering this show... first time seeing idlewild and a early date with kosmette. idlewild rocked and placebo were decent for a couple songs, they had a fourth guy helping out
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Post by: markie on January 31, 2003, 07:08:00 pm: <BLOCKQUOTE>quote:<HR>Originally posted by kosmo: i have no problem remembering this show... first time seeing idlewild and a early date with kosmette. idlewild rocked and placebo were decent for a couple songs, they had a fourth guy helping out<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>your memory is better than mine then.I think I am trying to blank out how dissappointing placebo were the second time. I guess I really like their first album and not much else.
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Post by: kurosawa-b/w on February 01, 2003, 12:13:00 pm: Good God. Check out the set list from one of Idlewild's recent shows. I may actually get to hear You Just Have to Be Who You Are! (Better Stranger is a new, unrecorded song.) It's an amazing mix from all their albums.-------- You Just Have to Be Who You Are (I Am) What I Am Not Better Stranger You Held the World in Your Arms I Am a Message Annihilate Now Live in a Hiding Place A Modern Way of Letting Go When I Argue I See Shapes Rusty Happy to Be Here Tonight Century After Century A Film for the Future Roseability American English -- Little Discourage Listen to What You've Got In Remote Part
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Post by: Fico on February 01, 2003, 01:04:00 pm: <BLOCKQUOTE>quote:<HR>Originally posted by kurosawa-b/w: Good God. Check out the set list from one of Idlewild's recent shows. I may actually get to hear You Just Have to Be Who You Are! (Better Stranger is a new, unrecorded song.) It's an amazing mix from all their albums.-------- You Just Have to Be Who You Are (I Am) What I Am Not Better Stranger You Held the World in Your Arms I Am a Message Annihilate Now Live in a Hiding Place A Modern Way of Letting Go When I Argue I See Shapes Rusty Happy to Be Here Tonight Century After Century A Film for the Future Roseability American English -- Little Discourage Listen to What You've Got In Remote Part<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>this setlist seems very light on material from 100 broken windows... bummer.
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Post by: Relaxer on February 03, 2003, 09:15:00 am: Am I being stupid and not finding this show on the calendar or did it sell out or... is it off? I finally decided I want to go, but now I can't find it on the 9:30 site.
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Post by: Joymonster on February 03, 2003, 09:30:00 am: <BLOCKQUOTE>quote:<HR>Originally posted by Relaxer: Am I being stupid and not finding this show on the calendar or did it sell out or... is it off? I finally decided I want to go, but now I can't find it on the 9:30 site. <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>How about March 8th @Fletchers?
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Post by: Relaxer on February 03, 2003, 09:37:00 am: Ahh, gotcha. I had it in my mind that it was *this* Saturday. So it's March 8, and because of that, it's not posted on the 9:30 web site? Are tix on sale yet? Sorry if I'm missing what's alread been discussed. I could have sworn I saw the date posted on the site last week.
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Post by: kurosawa-b/w on February 04, 2003, 07:36:00 pm: Tickets are on sale now. Check out how much the Ticketmaster fee is... But Idlewild is worth it.
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Post by: kosmo vinyl on February 04, 2003, 07:39:00 pm: hey markie, are you still in town? any chance you can swing by the 9:30 boxoffice tonight and score some tickets?
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Post by: Joymonster on February 04, 2003, 09:45:00 pm: GEEZUS!You gotta get your dollars on if you're going to buy those Idlewild tickets through Ticketmaster. This one is for the 9:30 box office!
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Post by: Ehm-ily on February 04, 2003, 09:58:00 pm: Wow..my dad just bought me 3 tickets!But, when he handed them to me, I noticed they said "18+ W/ID," Which poses a bit of a problem for me.They should have made the age restrictions more clear...or something. I had never heard this restriction mentioned about this show until I had the tickets in my hands. But I guess that 18+ is a standard for Fletcher's? Never been there before.Ugh...anyhow, that kind of ruined the moment.
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Post by: markie on February 04, 2003, 10:04:00 pm: <BLOCKQUOTE>quote:<HR>Originally posted by kosmo: hey markie, are you still in town? any chance you can swing by the 9:30 boxoffice tonight and score some tickets?<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>Yep and nope....I just got home. I cant say I fancy the walk to the club and back right now. I havent even had my dinner.Sorry.If you cant get to a ticket outlet in the next week, let me know and I will just get the tickets online tonight.......we go tomorrow.
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Post by: kosmo vinyl on February 04, 2003, 10:49:00 pm: i'll get to the boxoffice tomorrow afternoon, no sweat
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Post by: JaguÃ¤r on February 04, 2003, 10:53:00 pm: <BLOCKQUOTE>quote:<HR>Originally posted by markie: a bit like chalk and cheese arent they?hip hip female singervs rock male singer Cant say I have listened to muck JSBX recorded material the rather dull show put me off.Brassys show was so good and fun that I bought the album and enjoy it repeatedly.<HR></BLOCKQUOTE> Interesting bit of info...supposedly, Muffy from Brassy is Jon Spencer's sister.
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Post by: markie on February 04, 2003, 11:08:00 pm: <BLOCKQUOTE>quote:<HR>Originally posted by kosmo: i'll get to the boxoffice tomorrow afternoon, no sweat<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>cool thanks. I will repay you later.....
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Post by: redsock on February 05, 2003, 04:30:00 pm: Correct me if I'm wrong, but can't we buy Fletcher's tickets at 930 box office, minus the over the top ticketwhore charge?
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Post by: Relaxer on February 05, 2003, 04:35:00 pm: Where are you seeing anything on the Idlewild show? I checked Pollstar and nothing, and I'm not seeing anything on the 9:30 website. Please help?
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Post by: redsock on February 05, 2003, 04:36:00 pm: Go to ticketmaster. Then cry over the convenience charges.
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Post by: kosmo vinyl on February 05, 2003, 04:48:00 pm: <BLOCKQUOTE>quote:<HR>Originally posted by redsock: Correct me if I'm wrong, but can't we buy Fletcher's tickets at 930 box office, minus the over the top ticketwhore charge?<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>thats a big 10-4 little buddy... picked four idlewild tickets at the 9:30 boxoffice today. total $52 verses the $76 it would have cost via ticketbastard. you can also buy them at soundgarden in fells point. don't know about service charges there.
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Post by: kosmo vinyl on February 05, 2003, 04:53:00 pm: <BLOCKQUOTE>quote:<HR>Originally posted by Ehm-ily: Wow..my dad just bought me 3 tickets!But, when he handed them to me, I noticed they said "18+ W/ID," Which poses a bit of a problem for me.They should have made the age restrictions more clear...or something. I had never heard this restriction mentioned about this show until I had the tickets in my hands. But I guess that 18+ is a standard for Fletcher's? Never been there before.Ugh...anyhow, that kind of ruined the moment.<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>Fletcher's age policy depends on the show. It's primarily a 18+ club but every once in awhile there are all ages shows. The age restriction was listed on the front page but I'll admit easily overlooked if one was in a hurry.
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Post by: redsock on February 05, 2003, 04:56:00 pm: <BLOCKQUOTE>quote:<HR>Originally posted by kosmo: thats a big 10-4 little buddy... picked four idlewild tickets at the 9:30 boxoffice today. total $52 verses the $76 it would have cost via ticketbastard. you can also buy them at soundgarden in fells point. don't know about service charges there.<HR></BLOCKQUOTE> Ah, nice! thanks!
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Post by: kosmo vinyl on February 05, 2003, 05:00:00 pm: Ticketbastard must have been bought by Clear Channel or something. I clearly don't understand their service charges. for exampleJohnny Marr $20 ticket + $4.00 service chargeIdlewild $12 ticket + $7.00 service chargeTicketmaster has appeared to drop the extra charge for shipping and handling by rolling into the service charge instead. Kinda like how Merriweather collects the parking for each ticket sold.Unless there is true competition, when the ticketmaster database is open to other agents to sell tickets through, it should be regulated as the monopoly utility it is.
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Post by: Cernunnos on February 05, 2003, 06:58:00 pm: Damn, looks like I'll have to make a trek down to the club sometime this week for tickets. Thats INSANE to pay over 50% for a "service charge." And they wonder why concert attendance is dropping off?
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Post by: redsock on February 06, 2003, 10:46:00 am: Let's talk about the 930 club Box office woman who not only couldn't find the Idlewild show, but really didn't believe me when I told her it was on the 8th. Now, I have to go back tonite with the city paper in hand and try again, hopefully with a box office clerk who actually believes me. But I'm not bitter.
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Post by: twangirl on February 06, 2003, 03:56:00 pm: Well Redsock, often people are able to find out about shows via band websites and such before they are officially announced, which means ticketmaster does not yet have the information, nor do our box officers. That show is now in the ticketmaster system and already has sold some tickets, so you won't have any problem getting them now.
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Post by: redsock on February 06, 2003, 04:42:00 pm: <BLOCKQUOTE>quote:<HR>Originally posted by twangirl: Well Redsock, often people are able to find out about shows via band websites and such before they are officially announced, which means ticketmaster does not yet have the information, nor do our box officers. That show is now in the ticketmaster system and already has sold some tickets, so you won't have any problem getting them now.<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>I understand what you are saying, and appreciate her situation. Clearly board members had purchased tickets at the box office earlier in the day, so it was slightly frustrating, but in the grand scheme of things, life goes on, and I will still get my tickets.
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Post by: SillyCinnamon on February 06, 2003, 09:56:00 pm: How big is the Fletcher's? I've never been there. I just check the price from ticketmaster and the total charge will be $22.5. That's just insane! I don't know would it possible to get a ticket on the show date.
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Post by: lily1 on February 06, 2003, 10:30:00 pm: fletchers is tiny. perhaps just twice the size of the now sadly departed metro cafe. hold less than 600. maybe less than 500.
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Post by: myuman on February 06, 2003, 10:40:00 pm: Why can't the club (speaking solely the 9:30) take care of it's own ticket distribution? Most don't sell out instantly, so I can't see why some sort of snail mail, low/nil surcharge system can't work. At what point does it become counterproductive to work with ticketmaster/tickets.com. I'm sure I speak for many here saying many times "I don't want to trek to the nearly godforsaken area of the club (just to purchase tickets) and..... the surcharge on a ticket is enough to keep me at home" If this has happened once for me, it's happend 50 times. Yeah... and they (industry) wonder why attendance is down.
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Post by: twangirl on February 07, 2003, 07:23:00 pm: Ticketing is an extremely labor-intensive operation, even using a ticketing agency...doing it ourselves would be an unthinkable amount of work, given the number of shows we have scheduled at any given time. Also, all contracts from booking agencies contain clauses requiring documentation from a licensed, known ticketing agency as to how many tickets were sold. An audit report generated from the ticketing agency, a neutral company, is necessary at settlement to accurately document attendance and, in some cases, to determine how much the artist gets paid.
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Post by: kosmo vinyl on February 07, 2003, 09:50:00 pm: thanks for incite on the ticket agency clause in artist contracts, it helps me to keep things in perspective.a couple suggestions if you can't get to the 9:30 box office. (which by the way takes me roundtrip from station to club about 15 minutes)is call a ticketmaster outlet (i.e. Tower) and find out what the service charge is buying them that way. it could be lower since you don't have to pay the handling charges.secondly, call Sound Garden in Baltimore (410) 563-9011) confirm that they are indeed a boxoffice for Fletchers and findout what the service charge is. I believe tickets are cash only.Drive up to Fells Point and make a day of it. Besides Sound Garden there loads of nice eateries and boutiques to shop in there.
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Post by: kurosawa-b/w on February 22, 2003, 01:14:00 pm: Hey, grotty! A Pittsburgh date has been added to the tour. I can't remember when exactly it is, but it's sometime in late April. Check Pollstar. Maybe this means they will swing by DC as well.
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Post by: chokedamp on February 22, 2003, 04:54:00 pm: i thought fletcher's held even less than 500...like 250 or something.that room is tiny tiny tiny.-m
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Post by: Cernunnos on February 24, 2003, 01:21:00 am: Yeay, got me some tix for Idlewild today! So who all here is going again? I know Kurosawa is a given, she's the only one here who gushes about this band more than me. So, believe it or not, this will be my first Fletchers show. How early do you think I'll have to show up to be somewhere up front?
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Post by: kosmo vinyl on February 24, 2003, 09:41:00 am: well the mini will headed to charm city with kosmette, markie, poorlulu and myself for the show.fletchers is so small that a big guy like you should have no problem working themselves up to the front regardless when you so up.any word on the third act Solea, recently added to the bill?
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Post by: megs on February 24, 2003, 08:32:00 pm: i'll be there!!! though, given that i started this here rambling...it would be rude of me not to. =)
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Post by: kosmo vinyl on February 24, 2003, 08:34:00 pm: megs be sure to check out the thread about the ladytron show... there's a reply from seth you'll want to read (http://www.930.com/ubb/smile.gif)
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Post by: megs on February 24, 2003, 08:41:00 pm: <BLOCKQUOTE>quote:<HR>Originally posted by kosmo: megs be sure to check out the thread about the ladytron show... there's a reply from seth you'll want to read (http://www.930.com/ubb/smile.gif)<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>hmm kosmo it's hard to tell whether you're being sarcastic or sincere...
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Post by: megs on February 24, 2003, 08:46:00 pm: i'm speechless! that is so nice of seth. i had totally resigned myself to keeping my unused ticket stub in a drawer with the rest of my tickets, as a memento of that evil blizzard...and now, well, frankly i want to give him a big old hug! thanks for telling me, kosmo, as i totally wouldn't have noticed it on my own. (http://www.930.com/ubb/smile.gif)
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Post by: kurosawa-b/w on February 25, 2003, 06:38:00 pm: Here's the link to Solea's site: <A HREF="http://www.solea.org/solea.html" TARGET=_blank>http://www.solea.org/solea.html[/url] I haven't listened yet but they are opening for a number of dates. The Natural History is opening for the rest of the dates.Oh and just to clarify. French Kicks are still also opening for all the shows.[This message has been edited by kurosawa-b/w (edited 02-25-2003).]
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Post by: Relaxer on February 25, 2003, 07:28:00 pm: Got my tix last night, looking forward to it. Would like to echo the question posed earlier, since I've not been to this venue either. What time makes sense? Is it a one-level venue? Is the layout comparable to any DC places?
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Post by: kosmo vinyl on February 25, 2003, 08:31:00 pm: Fletchers is "technically" a two level venue, regular bar on first floor and then the club on the second floor for shows. Once you present your ticket on the second floor for the show you are stuck there. (although I think 21+ are allowed once getting stamped to go back downstairs)The venue is approximently the size of the Metro Cafe ... There is area in front of the stage with limited seating on the sides (think the Backbar at the black cat too). Behind the soundboard there is a bar with a few tables and chairs.Whats nice about Fletchers thats unlike the Backbar at the Black Cat, is it has a full soundsystem which rocks. Depending on who is doing the mixing. Because the ceiling and poor ventilation is so low it's a bit of a smokebox. And can get really crowded...
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Post by: kosmo vinyl on February 26, 2003, 11:38:00 am: if you haven't gotten your tickets to the show and are looking for a way to avoid some of the the ticketbastard charges... hop on over to <A HREF="http://www.frenchkicks.com" TARGET=_blank>www.frenchkicks.com[/url] and go to the tour dates page. there you can buy tickets via the musictoday (the same outfit handling the supergrass presale) with a service charge of $2.50
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Post by: kurosawa-b/w on February 26, 2003, 12:21:00 pm: I listened to three Solea tracks at mp3.com and wasn't that impressed. Hopefully, they are better live...
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Post by: wingelbert humptyback on February 26, 2003, 12:51:00 pm: <BLOCKQUOTE>quote:<HR>Originally posted by kurosawa-b/w: I listened to three Solea tracks at mp3.com and wasn't that impressed. Hopefully, they are better live...<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>cripes, i can't even believe they have some on there. that link must be buried / non-existent off their site, because i didn't see it anywhere. as for the tracks, i am definitely with you on this. but i am possibly less hopeful they'll be better live. this music seems pretty unimaginative all around, bordering heavily on modern rock radio fodder. i think they should take jawbreaker off their list of similar artists.[This message has been edited by wingelbert humptyback (edited 02-26-2003).]
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Post by: kurosawa-b/w on February 26, 2003, 03:09:00 pm: <BLOCKQUOTE>quote:<HR>Originally posted by wingelbert humptyback: cripes, i can't even believe they have some on there. that link must be buried / non-existent off their site, because i didn't see it anywhere. as for the tracks, i am definitely with you on this. but i am possibly less hopeful they'll be better live. this music seems pretty unimaginative all around, bordering heavily on modern rock radio fodder. i think they should take jawbreaker off their list of similar artists.<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>There was some reference on the site to mp3.com. Yeah, it sounded very unimaginative. I wonder how they got tagged onto the Idlewild tour? French Kicks, I can understand. (Idlewild toured with The Walkmen who are friends with French Kicks.) But Solea? No idea.
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Post by: twangirl on February 27, 2003, 04:32:00 pm: Timing for the show will most likely be: doors at 9 pm Solea at 9:30 The French Kicks at 10:30 Idlewild at 11:30This could change slightly after contact with the tour manager, but if you make plans based on these times you won't miss anything.
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Post by: markie on February 27, 2003, 04:51:00 pm: Thanks twangirl, you're the best.
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Post by: kurosawa-b/w on March 01, 2003, 10:51:00 am: Capitol Records has finally added Idlewild info to their front page. You can check it out <A HREF="http://www.hollywoodandvine.com" TARGET=_blank>here[/url].
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Post by: autumn on March 01, 2003, 03:00:00 pm: there really is no feasible way to get from DC to the show and back via public transportation, is there?
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Post by: markie on March 01, 2003, 03:04:00 pm: nope, it would be better for you just to rent a car for the night...
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Post by: Cernunnos on March 02, 2003, 03:35:00 am: Oh, you can get back alright... if you feel like braving the streets of Baltimore for about 6 or 7 hours until the buses start running again. Which, by the way, I REALLY wouldn't recommend.