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Title: camera obscura/georgie james roll call
Post by: lily1 on July 09, 2006, 07:25:00 pm
anyone going? anyone know set times? i was thinking 9 for opener and 10 for headliner, but that seems kinda early for the black cat.
Title: Re: camera obscura/georgie james roll call
Post by: Darth Ed on July 09, 2006, 07:30:00 pm
Black Cat shows sometimes end a little earlier on Sundays, I think, so it's possible. Certainly 9 for the opener would be standard for 8:30 doors. Maybe 10:15 or 10:30 at the latest then for Camera Obscura.
 
 Are Georgie James worth catching?
 
 Anyway, I'll be there....
Title: Re: camera obscura/georgie james roll call
Post by: BookerT on July 09, 2006, 07:40:00 pm
i'm guessing 915/1030. it'll barely be dark by 9, seems wrong for the black cat to start a show then.
 
 and yeah, GJ is certainly worth catching. in a couple years they could very well be the band people think of when they think "d.c.," if things go their way.
Title: Re: camera obscura/georgie james roll call
Post by: lily1 on July 09, 2006, 08:14:00 pm
just called the club. opener at 9, headliner at 10.15.
Title: Re: camera obscura/georgie james roll call
Post by: HoyaSaxa03 on July 09, 2006, 11:45:00 pm
i'm so angry i didn't make it out for this, just couldn't make my body move after a long weekend, hope it was great...
Title: Re: camera obscura/georgie james roll call
Post by: lily1 on July 10, 2006, 12:06:00 am
hmmn, sorry about that, apparently that staffer was wrong that i spoke with as the set times were actually 9.30 and 10.45.
 
 there is a guy i see there a lot, perhaps a boardie? i see him enough that at this point, i feel like i should walk up to him and introduce myself and ask if he's a boardie, but if he's not, well then, i'd be seriously embarassed. tall, thin, shaved head, gray or light green shirt (couldn't tell in the light), jeans, smoker, and had motorbike helmet. is that one of you?  
 
 j. freedom du lac was there. anyone else see him? he had a sidekick that was taking down notes for the show. maybe a  washington post intern as his hands had big  black x's on them. so he's eitehr underage or forgot his license.
 
 did someone puke at the bar on the left? they had cones up and there was a slight pukey/sickening sweet smell.
 
 
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Originally posted by lily1:
  just called the club. opener at 9, headliner at 10.15.
Title: Re: camera obscura/georgie james roll call
Post by: HoyaSaxa03 on July 10, 2006, 12:10:00 am
how was the set? did it sell out?
Title: Re: camera obscura/georgie james roll call
Post by: lily1 on July 10, 2006, 12:21:00 am
georgie james played for 45 minutes. liked mostly everything except for one song where it was only here on vocals, rather than all 3. the boy said she reminded him of chrissy hynde.
 
 camera obscura was on for over an hour. was a bit more ambivalent about them, but would definitely give them another whirl. defintely a throwback to mazzy star and the sundays.
 
 i'd say the place was 3/4 full. this is the first i've heard either of them so can't really comment further. just thought the show looked interesting so i picked up tickets last week. good pairing. good show for a sunday night as well.
 
 so yes, you should have gone hoya!  :D
Title: Re: camera obscura/georgie james roll call
Post by: HoyaSaxa03 on July 10, 2006, 12:28:00 am
rats.
Title: Re: camera obscura/georgie james roll call
Post by: lily1 on July 10, 2006, 12:32:00 am
you can catch georgie james next month at august 26's 6th anniversary Bliss party at the black cat.
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Post by: you be betty on July 10, 2006, 12:34:00 am
and they are playing fort reno in a few weeks, too...
Title: Re: camera obscura/georgie james roll call
Post by: slowgraffiti on July 10, 2006, 12:43:00 am
that was my first time in the mainstage. fun show i guess. i think camera obscura was just the way i expected them to be...i think that's good. i just wish i could understand their scottish a little better
 snagged a setlist:
 come back margaret
 i love my jean
 teenager
 false contender
 tears for affairs
 lloyd
 dory previn
 let's get out of this country (it has no apostrophe on the setlist!!!)
 if looks could kill
 country mile
 80's fan
 razzle dazzle rose
 ...
 i need all the friends i can get
 suspended from class
Title: Re: camera obscura/georgie james roll call
Post by: BookerT on July 10, 2006, 12:45:00 am
for some reason i decided to drink heavily at this show, much more so than usual. not sure why. so take most of this with that proverbial grain o' salt. georgie james was good, i've seen 'em better. that room wasn't doing them any favors. lately i've been getting frustrated w/people complaining about the sound at the black cat, i mean, it's a rock show, deal with it, jesus christ. but maybe they have a point. it didn't ruin the performance, but it sounded a bit thin. and the random blasts of feedback during camera obscura's set weren't too enjoyable, and you could see tracyanne was miffed early on.
 
 but still, CO was really good. i love that band a alot and was drunk, so, again, y'know. they did a lot of slow songs early in the set, so it didn't really get going for a bit, and even the more upbeat ones didn't have the same dynamics as on the album. but they just write really great pop songs, it's hard not to enjoy it. played almost the entire new album and a few others like "80s fan," and "teenager." "suspended from class" was the final encore. again, that room might not be the best to pick up the nuances in their songs, but i had a blast.
 
 the hott rumor in the club was that tony hawk was there. hey, i just report what i hear...
Title: Re: camera obscura/georgie james roll call
Post by: lily1 on July 10, 2006, 12:50:00 am
so that girl stopped and asked you as well if tony hawk was there? she was going around with a few of her friends, who didn't believe her that tony hawk was there to find someone who could officially confirm/deny that rumor.
 
 for someone that is really drunk right now, you type amazingly well!  :D
Title: Re: camera obscura/georgie james roll call
Post by: HoyaSaxa03 on July 10, 2006, 12:50:00 am
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Originally posted by BookerT:
  "suspended from class" was the final encore.
that's probably my favorite song by them ... perfect ear candy, and that chorus just burrows in your head
Title: Re: camera obscura/georgie james roll call
Post by: Vas Deferens on July 10, 2006, 12:52:00 am
Maybe they should fire the sound guy? There's definitely something wrong with the BC's acoustics. My ears hurt not so much from the loud sound, but from the mix.  
 
 
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Originally posted by BookerT:
   lately i've been getting frustrated w/people complaining about the sound at the black cat, i mean, it's a rock show, deal with it, jesus christ. but maybe they have a point. it didn't ruin the performance, but it sounded a bit thin. and the random blasts of feedback during camera obscura's set weren't too enjoyable, and you could see tracyanne was miffed early on.
 
Title: Re: camera obscura/georgie james roll call
Post by: BookerT on July 10, 2006, 12:56:00 am
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Originally posted by lily1:
 
 for someone that is really drunk right now, you type amazingly well!   :D  
there was a lot more backspacing in that post than most, i'll admit. can't well post gibberish on an esteemed board like this, presentation counts! but typing drunk for me is like driving drunk -- it just sort of brings me back to the pack, i'm still more in control than most.
 
 (note to betty, grace and all other young board members: IGNORE THE ABOVE!!!! IT'S THAT KIND OF THINKING THAT WILL GET YOU IN BIG TROUBLE SOME DAY!!!)
Title: Re: camera obscura/georgie james roll call
Post by: Herr Professor Doktor Doom on July 10, 2006, 01:11:00 am
Jesus Christ, I forgot all about this show.  Can't you people SMS me or something when there's a show I want to see on, so I won't miss it?  Thanx.
Title: Re: camera obscura/georgie james roll call
Post by: Darth Ed on July 10, 2006, 01:40:00 am
Overall show rating: very good (but not great or even excellent)
 
 I was unimpressed with Georgie James at first, but I warmed to them as the set went on. Yeah, I liked them. I'm not sure they have a particularly distinctive sound yet, but I guess they have potential. The girl had great rockstar hair. Anyway, I was not impressed enough to purchase their CD of demos, but I would not be averse to checking them out again in the future.
 
 Camera Obscura, especially Tracyanne, the lead singer, looked tired (even ignoring her black eye). I would have liked to have seen a little more smiling, intensity, heart, interest, enjoyment, anything from Tracyanne. Maybe she just has a nonchalant performance style, but she just didn't look like she was enjoying performing at all and could hardly wait for the set to be over. But they played very well. No complaints there. Set list was excellent. I enjoyed it quite a bit actually. I think they could do better though. I'd like to see them again at some point. FYI, Camera Obscura sold out of their latest CD before I even got to the merch table (the girl in front of me got the last one), and their other CDs were going fast as well, I think. I did pick up Underachievers and the Lloyd EP though.
 
 The sound mix was poor tonight, and that didn't help. Georgie James' lyrics were barely understandable at times. I did better with Camera Obscura's lyrics (better mics helped), but they were hampered by feedback issues throughout their set, which I suppose is not entirely surprising given the many live mics they had on stage.
 
 I'm starting to miss the Black Cat's old JBL speakers. The treble response of JBL is harsher, but it was also clearer. Their new(ish) speakers just sound muddier, but I'm sure you could blame the sound engineer for that just as well. The Black Cat sound quality is kind of random. Some concerts it's OK, good even, and some concerts it's bad. Tonight's wasn't the worst I've heard, but it wasn't good either. I think sometimes it depends on the microphones and amps that the bands bring. But I also suspect the Black Cat employs 2-3 house sound engineers, and it all depends on which one is working on any given night as to how good the show sounds. That's my current theory....
Title: Re: camera obscura/georgie james roll call
Post by: Tom Servo on July 10, 2006, 09:40:00 am
Thanks for the reviews everyone.  I was planning oh going to this but couldn't get myself moving.  I'll catch them next time.
Title: Re: camera obscura/georgie james roll call
Post by: you be betty on July 10, 2006, 11:07:00 am
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Originally posted by BookerT:
   
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Originally posted by lily1:
 
 for someone that is really drunk right now, you type amazingly well!    :D  
there was a lot more backspacing in that post than most, i'll admit. can't well post gibberish on an esteemed board like this, presentation counts! but typing drunk for me is like driving drunk -- it just sort of brings me back to the pack, i'm still more in control than most.
 
 (note to betty, grace and all other young board members: IGNORE THE ABOVE!!!! IT'S THAT KIND OF THINKING THAT WILL GET YOU IN BIG TROUBLE SOME DAY!!!) [/b]
You talk like GOB when you are wasted.
Title: Re: camera obscura/georgie james roll call
Post by: you be betty on July 10, 2006, 11:09:00 am
and I wouldn't ever drive drunk, that's just silly...you shouldn't either...
Title: Re: camera obscura/georgie james roll call
Post by: Vas Deferens on July 10, 2006, 11:15:00 am
She's singing these lyrics and you're expecting her to smile??!!
 
 "Still you see there are tears in my eyes
 With love for him I despise
 
 Darling you will always be around
 Whether my moodâ??s up or if itâ??s down
 In dreams I try to take you far away
 But you never stay
 No you never stay
 No you never stay"
 
 
 
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Originally posted by Darth Ed:
 
 Camera Obscura, especially Tracyanne, the lead singer, looked tired (even ignoring her black eye). I would have liked to have seen a little more smiling, intensity, heart, interest, enjoyment, anything from Tracyanne.
Title: Re: camera obscura/georgie james roll call
Post by: Vas Deferens on July 10, 2006, 11:19:00 am
Btw, I thought C.O. were grrreat  :)
 
 Georgie James...just not my cup of tea.
Title: Re: camera obscura/georgie james roll call
Post by: HoyaSaxa03 on July 11, 2006, 03:24:00 am
how often do you see the black cat in an "official dc" gossip column?
 
 -------------------
 
 The Reliable Source (http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2006/07/10/AR2006071001451.html?nav=rss_print/style)
 
 By Amy Argetsinger and Roxanne Roberts
 Tuesday, July 11, 2006; Page C03
 
 You assume it's easy being a VIP, right? Crowds parting, doors opening wherever you go? Well, usually -- but not in the Washington area last weekend.
 
 Tony Hawk got bounced out of the Black Cat nightclub Sunday night -- or rather, bounced by association. The gangly skateboarding legend, in town with his traveling Boom Boom Huckjam boarding/BMX/motocross spectacle, dropped in on the Camera Obscura show with friends. One of the guys wasn't carrying an ID and got his hands marked with the black-ink X's the club uses for underage patrons. When management caught Hawk's friend drinking -- how he got the alcohol is unknown -- the pal was kicked out. Hawk "basically ended up leaving abruptly because his friend left," said club owner Dante Ferrando.
 
 (What was Hawk, who skates to hard-driving rock, doing at a concert of twee Scottish popsters? Maybe he got the wrong band: Camera Obscura shares a name with an unrelated San Diego punk band that was fronted by a former pro skateboarder.)
Title: Re: camera obscura/georgie james roll call
Post by: vansmack on July 21, 2006, 07:08:00 pm
Great American Music Hall - July 20
 
 OK, so I finally got to see Camera Obscura with Georgie James out here.
 
 Georgie James is completely different then Q and not U, but I don't think that mattered to anybody out here besides me.  I even hollared a Q and not U reference and only the band got it, so they were well received in SF.  I think change is hard for some bands, and DC will be extra hard for them to win over.  Most comments on this board about them were spot on - they are a 70's sounding pop band and either that's your cup of tea or it's not.  I think they're pretty good at what they do, although I prefer them when Laura is singing, and that seemed to be the consensus of the group.  Nobody in my group thought well enough of them to buy the demo, but each thought that we would consider the full album in due time.  Not a bad opener all in all.
 
 Now Camera Obscura are a whole different story.  They were brilliant.  But you have to go in knowing that they're not going to rock.  That's not what they do.  I feel Tracyanne was probably a little more peppy with the SF crowd then what I read here about the DC crowd (purely a guess as I was not in DC).  A quick shout out to Lulu for teaching me Scottish so I understood Tracyanne.  I was translating for most of the group around me.  They played a lot of stuff off of the new album and the favorites "80's Fan," "teenager," and "Suspended from Class" although in a different order from the set list at the Black Cat.  At one point, they even skipped a song and before they played their last song before the encore, somebody in the crowd pointed it out and they played it before leaving.  Of course, being in SF we were treated to "San Francisco Song" which was extremely well received.  It's a brilliant live song.  Oddly, they weren't selling the CD single that has that track on it.  Others not familiar with CO liked them, but also wished that Tracyanne was a little more into her singing.  Anyhow, they were everything I had hoped.
 
 The venue is gorgeous (for those that haven't been, it's an old theater built after the quake and has balconies and lovely architechture all over the place) which fit nicely with the CO motif.  They also offer a dinner ticket for the balcony, and although I'm opposed to the notion, this would have been the type of show to do something like that.  They also have $3.50 PBR drafts.  Rock on.  
 
 And for those that are interested, a California story.  So when CO started playing, two girls next to me started talking louder to each other in order to hear each other.  Me, not really enjoying the yapping and having been out of CA for a while forgetting how polite I'm supposed to be, leaned over to the ladies and as smart ass as I could, told them "hey, the band started playing!" pointing towards the stage.  Perplexed, they looked at me and asked "what?".  I explained "that was me being polite for shut the f#$% up, I didn't pay to hear you yap, I paid to hear them play."  Not surprisingly, they were really quiet the rest of the show.  No doubt if I had done that in DC it would have evolved into two law students argiung with me that they had every right to talk about whatever they wanted to in a public place.  There is something to be said for not being polite in a polite enviornment - they had no idea how to deal with it, but were too afraid to keep talking.  I probably should have just asked for a refund, but I really wanted to see CO.
Title: Re: camera obscura/georgie james roll call
Post by: Vas Deferens on July 21, 2006, 09:45:00 pm
There's nothing like the Great American Music Hall...*sigh* Glad you enjoyed the venue. Billy Bragg is playing there in October days before the Strictly Bluegrass festival   :)  
 
   
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Originally posted by vansmack:
  Great American Music Hall - July 20
 
 The venue is gorgeous (for those that haven't been, it's an old theater built after the quake and has balconies and lovely architechture all over the place) which fit nicely with the CO motif.  They also offer a dinner ticket for the balcony, and although I'm opposed to the notion, this would have been the type of show to do something like that.  They also have $3.50 PBR drafts.  Rock on.