930 Forums
=> GENERAL DISCUSSION => Topic started by: xcanuck on September 14, 2004, 09:07:00 am
-
Mon Oct 11. The lineup includes Bonnie Raitt, Bruce Springsteen and the E Street Band, Dave Matthews Band, the Dixie Chicks, Jackson Browne, James Taylor, John Fogerty, John Mellencamp, Jurassic 5, Keb' Mo', Kenneth "Babyface" Edmonds, Pearl Jam, and R.E.M.
Tickets on sale Sat through Ticketbastard. Of course, no Republicans allowed ;)
It might be heresy to say this...but Dinosaurs of Rock 2004. They could have at least kept Death Cab for Cutie on the tour.
-
Tickets are $125, apparently.
-
This line-up will seal the Kerry/Edwards fate. 4 more years of W it is.
-
<img src="http://www.spiceweasel.co.uk/b3ta/bushalternate.jpg" alt=" - " />
-
Originally posted by econo:
This line-up will seal the Kerry/Edwards fate. 4 more years of W it is.
They sure do look lame all lumped together - excepting my beloved PJ of course.
They have to appeal to as wide an audience as possible though for it to have any impact. Sure - they could have won the indie cred vote, but would it have had any impact on the election? Prob not. Are most hipsters even old enough to vote? I know most can't buy beer, since nearly every show here in Pittsburgh is all ages.
-
Eh, I was just cracking a joke. Not a very good one though. I really don't expect politicians or political parties to be up on what's hip in music. They're politicians, they've got other things to worry about.
-
This is nothing more, nothing less than a fundraiser. Springsteen alone is going to guarantee a sellout so you're looking at almost $2M going into the ACT/MoveOn coffers.
I don't think this is going to change anyone's vote. The public is polarized and even your favorite rock star isn't going to change your mind. They'll be preaching to the choir in most cases.
Originally posted by econo:
Eh, I was just cracking a joke. Not a very good one though. I really don't expect politicians or political parties to be up on what's hip in music. They're politicians, they've got other things to worry about.
-
What the hell are you talking about? The vision of John Cougar Mellancamp informs my every decision in life.
-
why am i going to pay $125+ for a few bands that will play about 15 minutes each?
-
You could pay $25 to see three garage rock bands play the same length sets at the 9:30 club or black cat.
Originally posted by lily1:
why am i going to pay $125+ for a few bands that will play about 15 minutes each?
-
Originally posted by xcanuck:
I don't think this is going to change anyone's vote.
No, but what it may do is get voters registered (is there still time then?). In terms of the other shows, that's been a big deal -- getting young folks registered to vote, for either party.
-
Originally posted by lily1:
why am i going to pay $125+ for a few bands that will play about 15 minutes each?
Because it's a fundraiser. That's my motivation, anyway.
-
Originally posted by Rhett Miller:
You could pay $25 to see three garage rock bands play the same length sets at the 9:30 club or black cat.
But that wouldn't be a fundraiser...
xcanuck, where'd you find the info on the DC show? NEVER MIND -- found it on moveon.org. Not super easy to find, but got it.
-
Before or after your gay experience?
Originally posted by Rhett Miller:
What the hell are you talking about? The vision of John Cougar Mellancamp informs my every decision in life.
-
isn't it 30 days before the election? can't remember the specifics.
Originally posted by Bags:
Originally posted by xcanuck:
[qb] No, but what it may do is get voters registered (is there still time then?). In terms of the other shows, that's been a big deal -- getting young folks registered to vote, for either party. [/b]
-
A concert for Democrats at a Republican price point....
Originally posted by elj:
Tickets are $125, apparently.
-
but how much is actually going to the election fund and how much is going to pay the artists, pay for the facility, security, etc. i think federal law is such that only 10% of the total profit needs to go to the fund. which is pretty f'n ridiculous. $12.50 from each attendee.
Originally posted by Bags:
Originally posted by lily1:
[/b]
Because it's a fundraiser. That's my motivation, anyway. [/QB]
-
Originally posted by lily1:
but how much is actually going to the election fund and how much is going to pay the artists, pay for the facility, security, etc. i think federal law is such that only 10% of the total profit needs to go to the fund. which is pretty f'n ridiculous. $12.50 from each attendee.
[/b]
I am not privy to the specifics, but I feel pretty secure that the artists are not getting paid for this -- their intent is to benefit the campaign, not make a bundle on a big group tour...costs would only be venue, the costs of putting on a show, etc. And I'd bet several services are donated...
-
Originally posted by lily1:
isn't it 30 days before the election? can't remember the specifics.
yep - there's still time:
Declare Yourself (http://www.declareyourself.com/)
Econo,
I knew you were kidding - & I agree it's a crap lineup. I was really just thinking while typing - didn't mean to sound bristling.
" A concert for Democrats at a Republican price point...."
Well done :D
-
Originally posted by econo:
Before or after your gay experience?
Originally posted by Rhett Miller:
What the hell are you talking about? The vision of John Cougar Mellancamp informs my every decision in life.
[/b]
<img src="http://a1468.g.akamai.net/f/1468/580/1d/pics.drugstore.com/prodimg/89800/300.jpg" alt=" - " />
-
I bet their limo service and five star hotel stay comes out of the ticket price.
Originally posted by Bags:
Originally posted by lily1:
but how much is actually going to the election fund and how much is going to pay the artists, pay for the facility, security, etc. i think federal law is such that only 10% of the total profit needs to go to the fund. which is pretty f'n ridiculous. $12.50 from each attendee.
[/b]
I am not privy to the specifics, but I feel pretty secure that the artists are not getting paid for this -- their intent is to benefit the campaign, not make a bundle on a big group tour...costs would only be venue, the costs of putting on a show, etc. And I'd bet several services are donated... [/b]
-
Originally posted by Rhett Miller:
I bet their limo service and five star hotel stay comes out of the ticket price.
I'll bet not, at least for some of them (the biggest guns -- Bruce, REM, Pearl Jam maybe)...
-
I'm sure no one wants to drive for DMB after the Chicago incident.
-
I remember I had a friend in Baltimore who told me that a small non-profit she was associated with (for battered women or something) held a fundraiser for which Winona Ryder was the guest.
Winona showed up in a limo paid for by the organization, stayed for 20 minutes talkingto nobody, leaving Dave Pirner behind to apologize for her behaviour.
Wouldn't surprise me if the artists expenses were paid for by the organization.
Originally posted by Bags:
Originally posted by Rhett Miller:
I bet their limo service and five star hotel stay comes out of the ticket price.
I'll bet not, at least for some of them (the biggest guns -- Bruce, REM, Pearl Jam maybe)... [/b]
-
hmmm...I just realized I'm gonna be in NY October 11, but good news: I'm seeing Morrissey at Radio City Music Hall. :)
-
They are going to be facing some tough competition with The Mountain Goats and John Vanderslice at the Black Cat that night, I bet they don't sell a single ticket
-
Originally posted by pollard:
They are going to be facing some tough competition with The Mountain Goats and John Vanderslice at the Black Cat that night, I bet they don't sell a single ticket
ha!
-
Where did you guys find the info. on this? I checked the website, and there seems to be a date confirmed for this, but it doesn't really go into specifics about lineup, cost, or when tix go on sale.
-
Originally posted by grotty:
Originally posted by econo:
[qb] Are most hipsters even old enough to vote? I know most can't buy beer, since nearly every show here in Pittsburgh is all ages. [/b]
You must really get out of the Pittsburgh playgrounds. And here I thought that the Baltimore hipsters were awfully young, being on average about 17-25 in age while the DC hipsters are a bit older.
You only have to be 18 to vote.
In the meantime, I wouldn't spend $12.50 for any of one of those bands in that line-up. Don't like any of them at all. And as far as a donation, I don't have an ounce of trust for either the Republican or the Democratic parties. They've both already taken and squander way too much of my hard earned money.
Also, most speakers and performers are usually paid hefty sums for their appearances. While there are exceptions, they are usually hired by an organization, not doing it as a public service, even if they do stand behind what they are preaching. It's the little guys who don't have a 'name' whom they expect to do all of the free volunteer work.
-
Originally posted by elj:
Tickets are $125, apparently.
I just got an e-mail concerning the pre-sale and it says tickets are $90 and $175.
-
nosebleed seats here i come :)
-
I got presale seats. Couldn't get floor though...odd, huh. $380 for two tickets...
-
looks like my luck ran out :(
-
wouldn't it be better to give $20 to the black cat and just donate $360 to whichever political organization you like :D
sorry, i'll shut up now
-
I've never seen Springsteen, or a bunch of the rest. What the hell...I like MoveOn, it'll be a cool show (I'm sure they'll all be playing together for most of the show, as none can do a long set of their own in that timeframe, really). It'll be a bit of a spectacle and, for me, it'll be all feel good politics.
-
Must be nice to have that kind of money laying around after mortgage payments are made!
Originally posted by Bags:
I've never seen Springsteen, or a bunch of the rest. What the hell...I like MoveOn, it'll be a cool show (I'm sure they'll all be playing together for most of the show, as none can do a long set of their own in that timeframe, really). It'll be a bit of a spectacle and, for me, it'll be all feel good politics.
-
Rhett drank some Hatorade for breakfast this morning.
-
What is that?
Originally posted by econo:
Rhett drank some Hatorade for breakfast this morning.
-
Originally posted by ggwâ?¢:
A concert for Democrats at a Republican price point....
indeed. it's out of touch shit like this that makes the Dems no better than the Republicans in terms of helping out the average working joe
-
Going to shows, be they inexpensive or expensive, is a choice, and different folks prioritize them differently. There are often assumptions made here about how much disposable income someone has based on the shows they attend. Meanwhile, I may give up certain things in order to buy tickets, or maybe I buy double the amount and scalp some for twice face value and go for free, or maybe I have a sugar daddy, or maybe I have a trust fund that can *only* be used to support the arts.
If a show is more than you'd pay, say that, but why comment on my alleged (and maligned) financial status. Like Jag -- she wouldn't pay $12.50 for any of those bands, but she never slags.
-
Originally posted by Celeste:
Originally posted by ggwâ?¢:
A concert for Democrats at a Republican price point....
indeed. it's out of touch shit like this that makes the Dems no better than the Republicans in terms of helping out the average working joe
It's a fundraiser, not a social program. I'll bet you'd be hardpressed to find a Rep fundraiser, even without actual entertainment, and a price point below $500...
-
It could be said that Jag doesn't drink Hatorade.
Originally posted by Bags:
Like Jag -- she wouldn't pay $12.50 for any of those bands, but she never slags.
-
Bags, you are the poster child for conspicuous consumption.
-
Time to pull the lever for Nader for a third straight election.
Originally posted by Bags:
Originally posted by Celeste:
Originally posted by ggwâ?¢:
A concert for Democrats at a Republican price point....
indeed. it's out of touch shit like this that makes the Dems no better than the Republicans in terms of helping out the average working joe
It's a fundraiser, not a social program. I'll bet you'd be hardpressed to find a Rep fundraiser, even without actual entertainment, and a price point below $500... [/b]
-
I thought the Democrats successfully sabotaged Nader's effort to get on the ballot in Virginia?
Originally posted by Rhett Miller:
Time to pull the lever for Nader for a third straight election.
-
He's not on the ballot, you'll have to write him in.
-
<img src="http://www.winternet.com/~mikelr/assets/Troller.jpg" alt=" - " />
Troller is looking for a response...ANY response, and he will chum the waters with complaints, insults, compliments, and inflammatory tidbits hoping that someone...ANYONE, will take the bait. Generally quite harmless - practices a form of catch and release. Nonetheless, he can upset the delicate ecology of a discussion forum. Once a forum becomes aware of his presence, however, all feeding activity ceases and Troller must move on to more promising waters.
-
Rhett's like that damn Chinese snakehead. You just can't kill him.
Originally posted by Random Citizen:
Once a forum becomes aware of his presence, however, all feeding activity ceases and Troller must move on to more promising waters.
[/b][/QUOTE]
-
hoping for
someone...ANYONE, will take the bait
and somehow they always do <yawn>
-
Why don't you go back to the City Paper chatboard?
All I said was it must be nice to have so much disposeable income after ones bills are paid. What is wrong with saying that?
Personally, if I had that kind of money, I'd invest it, or pay down my debt, but this is America, she can spend as she wishes.
Originally posted by Random Citizen:
<img src="http://www.winternet.com/~mikelr/assets/Troller.jpg" alt=" - " />
Troller is looking for a response...ANY response, and he will chum the waters with complaints, insults, compliments, and inflammatory tidbits hoping that someone...ANYONE, will take the bait. Generally quite harmless - practices a form of catch and release. Nonetheless, he can upset the delicate ecology of a discussion forum. Once a forum becomes aware of his presence, however, all feeding activity ceases and Troller must move on to more promising waters.
[/b]
-
Blues Explosion!
Originally posted by Rhett Miller:
Why don't you go back to the City Paper chatboard?
All I said was it must be nice to have so much disposeable income after ones bills are paid. What is wrong with saying that?
Personally, if I had that kind of money, I'd invest it, or pay down my debt, but this is America, she can spend as she wishes.
-
a vote for Nader is a vote for Bush, a la 2000
-
Voices for Change
Rolling Stone Magazine
From Bruce Springsteen to Jadakiss, artists speak out about John Kerry, George Bush and what's at stake on Election Day
As the election approaches, some of rock & roll's biggest artists are embarking on a tour with an unprecedented message: Vote for change. While musicians have played benefits for candidates in the past, nothing on this scale has ever been attempted: a nine-day tour of Ohio, Florida and seven other swing states, culminating on October 11th in a historic concert in Washington, D.C. Spearheaded by Bruce Springsteen, Dave Matthews Band, Dixie Chicks and R.E.M., the tour is expected to raise $10 million to mobilize voters. On the eve of this ambitious undertaking, ROLLING STONE asked twenty-six artists to discuss why they're voting -- and why this election is so important.
Artists speak out (http://www.rollingstone.com/news/story/_/id/6487639)
"We've been mislead" (http://www.rollingstone.com/news/story/_/id/6477832/brucespringsteen?pageid=rs.Story&pageregion=blob)
-
Edited By Jonathan Cohen. September 24, 2004, 3:25 PM ET
Billboard Magazine
Sundance To Broadcast Vote For Change Finale
Sundance Channel will broadcast the Oct. 11 finale of the Vote for Change tour in Washington, D.C. Along with live concert footage of the likes of Bruce Springsteen, Pearl Jam, R.E.M., Dave Matthews Band and James Taylor, "National Anthem: Inside the 'Vote for Change' Concert Tour" will feature pre-taped behind-the-scenes segments lensed by veteran filmmakers Albert Maysles and D A Pennebaker.
Each of the dozen-plus artists are expected to perform for about 22 minutes at the Oct. 11 show, which wraps a 10-day Vote for Choice blitz through upcoming presidential election battleground states.
A Sundance spokesperson tells Billboard.com Maysles and Pennebaker will be on the road with the Vote for Choice tour in the days ahead to document rehearsals and off-stage interaction between the acts.
"From the Kennedys to Dylan, the Beatles, and Stones, Al Maysles and D A Pennebaker are the pre-eminent observers of politics and music in our time," says Sundance founder Robert Redford. "Sundance is pleased to present these legendary filmmakers' view of the collision between pop culture and politics at this fascinating moment in U.S. history."
"This documentary presents a unique opportunity to extend the music from this amazing finale show beyond the walls of the arena to a broader audience, and provide viewers with an insider's look at what the 'Vote for Change' tour is all about," says Springsteen manager Jon Landau.
According to Pearl Jam's official Web site, the show may also by Webcast, with details to be announced.
-- Jonathan Cohen, N.Y.
-
They just released more tickets for this. The seats aren't great, but this is a very tough ticket. Get 'em while you can.