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Title: Name calling and personal attacks
Post by: kosmo vinyl on October 14, 2008, 09:25:00 am
The name calling and personal attacks on this forum have got to stop.  It's gone beyond acceptable behavior in these parts and I suspect that it's making people uncomfortable beyond those who are actively involved in it.  As evidenced by the low volume of posting.  
 
 Discussion of politics can be done without the name calling and personal attacks.
 
 So get it rest.
Title: Re: Name calling and personal attacks
Post by: walkonby on October 14, 2008, 09:27:00 am
then ban politics talk, dude.  this is a music forum.
Title: Re: Name calling and personal attacks
Post by: kosmo vinyl on October 14, 2008, 09:31:00 am
maybe you have a point... i believe that many of us have made an effort to discuss politics here in a reasonably intelligent manner, but it's now turned into a mud slinging match, ironically not unlike the campaigns themselves.
Title: Re: Name calling and personal attacks
Post by: manimtired on October 14, 2008, 09:33:00 am
its the internet.
Title: Re: Name calling and personal attacks
Post by: walkonby on October 14, 2008, 09:34:00 am
no one, and i mean no one can discuss politics or religion with out getting emotional, and usually pissed off.  nature of the satan invented things.
Title: Re: Name calling and personal attacks
Post by: kosmo vinyl on October 14, 2008, 09:38:00 am
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Originally posted by manimtired:
  its the internet.
this maybe true, but not every forum on the internet has to become a cesspool of insults 24x7... it always starts out as friendly jabs between a couple people, but it can go down hill very fast....
Title: Re: Name calling and personal attacks
Post by: saco on October 14, 2008, 09:42:00 am
True.  But emotional and pissed off do not have to necessarily be followed by name calling and personal attacks.  
 
 Just because people feel they can be a little harsher to someone online than face to face, and it happens everywhere else online are not good excuses to tolerate it here.
Title: Re: Name calling and personal attacks
Post by: manimtired on October 14, 2008, 09:45:00 am
all we are saaaaaaying....is give peace a chaaance...
Title: Re: Name calling and personal attacks
Post by: renton007 on October 14, 2008, 09:52:00 am
How about that episode of Gossip Girl last night? Blair is such a bitch...whoops, my bad.
Title: Re: Name calling and personal attacks
Post by: chaz on October 14, 2008, 10:01:00 am
If we just banned everyone voting for McCain this wouldn't be an issue.
Title: Re: Name calling and personal attacks
Post by: walkonby on October 14, 2008, 10:03:00 am
Quote
Originally posted by manimtired:
  all we are saaaaaaying....is give peace a chaaance...
lennon was a misogynist.
Title: Re: Name calling and personal attacks
Post by: Herr Professor Doktor Doom on October 14, 2008, 10:21:00 am
I do think political discussions on the internet are inherently pointless, which helps explain why they are so prone to degeneration.  It's not like we're going to develop some unparalleled insights through discussion here.   I try to avoid them... my bad for getting into that here, and for my role in making it personal.
Title: Re: Name calling and personal attacks
Post by: hutch on October 14, 2008, 11:24:00 am
I agree that talking about politics here is pointless.. unfortunately some people whenever they hear that a band is playing a concert in support of a political cause get in a tizzy and instead of talking about the band and music go political ape-shit. This happened for example on the Beastie Boys thread.
 
 Generally I will avoid any discussion of politics here but I draw the line when someone is making fun of community organizers... thats unacceptable and I'd rather be banned than stand for that..
Title: Re: Name calling and personal attacks
Post by: Frank Gallagher on October 14, 2008, 11:27:00 am
Question - is calling all the Obama supporters the blind sheeple that they are considered name calling or a personal attack, or would I have to make the comment like "Chaz, you're a blind sheeple"?
 
 OR
 
 If I say "All McCain supporters are racist bigots" a personal attack or would I have to say "Manimtired you're a racist bigot for supporting McCain"?
 
 Just trying to understand the ground rules here.
  ;)
Title: Re: Name calling and personal attacks
Post by: Charlie Nakatestes, Japanese Golfer on October 14, 2008, 11:28:00 am
Are you kidding? I was thinking of Obama, but Mankie, ManImtired and Julian have been so slick with their arguments that they have convinced me to vote McCain.
 
 
 
Quote
Originally posted by They call me Doctor Doom.:
  I do think political discussions on the internet are inherently pointless, which helps explain why they are so prone to degeneration.  It's not like we're going to develop some unparalleled insights through discussion here.   I try to avoid them... my bad for getting into that here, and for my role in making it personal.
Title: Re: Name calling and personal attacks
Post by: Julian, Alleged Computer F**kface on October 14, 2008, 11:30:00 am
Also, just so I understand the ground rules: can I call people who aren't part of this messageboard names? I'd hate to have to stop referring to HopeChange as Jimmy Carter v2.0.
Title: Re: Name calling and personal attacks
Post by: manimtired on October 14, 2008, 11:42:00 am
hutch ..PLEASE tell me youre joking???
Title: Re: Name calling and personal attacks
Post by: chaz on October 14, 2008, 11:59:00 am
Here we go....cue up the war drums....
Title: Re: Name calling and personal attacks
Post by: Charlie Nakatestes, Japanese Golfer on October 14, 2008, 12:05:00 pm
Nice band name, hint, hint. Or maybe just "The War Drums"
 
 
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Originally posted by chaz:
  cue up the war drums....
Title: Re: Name calling and personal attacks
Post by: hutch on October 14, 2008, 12:14:00 pm
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Originally posted by manimtired:
  hutch ..PLEASE tell me youre joking???
Joking? Why would I be joking manimtired?
 
 I found your comment on the Beastie Boys thread to be most ill advised and said so directly (quoting you so it would be clear) TWICE. Your response the first time was GTFO cause you didn't recognize me or something so the second time I had to make it clearer. Hopefully the third time is the charm: bashing/marginalizing/trivializing the work of community organizers ain't cool mac.
 
 PLEASE tell me you're getting the message???
Title: Re: Name calling and personal attacks
Post by: kosmo vinyl on October 14, 2008, 12:18:00 pm
Right I'm counting to ten and will start sending people to stand it corners if the feuding doesn't end soon...
Title: Re: Name calling and personal attacks
Post by: Charlie Nakatestes, Japanese Golfer on October 14, 2008, 12:20:00 pm
Can we do the same with the people running the campaigns?
 
 
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Originally posted by kosmo:
  Right I'm counting to ten and will start sending people to stand it corners if the feuding doesn't end soon...
Title: Re: Name calling and personal attacks
Post by: manimtired on October 14, 2008, 12:23:00 pm
id say obama was more of a race baiter than community organizer so maybe youre right.  i think obamas "community organizing" was a JOKE. what did he accomplish with his community organizing?
Title: Re: Name calling and personal attacks
Post by: kosmo vinyl on October 14, 2008, 12:28:00 pm
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Title: Re: Name calling and personal attacks
Post by: kosmo vinyl on October 14, 2008, 12:29:00 pm
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Originally posted by Charlie Nakatestes,Japanese Golfer:
  Can we do the same with the people running the campaigns?
 
   
Quote
Originally posted by kosmo:
  Right I'm counting to ten and will start sending people to stand it corners if the feuding doesn't end soon...
[/b]
i concur... that way i can't stop feeling like i have to check on election news related websites all day long...
Title: Re: Name calling and personal attacks
Post by: Sage 703 on October 14, 2008, 12:32:00 pm
Quote
Originally posted by kosmo:
  The name calling and personal attacks on this forum have got to stop.  It's gone beyond acceptable behavior in these parts and I suspect that it's making people uncomfortable beyond those who are actively involved in it.  As evidenced by the low volume of posting.  
 
 Discussion of politics can be done without the name calling and personal attacks.
 
 So get it rest.
To be fair, there are only a limited amount of people that are making personal attacks...
Title: Re: Name calling and personal attacks
Post by: kosmo vinyl on October 14, 2008, 12:39:00 pm
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Originally posted by callat703:
   
Quote
Originally posted by kosmo:
  The name calling and personal attacks on this forum have got to stop.  It's gone beyond acceptable behavior in these parts and I suspect that it's making people uncomfortable beyond those who are actively involved in it.  As evidenced by the low volume of posting.  
 
 Discussion of politics can be done without the name calling and personal attacks.
 
 So get it rest.
To be fair, there are only a limited amount of people that are making personal attacks... [/b]
yes but i suspect the surge in personal attacks is having an effect on the participation of those not involved in those personal attacks...
 
 i take full responsibility for not putting the stop to the use of the c word earlier... i know kosmette is offended by even the casual use of that word...
Title: Re: Name calling and personal attacks
Post by: beetsnotbeats on October 14, 2008, 12:44:00 pm
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Originally posted by chaz:
  If we just banned everyone voting for McCain this wouldn't be an issue.
All three of 'em?   :p  
 
 Kosmo, I think it's just some nerves out there. Only three more weeks until the most anxiously anticipated presidential election of my lifetime, which isn't much shorter than your own. All this will pass.
Title: Re: Name calling and personal attacks
Post by: sonickteam2 on October 14, 2008, 12:45:00 pm
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Originally posted by kosmo:
 
 i take full responsibility for not putting the stop to the use of the c word earlier... i know kosmette is offended by even the casual use of that word...
conservative?
Title: Re: Name calling and personal attacks
Post by: Julian, Alleged Computer F**kface on October 14, 2008, 12:47:00 pm
Quote
Originally posted by beetsnotbeats:
  Only three more weeks until the most anxiously anticipated presidential election of my lifetime,
Which we said about 2004. And 2000 before that. Is every election more anticipated then the ones before, or are we all just susceptible to hyperbole?
Title: Re: Name calling and personal attacks
Post by: kosmo vinyl on October 14, 2008, 12:49:00 pm
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Originally posted by very sonick:
   
Quote
Originally posted by kosmo:
 
 i take full responsibility for not putting the stop to the use of the c word earlier... i know kosmette is offended by even the casual use of that word...
conservative? [/b]
i kan't say the letter c...
Title: Re: Name calling and personal attacks
Post by: nkotb on October 14, 2008, 12:49:00 pm
2012 is gonna BLOW. YR. MIND.
 
 
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Originally posted by Julian, certified WEBLEBRITY:
   
Quote
Originally posted by beetsnotbeats:
  Only three more weeks until the most anxiously anticipated presidential election of my lifetime,
Which we said about 2004. And 2000 before that. Is every election more anticipated then the ones before, or are we all just susceptible to hyperbole? [/b]
Title: Re: Name calling and personal attacks
Post by: kosmo vinyl on October 14, 2008, 12:50:00 pm
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Originally posted by beetsnotbeats:
   
Quote
Originally posted by chaz:
  If we just banned everyone voting for McCain this wouldn't be an issue.
All three of 'em?    :p  
 
 Kosmo, I think it's just some nerves out there. Only three more weeks until the most anxiously anticipated presidential election of my lifetime, which isn't much shorter than your own. All this will pass. [/b]
this is true, but feuds have been breaking out for several months... some entertaining, some not so entertaining...
Title: Re: Name calling and personal attacks
Post by: beetsnotbeats on October 14, 2008, 12:50:00 pm
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Originally posted by Julian, certified WEBLEBRITY:
   
Quote
Originally posted by beetsnotbeats:
  Only three more weeks until the most anxiously anticipated presidential election of my lifetime,
Which we said about 2004. And 2000 before that. Is every election more anticipated then the ones before, or are we all just susceptible to hyperbole? [/b]
It's my own observation. I couldn't care less about what the traditional corporate media have to say about it.
Title: Re: Name calling and personal attacks
Post by: miss pretentious on October 14, 2008, 01:03:00 pm
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Originally posted by kosmo:
   
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Originally posted by very sonick:
     
Quote
Originally posted by kosmo:
 
 i take full responsibility for not putting the stop to the use of the c word earlier... i know kosmette is offended by even the casual use of that word...
conservative? [/b]
i kan't say the letter c... [/b]
C U Next Tuesday ..
 
 anyhow. where do you draw the line on that?
 
 we previously had another boardie in a politically unrelated post call another a bitch and there was nothing done on the part of the mods. suddenly personal attacks matter when in regards to politics but not just general posting?
Title: Re: Name calling and personal attacks
Post by: kosmo vinyl on October 14, 2008, 01:13:00 pm
no it applies to general posting as well... and i'll never admit to being the most perfect moderator, it's just this particular word usage had gone beyond  acceptable
Title: Re: Name calling and personal attacks
Post by: manimtired on October 14, 2008, 01:15:00 pm
no...it just matters when the mods are on the other side of the debate from some of the posters...also, who cares...its the internet. jesus.
Title: Re: Name calling and personal attacks
Post by: DeathFromAbove1979 on October 14, 2008, 01:15:00 pm
Is it possible to be awkward on the internet?
Title: Re: Name calling and personal attacks
Post by: chaz on October 14, 2008, 01:21:00 pm
I like this thread.  It's got potential.
Title: Re: Name calling and personal attacks
Post by: kosmo vinyl on October 14, 2008, 01:50:00 pm
i'm going to stand by this simple statement... a few stinkbugs can ruin it for all involved
Title: Re: Name calling and personal attacks
Post by: manimtired on October 14, 2008, 01:58:00 pm
see my above post
Title: Re: Name calling and personal attacks
Post by: Sage 703 on October 14, 2008, 01:58:00 pm
Quote
Originally posted by kosmo:
  i'm going to stand by this simple statement... a few stinkbugs can ruin it for all involved
Or you can just take care of the bug problem.
Title: Re: Name calling and personal attacks
Post by: kosmo vinyl on October 14, 2008, 02:03:00 pm
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Originally posted by callat703:
   
Quote
Originally posted by kosmo:
  i'm going to stand by this simple statement... a few stinkbugs can ruin it for all involved
Or you can just take care of the bug problem. [/b]
but that would involve wiping out most of the active posters on this forum including myself  ;)
Title: Re: Name calling and personal attacks
Post by: manimtired on October 14, 2008, 02:04:00 pm
yes..ban those with opposing view points.  how "left" of you.
Title: Re: Name calling and personal attacks
Post by: walkonby on October 14, 2008, 02:28:00 pm
it's no wonder how shows like oc, the hill, gossip girl, smallville, laguna beach, most reality shows, etc... are so popular.  people live in highschool neighborhoods of the mind.  cut out those parts of your brain and eat it!  (it is halloween time and most zombies approve this message.)
Title: Re: Name calling and personal attacks
Post by: twangirl on October 14, 2008, 02:31:00 pm
it's not the opposing viewpoints, it's the way they are expressed. I would welcome some intelligent discussion of different views, [on many topics, not just music] but that seems to have been vastly reduced on the board lately, in favor of name-calling and insults.
 This makes me less interested in the board and I view it less often. The shit is just boring.  I don't think I'm the only one who feels this way.
Title: Re: Name calling and personal attacks
Post by: Venerable Bede on October 14, 2008, 02:31:00 pm
Quote
Originally posted by hutch:
  bashing/marginalizing/trivializing the work of community organizers ain't cool mac.
 
can we bash those "community (http://www.tampabay.com/news/politics/elections/article852295.ece)  organizers (http://pajamasmedia.com/blog/the-complete-guide-to-acorn-voter-fraud/)"  that (http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20081007/ap_on_el_pr/voter_fraud_probe)   break (http://www.nypost.com/seven/10142008/news/politics/bogus_voter_booted_amid_probe_of_acorn_133540.htm)  the (http://www.cleveland.com/news/plaindealer/index.ssf?/base/cuyahoga/1223973289273860.xml&coll=2)  law (http://online.wsj.com/article/SB122394051071230749.html?mod=djemEditorialPage)?
Title: Re: Name calling and personal attacks
Post by: Sage 703 on October 14, 2008, 02:58:00 pm
Quote
Originally posted by Venerable Bede:
   
Quote
Originally posted by hutch:
  bashing/marginalizing/trivializing the work of community organizers ain't cool mac.
 
can we bash those "community (http://www.tampabay.com/news/politics/elections/article852295.ece)  organizers (http://pajamasmedia.com/blog/the-complete-guide-to-acorn-voter-fraud/)"  that (http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20081007/ap_on_el_pr/voter_fraud_probe)   break (http://www.nypost.com/seven/10142008/news/politics/bogus_voter_booted_amid_probe_of_acorn_133540.htm)  the (http://www.cleveland.com/news/plaindealer/index.ssf?/base/cuyahoga/1223973289273860.xml&coll=2)  law (http://online.wsj.com/article/SB122394051071230749.html?mod=djemEditorialPage)? [/b]
You mean like the ones I wrote about today? (http://www.wearevotingyes.com/2008/10/examining-acorn-why-justice-department.html)  Sure, I'm in favor.
Title: Re: Name calling and personal attacks
Post by: Sage 703 on October 14, 2008, 03:00:00 pm
Quote
Originally posted by twangirl:
  it's not the opposing viewpoints, it's the way they are expressed. I would welcome some intelligent discussion of different views, [on many topics, not just music] but that seems to have been vastly reduced on the board lately, in favor of name-calling and insults.
 This makes me less interested in the board and I view it less often. The shit is just boring.  I don't think I'm the only one who feels this way.
Seconded.
Title: Re: Name calling and personal attacks
Post by: walkonby on October 14, 2008, 03:02:00 pm
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Originally posted by callat703:
   
Quote
Originally posted by Venerable Bede:
   
Quote
Originally posted by hutch:
  bashing/marginalizing/trivializing the work of community organizers ain't cool mac.
 
can we bash those "community (http://www.tampabay.com/news/politics/elections/article852295.ece)  organizers (http://pajamasmedia.com/blog/the-complete-guide-to-acorn-voter-fraud/)"  that (http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20081007/ap_on_el_pr/voter_fraud_probe)   break (http://www.nypost.com/seven/10142008/news/politics/bogus_voter_booted_amid_probe_of_acorn_133540.htm)  the (http://www.cleveland.com/news/plaindealer/index.ssf?/base/cuyahoga/1223973289273860.xml&coll=2)  law (http://online.wsj.com/article/SB122394051071230749.html?mod=djemEditorialPage)? [/b]
You mean like the ones I wrote about today? (http://www.wearevotingyes.com/2008/10/examining-acorn-why-justice-department.html)  Sure, I'm in favor. [/b]
nobody cares about voter fraud in this country.  2000/2004 proves it.  they pretend to care, then they move on.
Title: Re: Name calling and personal attacks
Post by: kosmo vinyl on October 14, 2008, 03:06:00 pm
let's stay focused people, i know we have a proud tradition of going off topic around here, but start another thread this time if need be...
Title: Re: Name calling and personal attacks
Post by: walkonby on October 14, 2008, 03:09:00 pm
yes people, back to the name calling and personal attacks.
Title: Re: Name calling and personal attacks
Post by: kosmo vinyl on October 14, 2008, 03:10:00 pm
Quote
Originally posted by walkonby:
  yes people, back to the name calling and personal attacks.
via IM only please
Title: Re: Name calling and personal attacks
Post by: manimtired on October 14, 2008, 03:10:00 pm
hahaha
Title: Re: Name calling and personal attacks
Post by: Herr Professor Doktor Doom on October 14, 2008, 03:11:00 pm
This board has an odd dynamic. On the one hand, there is the omnipresent snarkitude.  On the other hand, you can openly admit to being totally naiive about some band or other and ask for advice, and people will take the effort to clue you in, whereas on some music sites you'd be run out of town by a posse of sniggering hipsters.  And I also know from my one Forum Party that people are actually quite nice in person.
Title: Re: Name calling and personal attacks
Post by: Julian, Alleged Computer F**kface on October 14, 2008, 03:14:00 pm
Quote
Originally posted by miss pretentious:
 we previously had another boardie in a politically unrelated post call another a bitch and there was nothing done on the part of the mods. suddenly personal attacks matter when in regards to politics but not just general posting?
Oh sweet, sassy Moses smell the roses. I cannot believe you're dredging this up yet again. The situations are completely different.
Title: Re: Name calling and personal attacks
Post by: walkonby on October 14, 2008, 03:15:00 pm
we should have a forum party where people do nothing but call each other names and personally attack them.  then do keg stands and shots of liquid cocaine.
Title: Re: Name calling and personal attacks
Post by: Julian, Alleged Computer F**kface on October 14, 2008, 03:16:00 pm
Quote
Originally posted by nkotb:
  2012 is gonna BLOW. YR. MIND.
 
I fully expect at this rate all of our heads will explode and our bodies spontaneously combust in response to the 2016 Vice Presidential nominee announcements.
Title: Re: Name calling and personal attacks
Post by: Julian, Alleged Computer F**kface on October 14, 2008, 03:17:00 pm
Quote
Originally posted by walkonby:
  we should have a forum party where people do nothing but call each other names and personally attack them.  then do keg stands and shots of liquid cocaine.
Black tie required, and I'll bring the champagne!
Title: Re: Name calling and personal attacks
Post by: Venerable Bede on October 14, 2008, 03:17:00 pm
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Originally posted by callat703:
   
Quote
Originally posted by Venerable Bede:
   
Quote
Originally posted by hutch:
  bashing/marginalizing/trivializing the work of community organizers ain't cool mac.
 
can we bash those "community (http://www.tampabay.com/news/politics/elections/article852295.ece)  organizers (http://pajamasmedia.com/blog/the-complete-guide-to-acorn-voter-fraud/)"  that (http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20081007/ap_on_el_pr/voter_fraud_probe)   break (http://www.nypost.com/seven/10142008/news/politics/bogus_voter_booted_amid_probe_of_acorn_133540.htm)  the (http://www.cleveland.com/news/plaindealer/index.ssf?/base/cuyahoga/1223973289273860.xml&coll=2)  law (http://online.wsj.com/article/SB122394051071230749.html?mod=djemEditorialPage)? [/b]
You mean like the ones I wrote about today? (http://www.wearevotingyes.com/2008/10/examining-acorn-why-justice-department.html)  Sure, I'm in favor. [/b]
About your posting, Kurtz relied on an article from Social Policy that runs counter to Obama's story on his role with ACORN and Project Vote.  The Social Policy web site has blocked access to that article, but it is available  here (http://sweetness-light.com/archive/obama-ran-acorns-training-sessions-on-power).  I think it's very illuminating and it's understandable why Social Policy would block access to the article.
 
 I would agree that there is nothing about Obama or his campaign working in concert with ACORN on this issue, but there is a significant amount of information out there, a lot of it cited by Kurtz in his two articles on this topic about Obama's ties to ACORN.
 
 I'll stop at that because I risk veering to far into the realm of opinion if I go any further.
Title: Re: Name calling and personal attacks
Post by: walkonby on October 14, 2008, 03:20:00 pm
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Originally posted by Julian, certified WEBLEBRITY:
   
Quote
Originally posted by walkonby:
  we should have a forum party where people do nothing but call each other names and personally attack them.  then do keg stands and shots of liquid cocaine.
Black tie required, and I'll bring the champagne! [/b]
la grande dame clicquot, i would hope!
Title: Re: Name calling and personal attacks
Post by: xneverwherex on October 14, 2008, 03:21:00 pm
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Originally posted by Julian, certified WEBLEBRITY:
   
Quote
Originally posted by miss pretentious:
 we previously had another boardie in a politically unrelated post call another a bitch and there was nothing done on the part of the mods. suddenly personal attacks matter when in regards to politics but not just general posting?
Oh sweet, sassy Moses smell the roses. I cannot believe you're dredging this up yet again. The situations are completely different. [/b]
why is this different. you outright called me a bitch without knowing me. AND NOT A SINGLE MOD DID SHIT! miss p was the only one who said something. i didnt think it was cool - but this is getting out of control. either ban them all, or dont ban anyone. i guess im not 'popular' enough to warrant more being done.
Title: Re: Name calling and personal attacks
Post by: kosmo vinyl on October 14, 2008, 03:21:00 pm
Quote
Originally posted by walkonby:
  we should have a forum party where people do nothing but call each other names and personally attack them.  then do keg stands and shots of liquid cocaine.
we are far to "indie" for such nonsense... it will be macbooks at 20 paces
Title: Re: Name calling and personal attacks
Post by: walkonby on October 14, 2008, 03:23:00 pm
what if my macbook hates vista and crashes?
Title: Re: Name calling and personal attacks
Post by: sonickteam2 on October 14, 2008, 03:24:00 pm
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Originally posted by xneverwherex:
   
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Originally posted by Julian, certified WEBLEBRITY:
   
Quote
Originally posted by miss pretentious:
 we previously had another boardie in a politically unrelated post call another a bitch and there was nothing done on the part of the mods. suddenly personal attacks matter when in regards to politics but not just general posting?
Oh sweet, sassy Moses smell the roses. I cannot believe you're dredging this up yet again. The situations are completely different. [/b]
why is this different. you outright called me a bitch without knowing me. AND NOT A SINGLE MOD DID SHIT! miss p was the only one who said something. i didnt think it was cool - but this is getting out of control. either ban them all, or dont ban anyone. i guess im not 'popular' enough to warrant more being done. [/b]
you're my favourite boardie!
   :p
Title: Re: Name calling and personal attacks
Post by: xneverwherex on October 14, 2008, 03:25:00 pm
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Originally posted by very sonick:
   
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Originally posted by xneverwherex:
   
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Originally posted by Julian, certified WEBLEBRITY:
     
Quote
Originally posted by miss pretentious:
 we previously had another boardie in a politically unrelated post call another a bitch and there was nothing done on the part of the mods. suddenly personal attacks matter when in regards to politics but not just general posting?
Oh sweet, sassy Moses smell the roses. I cannot believe you're dredging this up yet again. The situations are completely different. [/b]
why is this different. you outright called me a bitch without knowing me. AND NOT A SINGLE MOD DID SHIT! miss p was the only one who said something. i didnt think it was cool - but this is getting out of control. either ban them all, or dont ban anyone. i guess im not 'popular' enough to warrant more being done. [/b]
you're my favourite boardie!
    :D
Title: Re: Name calling and personal attacks
Post by: Venerable Bede on October 14, 2008, 03:27:00 pm
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Originally posted by walkonby:
   
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Originally posted by Julian, certified WEBLEBRITY:
   
Quote
Originally posted by walkonby:
  we should have a forum party where people do nothing but call each other names and personally attack them.  then do keg stands and shots of liquid cocaine.
Black tie required, and I'll bring the champagne! [/b]
la grande dame clicquot, i would hope! [/b]
la grande dame, sheesh. . .it's bollinger grand annee or nothing. . .
Title: Re: Name calling and personal attacks
Post by: kosmo vinyl on October 14, 2008, 03:29:00 pm
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Originally posted by xneverwherex:
   
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Originally posted by Julian, certified WEBLEBRITY:
   
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Originally posted by miss pretentious:
 we previously had another boardie in a politically unrelated post call another a bitch and there was nothing done on the part of the mods. suddenly personal attacks matter when in regards to politics but not just general posting?
Oh sweet, sassy Moses smell the roses. I cannot believe you're dredging this up yet again. The situations are completely different. [/b]
why is this different. you outright called me a bitch without knowing me. AND NOT A SINGLE MOD DID SHIT! miss p was the only one who said something. i didnt think it was cool - but this is getting out of control. either ban them all, or dont ban anyone. i guess im not 'popular' enough to warrant more being done. [/b]
ok i vaguely remember this incident and apologize if i didn't react.... should something like this happen i suggest that you contact myself directly as that has worked for others in the past...
 
 to some extent this board is self moderating, it's just that it's reaching the point that real feelings are going to be hurt and it's time to tone down the language.
Title: Re: Name calling and personal attacks
Post by: Julian, Alleged Computer F**kface on October 14, 2008, 03:30:00 pm
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Originally posted by xneverwherex:
  why is this different. you outright called me a bitch without knowing me. AND NOT A SINGLE MOD DID SHIT! miss p was the only one who said something. i didnt think it was cool - but this is getting out of control. either ban them all, or dont ban anyone. i guess im not 'popular' enough to warrant more being done.
It's different, in large part, because of intent. In a politics thread where two people are arguing back and forth and someone calls someone a name, we'll go with 'cheeky bastard,' it is obvious from the totality of the circumstances that the intent was to insult or demean the other person. When I dropped the bitch line, someone else had called you out for posting out of town shows and I quoted a television program. Looking at the totality of the circumstances, it's obvious that my intention was not to insult or demean you since (a) I was not the one arguing with you, (b) I did not agree with the person arguing with you as evidenced by the fact that 80% of the shows I post about are out-of-town shows, (c) I said I had no idea you were a woman, and (d) when it was brought to my attention that you were a woman and I had insulted you, I immediately apologized.
 
 There's a difference between doing something with malicious intent and misguidedly trying to bring levity to an already ridiculous argument.
 
 Additionally, I would argue certain words are generally agreed to be more offensive then others. C U Next Tuesday offends even the filthiest mouthed sailor; dumbass or bitch are rather benign by comparison. It's like they're in different tiers of curseword offensiveness.
Title: Re: Name calling and personal attacks
Post by: walkonby on October 14, 2008, 03:34:00 pm
dylan should write, "those posting out of town shows blues."
Title: Re: Name calling and personal attacks
Post by: Sage 703 on October 14, 2008, 03:35:00 pm
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Originally posted by Venerable Bede:
     
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Originally posted by hutch:
  bashing/marginalizing/trivializing the work of community organizers ain't cool mac.
 
can we bash those "community (http://www.tampabay.com/news/politics/elections/article852295.ece)  organizers (http://pajamasmedia.com/blog/the-complete-guide-to-acorn-voter-fraud/)"  that (http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20081007/ap_on_el_pr/voter_fraud_probe)   break (http://www.nypost.com/seven/10142008/news/politics/bogus_voter_booted_amid_probe_of_acorn_133540.htm)  the (http://www.cleveland.com/news/plaindealer/index.ssf?/base/cuyahoga/1223973289273860.xml&coll=2)  law (http://online.wsj.com/article/SB122394051071230749.html?mod=djemEditorialPage)? [/b]
You mean like the ones I wrote about today? (http://www.wearevotingyes.com/2008/10/examining-acorn-why-justice-department.html)  Sure, I'm in favor. [/b]
About your posting, Kurtz relied on an article from Social Policy that runs counter to Obama's story on his role with ACORN and Project Vote.  The Social Policy web site has blocked access to that article, but it is available  here (http://sweetness-light.com/archive/obama-ran-acorns-training-sessions-on-power).  I think it's very illuminating and it's understandable why Social Policy would block access to the article.
  [/b]
Well two things, and I'll give the thread back.  Venerable, can continue on the comment thread on the blog if you'd like.
 
 First, it seems to me that if Obama had run seminars for ACORN for 11 years, there would be more than one article or one source that could document that fact.  Not to split hairs, but the article also notes that they "invited" Obama each of those years.  It doesn't say that he actually led the seminars in those years, though it wants the reader to infer that.
 
 Regardless, it is an interesting read, despite the fact that it still doesn't prove any kind of sinister association.  It remains true that ACORN is a legitimate, relevant group that is active in major cities around the country.  Even if Obama has worked with them in the past, it doesn't really change anything now - leading a seminar in Chicago is not really relevant to what the ACORN issue is today.
Title: Re: Name calling and personal attacks
Post by: Julian, Alleged Computer F**kface on October 14, 2008, 03:37:00 pm
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Originally posted by Venerable Bede:
  la grande dame, sheesh. . .it's bollinger grand annee or nothing. . .
I could stomach Moet & Chandon if need be.
Title: Re: Name calling and personal attacks
Post by: chaz on October 14, 2008, 03:39:00 pm
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Originally posted by walkonby:
  we should have a forum party where people do nothing but call each other names and personally attack them.  then do keg stands and shots of liquid cocaine.
Make it liquid crack cocaine and I'm in!
Title: Re: Name calling and personal attacks
Post by: chaz on October 14, 2008, 03:46:00 pm
In a show of solidarity with this brave girl I am changing my name to Yourwords Hurtme.  It's on my driver's license and everything.
 
  link (http://www.cnn.com/2008/US/10/14/cutout.dissection.ap/index.html)
Title: Re: Name calling and personal attacks
Post by: Arthwys on October 14, 2008, 03:54:00 pm
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Originally posted by manimtired:
  yes..ban those with opposing view points.  how "left" of you.
Think I'm in danger of being banned because I honestly think "Pop" is U2's greatest album?
Title: Re: Name calling and personal attacks
Post by: kosmo vinyl on October 14, 2008, 04:08:00 pm
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Originally posted by Arthwys:
   
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Originally posted by manimtired:
  yes..ban those with opposing view points.  how "left" of you.
Think I'm in danger of being banned because I honestly think "Pop" is U2's greatest album? [/b]
well i don't acknowledge the existence of any full length U2 album released after "War", they did release some nice singles post "War"... and kosmette is rather fond of  "Pop"...
Title: Re: Name calling and personal attacks
Post by: Venerable Bede on October 14, 2008, 04:16:00 pm
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Originally posted by Arthwys:
   
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Originally posted by manimtired:
  yes..ban those with opposing view points.  how "left" of you.
Think I'm in danger of being banned because I honestly think "Pop" is U2's greatest album? [/b]
i once said that "honey's dead" was the best jesus and mary chain album. . .
Title: Re: Name calling and personal attacks
Post by: walkonby on October 14, 2008, 04:18:00 pm
i don't like people who say the bends is radiohead's best.  it almost seems like their brain to mouth response is trying too hard.
Title: Re: Name calling and personal attacks
Post by: Julian, Alleged Computer F**kface on October 14, 2008, 04:20:00 pm
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Originally posted by walkonby:
  i don't like people who say the bends is radiohead's best.  it almost seems like their brain to mouth response is trying too hard.
This.
 
 The Bends is very good, but to argue it's better then OKC or KidA is simply trying to be different for different's sake.
Title: Re: Name calling and personal attacks
Post by: walkonby on October 14, 2008, 04:24:00 pm
what does "this" have to do with anything?
Title: Re: Name calling and personal attacks
Post by: chaz on October 14, 2008, 04:29:00 pm
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Originally posted by Venerable Bede:
   
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Originally posted by Arthwys:
   
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Originally posted by manimtired:
  yes..ban those with opposing view points.  how "left" of you.
Think I'm in danger of being banned because I honestly think "Pop" is U2's greatest album? [/b]
i once said that "honey's dead" was the best jesus and mary chain album. . . [/b]
So in your opinion what is the be JAMC album?
Title: Re: Name calling and personal attacks
Post by: nkotb on October 14, 2008, 04:34:00 pm
Munki?
 
 
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Originally posted by Venerable Bede:
   
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Originally posted by Arthwys:
     
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Originally posted by manimtired:
  yes..ban those with opposing view points.  how "left" of you.
Think I'm in danger of being banned because I honestly think "Pop" is U2's greatest album? [/b]
i once said that "honey's dead" was the best jesus and mary chain album. . . [/b]
So in your opinion what is the be JAMC album? [/b]
Title: Re: Name calling and personal attacks
Post by: Venerable Bede on October 14, 2008, 04:41:00 pm
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Originally posted by chaz:
  So in your opinion what is the be JAMC album?
i like either honey's dead or automatic.  i had friends in college that swore darklands was the only good JAMC album.
Title: Re: Name calling and personal attacks
Post by: Julian, Alleged Computer F**kface on October 14, 2008, 06:32:00 pm
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Originally posted by walkonby:
  what does "this" have to do with anything?
http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=this (http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=this)
 
 1. This - One-word response placed after a quote on a message board as an affirmation of the author's agreement with the quoted person's view or opinion. Commonly used on Fark.com.
 
 Some guy: "Nice to see that the human race has advanced to the point of using robots to poke things with a stick."
 
 Another guy (after quoting above): This.

 
 2. THIS - A slang word used on popular internet forums which means "I agree with you 100%" or "that is very true."
Title: Re: Name calling and personal attacks
Post by: Herr Professor Doktor Doom on October 14, 2008, 06:36:00 pm
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Originally posted by Julian, certified WEBLEBRITY:
   Commonly used on Fark.com.
 
That explains a lot...
Title: Re: Name calling and personal attacks
Post by: renton007 on October 15, 2008, 08:08:00 am
The Bends f'ing blows, but I couldn't take Radiohead that seriously after Creep. OKC and Kid A are pretty good though. My favorite JAMC might be Hate Rock & Roll.
Title: Re: Name calling and personal attacks
Post by: sonickteam2 on October 15, 2008, 08:44:00 am
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Originally posted by chaz:
  So in your opinion what is the be JAMC album?
hands down Automatic.
Title: Re: Name calling and personal attacks
Post by: Relaxer on October 15, 2008, 09:09:00 am
How could you people even joke about this? Psychocandy is the #1 album of all time. To me, at least. But that's something.
Title: Re: Name calling and personal attacks
Post by: Frank Gallagher on October 15, 2008, 12:45:00 pm
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Originally posted by Charlie Nakatestes,Japanese Golfer:
  Are you kidding? I was thinking of Obama, but Mankie, ManImtired and Julian have been so slick with their arguments that they have convinced me to vote McCain.
 
 
   
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Originally posted by They call me Doctor Doom.:
  I do think political discussions on the internet are inherently pointless, which helps explain why they are so prone to degeneration.  It's not like we're going to develop some unparalleled insights through discussion here.   I try to avoid them... my bad for getting into that here, and for my role in making it personal.
[/b]
ME??? What have I done to sway your vote? I haven't 'endorsed' either of them. You could pull my nuts off with a clydesdale hooked up to a meat clever and I wouldn't vote for Obama, but that doesn't mean I'm a McCainist. If do vote for McCain it will be simply to cancel out a vote for Obama, but then I would have to go home and take a long hot shower after voting for a republican. Not voting seems to be a cowards way out so my only other choice would be one of the other no-hopes (not Nader though). That would make me feel good about voting but also disapointed that my vote meant nothing.
 
 My only comment is with all the millions of people in this country of ours is if these are the best two we can come up with it doesn't say much about our country does it?
 
 I was just in the barber shop in Jupiter and listening to the two barbers and two other (white male) customers talk about 'yer black president' 'yer can take my concealed weapons permit but arl still have mar gun' 'it ain't muurca when yer got a black called hussein in the white house' 'there's a reason it's called the white house' etc. etc. you get the pic. I got up to walk out and one of the barbers said, "uh, oh, seems we upset an Obama voter" so replied, "I wouldn't vote for Obama if he was the only candidate, but it has nothing to do with his skin color or middle name" then left and went to the hair butchery instead.
Title: Re: Name calling and personal attacks
Post by: walkonby on October 15, 2008, 12:49:00 pm
vote for nadar then.
Title: Re: Name calling and personal attacks
Post by: Frank Gallagher on October 15, 2008, 01:33:00 pm
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Originally posted by walkonby:
  vote for nadar then.
Read my post completely will you please?
Title: Re: Name calling and personal attacks
Post by: walkonby on October 15, 2008, 01:48:00 pm
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Originally posted by Ever Circling Skeletal Family:
   
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Originally posted by walkonby:
  vote for nadar then.
Read my post completely will you please? [/b]
i did.  you should still vote for him.  he's smart.
Title: Re: Name calling and personal attacks
Post by: sweetcell on October 15, 2008, 04:24:00 pm
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Originally posted by Ever Circling Skeletal Family:
 If do vote for McCain it will be simply to cancel out a vote for Obama, but then I would have to go home and take a long hot shower after voting for a republican. Not voting seems to be a cowards way out so my only other choice would be one of the other no-hopes (not Nader though). That would make me feel good about voting but also disapointed that my vote meant nothing.
i find this idea of a "meaningless" or "wasted" vote to be a funny one.  there is no such thing as a wasted vote.  somehow it's only worth voting if it's a closely contested election?  even if your candidate is projected to win, a bigger majority = a stronger mandate.  your guy is going to lose?  don't let him/her lose by more than they have to.
 
 a vote for a third-party candidate is also very meaningful.  even if he/she know they're going to lose to a dem or a repub, they need & appreciate every vote they get.
Title: Re: Name calling and personal attacks
Post by: nkotb on October 15, 2008, 04:32:00 pm
Mankie, that story is 100% awesome.  
 
 How did the hair cut turn out?
 
 
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Originally posted by Ever Circling Skeletal Family:
 I was just in the barber shop in Jupiter and listening to the two barbers and two other (white male) customers talk about 'yer black president' 'yer can take my concealed weapons permit but arl still have mar gun' 'it ain't muurca when yer got a black called hussein in the white house' 'there's a reason it's called the white house' etc. etc. you get the pic. I got up to walk out and one of the barbers said, "uh, oh, seems we upset an Obama voter" so replied, "I wouldn't vote for Obama if he was the only candidate, but it has nothing to do with his skin color or middle name" then left and went to the hair butchery instead.
Title: Re: Name calling and personal attacks
Post by: Cali on October 15, 2008, 04:52:00 pm
that's dumb. why not just use  ditto or  cosign  
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Originally posted by Julian, certified WEBLEBRITY:
  2. THIS - A slang word used on popular internet forums which means "I agree with you 100%" or "that is very true."
Title: Re: Name calling and personal attacks
Post by: godsshoeshine on October 15, 2008, 05:04:00 pm
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Originally posted by Cali:
  that's dumb. why not just use  ditto or  cosign  
this
Title: Re: Name calling and personal attacks
Post by: Herr Professor Doktor Doom on October 15, 2008, 05:17:00 pm
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Originally posted by Cali:
  that's dumb. why not just use  ditto or  cosign  
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Originally posted by Julian, certified WEBLEBRITY:
  2. THIS - A slang word used on popular internet forums which means "I agree with you 100%" or "that is very true."
[/b]
He's trying to prove he's down with internet forum lingo.