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=> GENERAL DISCUSSION => Topic started by: ratioci nation on September 22, 2004, 05:04:00 pm
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To: Indie-leaning reviewers
From: Last Plane to Jakarta
Re: Interpol
Hi everybody. As you all know, the new Interpol album comes out next week; the promos went out early and the tracks leaked to the internet almost immediately, so you've all probably been waiting to have your say for some time. Soon, quite soon, you'll go public with your impressions of Interpol's second effort. We hope that all of you are old enough to know that use of the phrase "sophomore jinx" will make you look like morons, but then we are known for holding out hope even after seasoned gamblers have declined to take the odds.
We also worry that you're going to pull out the lame Joy Division comparisons again. It was so boring last time, you guys. It was boring because it looked like you'd all been cribbing from one another's reviews, for one thing, but it was also boring because it wasn't really true. Sure: it wasn't a completely specious comparison, and once you started looking for it, it seemed to be everywhere. But it outlived its usefulness in a big hurry, and in no time at all you could have constructed a write-your-own-Interpol-review engine using a PERL manual and a couple of references to Unknown Pleasures. It got to be the music-review equivalent of a police bulletin's "average height and build": useless, a waste of words, of no critical value.
While cleaning the kitchen yesterday morning, we listened to our advance copy of that new Interpol record and we took notes. Some of these may seem frivolous, but all of them are meant earnestly and have been tested for relevance; every one of them, with just a little elbow grease on your part, is guaranteed to increase the yield of crisp prose and insightful observation in your reviews. Hey, you're welcome!
John Cale
Warren Zevon
Pink Floyd's Animals
your favorite animals
The Animals
The Anti-Nowhere League
Robert Fripp's League of Gentlemen
Marilyn Monroe
Saccharine Trust with a different singer
a very depressed Dire Straits
Nico's The Marble Index
Nico in general
the first Cure album
the second Cure album
early Bauhaus
late Bauhaus
Peter Murphy's "Cuts You Up" screwed & chopped
Van Gogh's The Potato Eaters
the Strokes
"Rainy Days and Sundays"
the Sundays
"If I Was a Carpenter"
Graham Greene
a goth Aztec Camera
the Steve Miller Band
Sebadoh
the Wedding Present
weddings in general
Generalissimo Francisco Franco
the Lemon Pipers
a really obscure two-piece from southern California who nobody remembers called Supercollider, who were really good and screened old NASA footage while they played, and I really wanted to see them a bunch of times but I actually only saw them that one time and it was really great
the Beatles
Beat Happening
What's Happening!!!
the remake of the What's Happening!!! remake that'll hit screens circa 2135 and will only be seen by androids
Christian Death's Catastrophe Ballet
the Virgin Prunes
a really mellow Sex Gang Children
the cover of an album I have by a band called We Are Childhood Equals
Rothko if he'd lived to see fluoxetine
Jackson Pollock if he'd never been born
water
air
a late-morning alone in an old-growth forest
S.E. Hinton novels
the Andrea True Connection
the feeling you get from guys who are into conspiracy theory & pyrmaids & shit like that
the suspicion you have that some of these guys could have been you if you'd made just one wrong mental turn at just the wrong moment
"Suspicious Minds"
framed photographs of Elvis
framed photographs of Elvis in a dentist's office
framed photographs of Elvis in a dentist's office on a distant planet
Edward Elgar
Sonic Youth minus the noise fixation
an imaginary band named "Youth Sonique"
old-time hockey
breakfast in Paris
the sun setting after the monsoon rains
the Manic Street Preachers
Nirvana
the credits to a French movie playing in a theater in S.E. Portland on a rainy day
Sarah Records
Blanco y Negro
David Bowie's early singles on Pye
"Downtown"
Susan Amway-era Magnetic Fields
lack of water
lack of air
fluorescent light
a balcony in Adelaide, Sunday, August17th, 2003, 7:00 a.m.
the modern sense of duty
the postmodern suspicion of same
the truth not lying somewhere in between, contrary to what you might expect, but squarely in one of the two camps
Lee Hazlewood's Cowboy in Sweden
Roxy Music with an attitude problem
the Microphones
an old PSA for dental hygiene where the voiceover, a child, introduces the spot by saying "Happy Tooth discovers the real toothache!"
Radiohead
Criswell
the Stranglers
attempting to quit drinking without any help from anybody
shut up, fuck you, I can do it myself
thanks
Strawberry Switchblade's "Since Yesterday"
Tanita Tikaram's band's secret practice tapes
bedrooms whose walls are covered in band fliers
a mountain of skulls in the jungle
Suede
Pulp
Spandau Ballet
This Kind of Punishment
Mighty Joe Young
the C.B. craze-related TV show Movin' On, but not B.J. and the Bear
Sinead O'Conner if things had worked out differently
the band that Sinead's third son will start in 2024
the year 2024 itself, faintly visible there on the horizon
the horizon itself
our own mysterious attraction toward horizons in general
mysterious attractions in general
And there you have it! No points for referencing this list with a smarmy "comparing the new Interpol to these things only makes it look worse" or any phoned-in nonsense like that. Away, then: to the teletype!
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Question -- the Interpol show is on the 9:30 Club page, but tix aren't available thru tickets.com yet. Does this mean you can't get tix at the box office tonight either?
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That would be correct...tix not on sale yet.
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how about Joy Division?
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does anyone think this will sell out fast?
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pollard, where's that from?
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My magic 8 ball says "It is likely so". Depends on how expensive tickets are. I thought PJ Harvey would be sold out by now, but $35 is a hefty tag. So I would think if Interpol goes above $25 for a ticket, then chances are it won't sell immediately. But if it's $20 (give or take), expect those tickets to go like hot cakes.
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I'm wondering if I can wait and get tix at the Walkmen show tomorrow night....
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Tickets for Interpol supposedly not on sale until Sept. 30th...so plenty of time to plan.
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Originally posted by Bags:
pollard, where's that from?
http://www.lastplanetojakarta.com/index.php (http://www.lastplanetojakarta.com/index.php)
written by the guy from The Mountain Goats, John Darnielle
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Originally posted by bunnyman:
Tickets for Interpol supposedly not on sale until Sept. 30th...so plenty of time to plan.
On Sale on 09/23/04
10:00AM EDT
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why isn't kitchens of distinction on that list? or echo & the bunnymen? or the smiths (if only for that "this charming man" rip-off)?
joy division is too easy of a comparison to make. and lazy journalism. interpol has none of the urgency, danger, and innovation that joy division had.
that said, i do think interpol have some very good tunes. i just can't stand looking at their NYU-tainted grills.
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Wow, on sale tomorrow? SWEET!! Thanks Pollard.
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really? damn i might have to order online. i can't get to the club until sunday night to buy in person. it better be $20.
Originally posted by pollard:
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On Sale on 09/23/04
10:00AM EDT [/b][/QUOTE]
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i saw this monstrosity of a fat chick at my school wearing an interpol shirt. its nasty when the shirt gets pulled into rolls and you can count them...she was wearing eyeliner like it was a black eye. i wanted to throw up...
so i'll compare interpol to throwing up orange juice. both painful and will ruin your day. except throw up has more talent...
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why isn't kitchens of distinction on that list? or echo & the bunnymen? or the smiths (if only for that "this charming man" rip-off)?
joy division is too easy of a comparison to make. and lazy journalism. interpol has none of the urgency, danger, and innovation that joy division had.
that said, i do think interpol have some very good tunes. i just can't stand looking at their NYU-tainted grills.
i also don't really understand the Joy Division reference. The two groups have completely different feels to them. Joy Division was way more dark, creative, amd relevant (i.e. not abstract) lyrically than Interpol. I'd also copy that opinion with Bauhaus and Radiohead (especially more recent Radiohead). Interpol definitely doesn't sound like those two at all. However, i don't know who they do sound like --- maybe the depressed Dire Straits or Sundays references -- hah.
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Originally posted by flawd101:
so i'll compare interpol to throwing up orange juice.
Man, you crack me up.
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Interpol
w/ Secret Machines
@ 9:30 Club â?¢ Washington, DC
TUE. NOV. 9
$24.
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Originally posted by bunnyman:
Tickets for Interpol supposedly not on sale until Sept. 30th...so plenty of time to plan.
Bullshit. Some of us have had our tickets for a couple weeks now. Once they go on sale to the rest of the world, I suspect they will go fast.
My favorite new song is Public Pervert but, so far, it hasn't been on any of their live shows yet. I suspect that they are saving it for a later tour so they have something to change up the mix a bit.
Getting a boot tonight of a live show of their's from a couple nights ago in the UK. The set list reflects a good mix of old and new. Surprising how many older songs are still in the set and how few newer ones. Of course, they just toured the US with Curiosa so maybe they'll change up their set.
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Originally posted by lily1:
Interpol
w/ Secret Machines
@ 9:30 Club â?¢ Washington, DC
TUE. NOV. 9
$24.
goddamn thats expensive, especially after going to 3 Muse shows in a row....how ever will i afford all of this...
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Speaking of Interpol tickets went onsale 5 minutes ago....
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oy vey...just paid $60.25 for two tix after all the fees and crud -- a 25% surcharge per ticket. what a rip.
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Originally posted by Fico:
Speaking of Interpol tickets went onsale 5 minutes ago....
I'm in
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Originally posted by grotty:
Originally posted by Fico:
Speaking of Interpol tickets went onsale 5 minutes ago....
I'm in [/b]
looks like I'll be shut out of this one....well, I have money to buy 2 tickets when i go to see the Hip....Libertines and Death Cab, or Libertines and Interpol....or Death Cab and Interpol....hmmmmmmmm
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Originally posted by joz:
oy vey...just paid $60.25 for two tix after all the fees and crud -- a 25% surcharge per ticket. what a rip.
Yup!, I got 4 tickets...$18 service charge, $3.25 for pick-up/will call... a rip-off, absolute rip off...but I know the response I'll get so I'll digress...
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Originally posted by joz:
oy vey...just paid $60.25 for two tix after all the fees and crud -- a 25% surcharge per ticket. what a rip.
i'm going to the toronto show.
i paid $20 (CDN) and $4(CDN) for service charges.
.. which means it was like $3US.
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shave off the goatee and go to business school
Originally posted by sonickteam2:
Originally posted by lily1:
Interpol
w/ Secret Machines
@ 9:30 Club â?¢ Washington, DC
TUE. NOV. 9
$24.
goddamn thats expensive, especially after going to 3 Muse shows in a row....how ever will i afford all of this... [/b]
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I wonder how much Muse tickets will be? At leat I get paid by next Thursday. Jeez. $30 for Interpol! They're great, but that's a lotta dough. God bless the 9:30 Box Office.
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gonna be a rough week...muse on monday, interpol on tuesday. i'll need the rest of the week to recover. anyone know when muse may go on sale? i'm guessing tix will be pricey for that one too.
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i had the same dilemma sonick...chose DCFC and Interpol.
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Originally posted by bunnyman:
I wonder how much Muse tickets will be? At leat I get paid by next Thursday. Jeez. $30 for Interpol! They're great, but that's a lotta dough. God bless the 9:30 Box Office.
The problem is that shows like these are bound to sell-out before 7pm when at least some of us working people can make it to the club to buy tickets at the box office...what can I say..I'll prolly be $22 down if the show doesn't sell out by the evening..
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Go for a lunchtime jog to the club and get tickets like I always do. Probably about 5 or 6 miles round trip, if you work in the city.
Originally posted by Fico:
Originally posted by bunnyman:
I wonder how much Muse tickets will be? At leat I get paid by next Thursday. Jeez. $30 for Interpol! They're great, but that's a lotta dough. God bless the 9:30 Box Office.
The problem is that shows like these are bound to sell-out before 7pm when at least some of us working people can make it to the club to buy tickets at the box office...what can I say..I'll prolly be $22 down if the show doesn't sell out by the evening.. [/b]
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Originally posted by joz:
i had the same dilemma sonick...chose DCFC and Interpol.
yeah, i may pick that too...except I am seeing Muse 3 times in 5 days before the Interpol show, so i may just be too tired...and we'll see if Interpol tix are around on Sat night.
wouldnt be so bad if i didnt need to buy 2 tickets for all these shows! :eek:
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Originally posted by Rhett Miller:
Go for a lunchtime jog to the club and get tickets like I always do. Probably about 5 or 6 miles round trip, if you work in the city.
can you pick me up some Interpol tickets on your lunch break then, jogger boy?
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Sorry, today I am weightlifter boy.
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Then you'd definitely be able to pick up some tickets.
Originally posted by Rhett Miller:
Sorry, today I am weightlifter boy.
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Originally posted by Rhett Miller:
Sorry, today I am weightlifter boy.
whatever you say.
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death cab and interpol would be my vote.
and we just paid $117 for 4. but i can't get to the club until sunday night and i'm 95% sure it will be sold out by then so we had to give into the ridiculous fees.
Originally posted by sonickteam2:
looks like I'll be shut out of this one....well, I have money to buy 2 tickets when i go to see the Hip....Libertines and Death Cab, or Libertines and Interpol....or Death Cab and Interpol....hmmmmmmmm [/b][/QUOTE]
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actually the full charge for the toronto ticket including fees and shipping was $20.45 (US).
i love canadia.
so i get to go up there, eat great food, see interpol, see explosions in the sky twice and see friends.
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Originally posted by snailhook:
joy division is too easy of a comparison to make. and lazy journalism. interpol has none of the urgency, danger, and innovation that joy division had.
That's true on a more analytical level. But it's fairly accurate to say they simply sound like Joy Division at times. Not terribly useful as far as a review goes, but JD's sound is an obvious influence on them.
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you want places to eat in toronto? i got a whole list after my trip there in the spring:
Jamie Kennedy Wine Bar
9 Church St.
Toronto, ON M5E 1M2
Phone: (416) 362-1957
Fax: (416) 362-5838
Salad King (Linda upstairs)
335 Yonge St.
Toronto, ON M5B1R7
Phone: (416) 971-7041
Tutti Matti:
364 Adelaide W
Toronto, ON M5V 1R7
Phone: (416) 597-8839
Fax: (416) 597-8293
College St., Mars (Diner)
Fran's Diner, Yonge and St. Clair
Over Easy, near Bata Shoe Museum
Bloor, Nataraj (Indian) or Country Style (Hungarian)
East/Danforth, Astoria (Greek)
Kensington, My Market Bakery
Spadina, Pho Huong (Vietnamese)
Front and Jarvis, Hothouse (Brunch)
Yorkville, Hemingways (Bar)
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well one place i know i'm eating more than once is vegetarian haven (formerly health haven over by the airport by mississauga).
i stopped by there again last august on the way back from montreal, but they were closed -- the sign said something about some expo or something, but i'm wondering if it had anthing to do with the blackout as well...
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dont forget the revolving restaurant in the CN tower....its the world highest retaurant or something
and pretty damn good for a tourist trap :)
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Originally posted by sonickteam2:
dont forget the revolving restaurant in the CN tower....its the world highest retaurant or something
and pretty damn good for a tourist trap :)
hah. i really don't like heights (i don't like driving over the bridge to get to canada even), so i won't be going up there. we thought about going up the first time i went, but i didn't want to pay to go up.. heh
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Honestly, I don't think I've ever heard an INTERPOL song before. Do they suck?
Joy Division sucks.(Muy esposa like's them, though)
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ok
my favourite place to eat in Toronto is Magic Oven Pizza on Jefferson...
or "Nawlins" on KSW (its a jazz club,w/Cajun food, of course)
but everytime i come back theres 5 new restaurants i've never seen before!
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Whats funny here is that The Secret Machines are touring with Muse AND Interpol.
perhaps they are switching in Philly as Muse plays with SM on 11/6 and then SM plays with Interpol on 11/7 BOTH at the Electric Factory....thats odd isnt it?
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I know it's all about personal taste...but Joy Division doesn't suck. I can appreciate someone saying "I really don't like them". That's cool. There are many artists and bands that don't fit my taste, but I would never, ever say that they suck (Blondie being an example...maybe The Birthday Party, whose music never stuck in my head). Of course, I'm sorry to be nit-picky over the word "suck". I just happen to think Joy Division's music has a passion, spark and creativity that borders is absolute genius. It has a realness to it that comes from 4 people whose passion for music couldn't possibly more genuine. Part of being a music fan for me is recognizing if the talent is there, even if I don't enjoy the end result.
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Originally posted by bunnyman:
I know it's all about personal taste...but Joy Division doesn't suck. I can appreciate someone saying "I really don't like them". That's cool. There are many artists and bands that don't fit my taste, but I would never, ever say that they suck (Blondie being an example...maybe The Birthday Party, whose music never stuck in my head). Of course, I'm sorry to be nit-picky over the word "suck". I just happen to think Joy Division's music has a passion, spark and creativity that borders is absolute genius. It has a realness to it that comes from 4 people whose passion for music couldn't possibly more genuine. Part of being a music fan for me is recognizing if the talent is there, even if I don't enjoy the end result.
JOY DIVISION SUCKS!!!SUX!!!!
THEY HAVE GREAT ORAL TECHNIQUE!
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THAT they do have ;)
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Originally posted by flawd101:
JOY DIVISION SUCKS!!!SUX!!!!
THEY HAVE GREAT ORAL TECHNIQUE!
says he who was born AFTER Ian Curtis died.
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i've actually heard joy division and don't care either way. not my cup of mountain dew code red.
i have seen many of the Good charlotte/new found glory punks wear joy division shirts. its probably because hot topic used to sell them...
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i actually really dislike new order.
but i love joy division