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=> GENERAL DISCUSSION => Topic started by: beedubyah on September 30, 2005, 08:53:00 am
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Dear god. What an amazing show. I dont care who you are, Oasis fan or not, you have to admit this was an excellent gig. 4th time Ive heard them and this one I believe took the cake. From start to finish it was just a hell of a show. Liam's voice absolutely filled the place and the guitars just echoed throughout. I was about on the 20th row and the acoustics were excellent.
I thought the new stuff mixed in really well with the older songs. Turn up the Sun, Lyla, Bring it on Down and Morning Glory that is a hell of a way to start off a show.
Liam was Liam *kinda* in that, he was yelling at the sound tech about the vocals, but he was shaking hands with all of the fans and actually dove into the crowd during the encore. Noel was talkative and very appreciative as well. It was just a really good vibe.
Fans were really into it. The place was almost filled. (And here I thought they were 1 step away from making an appearance at the 930 club) I could hear the waves of people behind me singing to all the songs.
And the encore was a hell of a way to finish. My Generation with Kasabian on backing vocals and them dancing around like morons. Sensory overload....It was a great way to end it.
I know all of you pretentious hipsters will thumb your collective noses up at these guys, but Im tellin ya, for balls out, solid rocknroll...No one does it better. By far, the best show Ive seen this year.
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Oasis are one of the best 'rock' bands of recent years and I don't give a toss what the uber-hipster- the band can't be any good if people have heard of them-knobs thing! Liam is a bit of a dick, but seems to be growing up somewhat at last.
But.....Oasis are one of those bands who would prosper very well without the lead singer, Noel would just take over, and he is the talented Gallagher!
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<~~~~~~~~~ Currently biting his tongue
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Originally posted by kosmo vinyl:
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You were there right? Show did nothing for you?
Give me the Decemberists any day or (insert name of super-cool underground band that Ive never heard of)
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I was amazed the show went on. 7pm and they were bringing in the subwolfers and monitors. Some truck driver nearly trashed the whole show. I commend them for getting it up and running as fast as they did.
Bummed to miss Kasabian, but Oasis did a good set.
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the show did very little for me, in fact i had to listen to Cast on the way home to floss it out of my mind...
just because i enjoy the Decemberists, The Magic Numbers, The Coral, doesn't make me a hipster. in fact i saw Oasis on their second US tour in support of "Definitely Maybe". the one where Liam plopped down on the stage when he wasn't singing.
all i heard last night was plodding lifeless rock, a blanted rip off of a T. Rex song, and actual frogs could croak better than Liam. while I was heading to my car they launched into "Live Forever" one of the few songs I would have wanted to hear, and it was painful to bear...
i totally agree with Mank on Noel being the more talented one, at least he can carry a tune..
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I read that Liam said Franz Ferdinand were the Right Said Fred of the new millenium.
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Originally posted by kosmo vinyl:
the show did very little for me, in fact i had to listen to Cast on the way home to floss it out of my mind...
Oooh Cast...I heard theyre GREAT. Youre entitled to your opinion. Just cant see it though...
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Originally posted by kosmo vinyl:
i totally agree with Mank on Noel being the more talented one, at least he can carry a tune..
On one of the cable channels over here (can't remember which one) if a show finishes a few minutes early they throw in a music video or clip of a concert....a nice touch actually.
Anyhoooo....one evening they showed a clip of Oasis in concert, it was Wonderwall sung by Liam. Oh, how he murdered such a great song. I agree with Kosmo that Liam is a terrible singer and butchers most songs. I saw them several times in the early days and loved the energy, which is why I say they are one of the best 'rock' bands..."it's the fook'n energy man...no wot ar meen?" (as Liam would say) but without a doubt the most musically entertaining part of their shows was always when Noel came on stage to do his solo bit.
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It's really hit or miss with Liam. When he's on, Noel is no match for him vocally. Last night was my 6th gig and his voice sounded as good as ever. I attribute that to the band having the previous night off.
A few other times I've seen them his voice has been atrocious. Listen to the "Familiar to Millions" live album as an example.
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I'm with Kosmo. We spent the Oasis set hanging with the staph at the 932.
Does anyone know the reason for the delay yesterday? I was really stoked to see Kasabian so the outcome was kinda disappointing for me. We basically paid $40 to see Jet. I'm sure some of you will find that ironically satisfying. :)
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Originally posted by Roadbike Mankie:
Anyhoooo....one evening they showed a clip of Oasis in concert, it was Wonderwall sung by Liam. Oh, how he murdered such a great song.
I agree with Kosmo that Liam is a terrible singer and butchers most songs.
When theyre halfway through a world tour Liam can REALLY struggle with his voice. At ACL and a few shows proceeding he was really struggling.
I heard a live webcast of Oasis from the KROQ thang in LA late one night a week or so ago and he was STRUGGLING. Really really bad. Like watching your favorite team get blown out. Embarassing.
I had a report from a friend in Atlanta that he was on point a few days ago and he was amazing last night. Liam's not a great singer by any stretch. He only can hit a few notes (thats why they have Noel), but hes got a great rock voice in my opinion. It was on point last night.
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Having never seen Oasis and not expecting much from them live , I must say that I thought the show was great. Liam sounded great, the sound was crystal clear and the show was fun. Obviously, if you don't like Oasis and their songs then you probably wouldn't enjoy the show.
Little disappointed in the reduced Jet set and non-existant Kasabian, but the Oasis portion definitely made up for it!
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Yeah, what exactly happened with Kasabian? I was really sorry not to see them too...would have been the third time this year. Was it related to that truck driver incident mentioned above?
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Also, forgot to mention...shouldn't Oasis really be playing longer sets by now? The first two albums were represented along with the new one but...everything in between was dropped. They could throw in a couple of extra tunes.
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Originally posted by Roadbike Mankie:
Oasis are one of the best 'rock' bands of recent years and I don't give a toss what the uber-hipster- the band can't be any good if people have heard of them-knobs thing! Liam is a bit of a dick, but seems to be growing up somewhat at last.
I guess I'm not the only person who has heard this kind of stuff on this board. :)
Sonick must be asleep today or else he woulda had something to say about this quote.
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Originally posted by RandyNA74:
Also, forgot to mention...shouldn't Oasis really be playing longer sets by now?
I honestly think they do it to preserve Liam's voice. They played what, 19 songs? Actually felt about right, though theres an infinite number of songs Id love to hear...
A prolonged Noel acoustic set would definitely work...
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Originally posted by Rob_Gee:
Sonick must be asleep today or else he woulda had something to say about this quote.
Yeah man...I was really expecting a plethora of derogatory, snobby, pretentious remarks and I only get 1....This is all very disappointing.
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Originally posted by beedubyah:
Originally posted by Rob_Gee:
Sonick must be asleep today or else he woulda had something to say about this quote.
Yeah man...I was really expecting a plethora of derogatory, snobby, pretentious remarks and I only get 1....This is all very disappointing. [/b]
They're all saving up for the Coldplay thread.
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Originally posted by beedubyah:
Yeah man...I was really expecting a plethora of derogatory, snobby, pretentious remarks and I only get 1....This is all very disappointing. [/QB]
If your talking about Kosmo, I wouldnt say it was derogatory, snobby or pretentious. I think it was an actual honest opinion with no slamming. Those I'm sure you can appreciate.
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i thought the show was great...excellent sound and song selection.
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Originally posted by RandyNA74:
Yeah, what exactly happened with Kasabian? I was really sorry not to see them too...would have been the third time this year. Was it related to that truck driver incident mentioned above?
thatguy can give you the official lowdown... but from what he told me last night one of the semi's carrying oasis's gear didn't arrive until after gates open, thus delaying the shows setup. since there is a curfew at Merriweather it was nessecary to drop Kasabain so they could finish the show in time. so it was either cut short Oasis or drop Kasabian. As people were paying to see Oasis and not Kasabian...
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when "Definitely Mabye" came out i was a bit MADFERIT, definitely something i listened to loads. about the time WTSMG came out i read somewhere that Noel wrote his lyrics while watching tv and taking a closer listen it was apparent the songs were little more than a series of cliches strung together. at that point i align myself with the Blur camp.
then Oasis became an arena level band in the US and the reports from the shows were pretty dismal, exceedingly loud feedback soaked events. i lost interest and haven't heard any thing new by the band.
liam's voice was never great to begin with and clearly "Cigarettes and Alcohol" have taken their toll on it. dug out "Definitely Mabye" recently and besides the obvious singles on it, it doesn't stand the test of time with some serious filler on it.
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Not sure where other people were standing that made them say the sound was great, but the sound on the lawn was terrible at the start. The first 4 or 5 songs sounded like it was only coming out of the stage amps and then they fixed the other speakers and the vocals and it got slightly better, but still not by much. I was hoping for a more sonic sound, but was disappointed a bit. Towards the end it sounded fine, but still could have been a bit more clear. I should have used my seat ticket to check out what it sounded like closer, but didn't want to leave my peeps. Decent show all in all. Plus ya gotta love incoherent ramblings on stage.
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Originally posted by kosmo vinyl:
when "Definitely Mabye" came out i was a bit MADFERIT, definitely something i listened to loads. about the time WTSMG came out i read somewhere that Noel wrote his lyrics while watching tv and taking a closer listen it was apparent the songs were little more than a series of cliches strung together. at that point i align myself with the Blur camp.
then Oasis became an arena level band in the US and the reports from the shows were pretty dismal, exceedingly loud feedback soaked events. i lost interest and haven't heard any thing new by the band.
liam's voice was never great to begin with and clearly "Cigarettes and Alcohol" have taken their toll on it. dug out "Definitely Mabye" recently and besides the obvious singles on it, it doesn't stand the test of time with some serious filler on it.
So what you are saying is you liked Oasis when it was cool to like them. Then when the whole popularity thing became a bit too overblown for you, you decided not to like them anymore?
I think Heathen Chemistry is a pretty great album.
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of course that's what he's saying. any band playing big places and selling lots of albums sucks for these knobs.
as for the comment about filler on definitely maybe...you'd have to be kook to say that much of anything on that album is filler with the possible exception of digsy's diner, and noel would tell you as much.
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what i'm saying is that i lost interest in the band , and they didn't do much to spark my attention again...
i lose interest in groups all the time, Ben Folds Five, R.E.M., Soundgarden, etc... I also rediscover things too, maybe I'll pickup "Heathen Chemistry" and give it whirl.
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Again, one of the semis didn't show until 7pm. That is when Kasabian was supposed to go on. Other than "that is when it showed" no word on the reason for the delay.
That truck contained the monitors, subwoofers, and a lot of the front-of-house gear. They didn't have the PA or the stage sound set before Jet came on stage. So for both bands they were both mixing on the fly, which is not easy. Been there done that.
The fact that the show went off was amazing to me.
The lawn I think did sound pretty bad all night. There was a 2-2.5khz honk in the sound, and because of the air the treble would come and go. I think that is why we are hearing to disparate reviews of the show, I bet it sounded a lot better in the pavillion (I was a lawn person). I don't know if they had the lawn PA going or not, thought I saw lights flashing but didn't really hear it (maybe it just throws to the back lawn). Sometimes though you could hear the sound "correctly" and Liam's voice was on. It would then go away, so I blame the PA not the man.
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Originally posted by kosmo vinyl:
maybe I'll pickup "Heathen Chemistry" and give it whirl.
Do yourself a favor, listen to "Don't Believe the Truth" instead. Their strongest since DM/WTSMG.
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Originally posted by jdr:
as for the comment about filler on definitely maybe...you'd have to be kook to say that much of anything on that album is filler with the possible exception of digsy's diner, and noel would tell you as much.
Id have to agree with that. There's no denying their later songs dont match up to the earlier ones (though the last album I really dig) but when Noel was on from 93-98, everything he touched was brilliant...
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as has been posted already, a truck carrying gear integral to the show arrived well after gates, actually right as the show was about to be cancelled. in order to get everything set up and ready, kasabian's set had to be dropped.
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Originally posted by thatguy:
in order to get everything set up and ready, kasabian's set had to be dropped.
In that case, did they still get paid and get the night off?
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Originally posted by SPARX:
Originally posted by thatguy:
in order to get everything set up and ready, kasabian's set had to be dropped.
In that case, did they still get paid and get the night off? [/b]
What if like Ozzfest they paid to play, would they get a rebate?
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word on the kasabian board is that the truck with oasis gear was "stolen" and only to be recovered at the last minute... somehow this seems a bit far fetched..
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Oasis has their moments, but let's be honest here, their music is at its core prefab classic rock. Not that there's anything wrong with that, mind you.
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Great show. Great seats.
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The show was fantastic, Kasabian aside. People who are acting like Liam was off are nuts, and people who act like they didn't enjoy it are just pathetic.
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I went to the show in Philly over the summer and must say they played more songs. The set list was short and the same can be said of the Coldplay show last night. I'm a huge Oasis fan and loved all the albums. The show was great and I was suprised how many peolpe were there. I do have to say the BRMC show on Wed. night was best of the three that I went to (BRMC, Oasis, Coldplay)
Oasis is and will always be a mainstay in rock music. They may not kiss everyones ass like Coldplay, but they fuckin rock.
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Yikes did I have some opinions about the Oasis show at Merriweather that almost didn’t happen ;D