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=> GENERAL DISCUSSION => Topic started by: mankie on April 28, 2004, 12:50:00 pm
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If there's no overtaking in F1.....how the hell did Schumie start second but finish FIRST?
:D
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I guess car racing is the new soccer
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Does Formula 1 have it's own ballet, like NASCAR?
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NASCAR Takes Up Ballet
Jenefer Davies Mansfield wants to make one thing clear: Ward Burton will not be wearing a tutu.
The NASCAR driver will, however, be on hand for the debut of Mansfield's NASCAR Ballet next weekend in Roanoke. Burton will help television newscaster Mike Stevens provide live commentary during the Roanoke Ballet Theatre's performance, which should cause blue-blooded dilettantes to blow a few gaskets. Twenty unitard-clad dancers, representing stock cars, will "gracefully careen" around a banked horseshoe-shaped track for 90 minutes, according to the ballet's Web site.
Of course, this being NASCAR, there will be crashes -- "stuff's going to blow up," promised Mansfield, who received her MFA from George Washington University in 1995. But other dancers, belonging to the "pit crew," will be on hand to pick up the fallen dancers.
"I would say this is by far one of the most bizarre projects I've ever been associated with, no question," said an amused Stevens, who described the hooded dancers' appearance as a cross between bobsledders and members of the Blue Man Group.
The "cars" will be adorned with logos of the event's corporate backers -- which also will air commercials on three monitors that will "broadcast" the "race" to the assembled "fans."
"Nobody can understand what we're talking about," admitted Mansfield, whose group has been bombarded with calls from confused NASCAR followers who have seen advertisements for the performance. "They're sort of surprised and excited, and that's kind of our thing; to re-excite people about what dance can be."
The three performances of NASCAR ballet are timed to coincide with the Advance Auto Parts 500 next weekend in nearby Martinsville, Va. Mansfield said a different dancer will finish first at each performance, but she declined to specify who would dance into Victory Lane.
"Everybody keeps asking me that, but I keep saying, 'Well you have to come and see it,' " she explained. "I wish we could take bets."
Post article (http://www.washingtonpost.com/ac2/wp-dyn?pagename=article&node=&contentId=A59830-2004Apr7¬Found=true)
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Originally posted by ggwâ?¢:
I guess car racing is the new soccer
You might be onto something....."auto-footie"
That would be a lot of fun, only you'd have to have a pretty big footie pitch to accomodate 22 cars.
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We saw a poster for this when we were in Roanoke. Could have went on Saturday, but no good drivers were there. Ward Burton was there on Thurs, but we weren't.
Very weird.
Originally posted by ggwâ?¢:
Does Formula 1 have it's own ballet, like NASCAR?
<img src="http://www.foxsports.com/netapp/blobs/active/4/1/2326536_7_1.jpg" alt=" - " />
NASCAR Takes Up Ballet
Jenefer Davies Mansfield wants to make one thing clear: Ward Burton will not be wearing a tutu.
The NASCAR driver will, however, be on hand for the debut of Mansfield's NASCAR Ballet next weekend in Roanoke. Burton will help television newscaster Mike Stevens provide live commentary during the Roanoke Ballet Theatre's performance, which should cause blue-blooded dilettantes to blow a few gaskets. Twenty unitard-clad dancers, representing stock cars, will "gracefully careen" around a banked horseshoe-shaped track for 90 minutes, according to the ballet's Web site.
Of course, this being NASCAR, there will be crashes -- "stuff's going to blow up," promised Mansfield, who received her MFA from George Washington University in 1995. But other dancers, belonging to the "pit crew," will be on hand to pick up the fallen dancers.
"I would say this is by far one of the most bizarre projects I've ever been associated with, no question," said an amused Stevens, who described the hooded dancers' appearance as a cross between bobsledders and members of the Blue Man Group.
The "cars" will be adorned with logos of the event's corporate backers -- which also will air commercials on three monitors that will "broadcast" the "race" to the assembled "fans."
"Nobody can understand what we're talking about," admitted Mansfield, whose group has been bombarded with calls from confused NASCAR followers who have seen advertisements for the performance. "They're sort of surprised and excited, and that's kind of our thing; to re-excite people about what dance can be."
The three performances of NASCAR ballet are timed to coincide with the Advance Auto Parts 500 next weekend in nearby Martinsville, Va. Mansfield said a different dancer will finish first at each performance, but she declined to specify who would dance into Victory Lane.
"Everybody keeps asking me that, but I keep saying, 'Well you have to come and see it,' " she explained. "I wish we could take bets."
Post article (http://www.washingtonpost.com/ac2/wp-dyn?pagename=article&node=&contentId=A59830-2004Apr7¬Found=true)
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Originally posted by ggwâ?¢:
Does Formula 1 have it's own ballet, like NASCAR?
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I bet they have this for the same reason there's cheer leaders at runny-catchy and bouncy-netty games....so there's something interesting to see.
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Originally posted by Bollocks:
If there's no overtaking in F1.....how the hell did Schumie start second but finish FIRST?
:D
Uh, he came out of the pits ahead of Button. I would exactly call that an overtake, and it certainly wasn't a pass.
The first lap was exciting between Montoya and Schumie. The rest was not.
The NASCAR finishing under caution was just as bad, although the race was exciting to that point.
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NASCAR has had the finishing under caution rule for 50 years, it's not like it's anything new.
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Originally posted by vansmack:
Originally posted by Bollocks:
If there's no overtaking in F1.....how the hell did Schumie start second but finish FIRST?
:D
Uh, he came out of the pits ahead of Button. I would exactly call that an overtake, and it certainly wasn't a pass.
The first lap was exciting between Montoya and Schumie. The rest was not.
The NASCAR finishing under caution was just as bad, although the race was exciting to that point. [/b]
Starting second and finishing first....somebody overtook somebody else at some point.
Oh, I get it....now they have to overtake each other at designated places for you all to call it overtaking. Let them know which parts of the track you'd like them to overtake each other and I'm sure they'll try to accomodate.
NASCAR! The WWF of auto-racing.
BTW...why do all the NASCAR inbreds hate Jeff Gordon so much?
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I've been to NASCAR and CART; NASCAR is way more exciting.
I can't imagine that F1 would be as exciting as NASCAR; if you're there in person you can't see the whole track. Plus, there is much less passing in F1. Passing, in my opinion, is the most exciting part of any racing event.
Rednecks hate Jeff Gordon simply because he's not one of them. He's clean cut, good looking (in a conventional way), not Southern, and panders to sponsors more than anyone else.
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Originally posted by Bollocks:
Starting second and finishing first....somebody overtook somebody else at some point.
You're right. Let me rephrase what I wrote.
Uh, he came out of the pits ahead of Button. I would exactly call that the most exciting overtake an overtake, and it certainly wasn't a pass.
Originally posted by Bollocks:
Oh, I get it....now they have to overtake each other at designated places for you all to call it overtaking. Let them know which parts of the track you'd like them to overtake each other and I'm sure they'll try to accomodate.
It's not where as much as it's how often, but when he only pertinent overtake happens in the pits, well that's just the pits.
And don't get me wrong, I watch F1 and enjoy it, but I think you chose the wrong race to brag about an exciting overtake in F1. It was about as exciting as the pullover so Schumie could win.
Originally posted by Bollocks:
NASCAR! The WWF of auto-racing.
BTW...why do all the NASCAR inbreds hate Jeff Gordon so much?
He didn't pay his dues. He bought his ride and says stupid things like this:
"Well, let's just say this -- my fans are drinking Pepsi," Gordon said. "They're not drinking Budweiser. So that automatically puts them in a different position when it comes to decision-making."
Arrogant-holier-than-thou prick. Had the Jr. won the race, Gordon fans would have joined the rest of the crowd and littered the track - it wasn't just Jr's fans. If this weeks race ends under similar circumstances, you can bet your sweet ass that I will throw debir on the track after travelling as far as I'm going to see the race. NASCAR had plenty of time to make the race go to green for the finish and they dropped the ball.
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And I will pick up your debris, tap you on the shoulder, and say "Excuse me, I think you dropped this."
Originally posted by vansmack:
[ If this weeks race ends under similar circumstances, you can bet your sweet ass that I will throw debir on the track after travelling as far as I'm going to see the race. NASCAR had plenty of time to make the race go to green for the finish and they dropped the ball. [/QB]
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Originally posted by Bollocks:
BTW...why do all the NASCAR inbreds hate Jeff Gordon so much?
http://www.gaytona.com (http://www.gaytona.com)
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What everyone forgets and I keep reiterating...F1 is a TEAM sport, just like pro-cycling. It takes a whole team for Schumie to win the championship 6 going on 7 times, and if his team member pulls aside at the finish line...that's part of being in the team. It's not as if the BAR car pulled over to let the Ferrari win that race and therefore beat the MacClaren for the championship.
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*sings* just because you're losing....
Fucking sore loser Nazi bastards!!
http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport2/hi/motorsport/formula_one/3666103.stm (http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport2/hi/motorsport/formula_one/3666103.stm)
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Originally posted by vansmack:
He didn't pay his dues. He bought his ride and says stupid things like this:
"Well, let's just say this -- my fans are drinking Pepsi," Gordon said. "They're not drinking Budweiser. So that automatically puts them in a different position when it comes to decision-making."
Arrogant-holier-than-thou prick. Had the Jr. won the race, Gordon fans would have joined the rest of the crowd and littered the track - it wasn't just Jr's fans. If this weeks race ends under similar circumstances, you can bet your sweet ass that I will throw debir on the track after travelling as far as I'm going to see the race. NASCAR had plenty of time to make the race go to green for the finish and they dropped the ball.
At least Gordon can back-up his cockiness with his track record. When he was on, his performance was nothing short of phenomenal. Jr., on the other hand, hasn't even won a dozen races yet (I don't think). His biggest success is being the son of a legend. Listening to his fans, you'd think he was ready to usurp Richard Petty as the King of Nascar, when he really hasn't been all that impressive.
However, I do agree that ending the race under caution is very lame. They could have easily red-flagged it and given the crowd an exciting finish. As for throwing debris, there's no excuse. Stop acting like a bunch of babies. We'll see how happy they are when Nascar bans coolers from the races and they all have to stand in line for 20 minutes for their $6 cups of beer.
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Originally posted by My Balls Can DJ:
And I will pick up your debris, tap you on the shoulder, and say "Excuse me, I think you dropped this."
Touche.
Thanks, now I might even feel a little guilty when I throw my shit on private land that I paid to enter and was expected to be entertained and wasn't, when I could have been.
Maybe I'll just letter instead. It will likely depend on whether I've been beer or Mountain Dew I suppose. It's a good thing Tony Stewart fans don't wave chain saws purchased at Home Depot in the air when he wins.
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Gordon may have bought his ride (how do you figure this...because he married into the NASCAR family?), but Earnhardt Jr. inherited his.
Sort of like Kerry and Bush.
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Originally posted by My Balls Can DJ:
Gordon may have bought his ride (how do you figure this...because he married into the NASCAR family?), but Earnhardt Jr. inherited his.
Sort of like Kerry and Bush.
Inherited is the NASCAR way.
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Originally posted by Skeeter:
At least Gordon can back-up his cockiness with his track record. When he was on, his performance was nothing short of phenomenal. Jr., on the other hand, hasn't even won a dozen races yet (I don't think). His biggest success is being the son of a legend. Listening to his fans, you'd think he was ready to usurp Richard Petty as the King of Nascar, when he really hasn't been all that impressive.
Well Gordon is in his 12th full season while Junior is in his 4th or 5th, but you're right, Gordon's 64 victories in 12 seasons is very impressive. Junior has only won 9 races.