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=> GENERAL DISCUSSION => Topic started by: kosmo vinyl on October 06, 2005, 12:53:00 pm
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On Paul Weller's list of must own records in Entertainment Weekly, he includes on it Bob Marley & The Wailers "Soul Rebel". Having never heard the album his recommendation has peaked my interest.
What I'm curious about though is it best to go ahead and buy album this straight out? Or are one of the zillion compliations of Marley's early stuff a good way to go.
Any recommendations?
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I'm not at home, so I can't check on this til tonight, but I believe that I have this cd. If it is the one I am thinking of, It's one of those bargain cheapo Marley cd's that you can get at for 9.99 at best buy and it comes with two or three other cds. It is good early Bob Marley, some early versions of popular songs that he did with the Wailers. Not the best sound quality I might add.
Long story short, if you went out and bought it, I would imagine it would be really cheap.
Originally posted by kosmo vinyl:
On Paul Weller's list of must own records in Entertainment Weekly, he includes on it Bob Marley & The Wailers "Soul Rebel". Having never heard the album his recommendation has peaked my interest.
What I'm curious about though is it best to go ahead and buy album this straight out? Or are one of the zillion compliations of Marley's early stuff a good way to go.
Any recommendations?
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There's tons of Marley stuff put out by marginal labels so it's hard to tell what Weller might be referring to.
Amazon shows three titles.
One is compilation of stuff (http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/detail/-/B00004R60B/qid=1128621682/sr=2-1/ref=pd_bbs_b_2_1/103-1109433-3496603?v=glance&s=music) that is better available on the proper Tuff Gong releases.
This one (http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/detail/-/B000077SXF/103-1109433-3496603?v=glance&s=music&vi=samples#disc_1) looks like a nice selection of songs, many of them early stuff and some Tosh songs.
This one (http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/detail/-/B00000IR09/qid=1128621755/sr=2-3/ref=pd_bbs_b_2_3/103-1109433-3496603?v=glance&s=music) is an interesting mix of older stuff and some newer less popular stuff.
Like PJ said, the quality on these no-name label discs can be sub-par.
I think the Songs of Freedom boxset is great, albeit expensive. It's career-spanning, so you get some of everything.
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no he's specifically referring to the "soul rebel" album, i was just wondering if there any good same period comps or to just get "soul rebel" instead
edit should be "Soul Rebels" sorry for the typos...
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The second one is the most likely...
I was just wondering about
Trenchtown Rock: The Anthology 1969-78 link (http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/detail/-/B000059Z8W/qid=1128622545/sr=2-1/ref=pd_bbs_b_2_1/104-8706445-5302361?v=glance&s=music)
or
Trenchtown Days: The Birth of a Legend (http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/detail/-/B00005NBYY/qid=1128622545/sr=1-1/ref=sr_1_1/104-8706445-5302361?v=glance&s=music)
I guess the easier question would be is how deep does one go into the early ska/dub singles Marley put out with Lee Perry, etc...
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Originally posted by kosmo vinyl:
no he's specifically referring to the "soul rebel" album, i was just wondering if there any good same period comps or to just get "soul rebel" instead
edit should be "Soul Rebels" sorry for the typos...
The second one I linked to above is the "official" Soul Rebels album.
I don't have that one, but the songs appear on other albums. Like I noted above, it's a good selection.
There are literally thousands of Marley comps out there, as Jamaican copyright enforcement is kind of an oxymoron. The only official comps I know that cover the early stuff are Songs of Freedom and "Essential." Personally, I'd choose the Soul Rebels they're selling on Amazon for the alternative versions it offers.
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Originally posted by kosmo vinyl:
The second one is the most likely...
I was just wondering about
Trenchtown Rock: The Anthology 1969-78 link (http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/detail/-/B000059Z8W/qid=1128622545/sr=2-1/ref=pd_bbs_b_2_1/104-8706445-5302361?v=glance&s=music)
or
Trenchtown Days: The Birth of a Legend (http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/detail/-/B00005NBYY/qid=1128622545/sr=1-1/ref=sr_1_1/104-8706445-5302361?v=glance&s=music)
I guess the easier question would be is how deep does one go into the early ska/dub singles Marley put out with Lee Perry, etc...
Well, its got Simmer Down and Maga Dog, so you've got the ska covered. Its got some soul (I'm Still Waiting) and some roots (Who Feels It Knows It). Don't see much dub, but otherwise, that's a nice looking album.
Edit: I'm referring to the "Birth of A Legend" album.
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Originally posted by kosmo vinyl:
The second one is the most likely...
I was just wondering about
Trenchtown Rock: The Anthology 1969-78 link (http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/detail/-/B000059Z8W/qid=1128622545/sr=2-1/ref=pd_bbs_b_2_1/104-8706445-5302361?v=glance&s=music)
or
Trenchtown Days: The Birth of a Legend (http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/detail/-/B00005NBYY/qid=1128622545/sr=1-1/ref=sr_1_1/104-8706445-5302361?v=glance&s=music)
I guess the easier question would be is how deep does one go into the early ska/dub singles Marley put out with Lee Perry, etc...
you might wanna check out the box set of his work with lee perry. i think it's "marley: the complete upsetters sessions".
of the ones ggw put up, i'd grab the one on the 2nd link.
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The Birth of Legend comp covers the period between 63 and 66
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Get "Soul Rebel" or "African Herbsman" (same time period; produced by Lee Perry)
Ignore "Birth of a Legend" and those cheap 3CD sets at all costs...
You want the stuff on Trojan; the material kills the stuff he released on Tuff Gong/Island
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Kosmo, it is 'Soul Rebel' that I have. It is one of those 3 cd cheapo deals, but I figure at least getting you some more info might be helpful.
It came with two other cd's: 'Soul Shakedown Party' and 'Natural Mystic'. as I said before, the quality is not great.
Soul Rebel tracklist:
1. Kaya
2. Rainbow Country
3. Put it on
4. Fussin' Fightin'
5. Duppy Conqueror
6. Memphis
7. Small Axe
8. Soul Rebel
9. Try Me
10. Stand Alone
Hope this helps...
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Here's what you want:
Soul Revolutionaries (http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/detail/-/B0009I7O5W/qid=1128654882/sr=8-2/ref=pd_bbs_2/103-2471607-2640662?v=glance&s=music&n=507846); which includes the Soul Rebels album plus two other early albums - "The Best of The Wailers" and "Soul Revolution" plus a disc of the alternate version of the Lee Perry-produced "Soul Revolution"
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To Morrissey, "reggae is vile"
And what Morrissey says is 'the word'
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Weller trumps Morrissey because he's the Modfather and has nicer threads...
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Guess I'd better cancel the order for this one...
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Don't criticize it.
Originally posted by kosmo vinyl:
Guess I'd better cancel the order for this one...
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I like the trojan box sets (which this is one of). They're good deals for the money, although without many extras in the packaging (which means they'll fit on your cd shelf).
This is the one I have (not marley):
Reggae Sisters (http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/detail/-/B00008DCT3/qid=1128685994/sr=2-1/ref=pd_bbs_b_2_1/103-5428517-8723040?v=glance&s=music)
Originally posted by ggwâ?¢:
Here's what you want:
Soul Revolutionaries (http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/detail/-/B0009I7O5W/qid=1128654882/sr=8-2/ref=pd_bbs_2/103-2471607-2640662?v=glance&s=music&n=507846); which includes the Soul Rebels album plus two other early albums - "The Best of The Wailers" and "Soul Revolution" plus a disc of the alternate version of the Lee Perry-produced "Soul Revolution"
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Originally posted by ggwâ?¢:
Here's what you want:
Soul Revolutionaries (http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/detail/-/B0009I7O5W/qid=1128654882/sr=8-2/ref=pd_bbs_2/103-2471607-2640662?v=glance&s=music&n=507846); which includes the Soul Rebels album plus two other early albums - "The Best of The Wailers" and "Soul Revolution" plus a disc of the alternate version of the Lee Perry-produced "Soul Revolution"
Good catch but like some many anthologies it makes for a fustrating decision.
About 3/4 of the tracks on "Soul Revolutionaries" are also on the Trenchtown Rock anthology. The difference being SR includes the Soul Revolution Part II album which is the "dub" version of the record where just the vocals are mute leaving the instrumental tracks. The Trenchtown Rock includes more of the ska tracks like "Concrete Jungle" and "Lively Up Yourself". Neither of course includes the bonus tracks that were added to latest "Soul Rebels" release.
At this point I'm leaning towards the Trenchtown Rock and picking up Soul Revolution Part II some other time. Anyone know if the tracks on Trenchtown comp have been remastered as is the case with Soul Revolutionaries release? And does the remastering really make any difference...
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What Weller says...
6) Bob Marley & The Wailers - Soul Rebels
"There's a certain chemistry Bob Marley had when he worked with Lee Perry. It's got that great raw sound on it, but you can also hear that there was something special going on."
(I'm sure we can all guess what that special substance was)
The rest of the list of CD you gotta get right now...
1) The Zombies - "Odessey & Oracle"
2) Steve Wonder - "Innervisions"
3) Marvin Gaye = "What's Going On"
4) John Coltrane - "A Love Supreme"
5) Alice Coltrane - "Journey in Satchidananda"
7) Sly & The Family Stone - "Fresh"
8) Donny Hathaway - "Live"
9) The Beach Boys - "Friends"
10) Nick Drake - "Five Leaves Left"
11) The Kinks - "The Village Green Preservation Society"
12) Charles Mingus - "Oh Yeah"
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Originally posted by kosmo vinyl:
Weller trumps Morrissey because he's the Modfather and has nicer threads...
Oh yeah!!! Well many moons ago when Morrissey played Merriweather, he sang "That's Entertainment" and introduced it as a song written by Noel Coward!!!!
That trumps anything Weller could ever say or do about the great miserable one!
;)
P.S. Mods were around when Weller was still shitting his nappy!
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morrissey lives in los angeles...
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Originally posted by kosmo vinyl:
morrissey lives in los angeles...
hmmmmmm, good come back!
Weller has a terrible haircut...or is that comment for another thread?
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this is true the haircut he sported in The Style Council was pretty lame...
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I have Songs of Freedom and it's excellent. Particularly the first disc, which is the one that I can't find right now, damnit.
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I was basically brought up listening to Rasta Revolution and African Herbsmen! In a way Jamaican music peaks at those Lee Perry produced sessions, available on Trojan.
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