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=> GENERAL DISCUSSION => Topic started by: ggw on April 28, 2004, 04:41:00 pm
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Yes, even the internet broadcast may be gone in two weeks:
http://www.woxy.com/update.shtml (http://www.woxy.com/update.shtml)
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bummer, Rhett's "free" internet radio will be gone.
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I never listened to that station anyway.
I did try awhile ago, but my work was blocking the station, just as they do KEXP.
Originally posted by Bollocks:
bummer, Rhett's "free" internet radio will be gone.
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Blame it on the fucking RIAA!!! Ultimately, this is their doing.
From WOXY's site:
"Believe it or not, it would cost more to run this Internet radio station (with half the staff) than it ever did to run our terrestrial radio station. The main reason is the costs of music performance royalties and bandwidth for our audio streaming. Unlike traditional AM and FM radio where the cost of operating the transmitter is fixed no matter how many people listen, on the Internet our costs go up for each additional person that tunes in. With our online audience approaching 50,000 unique listeners and growing every month, the already substantial costs continue to rise with no significant revenue stream to pay for them."
Any of you who don't understand what the RIAA has done in it's efforts to supposedly protect the artists needs to understand that stations like WOXY via the internet are sometimes crucial to a band being able to be heard by anyone outside of their local venues. Lord knows, Clear Crap, Infinity and MTV certainly won't be there to give them a helping hand!
Though I did not listen to WOXY, this greatly pains me to see this happen. More and more stations are going off-line because of the RIAA and the monopolies are taking more and more control while only allowing us to hear the crap that they will allow us to hear. No, the artists were not being ripped off via interent radio stations, as the RIAA would have you believe. Instead, they were receiving much needed cheap or free advertising and we, the listeners, were buying their music.
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Isn't it ironic that in order to webcast you have to pay a fee to SoundExchange, the organization setup by the RIAA to collect royalities for the record companies. This is in addition to the fees collected by ASCAP, BMI, etc on behalf of the songwriters.
But in the broadcast world there is no fee collected by Record companies just the songwriter royalities. In fact the record companies are the ones paying to get thier music on the air via promotional consideration.
I'll bet money collected by SoundExchange goes right back into fighting file sharing and the artists see none of it....
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It's unbelievable how small internet radio got screwed. Sure, artists should be compensated, but these stations also promote bands and their CDs and tours, often with handy "buy the record!" links next to the song listing. It's time for the Jenny Toomey March on Washington.
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personally i don't have a problem with paying the songwriters for the use of the song in an internet broadcast via ascap, bmi, etc. it's the fee now being charged on behalf the record company that really knocks a small broadcaster out of the water...
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As a farewell, WOXY is playing the best of 97 A-Z starting today. A soundtrack of their life if you will. It's a shame such a great thing is forced to end.
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Originally posted by red:
As a farewell, WOXY is playing the best of 97 A-Z starting today. A soundtrack of their life if you will. It's a shame such a great thing is forced to end.
I've been enjoying it immensely
12:01 pm A Million Miles Away Plimsouls Everywhere At Once
12:05 pm A Modern Way Of Letting Go Idlewild The Remote Part
12:09 pm A Praise Chorus Jimmy Eat World Jimmy Eat World
12:13 pm A Punchup At A Wedding Radiohead Hail To The Thief
12:18 pm A Question Of Time Depeche Mode Black Celebration
12:22 pm A Shot In The Arm Wilco Summerteeth
12:29 pm A Small Victory Faith No More Angel Dust
12:33 pm A Song For The Lovers Richard Ashcroft Alone With Everybody
12:37 pm A Sort Of Homecoming U2 The Unforgettable Fire
12:44 pm A Sorta Fairytale Tori Amos Scarlet's Walk
12:48 pm DISP:WEEKEND REPORT W/B-2-DA-JAY
12:49 pm A Spy In The House Of Love Db's Like This
12:54 pm A Town Called Malice The Jam The Gift
12:57 pm About A Girl Nirvana Mtv Unplugged In New York
01:00 pm Accident Waiting To Happen Billy Bragg Don't Try This At Home
01:03 pm Accident Waiting To Happen Poster Children New World Record
01:08 pm Accidents Will Happen Elvis Costello Armed Forces
01:13 pm Acquiesce Oasis The Masterplan
01:17 pm Across The Universe Fiona Apple Pleasantville O.s.t.
01:21 pm Across The Universe Rufus Wainwright I Am Sam O.s.t.
01:28 pm Action Fans Help Us! Paris, Texas Action Fans Help Us! Ep
01:31 pm Action Figure Party Action Figure Party Action Figure Party
01:35 pm Adagio For Strings William Orbit Pieces In A Modern Style
01:40 pm Addicts Of Communication Randy The Human Atom Bombs
01:42 pm Afrika Shox Leftfield Rhythm And Stealth
01:45 pm Afro The Jon Spencer Blues Explosion Extra Width
01:51 pm Against The 70's Mike Watt Ballhog Or Tugboat?
01:54 pm Ahead Wire The Ideal Copy
02:00 pm Ainâ??t Goin To Goa A3 Exile On Cold Harbor Lane
02:04 pm Ainâ??t Got Me Paul Westerberg Eventually
02:07 pm Ainâ??t That Enough Teenage Fanclub Songs From Northern Britain
02:11 pm Airport Karate Some Boots
02:16 pm Aisha Death In Vegas Feat Iggy Pop The Contino Sessions
02:21 pm Alan Is A Cowboy Killer McLusky McLusky Do Dallas
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So does anyone have any good recommendations for a WOXY replacement. I will miss its lite indie fare immensley. I guess it was the first place I heard a whole load of bands and songs I now really love.....
Metric and the Tyde are two faves that come to mind.
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Originally posted by mark e smith:
So does anyone have any good recommendations for a WOXY replacement. I will miss its lite indie fare immensley. I guess it was the first place I heard a whole load of bands and songs I now really love.....
Metric and the Tyde are two faves that come to mind.
www.3wk.com (http://www.3wk.com) - may include too much wank for you, as if you could ever get enough of wanking
www.kexp.org (http://www.kexp.org) - not as strictly indie as woxy was
but you knew those two didnt you?
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KEXP seems a natural choice.
Some people have been talking about some indie station on Netscape Radio. I haven't heard it.
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Originally posted by ggwâ?¢:
KEXP seems a natural choice.
Some people have been talking about some indie station on Netscape Radio. I haven't heard it.
just took a look, there seem to be 4 or 5 indie stations on netscape radio
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Netscape radio (www.spinner.com) has:
indie rock
new indie
indie rock mix
indie rock grrls
melancholia (mostly indie folk/pop)
Great, great programming that XM should pay attention to.
Unfortunately unless you're on AOLBroadband you can only listen for a few hours a day.
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you can also try exploring shoutcast.com which is what the iTunes radio feature is actually a front end for. iTunes radio just filters out some of the 6000+ server streams, so there is loads more to checkout at shoutcast.
live365.com has several niche channels as well, but one has to pay four dollars a month to listen without inserted audio ads, etc.
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Originally posted by ggwâ?¢:
Originally posted by red:
As a farewell, WOXY is playing the best of 97 A-Z starting today. A soundtrack of their life if you will. It's a shame such a great thing is forced to end.
I've been enjoying it immensely
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me too... more "radio" should be done this way
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damn, they just played Happy Hour by The Housemartins - just made my week
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"I was happy in the haze of a drunken hour but heaven knows I'm miserable now"
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Bennser, you're an awful tease....I can't get on. I keep getting a message that the server is full. Good for them (bad for me...).
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how could woxy have skipped "here" by pavement? shocking.
bags, have you tried the various feed options? i haven't had a problem using real audio.
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Originally posted by Venerable Bede:
how could woxy have skipped "here" by pavement? shocking.
bags, have you tried the various feed options? i haven't had a problem using real audio.
I was using Real Audio, but I got connected through Netscape Radio -- the new incarnation of Spinner, which has the same stations (including WOXY and KCRW), but lost a lot of the best features of the Spinner player (e.g. limitless personal presets and the ability to see what's playing on another station by simply hovering your cursor over the other station -- that was an *awesome* feature).
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Originally posted by mark e smith:
So does anyone have any good recommendations for a WOXY replacement. I will miss its lite indie fare immensley. I guess it was the first place I heard a whole load of bands and songs I now really love.....
Metric and the Tyde are two faves that come to mind.
You might check out www.wnku.org (http://www.wnku.org) It's from Northern Kentucky University, not bad but it's an NPR station so it's not music all the time.
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I'm biased because me best mate DJs Thursday morning from 6-9 ("The Continental Breakfast of Rock"), but WVKR from Vassar is really pretty good.
listen right meow (http://www.wvkr.org/listen.html)
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I'm biased 'cuz I dj'd on WVKR for 3.5 years. Ah, the old days. I hear the studio's just amazing now. I was Sunday 7 - 9 pm in my prime. I can't believe you can stream it. What a dream that would have been; could have made my mates at other schools listen in.
The two to three hour shows will vary greatly based on the dj. Used to be until about 6:00 p.m. it was classical, jazz, folk, etc.
Originally posted by walkie hearts you all:
I'm biased because me best mate DJs Thursday morning from 6-9 ("The Continental Breakfast of Rock"), but WVKR from Vassar is really pretty good.
listen right meow (http://www.wvkr.org/listen.html)
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All is not lost?? (http://www.wcpo.com/news/2004/local/05/12/97x.html)
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Apparently that link is: The page you requested cannot be found.
Originally posted by ggwâ?¢:
All is not lost?? (http://www.wcpo.com/news/2004/local/05/12/97x.html)
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It worked for me 20 minutes ago, but yep, it has gone now. Ahh, there is always hope.
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That article had more than a few inaccuracies in it, which is why I'm guessing it was taken down.
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I'm listening to the WOXY stream from the ITUNES right now. They just played sheena is a punk rocker and now theyre playing ....I'm pretty sure it's Cake..itunes doesn't show current track info.
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now theres a song I haven't heard in ages ... Carter USM - Sheriff Fatman
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Now Playing (http://www.woxy.com/nowplay.php)
Originally posted by chaz:
I'm listening to the WOXY stream from the ITUNES right now. They just played sheena is a punk rocker and now theyre playing ....I'm pretty sure it's Cake..itunes doesn't show current track info.
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shoutcast is carrying a 128kbps woxy feed... see woxy or shoutcast
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i just cant wait for them to play "tubthumping" man oh man!
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For those keeping track of all the songs played, here's the playlist through 5/12 (http://www.altmusictv.com/97A-X.htm).
WOXY's web guy will also post a complete list in the coming days, but this is a good start.
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There has been a mass migration to KEXP this morning. A lot of WOXY listeners are pledging contributions to them and they're giving us shout-outs on the air.
Originally posted by ggwâ?¢:
KEXP seems a natural choice.
Some people have been talking about some indie station on Netscape Radio. I haven't heard it.