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Title: Camper Van Beethoven
Post by: jadetree on January 22, 2003, 05:03:00 pm: For those going to the show on Saturday, I just read some of the message boards and it looks like they are playing 3 hours and over 40 songs from all of their albums. Should be good.
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Post by: ggw on January 22, 2003, 05:05:00 pm: I bet Phish plays at least that long on Sunday.
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Post by: Henry Dark on January 22, 2003, 05:17:00 pm: I bet the Raiders win on Sunday.
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Post by: Relaxer on January 22, 2003, 05:38:00 pm: No way Hank, it's the Bucs all the way.
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Post by: vansmack on January 22, 2003, 05:40:00 pm: Man U just took a 3-1 lead over Blackburn and heading to Cardiff.
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Post by: jadetree on January 22, 2003, 05:42:00 pm: Speaking of concerts in Florida, Coldplay kicked off their US tour last night in Florida -- from coldplay.com --ORLANDO GIG LAST NIGHTThe tour kicked off in Orlando last night and reports coming in say that it was amazing. The Hard Rock venue was sold out. According to their website a review of the gig and photos will follow.
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Post by: ggw on January 22, 2003, 05:44:00 pm: <BLOCKQUOTE>quote:<HR>Originally posted by jadetree: ....reports coming in say that it was amazing......<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>Amazing, huh???Anyone seen Kurosawa lately???
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Post by: Guiny on January 22, 2003, 07:09:00 pm: Coldplay and amazing in the same paragraph.......go figure.
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Post by: kurosawa-b/w on January 22, 2003, 11:29:00 pm: <BLOCKQUOTE>quote:<HR>Originally posted by ggw: Amazing, huh???Anyone seen Kurosawa lately???<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>*yawns* That joke/criticism/put-down is getting old.
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Post by: tenpercenter on January 24, 2003, 12:02:00 pm: what kind of crowd do you guys think camper van will draw tommorow?
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Post by: Guiny on January 24, 2003, 12:17:00 pm: Probably people, cows and a few rabbits.
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Post by: ggw on January 24, 2003, 12:22:00 pm: <BLOCKQUOTE>quote:<HR>Originally posted by tenpercenter: what kind of crowd do you guys think camper van will draw tommorow?<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>White?
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Post by: Tom Cashel on January 25, 2003, 12:29:00 pm: I think the show will likely draw a wide range of individuals, including but not limited to caucasians, African Americans, good guys, collies, skinheads, bad guys, Stalinites, Johnsonites, lottery winners, ZZ Top fans, Scotsmen, Germans, Terra Novans, restless folk, members of the Symbionese Liberation Front (SLF), the JAMS, Illuminati malcontents, Malukinati illcontents, Pink Floyd, Robert Plant, Mao sympathizers, sweethearts, Reaganomicists, matchstick men, surprise truckers, riverboat gamblers, police, the people in Russia, folderollers, shilly-shalliers, diviners of water, peaceniks, the bellicose, Greeks, Mick Fleetwood, Club Med Gold Club members, the Tooth Fairy, and of course, me.
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Post by: markie on January 25, 2003, 12:35:00 pm: I think it will attract people with a scant disregard for modern day music.
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Post by: Tom Cashel on January 25, 2003, 12:49:00 pm: Since scant means "a small amount," I agree with you.
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Post by: markie on January 25, 2003, 02:02:00 pm: <BLOCKQUOTE>quote:<HR>Originally posted by Tom Cashel: Since scant means "a small amount," I agree with you.<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>scant Â Â (Â PÂ )Â Â Pronunciation KeyÂ Â (sknt) adj. scantÂ·er, scantÂ·est 1. Barely sufficient: paid scant attention to the lecture. 2. Falling short of a specific measure: a scant cup of sugar. 3. Inadequately supplied; short: We were scant of breath after the lengthy climb. tr.v. scantÂ·ed, scantÂ·ing, scants 1. To give an inadequate portion or allowance to: had to scant the older children in order to nourish the newborn. 2. To limit, as in amount or share; stint: Our leisure time is scanted by this demanding job. 3. To deal with or treat inadequately or neglectfully; slight
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Post by: Tom Cashel on January 25, 2003, 02:19:00 pm: Bravo! You can cut and paste.But "scant disregard" is a double negative, thereby indicating a "inadequately supplied lack of regard" for modern day music.Instead of saying "not a lot of disregard," you could just say, "a moderate regard."Which is what modern day music deserves.
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Post by: markie on January 25, 2003, 03:46:00 pm: OOO I did it againdisÂ·reÂ·gard Â Â (Â PÂ )Â Â Pronunciation KeyÂ Â (dsr-gÃ¤rd) tr.v. disÂ·reÂ·gardÂ·ed, disÂ·reÂ·gardÂ·ing, disÂ·reÂ·gards 1. To pay no attention or heed to; ignore. 2. To treat without proper respect or attentiveness.n. Lack of thoughtful attention or due regard. so someone who goes to CamperVB has a barely sufficient lack of respect for modern day music.I guess I should have said, scant regard for modern day music combined with a predeliction for being a pedant.thanks though.
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Post by: Tom Cashel on January 25, 2003, 04:30:00 pm: How about fuck you? Izzat pedantic enough for you, dickbreath? (http://www.930.com/ubb/smile.gif)
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Post by: Tom Cashel on January 25, 2003, 04:35:00 pm: Quoting the dictionary and he calls me a pedant. That's pretty funny.Anyway, Camper will rock. Hooray!
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Post by: markie on January 25, 2003, 04:36:00 pm: <BLOCKQUOTE>quote:<HR>Originally posted by Tom Cashel: How about fuck you? Izzat pedantic enough for you, dickbreath? (http://www.930.com/ubb/smile.gif)<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>Oh no not name calling on the board. How uncouth.
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Post by: markie on January 25, 2003, 04:41:00 pm: <BLOCKQUOTE>quote:<HR>Originally posted by Tom Cashel: i am a pedant. Camper-I would rather suck cock<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>Well you did correct me. That makes you the pedant. I hope you enjoy Camp-er
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Post by: slappy on January 25, 2003, 05:02:00 pm: i only come here to get info on bands. why don't some of the lame regulars just leave it alone if they don't like a band? i don't give a shit if you don't like a certain band. the smarmy remarks just make you look like an idiot with no life.i'll enjoy camper van. you have fun cut and pasting the dictionary at a bay city rollers forum.
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Post by: markie on January 25, 2003, 05:13:00 pm: <BLOCKQUOTE>quote:<HR>Originally posted by slappy: i'll enjoy camper van because of my limp wrist<HR></BLOCKQUOTE> (http://www.heresyhouse.com/catalog-hh/ts03_design_sm.jpg)
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Post by: jadetree on January 25, 2003, 05:13:00 pm: I am a regular who is going to the Camper Van Beethoven show.If there wasnt anybody posting the way that makes you upset there would not be very much traffic on the board and you would not find very much info about the bands you like.
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Post by: markie on January 25, 2003, 05:44:00 pm: <BLOCKQUOTE>quote:<HR>Originally posted by jadetree: I am a regular fool who is going to the Camper Van Beethoven show.<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>Hey Jadetree I emailed you! Are you ignoring me?
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Post by: jadetree on January 25, 2003, 06:00:00 pm: <BLOCKQUOTE>quote:<HR>Originally posted by markie: Hey Jadetree I emailed you! Are you ignoring me?<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>i dont think my email is working right now, all kinds of problems on the internet today due to a sql worm, I sent you an email with a different address to use[This message has been edited by jadetree (edited 01-25-2003).]
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Post by: markie on January 25, 2003, 06:11:00 pm: <BLOCKQUOTE>quote:<HR>Originally posted by jadetree: due to a small worm..... ]<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>Alright, I emailed your other address.
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Post by: jadetree on January 26, 2003, 02:09:00 am: Wow, disappointment, CVB did nothing for me tonight, left in the middle of the second set, they did not give me any sense that they wanted to be playing their music, all my favorites sounded half hearted.
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Post by: markie on January 26, 2003, 02:51:00 pm: might of known you would have ended up feeling depressed. You always just bring everyone down all the time dont you Neil? (http://www.michael.phatcatz.net/awtv/Comedy/SoundVision/neil.jpg)
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Post by: tenpercenter on January 26, 2003, 02:52:00 pm: i'll admit, some if my favorites sounded a bit half hearted in the first set, but i thought cvb totally redeemed themselves in the second set. i felt that they had a lot more energy and the set flowed a lot better. plus, they played a lot more off of telephone free landslide in the second set. my only complaint was the guy next to me singing all the words before the band did, but there are annoying people like that at every show.
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Post by: jadetree on January 26, 2003, 03:04:00 pm: <BLOCKQUOTE>quote:<HR>Originally posted by markie: might of known you would have ended up feeling depressed. You always just bring everyone down all the time dont you Neil? <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>fucker
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Post by: markie on January 26, 2003, 03:29:00 pm: <BLOCKQUOTE>quote:<HR>Originally posted by jadetree: hey guys you are really bringing me down with all of this<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>shut up Neil! <A HREF="http://www.strangecult.com/mrt/t_vs_y1s2.html" TARGET=_blank>http://www.strangecult.com/mrt/t_vs_y1s2.html[/url]
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Post by: jadetree on January 26, 2003, 03:36:00 pm: <BLOCKQUOTE>quote:<HR>Originally posted by markie: shut up Neil! <A HREF="http://www.strangecult.com/mrt/t_vs_y1s2.html" TARGET=_blank>http://www.strangecult.com/mrt/t_vs_y1s2.html[/url] <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>check your email
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Post by: kurosawa-b/w on January 26, 2003, 06:43:00 pm: Yeah, I wasn't into it at all. I left after the first set. Not my crowd, not my sound. Quite frankly, I was bored. I knew I should have gone to see Antibalas.
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Post by: J'Mal on January 26, 2003, 07:58:00 pm: <BLOCKQUOTE>quote:<HR>Originally posted by jadetree: Wow, disappointment, CVB did nothing for me tonight, left in the middle of the second set, they did not give me any sense that they wanted to be playing their music, all my favorites sounded half hearted.<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>Did we go to the same show?Camper was amazing! It's early, but it'll be hard to knock off last night's performance as best of 2003. They performed virtually their entire catalog with great energy and skill. tight. inspired. The positive vibes coming from the stage were unreal. The only downer was the noise interlude in "tusk" at the end of the first set was a bit long. I had to leave after 3 hours so I'd also say it's a bummer if they didn't get around to Borderline and Never Go Back, but border ska, good guys and bad guys, sad lover's waltz, skinheads, opi rides again, and virtually all of Beloved Revolutionary Sweetheart were well worth triple the price of admission.
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Post by: Sir HC on January 27, 2003, 11:07:00 am: I agree with J'Mal. I loved the show, I love the band, and I thought they were quite on. They played everything I wanted to hear (one friend wanted Interstellar overdrive but c'est la vie). Glad they allowed taping, and the concert was recorded by DCN so it will be out there for those who couldn't go.Oh, and the two guys in back were from Cracker (I recognized the accordian).
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Post by: Charlie Nakatestes, Japanese Golfer on January 27, 2003, 11:57:00 am: From the PostCamper Van Beethoven Ironic rock and the digital age don't make for fast friends. Camper Van Beethoven's Saturday show at the 9:30 club fell victim to the non-relationship.A reformed Camper, an outfit that first popped up in Santa Cruz, Calif., in 1983 and broke up seven years later, is now touring in support of both a box-set retrospective and a self-consciously quirky remake of Fleetwood Mac's "Tusk" -- not just the song, the entire album. That sort of patent absurdity was, from the start, a part of the band's manifesto: Camper was perhaps the only act of its generation that had a violinist and covered the same turf as the Southern California punks.Singer and frontman David Lowery, whom longtime fans remember as quite a between-songs banterer back in the day, let the laptop computer that sat on a desk beside him onstage do most of the talking on this night -- "Regime change in Washington!" the digital voice kept repeating. Lowery likewise traded e-mails across the stage with violinist Jonathan Segel, also equipped with a laptop, during song breaks. (Lead guitarist Greg Lisher offered a possible motive for his mates' sullenness, explaining that the band had been "Maced" by fans a night earlier in Philadelphia.)On a more positive note, Camper generously gave the old guard all the material it came for over the two-set, three-hour show. When rendering "Take the Skinheads Bowling," a college-rock power-pop fave from 1986, he delivered the line that served as a template for songs of the next generation of slacker rock bands, such as Pavement: "I had a dream / It was about nothing." Other highlights included "The Day That Lassie Went to the Moon" and "The Ambiguity Song," which despite the title remains almost pop enough for Tom Petty. But the show hit a brick wall when Lowery announced he wanted to do "Devil Song," a tune he said the band hadn't performed in 14 years. But first he needed to look up the lyrics on the Internet. Some members of the crowd began heading for the exits during the computer interlude, and all momentum was lost. Worst of all, "Devil Song" wasn't worth the wait.
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Post by: J'Mal on January 27, 2003, 12:28:00 pm: The Post guy is an idiot. Did he really think Lowery was surfing the internet during the show, or that they were emailing each other? It sounded to me like they were joking about it, part of the night's running joke theme about technology in general (the computer voice, and the interesting use of the beeping from the new camper album to "connect" various songs). BUt yeah, Devil song wasn't a highlight of the show. Yeah, Frank Funaro and Kenny Margolis were from Cracker, but they've all played together. The Apothecary tour with both bands playing each other's songs also had the same energy as Saturday's CVB show, which was better than the subsequent dud Cracker album/tour (dud cracker is still damn good).
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Post by: Sir HC on January 27, 2003, 01:41:00 pm: They were actually connected. Know that for fact, and they were trading emails across stage. I don't think that the delay ruined the show, just made it so that you didn't get 1/2 a song and some f**k up.The macing was real too. David walked into a cloud of mace when he went on stage, got in his hair and when they played sweated into his eyes. Bad scene.I have to say that it was a pretty well behaved audience, unlike some of the Cracker shows where idiots would talk through the whole set.
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Post by: Henry Dark on January 27, 2003, 01:51:00 pm: Or crack you over the head with their beer bottle. <BLOCKQUOTE>quote:<HR>Originally posted by Sir HC: I have to say that it was a pretty well behaved audience, unlike some of the Cracker shows where idiots would talk through the whole set.<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>
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Post by: fairfaxfinn on January 27, 2003, 02:52:00 pm: My experience at Cracker shows in DC is that there is always a jerk or two in attendance; Saturday was no exception. Fortunately there were no major incidents (a la Philadelphia). At Cracker shows the hecklers are always "requesting" Camper songs; I found it amusing that they were now requesting Cracker songs at the Camper show. Whatever.Having said that, I loved the show. The highlight for me was "The Day That Lassie Went to the Moon" ... transitioning into "Club Med Sucks." I also enjoyed "Waka", "Good Guys & Bad Guys", and "When I Win the Lottery." And of course the cover songs, "Wasted" and "Pictures of Matchstick Men" (I wonder if Cracker/Camper will cover another Status Quo song, "In the Army Now").As for playing the "Devil Song" (and, for that matter, the new Cracker song, "Duty Free"), I thought they were fairly timely choices. Perhaps not musically so, but with lyrics like, "Hey, wanna start a war / I'm tired of this old one," they seemed rather appropriate.
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Post by: J'Mal on January 27, 2003, 03:08:00 pm: Lowery also changed "known communist" to "known islamist" in Lottery... damn that song sounds good in concert. I'd say 80% of the concert was out of this world extraordinary, the rest OK, and the tusk interval, well...
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Post by: jadetree on January 27, 2003, 03:29:00 pm: <BLOCKQUOTE>quote:<HR>Originally posted by fairfaxfinn: My experience at Cracker shows in DC is that there is always a jerk or two in attendance; Saturday was no exception. Fortunately there were no major incidents (a la Philadelphia). At Cracker shows the hecklers are always "requesting" Camper songs; I found it amusing that they were now requesting Cracker songs at the Camper show. Whatever.Having said that, I loved the show. The highlight for me was "The Day That Lassie Went to the Moon" ... transitioning into "Club Med Sucks." I also enjoyed "Waka", "Good Guys & Bad Guys", and "When I Win the Lottery." And of course the cover songs, "Wasted" and "Pictures of Matchstick Men" (I wonder if Cracker/Camper will cover another Status Quo song, "In the Army Now").As for playing the "Devil Song" (and, for that matter, the new Cracker song, "Duty Free"), I thought they were fairly timely choices. Perhaps not musically so, but with lyrics like, "Hey, wanna start a war / I'm tired of this old one," they seemed rather appropriate.<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>I would say that of the whole show (well the part I stayed for anyway) "Good Guys & Bad Guys", "Joe Stalinâ??s Cadillac" and "When I Win the Lottery" were the most enjoyable for me. The performance of my two favorite songs "Pictures Of Matchstick Men" and "All Her Favorite Fruit" probably ruined the show for me.
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Post by: Sir HC on January 27, 2003, 03:38:00 pm: <BLOCKQUOTE>quote:<HR>Originally posted by jadetree: I would say that of the whole show (well the part I stayed for anyway) "Good Guys & Bad Guys", "Joe Stalinâ??s Cadillac" and "When I Win the Lottery" were the most enjoyable for me. The performance of my two favorite songs "Pictures Of Matchstick Men" and "All Her Favorite Fruit" probably ruined the show for me.<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>Why did they ruin it for you, I love "All her favorite Fruit" and thought they did it justice. So anyone get a tape of it or remember the Clash cover (I thought it was white riot but forget now...)?
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Post by: J'Mal on January 27, 2003, 03:40:00 pm: yeah they did white rioti, too thought fruit (and matchstick) were excellent.
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Post by: jadetree on January 27, 2003, 03:41:00 pm: <BLOCKQUOTE>quote:<HR>Originally posted by Sir HC: Why did they ruin it for you, I love "All her favorite Fruit" and thought they did it justice. So anyone get a tape of it or remember the Clash cover (I thought it was white riot but forget now...)?<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>It was White Riot, Cracker covered it on a Clash tribute album, I guess I just did not think it was what I expected. Maybe the problem is that I prefer All Her Favorite Fruit from the greatest hits played faster over the key lime version, I prefer more of the full orchestra sound at the beginning and that was lost at the live show. I also thought that the vocals were especially quiet during the first set.
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