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=> GENERAL DISCUSSION => Topic started by: stokes787 on October 09, 2005, 02:10:00 am
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Tell me why ladies and gentlemen, when i caught a drumstick from falloutboy the other night at the fusion tour, the bouncer made me "give it back"? After him threatening to "kick my ass" and "throw me out", needless to say i gave it back, but really, what the hell? 9:30 club, your tight and all, but what is the matter with your bouncers? Similar stories? share em...
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i have never heard anything like that. thatz really wierd. that really sucks too.i would've just ran away from the guy
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there was this one time at band camp...
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Originally posted by stoker:
Similar stories? share em...
after the Hot Hot Heat show in March we asked one of the roadies if he could throw us a drumstick when he was packing up. He yelled at us and was like "no, no, no, these are the band's property." Then the bassist walked out and yelled at him and gave us stuff. Karma.
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Originally posted by stoker:
Tell me why ladies and gentlemen, when i caught a drumstick from falloutboy the other night at the fusion tour, the bouncer made me "give it back"? After him threatening to "kick my ass" and "throw me out", needless to say i gave it back, but really, what the hell? 9:30 club, your tight and all, but what is the matter with your bouncers? Similar stories? share em...
i was in the barricade at the end of the show, and don't remember any specific event matching this description, but maybe i just didn't see it. when sticks/setlists/towels/etc are thrown into the crowd, people often fight over them. when that happens, the staph at the front of the stage often step in and take whatever it is that people are fighting over. threatening to kick your ass is inappropriate, however, and i will look into the situation.
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Originally posted by Graace:
after the Hot Hot Heat show in March we asked one of the roadies if he could throw us a drumstick when he was packing up. He yelled at us and was like "no, no, no, these are the band's property." Then the bassist walked out and yelled at him and gave us stuff. Karma.
that is not how karma works.
the staph at the club is not allowed to take anything from the stage. if the band or their crew want to give something out, they can. if they tell us it's ok, we can. otherwise, it stays where it is.
tangent: i think a lot of people's concept of being "yelled at" is a lot different than mine.
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yeah i'm thinking something is missing from the FOB drumstick story...
there was already a discussion over the passing out of setlists here and frankly I don't understand how people can get so uppidity and indigent over someone doing his job. it's the stage crews job to clear the stage not take requestes to pass out setlists, drumsticks, in part because it isn't thier property. the drumsticks in particular may be custom made, etc. if the band or it's techs want to do thats fine...
honestly, the bassplayer for HHH sounds like a right prick...
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Of course people are yelling at the end of the night. Imagine several hours of loud music, you just yell because that is the right volume. :)
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I completely understand about the 9:30 staff being unable to pass stuff out unless given permission. This guy didn't work for 9:30, he was one of HHH's guys. If he had just said "sorry, no can do" things would have been perfectly chill. The fact that he was a total dick about it, and took the time to bitch about it to us was what made it suck. I would have understood if he was trying to get out of there quickly and just blew us off. Instead he stopped what he was doing and bitched to us. Whatever.
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Why do some bands do really stupid shit like throwing things into the crowd? Makes the already impossible task of keeping excited, giddy teenagers under control even more difficult.
Besides, you could put someone's eye out throwing a drumstick into the crowd!!!
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Ninja throwing stars embossed with the band's logo? Great tchotchkies. Fans love 'em.
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Originally posted by Roadbike Mankie:
Besides, you could put someone's eye out throwing a drumstick into the crowd!!!
Old man. ;)
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i like drumsticks, because they have that yummy chocolate chunk at the bottom of the cone.
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actually what happend was you in fact were fighting for it and shoving the people around you ( including young girls )to get the stick . the patron in front of you was the person who actually caught it and after it was taken from you it was given to him, because he wasnt fighting with the people around him to get it but did infact land his hands on it first.You were told that next time dont start fights in the club for things that you didnt catch , however i can assure you , no one threaten to "kick your ass"those are words that havent been uttered from my mouth in the 6 years i have been working there.Im sorry that your upset but we have to take everyones safty in to consideration, and cannot allow that kind of behavior to go rewarded. good luck next time catcing something though and hopefully you will have learned that fighting the people around you wont get you what you want....if anyone threatens to " kick you ass" again...point them out to me and ill be happy to make sure that doesnt happen, and that the person is delt with acordingly...
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VMS,
If that is the case, one time many years ago, I went to a Tonic concert at the 930 (okay, I expect ridicule for seeing Tonic - but if you could only see the way I loved them, maybe you'd understand) but anyway - after the last song they threw out the drumsticks and one smacked me square in the forehead. Being dazed I looked up at the balcony thinking someone threw a beer bottle at me. Then I saw two people scrambling on the floor in front of me, trying to get the stick that had just bounced off of my head. Do you think you can help me get that one back? I used to have the welt to prove it :D
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Originally posted by Groundkeeper's Willy:
VMS,
If that is the case, one time many years ago, I went to a Tonic concert at the 930 (okay, I expect ridicule for seeing Tonic - but if you could only see the way I loved them, maybe you'd understand) but anyway - after the last song they threw out the drumsticks and one smacked me square in the forehead. Being dazed I looked up at the balcony thinking someone threw a beer bottle at me. Then I saw two people scrambling on the floor in front of me, trying to get the stick that had just bounced off of my head. Do you think you can help me get that one back? I used to have the welt to prove it :D
It is under my pillow, you are NEVER getting it back.
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Originally posted by VIOLENTMOODSWINGS:
actually what happend was you in fact were fighting for it and shoving the people around you ( including young girls )to get the stick . the patron in front of you was the person who actually caught it and after it was taken from you it was given to him, because he wasnt fighting with the people around him to get it but did infact land his hands on it first.You were told that next time dont start fights in the club for things that you didnt catch , however i can assure you , no one threaten to "kick your ass"those are words that havent been uttered from my mouth in the 6 years i have been working there.Im sorry that your upset but we have to take everyones safty in to consideration, and cannot allow that kind of behavior to go rewarded. good luck next time catcing something though and hopefully you will have learned that fighting the people around you wont get you what you want....if anyone threatens to " kick you ass" again...point them out to me and ill be happy to make sure that doesnt happen, and that the person is delt with acordingly...
My point exaclty...no throwing shit to the kids, they only fight over it and it ends up in tears when little johnny doesn't get his own way, then tries to blame someone else......my 2 1/2 year old is just the same!
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well the bouncer could get charged with assault if he did anything, i would think. this is especially easy consdiering you are at the show with your friends [witnesses] but, like i know when it comes to court and judges, its a load of crap it comes down to what that prick on the bench thinks. and it not always just or fair and nobody gives a shit. do courts tend to stand up for the bouncer/security/club or the complainant/victim? i would guess courts are biased against the concertgoer b/c u r seen as a long-haired hippy punk out to cause trouble and get drunk and high meanwhile the bouncer is like a cop in their eyes and on the job with a set of standards that is being applied. anyone know? woul the cops need to make an arrest? would they take the complaint or say there isnt enuf evidence or some shit like that? but hey if the bouncer injures u can sue the shit out of the club maybe that'll make the club/bouncer think twice next time.
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In light of VMS's explanation of events, I'd really like to hear stoker weigh back in. I doubt he expected the offending bouncer to read this and post. Stoker!! Paging Mr. Stoker!!!
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Originally posted by walkonby:
i like drumsticks, because they have that yummy chocolate chunk at the bottom of the cone.
lol u rock wob
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Originally posted by muschi:
well the bouncer could get charged with assault if he did anything, i would think. this is especially easy consdiering you are at the show with your friends [witnesses] but, like i know when it comes to court and judges, its a load of crap it comes down to what that prick on the bench thinks. and it not always just or fair and nobody gives a shit. do courts tend to stand up for the bouncer/security/club or the complainant/victim? i would guess courts are biased against the concertgoer b/c u r seen as a long-haired hippy punk out to cause trouble and get drunk and high meanwhile the bouncer is like a cop in their eyes and on the job with a set of standards that is being applied. anyone know? woul the cops need to make an arrest? would they take the complaint or say there isnt enuf evidence or some shit like that? but hey if the bouncer injures u can sue the shit out of the club maybe that'll make the club/bouncer think twice next time.
Why not sue the drummer for starting an affray...or if the drumstick hits you have the twat arrested for assault!
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Not that this has any bearing on this thread, but we don't employ "bouncers" at the club. Bouncers are people who's job it is to throw people out of clubs when they get out of control. Our doorstaff does everything from taking tickets, checking ID's, controling access to certain areas, maintaining general security, handling medical needs... the list goes on. Ejecting unruly patrons is only a small part of their job and the label bouncer doesn't fit at all.
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Originally posted by Groundkeeper's Willy:
(okay, I expect ridicule for seeing Tonic - but if you could only see the way I loved them, maybe you'd understand)
hah!
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Originally posted by Shadrach:
Our doorstaff does everything from taking tickets, checking ID's, controling access to certain areas, maintaining general security, handling medical needs...
..walking around the club looking cute and cool. ;)
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Originally posted by Roadbike Mankie:
Originally posted by munchy:
but hey if the bouncer injures u can sue the shit out of the club maybe that'll make the club/bouncer think twice next time.
Why not sue the drummer for starting an affray...or if the drumstick hits you have the twat arrested for assault! [/b]
i know some ppl go apeshit about any mention of sueing in any case bc of the frequent and frivolous lawsuits out there but that does not mean that others are not legitimate. often it is the only effective recourse to to remedy a wrong and prevent the injustice in the future. i especially dont think it is frivolous in the case of being intentionally assaulted by a bouncer* or a club that does not provide strong enuf sanctions or other mechanisms to ensure that this does not occur or screen out former WWFer's tho that would be interesting. *[or whatever you'd like to call the bulky people in similar clothing standing close proximity to the stage]. nor do i mean that all bouncers are like that, in fact i hav no clue, but my point is IF one did.
ps. however, i sometimes wonder if the thrown drumstick is going to go straight into someones eye! i often see drummers toss it so it does not spin vertically, minimizing the spear potentional.
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i really have a knack for killing a thread.
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You know that in my time at the club I haven't really seen any person ejected from the club bounce. I mean to clarify are we talking superball type of bouncing, hey I'm a teenybopper I wanna see the stage bouncing, ping-pong ball bouncing or do the staphers bounce when they eject people? Ok that last one just created mages in my head that are hysterical. Yes, thatguy bouncing up and down like a kangaroo while ejecting someone. Come now we all would find that entertaining now wouldn't we?
And drumsticks are the best! I agree with the chocolate at the bottom of the cone. Hmmmmmm delicious!
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i was looking for pict of drumstick in an eye... <img src="http://porktornado.diaryland.com/images/creedcowboy2.jpg" alt=" - " />... but lookee what i found <img src="http://porktornado.diaryland.com/images/orleans1.jpg" alt=" - " /> hilarious site worst album covers ever (http://porktornado.diaryland.com/albumcover.html), positively hilarious, put your coffee down before u spit it out laffing
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Holy crap, whoever thought that Orleans cover was a good idea! Although, maybe that's the last time, before now, that the bearded look was in... So what band should next attempt the shirtless cover art?
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Originally posted by Bags:
Holy crap, whoever thought that Orleans cover was a good idea! Although, maybe that's the last time, before now, that the bearded look was in... So what band should next attempt the shirtless cover art?
Pussycat dolls
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Originally posted by stoker:
Tell me why ladies and gentlemen, when i caught a drumstick from falloutboy the other night at the fusion tour, the bouncer made me "give it back"? After him threatening to "kick my ass" and "throw me out", needless to say i gave it back, but really, what the hell? 9:30 club, your tight and all, but what is the matter with your bouncers? Similar stories? share em...
tell me what the hell were you doing at a fallout boy show to begin with