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=> GENERAL DISCUSSION => Topic started by: Vas Deferens on May 09, 2007, 11:46:00 am
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The new LCD Soundsystem. I can only stand one track, "Someone Great".
What's yours?
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Arcade Fire - Neon Bible.
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Second. I don't get the fuss.
Originally posted by K8teebug:
Arcade Fire - Neon Bible.
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The Shins -- Wincing...
Voxtrot - Voxtrot
Bloc Party - A Weekend in the City
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Originally posted by ggwâ?¢:
The Shins -- Wincing...
Voxtrot - Voxtrot
Bloc Party - A Weekend in the City
I second the Voxtrot and Bloc Party.
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Third.
It's nowhere near as good as Funeral.
Originally posted by nkotb:
Second. I don't get the fuss.
Originally posted by K8teebug:
Arcade Fire - Neon Bible.
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!!! - Myth Takes
I thought Neon Bible was better than funeral.
I'll second the shins and block party though. I like Sound Of Silver alright but the critics have been over-hyping the hell out of it.
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I prefer Neon Bible as well.
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Fountains of Wayne - Traffic and Weather
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I was a little disappointed with Bill Callahan's Woke on a Whaleheart.
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Bloc Party - A Weekend In the City
If it wasn't so underwhelming, I might have considered getting tickets to their show at DAR, but this coupled with their history of underwhelming live shows, it's just not worth it to me.
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Agreed on Bloc Party and Arcade Fire. I can't get into them at all.
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ya'll are crazy about Arcade Fire, what a great album ... the Bloc Party disc is crap
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Wilco's Sky Blue Sky-though not actually released yet, it was leaked weeks ago. Uncle Tupelo fans take note-Son Volt's new one seems to be a more interesting disc overall. Farrar's experimenting with a fuller sound and most of the time it works.
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Not that I was expecting greatness...the Weirdness by the Stooges
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I disagree completely.
Originally posted by HBAG:
Wilco's Sky Blue Sky-though not actually released yet, it was leaked weeks ago. Uncle Tupelo fans take note-Son Volt's new one seems to be a more interesting disc overall. Farrar's experimenting with a fuller sound and most of the time it works.
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At first blush the new Bloc Party didn't grab me, but it has gotten better with every listen to the point I think it's brillant.
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i'm disappointed in Radiohead's new album
oh yeah, they didnt put one out!!! they only put albums out on leap years now!
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Originally posted by Brandon Brendall, the thief:
Bloc Party - A Weekend In the City
If it wasn't so underwhelming, I might have considered getting tickets to their show at DAR, but this coupled with their history of underwhelming live shows, it's just not worth it to me.
Just curious, how many underwhelming live Bloc Party shows have you personally been to?
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Originally posted by bnyced0:
At first blush the new Bloc Party didn't grab me, but it has gotten better with every listen to the point I think it's brillant.
i really think brilliant is going a bit far!
fun, exciting, energetic, infectous...maybe, but brilliant seems like it would imply some sort of originality and innovative---ness.
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I hate Guns and Roses Chinese democracy...no, wait...
I think that this album will be released when we can actually see democracy in China...
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charlie, explain your views on wilco/son volt, please
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I like the sparer, more organic 70s-ish vibe of Sky Blue Sky. Although there were a couple of decent songs on the new Son Volt, none approached anything on Trace, or for that matter, Okemah. I don't think experimentation is a good thing, when it comes to country music. Horns may have worked for Johnny Cash, but I don't think it works for Jay Farrar. He just repeats that one damn obvious horn line over and over in that one song, and they don't seem to add anything to the song, other than for people to go, "Wow look at Jay, experimenting with the horns."
I do prefer Okemah to Ghost, if that's any consolation.
Originally posted by HBAG:
charlie, explain your views on wilco/son volt, please
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Clap Your Hands Say Yeah - Some Loud Thunder
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Modest Mouse: eh, so far; still haven't listened again though.
I recently picked up Muse (Target had it for 7.99) based upon so much praise on this board. Not pleased.
James Murphy had a lot to prove with his second LCD. It's better than it needed to be.
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Couldn't get into Okemah and loved Ghost. I do agree that Trace was best by far but I think there are some hints of that sound on the new one-methamphetamine, for example. Also agree about the horn part-not the most complex riffs but at least it's something new and different. By the way, never really thought of this sound as "country" though they get the alt-country label-see them more as folk/rock groups. As far as the new Wilco goes, they are not where I want to go for a nice sounding mellow vibe. Liked Tweedy best when he was angry.
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I'm with vansmack on this one, the new clap your hands sucks.
As for Neon Bible, I like it a lot, but it isn't nearly as good as Funeral.
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Originally posted by bnyced0:
Originally posted by Brandon Brendall, the thief:
Bloc Party - A Weekend In the City
If it wasn't so underwhelming, I might have considered getting tickets to their show at DAR, but this coupled with their history of underwhelming live shows, it's just not worth it to me.
Just curious, how many underwhelming live Bloc Party shows have you personally been to? [/b]
Two. They weren't bad or anything, but with the energy on their first album you'd expect them to actually be a little interesting on stage and not just blow through the set as if they were doing a chore.
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Bloc Party, Clap Your Hands Say Yeah.
and while Neon Bible isn't as good as funeral, thats a damn hard act to follow and i still think its a stellar album.
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Just wondering what ear filter do I need to purchase to make a AF album sound good that sounds like it was recorded in a pool full of water before being heard on my end while having a major head cold? So yeah... I second, fourth, fifth or whatever we are up to the Arcade Fire album.
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Originally posted by le sonick:
Originally posted by bnyced0:
At first blush the new Bloc Party didn't grab me, but it has gotten better with every listen to the point I think it's brillant.
i really think brilliant is going a bit far!
fun, exciting, energetic, infectous...maybe, but brilliant seems like it would imply some sort of originality and innovative---ness. [/b]
Who do you think they sound like or ripped off for this particular album?
And to abuse the word I think Favorite Worst Nightmare is brillant as well.
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By a country mile, the new Stooges record.
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Originally posted by PigIron:
By a country mile, the new Stooges record.
We have a winner!
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Amy Winehouse - Don't understand what the fuss is about with it's lifeless soul music created via sampler..
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Originally posted by kosmo:
Amy Winehouse - Don't understand what the fuss is about with it's lifeless soul music created via sampler..
Try "Frank" and if the feeling persists then she just isn't your cup of tea...uh umm bourbon. She's not terribly original, but it's not a genre that has many barriers left to be broken. She is however a gifted vocalist who has the chops live. Whether the album seems contrived/studio machinations is a personal opinion but she's no joke as a performer, when's she's sober (or drunk) enough to perform. There in lies the "fuss" I think, she kills live... the albums are good, but not earth shattering and I think the real fuss is limited to the UK, selling 60K albums here really isn't shit.
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Originally posted by kosmo:
Amy Winehouse - Don't understand what the fuss is about with it's lifeless soul music created via sampler..
I can see that, and her public persona of wanting to be the female Pete Doherty is tiring and boring. But I've got to admit I love the first 5 songs, and I play them all the time. The tunes, the sound, her voice -- I think it's really appealing. I also love Neon Bible, even more than Funeral, so go figure.
Disappointments thus far:
Kings of Leon
Fratellis
LCD Soundsystem
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Originally posted by bnyced0:
Originally posted by kosmo:
[qb]I think the real fuss is limited to the UK, selling 60K albums here really isn't shit. [/b]
She sold 60k her first week, when hardly anyone knew about her here. Back to Black will sell a million-plus in the US, eventually. It's just now getting pushed by the labels, and her theatre shows are selling out all over the country. She still might end up a one-hit wonder, but I'm betting she'll get at least 2 big hits off the album.
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I also agree that the new CYHSY and Bloc Party suck.
terrible.
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so whats disappointing about the Voxtrot? is it all new material or a combo of old and new. i always found the production on the EPs a bit lacking is that still the case. just curious...
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I think a few of the songs on the new Ted Leo are real clunkers and some are embarassing mistakes (that f'ing white boy reggae song, parts of bomb.repeat.bomb). There are some songs I really like, but overall underwhelming.
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I just saw Amy in Philly and she was really good. She seemed either really bored or nervous. No one could understand what she was saying between songs, though. I believe she was speaking "English." She's just a wee little girl. But the brief tank top and daisy dukes helped.
I was a bit disappointed by the Modest Mouse album. However, I loved the Kings of Leon album. Maybe you have to be really drunk to like that one, though.
Brian
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Originally posted by kosmo:
so whats disappointing about the Voxtrot? is it all new material or a combo of old and new. i always found the production on the EPs a bit lacking is that still the case. just curious...
They got a serious case of Coldplayitis. The light-hearted indie-pop of their first two EPs has given way to more affected balladry. The reverb has moved to the background and the vocals and lyrics are front and center on the new album. Some of it is okay, but some of it is just plain post-Britpop dreck.
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bummer... looks like it will be an eMusic download then.
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The Rakes - Ten New Messages
Just not nearly as good as capture/release. granted ive only heard it one time, and perhaps need to give it another chance as i really liked their first album.
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I like the new Bloc Party. I guess the big thing for me is that they cut back the insane compression on his vocals so he sounds like a singer, not that RHCP squashedness. It last one he sounded like he was really in your face, and that didn't work for me.
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I agree on Ted Leo. If it has cut out after the 1st 7 songs or so, it would have been one of the best EPs released this year.
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I will add the Neil Young - Live at Massey Hall album to the roll of the underwhelming.
I keep expecting Young to release something akin to the Dylan Bootleg collection and he keeps coming up short.
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Originally posted by ggwâ?¢:
I will add the Neil Young - Live at Massey Hall album to the roll of the underwhelming.
Really? Do you just not like acoustic Neil in general, or is there something specific you don't like about this one? I found the DVD to be a little dull, but I think the CD is wonderful.
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Originally posted by ggwâ?¢:
I will add the Neil Young - Live at Massey Hall album to the roll of the underwhelming.
I keep expecting Young to release something akin to the Dylan Bootleg collection and he keeps coming up short.
While I'd like to see a hot Neil show come out, at least there exists Arc/Weld and Live Rust, both of which are excellent.
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Originally posted by Bombay Chutney:
Really? Do you just not like acoustic Neil in general, or is there something specific you don't like about this one? I found the DVD to be a little dull, but I think the CD is wonderful.
I like acoustic just fine. I think I was just expecting something phenomenal and this comes up a little short. I'm not throwing it on the dustbin or anything, but I have a bunch of Neil Young boots (including a seven-disc set of acoustic stuff) and I think that Young must have something better in his vaults. Massey Hall may just be a victim of my elevated expectations.
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Originally posted by Relaxer:
Originally posted by bnyced0:
Originally posted by kosmo:
[qb]I think the real fuss is limited to the UK, selling 60K albums here really isn't shit. [/b]
She sold 60k her first week, when hardly anyone knew about her here. Back to Black will sell a million-plus in the US, eventually. It's just now getting pushed by the labels, and her theatre shows are selling out all over the country. She still might end up a one-hit wonder, but I'm betting she'll get at least 2 big hits off the album. [/b]
You could be right, about eventually going platinum, but the point was there WASN'T a fuss, which your point about "hardly anyone knew about her here." amply exemplified.
I think in "our" circles she was well enough known, but you dont' become a major seller in our circles, she could perhaps sell 250K. Her shows are still only selling out to alternative audiences, if adult contemporary radio (ala K.T. Tunstall, Corrine Bailey Rae, etc ) get ahold of her than it could happen, though I have to admit I'm a bit ignorant of how radio works these days since I only listen to NPR, over the internet.
I'm a Amy W. fan, so I wouldn't begrudge her stateside stardom though I think it would be the death of her, literally. But I don't see the same dynamic working for her to be massive (platinum plus sales) as the other recent brit imports that had similiar success in the UK, and unfortunately it's due to her being a little "too urban" for the plain jane crowd that has to get engaged to get sales over 1million.
In other words, I don't think it's going to happen, but won't be surprised if it does.
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Originally posted by kcjones119:
I think a few of the songs on the new Ted Leo are real clunkers and some are embarassing mistakes (that f'ing white boy reggae song, parts of bomb.repeat.bomb). There are some songs I really like, but overall underwhelming.
Bomb.Repeat.Bomb is unlistenable. I retract my previous statements, this is the most disappointing album of the year. So disappointing that I forgot it existed.
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Are you sure the mainstream hasn't already gotten ahold of her? I mean her album has been in the top 20 for seven weeks now, whereas the Shins, Arcade Fire, and Modest Mouse, who all debuted high, saw their sales drop off quickly. And I heard "Rehab" on 94.7 the Globe.
I also heard Lily Allen at Trader Joe's today.
Originally posted by bnyced0:
Originally posted by Relaxer:
Originally posted by bnyced0:
Originally posted by kosmo:
[qb]I think the real fuss is limited to the UK, selling 60K albums here really isn't shit. [/b]
She sold 60k her first week, when hardly anyone knew about her here. Back to Black will sell a million-plus in the US, eventually. It's just now getting pushed by the labels, and her theatre shows are selling out all over the country. She still might end up a one-hit wonder, but I'm betting she'll get at least 2 big hits off the album. [/b]
You could be right, about eventually going platinum, but the point was there WASN'T a fuss, which your point about "hardly anyone knew about her here." amply exemplified.
I think in "our" circles she was well enough known, but you dont' become a major seller in our circles, she could perhaps sell 250K. Her shows are still only selling out to alternative audiences, if adult contemporary radio (ala K.T. Tunstall, Corrine Bailey Rae, etc ) get ahold of her than it could happen, though I have to admit I'm a bit ignorant of how radio works these days since I only listen to NPR, over the internet.
I'm a Amy W. fan, so I wouldn't begrudge her stateside stardom though I think it would be the death of her, literally. But I don't see the same dynamic working for her to be massive (platinum plus sales) as the other recent brit imports that had similiar success in the UK, and unfortunately it's due to her being a little "too urban" for the plain jane crowd that has to get engaged to get sales over 1million.
In other words, I don't think it's going to happen, but won't be surprised if it does. [/b]
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I'm a Amy W. fan, so I wouldn't begrudge her stateside stardom though I think it would be the death of her, literally. But I don't see the same dynamic working for her to be massive (platinum plus sales) as the other recent brit imports that had similiar success in the UK, and unfortunately it's due to her being a little "too urban" for the plain jane crowd that has to get engaged to get sales over 1million.
In other words, I don't think it's going to happen, but won't be surprised if it does. [/qb]
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Let's face it - America was clueless about Amy Winehouse until bull@930 burst onto the scene like a special needs Swedish foreign exchange student on amyl nitrites and opened everyone's eyes. When you were building hipster cred telling everyone "Yeah Lily Allen's good but you gotta hear Amy Winehouse" before you even know who the fuck she was . . . that was all bull. Meanwhile his dream of seeing Amy at the 9:30 Club continues to fade like dying embers. Such is life.
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Originally posted by Mobius:
Let's face it - America was clueless about Amy Winehouse until bull@930 burst onto the scene like a special needs Swedish foreign exchange student on amyl nitrites and opened everyone's eyes. When you were building hipster cred telling everyone "Yeah Lily Allen's good but you gotta hear Amy Winehouse" before you even know who the fuck she was . . . that was all bull. Meanwhile his dream of seeing Amy at the 9:30 Club continues to fade like dying embers. Such is life.
Post of the week!
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I'm a Amy W. fan, so I wouldn't begrudge her stateside stardom though I think it would be the death of her, literally. But I don't see the same dynamic working for her to be massive (platinum plus sales) as the other recent brit imports that had similiar success in the UK, and unfortunately it's due to her being a little "too urban" for the plain jane crowd that has to get engaged to get sales over 1million.
First of all, Amy Winehouse is at no risk at all of dying. Her whole 'elegantly wasted' shtick is just that, a shtick. She knows exactly what's she doing, and she is not out of control by any streth. I'm sure she likes a drink, but more than anything, she knows that she's created an image that generates headlines and fans. "Oh no, this might be my last time to see Amy Winehouse before she goes all Janis on us!"
Second, the fact the she name-checks Slick Rick and has Ghostface Killah on her US album tells me that she's not trying to appeal to the vanilla crowd. That's not the crowd that's propelled Ne-yo, Akon and Joe to mass sales.
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Can't believe yet another thread has turned into a Amy W. discussion...
She'll sell that million if Lite FM picks up on her, the audience favors their velveeta.
Here is some highlights of a review from her recent NYC show at the new Highline Ballroom
The set was peppered with material from both of her albums, 2003's Frank and this year's Back To Black. As expected, she seemed a bit schnockered, as well as a bit uncomfortable in front of the packed crowd.
For some reason, Winehouse's dress was driving her mad. She attempted to get the attention of her tour manager, as she was wanting to change clothes during the middle of her set. All she wanted was her jeans, but that had to wait until the encore.
Winehouse ended her set with an oddly sped-up rendition of her single, "Rehab,"...
Now dressed in jeans, she gave her finest performance of the night, "Me And Mr. Jones." She, for once, commanded the stage, slinking around and giving the occasional hip thrust as she asked "what kind of fuckery are we?"
My favorite from the review is about the venue
Centered smack dab in the middle of the meat packing district, it has a slightly pretentious vibe and very mediocre sound. Consider me unimpressed.
the tripwire (http://www.thetripwire.com/news/2007/5/10/live-amy-winehouse-highline-ballroom-nyc)
Based on the fact that she is backed by the Dap-Kings a working retro soul band who normally back Sharon Jones, I'm willing to at least check her out live and "Frank" out if it ever gets released domestically. By the album is like a package of America Cheese slices..
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