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=> GENERAL DISCUSSION => Topic started by: whitneybrook on September 29, 2004, 12:26:00 am

Title: Why tickets.com?
Post by: whitneybrook on September 29, 2004, 12:26:00 am
Why does 930 only allow its tickets to be sold through tickets.com? The reason I ask is because the fees associated with tickets.com purchases are much higher than ticketmaster ($9 for two tickets plus $3.75 for distribution whether they are mailed or picked up at will call.)  That's easily twice the normal ticketmaster rate for a similar $15 Black Cat advanced purchase through ticketmaster.  Does 930 club think it's making a stand against ticketmaster (undermined by the IPM ticketmaster situation--I assume through the website that IPM an 930 are related)? If so, how do we feel about 930 making a stand at our expense? How valuable is that stand when the main objection to ticketmaster has been that it can over charge due to its 'monopoly'? Is 930 getting a kickback from tickets.com--or are they otherwise affilitated--which would suggest that the 930 club is really just charging more than the face value/ticket for those who purchase tickets online. If this is not the case and 930 club only gets the face value, I encourage them to consider ticketmaster; you and your customers are losing out otherwise.
Title: Re: Why tickets.com?
Post by: Random Citizen on September 29, 2004, 01:06:00 am
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Title: Re: Why tickets.com?
Post by: Seth Hurwitz on September 29, 2004, 07:18:00 am
I'll say it again
 
 we are capitalists trying to make as much money as we can from all of this
 
 that doesn't mean we don't care about our customers, it just means we try to maximize profits
 
 as far as the consumer goes, it's classic supply & demand - if you feel the total price of a ticket is too much, you shouldn't go
 
 if you want to worry about how that total ticket price was arrived at, that's up to you, but it won't change anything
Title: Re: Why tickets.com?
Post by: eltee on September 29, 2004, 08:30:00 am
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Originally posted by wbm900:
  the fees associated with tickets.com purchases are much higher than ticketmaster ($9 for two tickets plus $3.75 for distribution whether they are mailed or picked up at will call.)  
I haven't really performed a study, but through my experience tickets.com is a few bucks cheaper. With ticketbastarder, I've found w/ one ticket (will call / snail mail) I've tacked on mucho dinero in fees to an otherwise decent ticket cost. Seriously, where are you finding your tickets at ticketbastarder - the bargain bin?
 Club has box office hours w/ $1 service charge.
 Ticketbastarder box offices hold higher fees.
 (I'm quoting correctly on those, right?)
Title: Re: Why tickets.com?
Post by: eltee on September 29, 2004, 08:32:00 am
Title: Re: Why tickets.com?
Post by: sonickteam2 on September 29, 2004, 08:46:00 am
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Originally posted by Sugartastic Tee Silk:
 I haven't really performed a study, but through my experience tickets.com is a few bucks cheaper. With ticketbastarder, I've found w/ one ticket (will call / snail mail) I've tacked on mucho dinero in fees to an otherwise decent ticket cost. Seriously, where are you finding your tickets at ticketbastarder - the bargain bin?
 Club has box office hours w/ $1 service charge.
 Ticketbastarder box offices hold higher fees.
 (I'm quoting correctly on those, right?)
yeah, you really should be talking about ticket prices blondie.
Title: Re: Why tickets.com?
Post by: distance on September 29, 2004, 11:58:00 am
unless you can buy tickets at the box office (which i never can), you'd be screwed with service charges no matter which company.  ticketmaster is just as bad.
 
 protix never had a website to order through did they?
Title: Re: Why tickets.com?
Post by: sonickteam2 on September 29, 2004, 12:03:00 pm
the only thing that pisses me off is this
 
   I decide to but tickets for the Tragically Hip because i think they are going to sell out.
 
   $25 a piece or $64.25 for 2!
 
   I figure thats pretty steep, so I'll wait til i get there on the 25th to buy my Death Cab For Cutie tickets.
 
  NOPE.  Sold out that morning apparently.  and furthermore, the Tragically hip never sold out at all.  
 
   not a gripe about tickets.com just a pisser of a situation caused by my refusal to pay an extra $7-$10 per ticket.  it really causes me to miss a lot of shows.
Title: Re: Why tickets.com?
Post by: kosmo vinyl on September 29, 2004, 12:09:00 pm
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Originally posted by distance:
  unless you can buy tickets at the box office (which i never can), you'd be screwed with service charges no matter which company.  ticketmaster is just as bad.
 
 protix never had a website to order through did they?
yeah they did right before tickets.com bought them...
Title: Re: Why tickets.com?
Post by: Dr. Anton Phibes on September 29, 2004, 12:25:00 pm
I will say one thing......it's a helluva lot harder to get ticks in person from tickets.com than ticketmaster......not very many outlets at all for tickets.com...or maybe I'm just pissed because I have a Tower less than 10 minutes from home and god only knows where the hell the nearest tickets.com outlet is!.....who knows....
Title: Re: Why tickets.com?
Post by: J'Mal on September 29, 2004, 12:27:00 pm
seth,
 
 as oingo boingo once sang, there's nothing wrong with capitalism, there's nothing wrong with free enterprise.....
 
 but then, why not say that a ticket is $30, instead of $15 with $15 worth of service charges?  Sometimes it feels that way....
 
 wouldn't you also make more $$$ if you just set up your own ticketing website?  then you can raise the ticket prices and eliminate the charges, or keep the charges for yourself.
 
 frankly, why ticketmaster is necessary in this day and age?  especially when they don't own the venue...
Title: Re: Why tickets.com?
Post by: kosmo vinyl on September 29, 2004, 12:41:00 pm
cue ggw
Title: Re: Why tickets.com?
Post by: kosmo vinyl on September 29, 2004, 12:43:00 pm
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Originally posted by The O' Rotten Factor:
  I will say one thing......it's a helluva lot harder to get ticks in person from tickets.com than ticketmaster......not very many outlets at all for tickets.com...or maybe I'm just pissed because I have a Tower less than 10 minutes from home and god only knows where the hell the nearest tickets.com outlet is!.....who knows....
not the easiet link to find but
 
 http://www.tickets.com/b2b/maryland_virginia_outlets.html (http://www.tickets.com/b2b/maryland_virginia_outlets.html)
Title: Re: Why tickets.com?
Post by: ggw on September 29, 2004, 12:48:00 pm
Even ggw is tired of this topic, so he's staying out of it.
 
 
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Originally posted by kosmo vinyl:
  cue ggw
Title: Re: Why tickets.com?
Post by: kosmo vinyl on September 29, 2004, 12:53:00 pm
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Originally posted by ggwâ?¢:
  Even ggw is tired of this topic, so he's staying out of it.
 
   
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Originally posted by kosmo vinyl:
  cue ggw
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ok... it's just you seem to have better recall regarding the seth quote about how people will still bitch about the service charge even if ticketing  were brought in house.... guess this thread should have closed when seth weighed in.
 
 i'm tired of it too  :roll:
Title: Re: Why tickets.com?
Post by: distance on September 29, 2004, 12:53:00 pm
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Originally posted by kosmo vinyl:
   
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Originally posted by distance:
  unless you can buy tickets at the box office (which i never can), you'd be screwed with service charges no matter which company.  ticketmaster is just as bad.
 
 protix never had a website to order through did they?
yeah they did right before tickets.com bought them... [/b]
i just remember always having to use the phone, thus getting screwed on tickets quite often for stuff that was sure to sell out quickly.
 
 i think there was almost 2 years where i didn't come to the club, so i guess tickets.com acquired protix during that time.
 
 and i guess just to add, i'm not bitching about the fees, don't really have much of a choice about paying them unless we can conveniently get to an outlet.. i'm just happy to be able to use the internet to get tickets to the club now, rather than having to use the phone every time.
Title: Re: Why tickets.com?
Post by: megs on September 29, 2004, 12:54:00 pm
you can get tickets.com tickets at all the olssons in the area.
Title: Re: Why tickets.com?
Post by: Bags on September 29, 2004, 11:01:00 pm
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Originally posted by megs:
  you can get tickets.com tickets at all the olssons in the area.
And you can order them online, get them at Will Call, and pick them up at the club anytime.  Like at the next show you're at....  I'm super sick of this topic too.  Sorry Seth has to keep chiming in after *trying* to go with an alternative.
Title: Re: Why tickets.com?
Post by: Seth Hurwitz on September 30, 2004, 08:05:00 am
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Originally posted by J'Mal:
  seth,
 wouldn't you also make more $$$ if you just set up your own ticketing website?
well now let's just think about that for a moment
 
 with charges as they are WITHOUT me having to pay people to run that operation, what do you suppose they'd be after I had to organize and staff it?
Title: Re: Why tickets.com?
Post by: Bombay Chutney on September 30, 2004, 10:40:00 am
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Originally posted by Bags:
  And you can order them online, get them at Will Call, and pick them up at the club anytime.  Like at the next show you're at....  
I love this feature.  Does TM let you do that, or is that a venue thing?  I've never tried it anywhere other than 9:30.
Title: Re: Why tickets.com?
Post by: Bags on September 30, 2004, 06:11:00 pm
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Originally posted by Bombay Chutney:
   I've never tried it anywhere other than 9:30.
You go places besides 9:30?!?!?  TRAITOR!  Oh, except for Merriweather.
   :p