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Title: WEDRock
Post by: dlcjr1775 on September 30, 2004, 01:34:00 pm
I'm amazed that there hasn't been more discussion about this show on the board. Do most of the regulars not attend Blowoff from time to time, or is there no interest in the issue of gay marriage, or what? I'll be there, in the VIP section to boot, and I'm straight, I just think that if two men or women want to marry, it's their own business, who is the gov't to tell them different. Plus, I get to see Bob Mould perform, which is always a pleasure. Any thoughts?
Title: Re: WEDRock
Post by: bearman🐻 on September 30, 2004, 02:27:00 pm
I'll be right there with ya in VIP, God bless payday. I want to say hello to Henry Rollins. Bob Mould, what more can be said? He's phenomenal. Rich Morel's band is great, too. Blowoff is so much fun...there's a pic of me from MW this week from the last Blowoff (I'll let you guess which one I am): http://www.metroweekly.com/scene/?k=470 (http://www.metroweekly.com/scene/?k=470)
 
 Without a doubt this is an important issue and it's for a good cause. Thanks for the post and for emphasizing that even though it's a gay marriage thing, it's not just another gay show. It's cool to have everyone stand up for the rights of others, and given the current political climate it just saddens and angers me that people are so against letting others be treated on equal basis. More than anything, I just think it will be a fun evening for a good cause. It's not a cheap ticket, but it's a benefit after all. I hope that people will consider going to this one.
Title: Re: WEDRock
Post by: Charlie Nakatestes, Japanese Golfer on September 30, 2004, 02:30:00 pm
too expensive plus i don't like any of the acts
 
 I support gay marriage, but I suspect those pushing that agenda have deeper financial pockets than I do.
Title: Re: WEDRock
Post by: Julian, Alleged Computer F**kface on September 30, 2004, 02:31:00 pm
too expensive plus i don't support gay marriage
Title: Re: WEDRock
Post by: markie on September 30, 2004, 02:38:00 pm
<img src="http://www.metroweekly.com/scene/pics/2004-09-30_470_7896.jpg" alt=" - " />
 
 That is you on the right, right?
 
 I dont understand why anyone would want to get married.
Title: Re: WEDRock
Post by: Charlie Nakatestes, Japanese Golfer on September 30, 2004, 02:41:00 pm
nice to see Mankie sent you his personal pic before leaving.
 
 
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Originally posted by Deepak Chopra:
   <img src="http://www.metroweekly.com/scene/pics/2004-09-30_470_7896.jpg" alt=" - " />
 
 That is you on the right, right?
 
 I dont understand why anyone would want to get married.
Title: Re: WEDRock
Post by: xcanuck on September 30, 2004, 03:12:00 pm
I'd love to see the show but more to support the cause than anything. I'm straight but can't understand how people can be so narrow-minded as to care whether or not gay people want to suffer in married hell like the rest of us  ;)  I guess people just want to hate somebody....
Title: Re: WEDRock
Post by: bearman🐻 on September 30, 2004, 03:17:00 pm
Ha! SO not me. I don't even think either of them are cute.
Title: Re: WEDRock
Post by: bearman🐻 on September 30, 2004, 03:19:00 pm
Personally, I think marriage kind of sucks too, but what's not right for me might be right for someone else. They should have the freedom to decide and choose that for themselves.
Title: Re: WEDRock
Post by: Charlie Nakatestes, Japanese Golfer on September 30, 2004, 03:19:00 pm
I can easily understand why people can be against gay marriage, but I don't agree with them.
 
 
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Originally posted by xcanuck:
  I'd love to see the show but more to support the cause than anything. I'm straight but can't understand how people can be so narrow-minded as to care whether or not gay people want to suffer in married hell like the rest of us   ;)   I guess people just want to hate somebody....
Title: Re: WEDRock
Post by: markie on September 30, 2004, 03:22:00 pm
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Originally posted by bunnyman:
  Ha! SO not me. I don't even think either of them are cute.
I know, I was just kidding. Nor do I.
 
 You prefer deported women having to prostitute themselves to nazi's.
Title: Re: WEDRock
Post by: markie on September 30, 2004, 03:24:00 pm
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Originally posted by Rhett Miller:
  I can easily understand why people can be against gay marriage,
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 How? I really couldn't care less what other people do if it has no negative effect on me.
Title: Re: WEDRock
Post by: bearman🐻 on September 30, 2004, 03:33:00 pm
I wish more people would think the way you do. As long as people aren't doing anything to interfere on your life and well-being, I just don't see the problem.
Title: Re: WEDRock
Post by: Random Citizen on September 30, 2004, 03:35:00 pm
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Originally posted by dlcjr1775:
  I'm amazed that there hasn't been more discussion about this show on the board.  
Actually, there was discussion... (http://www.930.com/cgi-bin/ubb-cgi/ultimatebb.cgi?ubb=get_topic;f=1;t=007985)
Title: Re: WEDRock
Post by: Charlie Nakatestes, Japanese Golfer on September 30, 2004, 03:35:00 pm
I mean I can easily understand that for some people, it's a traditional value that marriage is some sort of sacred union of a man and a woman. Not a man and a man or a woman and a woman.
 
 I don't agree with that, but I'm saying I can understand that that's how people feel. It's certainly a notion that's been ingrained in our society for...all of history?
 
 
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Originally posted by Deepak Chopra:
   
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Originally posted by Rhett Miller:
  I can easily understand why people can be against gay marriage,
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How? I really couldn't care less what other people do if it has no negative effect on me. [/QB][/QUOTE]
Title: Re: WEDRock
Post by: Charlie Nakatestes, Japanese Golfer on September 30, 2004, 03:37:00 pm
So if conservatives moved to ban abortion, you would be ok with that?
 
 As a gay man, I imagine such a move would not at all interfere with your life and well-being.
 
 
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Originally posted by bunnyman:
  I wish more people would think the way you do. As long as people aren't doing anything to interfere on your life and well-being, I just don't see the problem.
Title: Re: WEDRock
Post by: markie on September 30, 2004, 03:47:00 pm
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Originally posted by Rhett Miller:
  So if conservatives moved to ban abortion, you would be ok with that?
 
 
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 So just because Bunnyman is a whoopsie it means he has no women friends, relations, acquaintances.
 
 Please stay with your own kind, and I'll stay with mine?
Title: Re: WEDRock
Post by: ggw on September 30, 2004, 03:51:00 pm
what's a "whoopsie"?
Title: Re: WEDRock
Post by: Charlie Nakatestes, Japanese Golfer on September 30, 2004, 03:53:00 pm
BY the same token gay marriage does affect those that are opposed to it in the same indirect way that Bunny would be affected by an abortion ban.
 
 
 
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Originally posted by Deepak Chopra:
   
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Originally posted by Rhett Miller:
  So if conservatives moved to ban abortion, you would be ok with that?
 
 
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So just because Bunnyman is a whoopsie it means he has no women friends, relations, acquaintances.
 
 Please stay with your own kind, and I'll stay with mine? [/QB][/QUOTE]
Title: Re: WEDRock
Post by: markie on September 30, 2004, 03:57:00 pm
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Originally posted by ggwâ?¢:
  what's a "whoopsie"?
I cannot find the Peter's Friends screenplay online.
Title: Re: WEDRock
Post by: markie on September 30, 2004, 03:59:00 pm
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Originally posted by Rhett Miller:
  BY the same token gay marriage does affect those that are opposed to it in the same indirect way that Bunny would be affected by an abortion ban.
 
 
   
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 But how does gay marriage negatively affect anyone?
Title: Re: WEDRock
Post by: Charlie Nakatestes, Japanese Golfer on September 30, 2004, 04:03:00 pm
I think if parents are teaching a value system to their children that marriage is between a man and a woman, and the law goes directly against said value system, it undermines the parent and what they are teaching their child.
 
 
 
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Originally posted by Deepak Chopra:
   
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Originally posted by Rhett Miller:
  BY the same token gay marriage does affect those that are opposed to it in the same indirect way that Bunny would be affected by an abortion ban.
 
 
   
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But how does gay marriage negatively affect anyone? [/QB][/QUOTE]
Title: Re: WEDRock
Post by: markie on September 30, 2004, 04:07:00 pm
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Originally posted by Rhett Miller:
  I think if parents are teaching a value system to their children that marriage is between a man and a woman
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 Do parents actively teach that?
 
 I must have skipped that conversation.
 
 My dad did tell me on the phone today that he had just seen his first Prince Albert. I am so proud of him.
Title: Re: WEDRock
Post by: ggw on September 30, 2004, 04:12:00 pm
what's a "Prince Albert"?
Title: Re: WEDRock
Post by: Charlie Nakatestes, Japanese Golfer on September 30, 2004, 04:12:00 pm
Well there are quite a few devout Catholics in the world. The last time I checked, there were also a few other religions that taught the same thing in regard to marriage.
 
 http://www.usccb.org/laity/manandwoman.htm (http://www.usccb.org/laity/manandwoman.htm)
 
 
 
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Originally posted by Deepak Chopra:
   
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Originally posted by Rhett Miller:
  I think if parents are teaching a value system to their children that marriage is between a man and a woman
[/b]
Do parents actively teach that?
 
 I must have skipped that conversation.
 
 My dad did tell me on the phone today that he had just seen his first Prince Albert. I am so proud of him. [/QB][/QUOTE]
Title: Re: WEDRock
Post by: sonickteam2 on September 30, 2004, 04:14:00 pm
why do you people even make laws if no one really wants to follow them?  
 
   why dont you get it over with and just let everyone do whatever they want!
Title: Re: WEDRock
Post by: markie on September 30, 2004, 04:16:00 pm
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Originally posted by sonickteam2:
   
 
   why dont you get it over with and just let everyone do whatever they want!
You should go back to Canada.
Title: Re: WEDRock
Post by: sonickteam2 on September 30, 2004, 04:18:00 pm
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Originally posted by Deepak Chopra:
 You should go back to Canada.
wanker
Title: Re: WEDRock
Post by: Charlie Nakatestes, Japanese Golfer on September 30, 2004, 04:19:00 pm
I think his dad must have been confessing to looking at gay porn.
 
 Not that there's anything wrong with it...
 
 
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Originally posted by ggwâ?¢:
  what's a "Prince Albert"?
Title: Re: WEDRock
Post by: markie on September 30, 2004, 04:22:00 pm
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Originally posted by Rhett Miller:
  I think his dad must have been confessing to looking at gay porn.
 
 
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 I think my parents had just been to a nudist beach. Why they felt the need to tel me.... My dad was quite taken aback by the variety of female topiaries he saw.
Title: Re: WEDRock
Post by: Charlie Nakatestes, Japanese Golfer on September 30, 2004, 04:24:00 pm
What is a "topiary"?
Title: Re: WEDRock
Post by: thirsty moore on September 30, 2004, 04:24:00 pm
Nah, that was the cold water.
 
 
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Originally posted by Deepak Chopra:
 My dad was quite taken aback by the variety of female topiaries he saw.
Title: Re: WEDRock
Post by: markie on September 30, 2004, 04:24:00 pm
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Originally posted by sonickteam2:
   
wanker [/QB][/QUOTE]
 
 Surely you mean. Wanker!
Title: Re: WEDRock
Post by: markie on September 30, 2004, 04:27:00 pm
topiary
 
 
 \Top"i*a*ry\, a. [L. topiarius belonging to ornamental gardening, fr. topia (sc. opera) ornamental gardening, fr. Gr. ? a place.] Of or pertaining to ornamental gardening; produced by cutting, trimming, etc.; topiarian.
 
 Topiary work, arbors, shrubbery, hedges, or the like, cut and trimmed into fanciful forms, as of animals, buildings, etc.
Title: Re: WEDRock
Post by: markie on September 30, 2004, 04:28:00 pm
Quote
Originally posted by econo:
  Nah, that was the cold water.
 
   
I think the water is warm in Gran Canaria this time of year.
Title: Re: WEDRock
Post by: bearman🐻 on September 30, 2004, 05:24:00 pm
Rhett, the issue here is FREEDOM to do what you want to do. What a woman does is not my business, but she has that right. The issue is not holy matrimony in a religious way either. It is simply the ability to have a union that is like anyone else's most gay people probably don't care about the term marriage anyway. Civil union will do just fine. Just because the abortion thing is something that I will never have to deal with doesn't mean that I don't care about a woman's right to choose. If it doesn't affect me personally, it doesn't mean that I don't care. I repeat...it's about freedom.
Title: Re: WEDRock
Post by: Bags on September 30, 2004, 06:20:00 pm
I would go but I'm going to be out of town....Have fun, and live it up VIP-style!!
Title: Re: WEDRock
Post by: Charlie Nakatestes, Japanese Golfer on September 30, 2004, 06:29:00 pm
The issue for you (and me) is freedom, That is what you value. Other people have a differing set of values at to what and how they believe society should be. I'm just saying.
 
 
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Originally posted by bunnyman:
  Rhett, the issue here is FREEDOM to do what you want to do. What a woman does is not my business, but she has that right. The issue is not holy matrimony in a religious way either. It is simply the ability to have a union that is like anyone else's most gay people probably don't care about the term marriage anyway. Civil union will do just fine. Just because the abortion thing is something that I will never have to deal with doesn't mean that I don't care about a woman's right to choose. If it doesn't affect me personally, it doesn't mean that I don't care. I repeat...it's about freedom.
Title: Re: WEDRock
Post by: thatguy on October 01, 2004, 03:35:00 pm
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Originally posted by ggwâ?¢:
  what's a "Prince Albert"?
penis ahoy! (http://cgi.bmezine.com/cgi-bin/glossary.exe?search=pa&full=yes)
Title: Re: WEDRock
Post by: ksimpson1138 on October 04, 2004, 12:40:00 pm
Does anyone know when the Wedrock show is supposed to actually start?
 
 Also, will VIPs actually have access to stools on the "exclusive balcony"?
Title: Re: WEDRock
Post by: bearman🐻 on October 04, 2004, 01:15:00 pm
I am pretty sure doors are at 7:30, would imagine it will start by 8-ish. Not sure about the setup, but I would also imagine there will be some stools upstairs too in the VIP area.
Title: Re: WEDRock
Post by: ksimpson1138 on October 04, 2004, 01:31:00 pm
The 9:30 site has doors opening at 7, but I agree that it will probably start pretty quickly given the number of performers they have to get on and off.  Thanks for responding.
Title: Re: WEDRock
Post by: Bombay Chutney on October 04, 2004, 02:00:00 pm
According to Mould's blog: Doors at 7:00.  Show starts at 8:00.
Title: Re: WEDRock
Post by: Bartelby on October 04, 2004, 02:30:00 pm
Hey, great thread.  Let's see:  Our White House is presently "owned" by an administration/political party which spends so much time, energy, funding limiting access to birthcontrol  (and withholding  dues to the United Nations supporting such in other countries...); campaigning against a woman's right to abortion when birthcontrol fails ; proposing a Constitutional Amendment banning gay marriage; and destroying stem cell research programs.  Then jump up and down like squealing babies when anyone proposes any form of gun control - thus removing one of THIER RIGHTS?
 
 What's REALLY going on?  Hmmmmmmm.  Have a great time tonight.  I'll buy the first few bottles of Champagne for the Bunnyman's wedding reception!! (I also think straight chicks should refuse to have sex with any raging Repubican guy who supports the above.  We'll call it  "The Great Republican Penis boycott " (Can I use the "P" word on this board...?)  See you angry homophobic/mysoginists at the polls, suckers.
Title: Re: WEDRock
Post by: Celeste on October 04, 2004, 03:22:00 pm
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Originally posted by Suki:
  Hey, great thread.  Let's see:  (I also think straight chicks should refuse to have sex with any raging Repubican guy who supports the above.  We'll call it  "The Great Republican Penis boycott " (Can I use the "P" word on this board...?)  See you angry homophobic/mysoginists at the polls, suckers.
I don't think you should use the word "great" with the words "republican penis" in the same phrase like that...
Title: Re: WEDRock
Post by: Bartelby on October 04, 2004, 03:40:00 pm
See how brainwashed I  am? Make that "The tiny Republican Penis boycott."
Title: Re: WEDRock
Post by: Charlie Nakatestes, Japanese Golfer on October 04, 2004, 03:43:00 pm
I dunno, Vincent Gallo was pretty well hung in the Brown Bunny, and he's a Republican.
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Originally posted by Suki:
  See how brainwashed I  am? Make that "The tiny Republican Penis boycott."
Title: Re: WEDRock
Post by: bearman🐻 on October 05, 2004, 11:37:00 am
Any idea what time Rich Morel and Bob Mould go on? I couldn't see all the set times on the main page.
Title: Re: WEDRock
Post by: Random Citizen on October 05, 2004, 11:45:00 am
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Originally posted by bunnyman:
  Any idea what time Rich Morel and Bob Mould go on? I couldn't see all the set times on the main page.
Tuesday, October 5
 Doors Open 7pm
 Henry Rollins (intro) 8:00
 Sandra Bernhard 8:05
 David Catania 8:40
 Avenue D 8:50
 John Cameron Mitchell 9:05
 Purty Mouth 9:20
 Morel 9:35
 Bob Mould 9:50
Title: Re: WEDRock
Post by: eltee on October 05, 2004, 12:04:00 pm
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Originally posted by Suki:
  See how brainwashed I  am? Make that "The tiny Republican Penis boycott."
Republicans have sex?
Title: Re: WEDRock
Post by: bearman🐻 on October 05, 2004, 01:00:00 pm
Thanks Random Citizen!
Title: Re: WEDRock
Post by: bearman🐻 on October 06, 2004, 09:43:00 am
How friggin' awesome was it to see Bob Mould to play with a full band again? Last time I saw that was on his last tour with a band in 1998. This was such an amazing surprise. Avenue D were totally crazy, and not quite as good as Peaches. But they clearly were going down that same path. The highlight for me was the very end with Bob wailing away on "Makes No Sense At All". That was just SO rockin'. And talking to Henry Rollins (who is going to move back to the DC area) was pretty awesome as well. What a fun night.
Title: Re: WEDRock
Post by: Bombay Chutney on October 06, 2004, 09:51:00 am
Fun show.  Who knew Sandra Bernhard could rock?   Henry was a great host, even though he forgot Rich Morel's name.  oops.  Avenue D was 2 women rappers dressed in slutty wedding garb a la Madonna ("gown" doesn't quite capture what they were wearing).  They sounded like a cross between Salt-n-Pepa and Bikini Kill. Even Rhett would have liked Purty Mouth, with their covers of "Jackson" and "Two Story House".  Mitchell played a Neutral Milk Hotel song, but I'm not sure of the title.
 
 Bob, of course, had the most rocking set of the night.  Unfortunately, it was also probably the shortest.  3 songs in maybe 10 minutes. "Makes No Sense At All" was worth the price of admission though.
 
 Lots o' fun.