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=> GENERAL DISCUSSION => Topic started by: sonickteam2 on February 15, 2007, 06:18:00 pm
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I cant find the original thread on this. (http://www.fmqb.com/Article.asp?id=352079)
Al Gore Announces Massive Environmental Concerts
February 15, 2007
Red Hot Chili Peppers
Former Vice President Al Gore announced today that he has helped organize a group of giant concerts, dubbed Live Earth, to raise awareness about global warming. The concerts are set up similar to Live 8, as they will all take place on July 7 ?? 7/7/07 ?? in seven cities: London, Shanghai, Sydney, Johannesburg, and cities to be determined in Brazil, Japan and the United States. Snoop Dogg, Pharrell, Red Hot Chili Peppers, Black Eyed Peas, Bon Jovi, Fall Out Boy, Akon, Lenny Kravitz, John Legend, Kelly Clarkson, John Mayer, Foo Fighters, KoRn, AFI and Sheryl Crow are among the artists who have already signed on. More will be announced at a later date and over 100 artists in total are expected to perform.
The events, which will combine film, music and televised material, are expected to reach an audience of more than 2 billion people. Microsoft's MSN will broadcast the concert on the Internet, and NBC-Universal, Sirius and XM Satellite Radio also will take part, according to the Financial Times. In the U.K., the BBC will broadcast the event.
The announcement was made today by Cameron Diaz, Gore, Pharrell and concert organizer Kevin Wall (who also organized Live 8) at a press conference at the California Science Center. Concert proceeds will go to fund The Alliance for Climate Protection, a movement chaired by Gore. The organizers also plan to use only electricity from renewable sources, employ recycling and biodegradable materials where possible, and offset travel via carbon credits.
British band Muse also recently spoke to London's XFM about the event, saying that they were invited to play. Drummer Dom Howard explained, ??We??ve been asked, there's gonna be something happening, some big global gig. It's happening in seven continents, around the world, all on the seventh [of July] in 24 hours, and there??s going to be loads of bands playing. That's all I know.? When asked if Muse would like to take part, singer Matt Bellamy added, ??We??re thinking about it, there??s an issue, we??ll see how it goes. We??ve got a gig on that same day, in Ireland you see, so we need to work out if we can make it or not.?
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Why do these events always tend to get terrible artists?
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where's the artists that are supposed to make us want to go to this?
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has anyone else seen that "Black Eyed Peas for Hire" ad on SNL? really funny stuff, i can't find it on youtube
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and cities to be determined in Brazil, Japan and the United States.
does this mean DC is off the confirmed list of cities? hope not, i wouldn't mind having the option of (easily) attending.
where's the artists that are supposed to make us want to go to this?
while i'm hoping that your answer lies in the phrase "More will be announced at a later date and over 100 artists in total are expected to perform", i wouldn't be opposed to catching Snoop, Lenny Kravitz, John Legend, and Foo Fighters. but for the indie-only crowd, i can see how the announced names are less than stellar. however, the goal of today's press conference was to gain public attention - saying that Son Volt and The Dears are on the bill isn't going to get this event in the minds of 2 billion people. i'm hoping higher quality (and thus lesser known) acts will be announced eventually.
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For D.C. I think there is an issue about getting the mall. . . the National Park Service already has two applications for that date, including the Smithsonian folk-life festival, and say they won't give priority to this.
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That lineup seems fitting for Al Gore. A good idea, well-intentioned, but the execution leaves a bad taste in your mouth. I'd respect the park service for rejecting a permit concluding its appropriate to use federal land for such a shite concert.
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Who wants stinky hippies to piss on our pure, local federal lands?
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Add a Portishead or MBV reunion and I'm sold, man.
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why are people upset with the lineup?
i mean, if you're going to have a concert about something as worldly as global warming, would it make sense to have a bunch of indie/cult bands that most of the world has never heard of?
i hate the lineup too, but if you want 200 million people to want to attend or watch your concert and get the message across the world, you aint getting Death Cab For Cutie to headline...
naw mean?
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Exactly. It's all about getting people to show up and hear your message. You're not going to get 100,000 people on The Mall to see Clap Your Hands Say Yeah.
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Son Volt and the Dears are playing? Sweet!
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rhett: i have no idea if they're playing, i certainly can't confirm them.
i just picked two over-rated indie bands that for reasons unknown seem to have cred on this board
<ducks>
:p
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Clap Your Hands & Say Yeah To The Ridiculous Theory Of Gorbal Warming
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Gore will submit an application to have the show on the mall (if he hasn't already). If/when it gets rejected by the Bush administration, he gets to use it as a political poker chip against the Repubs.
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maybe they can have it at Merriweather!!! :)
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Which is crap really. The Folklife Festival has been on the mall on the same dates for decades.
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I say good for Gore and I hope they have it on the Mall.
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http://www.rollingstone.com/rockdaily/index.php/2007/02/16/update-additions-to-live-earth-lineup/ (http://www.rollingstone.com/rockdaily/index.php/2007/02/16/update-additions-to-live-earth-lineup/)
add Kanye, the Police and Genesis to this list of already confirmed artists announced yesterday... artists haven't been linked to a given location, as far as I can tell. duran duran!!!
Pharrell
Red Hot Chili Peppers
Foo Fighters
Snoop Dogg
Lenny Kravitz
Bon Jovi
Paolo Nutini
Sheryl Crow
AFI
Melissa Etheridge
John Mayer
Damien Rice
Corinne Bailey Rae
Duran Duran
Snow Patrol
John Legend
Black Eyed Peas
Akon
Enrique Iglesias
Fall Out Boy
Mana
Keane
Kelly Clarkson
Korn
Faith Hill w/ Tim McGraw
Bloc Party
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I think its a great idea, of course. Its just feeling like Grammyawardsapolooza, which is not inspiring.
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this is confirmed for dc according to another artical
2/15/07, 12:30 pm EST
Breaking News: Al Gore Announces ??Live Earth? Mega-Concert
Al Gore is teaming up with the organizers of Live 8 and a slew of music biggest stars for a twenty-four hour concert across seven continents (yes, including Antarctica) on July 7th (7/7/07) to raise awareness of environmental issues. The Red Hot Chili Peppers, The Foo Fighters, Snoop Dogg, John Mayer, Akon, A.F.I., Fall Out Boy, Tim McGraw, and Faith Hill are among the participating artists being announced at a press conference in Los Angeles today. Though not all of the locations have been confirmed, organizer Kevin Wall, who spearheaded the Live 8 concerts in 2005, has a possible plan: ??We??ll start in Shanghai, and go to Sydney and Rio De Janeiro and Washington D.C. and London and Johannesburg and finish the show in Kyoto at the old Buddhist temple where we would do an acoustic show and ask the world to take a breath.? The concerts, which will include short films and presentations designed to educate the world on the climate crisis and advocate for specific changes, will be broadcast in over 120 countries ?? on NBC and seven cable networks in the U.S. ?? and webcast on MSN (revenues from ticket sales will go towards various environmental groups). ??Our success, I hope, is to act like a tipping point for a lot of movements that are already happening,? says Wall, who approached Gore with the idea after seeing his film, An Inconvenient Truth. ??I told Al, ??Two million people have seen this movie ?? two billion people will watch this event. We??ll give you the microphone. Let??s make a change here.???
-- Evan Serpick
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Or, I'd like to see it at MPP. (on a weekend of course, Seth. ;) ) Hell, I might even look into volunteering...It'll be like Earth Day 1995 all over again! ;)
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Rock stars trying to look like they care about something other than their egos. When will this narcissistic foolishness stop?
It reminds me of that movie, idiocracy.
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I loved that movie.
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The world is getting dumber before your eyes. There??s a reason for this, and it has very little to do with our educational system: Simply put, the dumb ones have more babies. There are exceptions??you might be one of them, so don??t freak the fuck out on me??but that??s the general rule. As the world grows dumber, the smart and discerning will become even less willing to plop their frail offspring into this squalling, dysgenic soup bowl. And things will get worse.
The film??s (http://www.slate.com/id/2157421/) opening sequence is a split-screen comparison of a high-IQ yuppie couple contrasted against a trailer-park ??tard named Clevon. The yuppies, sometimes with good reason, consistently hesitate to reproduce, while Clevon??s fertile scrotum effortlessly yields multiple progeny. As the male yuppie finally succumbs to a heart attack while masturbating to produce sperm for artificial insemination??effectively killing his bloodline??Clevon survives a jet-ski injury to his testicles and continues to impregnate multiple dimwitted females. The screen rapidly becomes overpopulated with a flow chart of Clevon??s descendants. As we watched this segment about the stupid??s birth rate running roughshod over that of the intelligent, my brother said, ??What??s scary about this is it??s so true.?
It??s true??inarguably??but nearly impossible to mention without facing the wrath of censorious egalitarian fascists everywhere. These days, it is nearly a crime??and it may be a literal criminal offense in the near future??to imply that intelligence is hereditary and that society??s interests might best be served if stupid people took a chill pill on the breedin??.
Liberals seem sensitive to everything except what??s truly important. Back in the early 1970s, population control used to be a solid plank in the liberal platform until it was deemed culturally insensitive to imply that many women should keep their frickin' legs shut. Now there are nearly TWICE as many people on Earth as there were then??and most of them seem highly stupid??but the ??sensitive? lefty cowards are too afraid to make a peep about it. Perhaps because of this, Idiocracy was released with almost zero publicity.
Things don??t magically become untrue simply because they hurt your feelings. The passage of time does not always bring progress. People ARE getting dumber. A middle finger and the word ??whatever? are the closest to articulation that most folks can muster. We??re already halfway to the world depicted in Idiocracy. Sterilization is probably too harsh and inhumane, but after all, the stupid are stupid. There has to be some way we can trick them into using birth control.
This is a fundamental, axiomatic belief held by a shockingly large portion of the population, I'm afraid. Such people will tell you-- in all seriousness-- that intelligence can't be hereditary, because that would be racist. The more consistent among their lot will deny all evidence they find intolerable (the late S. J. Gould) or will demonstrate incredible ingenuity in the fabrication of the most ponderous alternative hypotheses in order to evade the obvious conclusions (Jared Diamond)...
I know a couple of college-educated types who, when faced with facts they consider immoral, simply retreat into a sort of solipsism. That is the "New Age," feel-good approach to Transcendent Wisdom: if you don't like it, simply deny all of reality outright! "Everything is subjective" they'll tell you. They "construct" their own "realities," they'll tell you. "What's real to you isn't what's real to me," they'll tell you. And they've read a bunch of really stupid books which promote the really stupid notion that quantum physics somehow supports this head-up-your-ass worldview... I no longer argue with these people.
What all this goes to show is that the demonstrably intelligent (or, at least, the educated) can be amazingly stupid. The authors of The Bell Curve were at pains to sound the alarm: what's happening at the high end is just as dangerous as what's happening at the low end. The "cognitive elite" live their lives so protected from reality, their most dire concern is not unemployment or housing or foreign relations or the federal budget or even their beloved social inequities... it's Global Warming. They are (literally) living in Cloud-Cuckoo Land. These Leaders of Civilisation are isolated so incestuously in their ideologies and experience-- and so defensively narcissistic in their collective moral self-righteousness-- that any public mention of the word "eugenics" would cause them to fill auditoriums across the nation so they could line up to blubber and sob into microphones.
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How much would admission be if it were at MPP?
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What is the aggregate carbon footprint created by thousands of people driving their air-conditioned cars to Columbia?
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dupek, how did i know you were into eugenics?!?
viva la nineteenth century!
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Why has no one questioned the obvious: A concert for global warming? I'm not exactly making only left turns, but this mention is getting trite already. Now a concert with the infamous internet founder at the helm. Apparently I missed the evidence that shows how much "good" our hybrid cars will bring this fast sinking ship. I have no problem with social responsibility, but I'm not sure Fall Out Boy is going to do any more than give certain politicians warm fuzzies.
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"dupek, how did i know you were into eugenics?!?"
It's true, if by 'eugenics' you mean I can see that your personal eugeneic destiny is to be one of those very prolific 21st century breeders as mentioned in the movie Idiocracy?
You've got me pegged there sport.
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i wonder how many people will be polluting the air by smoking pot at this thing.
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Will there also be sandals, beads, didgeridoos, incense, peace signs, dreadlocks, tie die, whole grain granola, herb tea, bean sprouts, free love, B.O., & drum circles?
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tipper gore will have a side stage spouting off that if you play the music being heard from the main stage backwards, you will get a subscription to Mother Earth News and start growing your own food.
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Global warming, also known as Climate Change, is a theory by a bunch of tree-hugging liberal hippies that states unless we go back and live in caves, the polar ice caps will melt and life as we know it will cease to exist. Global warming is based on psuedoscience by a bunch of liberal crackpots who have a political agenda. It is almost exclusively believed by left wing bleeding-heart Democrats who are influenced by rich environmental lobby groups and opposed to the economy and anyone with a job. One of these bleeding heart socialist Democrats, Al Gore, has made a propaganda video regarding global warming entitled An Inconvenient Truth which uses heartless fear-mongering in an attempt to get people to consume less and sabotage the American economy, culminating in the terrorists winning. Republicans would never use this type of fear mongering for political gain. These are the same tree hugging hippies that said that we were plunging into an ice age back in the 70s and 80s.
The active hurricane season of 2005 has been cited by radical communists as incontrovertible confirmation of global warming. Conservatives have fought back, though, citing the fact that 2006 had fewer hurricanes than 2005, therefore "global warming" is not occurring. If global warming were true, conservatives say, the number of storms would not decrease. In fact, The Ward Ice Shelf incident was proven to have occurred in one of two ways; either it was broken up because of a terrorist attack or the satellite image taken by scientists was doctored and no break up actually occurred. Religious people say that global warming is caused by Man not God. It is a sign of end times and there is nothing we can do about it. In recent years, atheists believe we should all be ignorant and go dig a hole and put our heads inside. It is also beleived that the increase in atheists is a cause.
If you stop and think about it global warming is a good thing. The oceans would rise so it would be eaiser to go to the beach,if the tops of Mountians melt then the whole family can climb Mt. Everest. Sure some people might drown but if it's not you then what do you care. If you sell summer clothes than you will make a lot more money, and you will never have to plow your drive way again. GLOBAL WARMING IS TRULY FTW!!!
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hahaha, dupek that's hillarious. what's the source on that? linkage please!
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What, do you doubt that this wonderful stuff is not my original verse?
http://uncyclopedia.org/wiki/Global_warming (http://uncyclopedia.org/wiki/Global_warming)
You're not gonna call me a racist/nazi too, are you? It's quite the latest rage.
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see? i was right to doubt that this wonderful stuff was not your original verse. you're a nut-job, but not that big a nut-job... your style is a little more subtle :)
as for accusations, i'm usually last to the party when it comes to picking up on trends.
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I kinda liked how race didn't play a big role in Idiocracy. The film takes it for granted that the same "only the dumb reproduce in large numbers" rule applies to all ethnicities. Certain ethnic/racial groups may have more dumb members than others.
Nature doesn't have a vested interest in keeping smart people around. But it doesn't have a particular interest in killing them off, either. Smarts might not be a guarantee of success, but neither is fecundity. And stupidity, in almost any conceivable real-world scenario, is a liability. Stupid people will never overwhelm the smart ones. The whole system is self-correcting, without involving bullshit like God or Hope or abstract ideas like "Progress."
I don't know the best way to illustrate my argument. Maybe I'll start at the end, in a worst-case scenario.
Picture no smart people at all. Let's say a disease, brought by germy, preschool-age aliens, kills EVERY human with an IQ higher than 30. Picture a world purely populated with severely retarded folks.
That scenario has already happened, in prehistory. Everyone was a dumb monkey, throwing shit and screeching. Every time a smarter ape baby got squoozed out, on average it survived long enough to squooze out more ape babies than its dumber pals. It outmaneuvered predators, and secured more food by manipulating its pals, and thought twice before sampling those bright red berries.
Get past a certain lower threshold and intelligence will rebound. It's an advantage in almost every significant way, although perhaps there's an upper limit beyond which intelligence makes society top-heavy and unstable. Perhaps we're entering that period now, fucking with plague germs and radiation.
People are stupid now because they can be. If the balance ever tips too far in their favor, smart people will rebound. And evidence is consistent on the side of them ALWAYS having been this stupid. They weren't holding spelling bees at the Roman Coliseum. A bunch of proto-Italian fuckwits watching exotic animals eat people isn't any smarter than Idiocracy's "Ow! My Balls!" show or whatever show Paris Hilton is agreeing to right now.
If one smart group group left the dumber members behind, they'd exploit the dumb ones, inevitably. There'd be two opposing forces working against this situation, though. The smart ones would reduce the pressure to get smart. They'd become lax, and tell themselves stories of their innate superiority. They'd accomodate their less intelligent children, because in the end, it's a numbers game, and Nature would never breed out the HAVE/KEEP MORE KIDS! imperative. So the smart group would slip.
Meanwhile, the dumb ones would be selecting upwards, for the same reasons I listed above, in the case of our primitive ancestors. It would be bloody and brutal and horrible, but infighting and stress would inevitably breed for smarts.
If the two groups could stay separate long enough to exaggerate their downward and upward trends, you'd get something that the Neanderthal species must have encountered when they first encountered Homo Sapiens. The smart ones won on that occasion.
If a disease wiped out all dumb people, there'd be as much or MORE instability. You get a lot of ambitious smartypants, each thinking he knew better than that other smartypants. Dumb people make for nasty wars, but smart people make for nastier ones. Dumb people end up fighting and then backing off, like most animals after they've established social hierarchy or breeding rights. Smart people fight to kill, understanding that wiping out your opponent's genes is more practical than having to sort shit out every mating season.
Figuratively speaking, Nature just likes conflict. It doesn't give a shit who's fighting, or why. It just likes the fighting. As far as Nature is concerned, fighting works like a charm to sort things out and spread life.
Nature also breeds in things like cooperation and all that chick shit, too. It doesn't care if an animal has just slaughtered its opponent, or simply pointed out its opponent's shoelaces were untied and then skipped town. As long as it makes it home to make sweet love to its mate, Nature's got nothing against it.
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