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=> GENERAL DISCUSSION => Topic started by: Barcelona on July 12, 2003, 05:47:00 pm
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Not sure if this has already been discussed, but I just read that Grandaddy might be playing at the 9:30 on October 2. I hope it is more than just a rumor.
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That would be great. They're playing in Boston and Philadelphia in early August, if you're able to travel. "Sumday" has been in frequent rotation over the past couple of months for me.
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that would be a good one two....grandaddy on the 2nd and Built to Spill on the 3rd and 4th
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The Super Furry Animals are supposedly the tour openers. Ticketmaster already has a couple shows up.
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By the way, the more I listen to Sumday, the more I like it.
For disappointing albums after some amazing previous work, I still think the latest album by the Flaming Lips is THE disappointment of 2002-2003.
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Yoshimi wasn't THAT bad. Fight Test Ep on the other hand...... After listening to Sumday for a month I finally put in Sophtware Slump this weekend and had a whole new appreciation. Not that I dislike Sumday, but Sophtware has a completely different affect on me.
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ok, yoshimi was that bad (except for 2 songs).
btw, according to the grandaddy pre-sale website listing, october 2 is the correct date for the 930 show, and tickets are on there for $15 plus $4 service charge a ticket.
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i should also add that peter frampton is scheduled to play at lisner that night as well. what a choice, eh? :)
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Originally posted by Venerable Bede:
ok, yoshimi was that bad (except for 2 songs).
bollocks. Fight Test is pretty good too.
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For those who need the link: http://grandaddy.musictoday.com/ (http://grandaddy.musictoday.com/)
The pre-sale ends July 18.
Originally posted by Venerable Bede:
btw, according to the grandaddy pre-sale website listing, october 2 is the correct date for the 930 show, and tickets are on there for $15 plus $4 service charge a ticket.
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Super Furry Animals are opening for them, wow!
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Originally posted by starcrash:
Super Furry Animals are opening for them, wow!
Well at least they have the lineup the right way around. I'm so damn tired of Gdaddy opening for every band under the sun. Plus SFA have been rocketing downhill with each album after Guerilla.
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Originally posted by mjnova:
Well at least they have the lineup the right way around. I'm so damn tired of Gdaddy opening for every band under the sun. Plus SFA have been rocketing downhill with each album after Guerilla.
you really are the anti me arent you mjnova? I hope we never meet.
btw are you:
M J NOVA
or
Minova
?
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Originally posted by the scientist:
Originally posted by mjnova:
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btw are you:
M J NOVA
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Those being my initials. It was just the first email address I could get with hotmail, and out of further lazyness became my screen name on this and other boards so I had less to remember. If i had more time I would have come up with something better.
And for the record I still love Grandaddy and SFA, both the now albums are slooooowly growing on me, and aren't without some good songs. I just feel they're both off their game right now.
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anyone catch grdadi on Letterman?
I dug the synth stuff they did live.
fat drummer.
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Originally posted by chknfngrs:
anyone catch grdadi on Letterman?
They were pretty good on Letterman, but my girlfriend says she refuses to listen to anyone that wears a hat like that.
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mesh hats are so 1992
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Originally posted by ggw:
They were pretty good on Letterman, but my girlfriend says she refuses to listen to anyone that wears a hat like that.
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She prefers "men without hats"? :eek:
(mank now skipping round his office chanting "it's a safety dance, it's a safety dance")
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Originally posted by mankie:
(mank now skipping round his office chanting "it's a safety dance, it's a safety dance")
Apparently they have a camera in your office:
http://www.boldlygoingnowhere.net/safetyfirst.WMV (http://www.boldlygoingnowhere.net/safetyfirst.WMV)
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Originally posted by ggw:
Originally posted by chknfngrs:
anyone catch grdadi on Letterman?
They were pretty good on Letterman, but my girlfriend says she refuses to listen to anyone that wears a hat like that. [/b]
http://talkscape.grandaddylandscape.com/cgi-bin/WebObjects/BBoard.woa/2/wa/loadTopic?messageId=7041&wosid=5WbYh6mjtNQM7uwtQrLb30 (http://talkscape.grandaddylandscape.com/cgi-bin/WebObjects/BBoard.woa/2/wa/loadTopic?messageId=7041&wosid=5WbYh6mjtNQM7uwtQrLb30)
In case anyone is interested in seeing them on Letterman.
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Originally posted by chknfngrs:
mesh hats are so 1992
Yeah but Gdaddy have been dirty truckers since the get go. They didn't change their style, everyone just caught up with them.
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Yeah but Grandaddy didn't put out an album until 1996. Sounds like they jumped on the dirty trucker bandwagon of 1992 to me and never got off.
Originally posted by mjnova:
Originally posted by chknfngrs:
mesh hats are so 1992
Yeah but Gdaddy have been dirty truckers since the get go. They didn't change their style, everyone just caught up with them. [/b]
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Originally posted by starcrash:
Super Furry Animals are opening for them, wow!
Well, I can only say I hope they're a better opening act then they were as a headliner last time they were at the 9:30.
I love SFA and enjoyed the shows they did at the Black Cat but the 9:30 show was a major disappointment with way too much focus on the video backdrops.
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Does anybody know how close we are to a sold out show?
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I'd like to know how close the show is to being sold out as well - I held off on buying a ticket until I was sure I could go but don't want to be dissapointed at the door
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I've heard that SFA are donning furry animal suits now. The reviews I've heard were mixed. Hard to say with them. They are capable of so much but don't always deliver.
Now Grandaddy, I don't really care about. They are okay but every song sounds the same to me which gives me an over-all dull yawn.
With all that said, I may still go to the show. Haven't decided yet. Obviously, I too would like to know about the ticket situation.
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I'll be at the show......gotta get me some "super furry"......and i don't mind grandaddy either!
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it's over half-sold now. might be some tix available at the door, but no guarantees.
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I think the two shows in NYC (at least the one on Friday the 3rd was already sold out last week and they said that the Saturday one was close to be sold out) are sold out now. Maybe the DC show will end up being pretty packed.
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Originally posted by Barcelona:
I think the two shows in NYC (at least the one on Friday the 3rd was already sold out last week and they said that the Saturday one was close to be sold out) are sold out now. Maybe the DC show will end up being pretty packed.
I've learned that you can't always go by the NYC shows, which often sell out fast even when ours have plenty of tickets left. But from what Twangirl said, it sounds like it will sell out by some point but maybe not until the night of.
Thanks Twangirl! ;)
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it's over half-sold now. might be some tix available at the door, but no guarantees
Better get my ticket then. I was hoping to get tickets of the show on the night of, to avoid those damn service fees, but I really want to catch the Super Furries. Grandaddy, I'm not too familiar with.. but I saw one of their videos a couple of nights ago and it was pretty good.. so why not. :cool:
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For disappointing albums after some amazing previous work, I still think the latest album by the Flaming Lips is THE disappointment of 2002-2003.
(PR spits out his soda in shock) :cool:
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so who all is going to night...
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I should be there.
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I'm going too! :cool:
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I will be there tonight and I'll see them again at Irving Plaza in NYC on Saturday.
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I will be going, along with Poorlulu, and Jadetree. The later of which is refusing to read the board, so calls up people to ask what is going on here.
So I am not quite sure if I am talking behind his back now, or not.
GGW, I have that CD of the Dandy Warhols from Sparx for you....... If you can remind me later about it...... Is there anything else you want bringing?
Oh and Rhett sent me an email which included the following, "We've made a pact with each other to no longer read the chatboard as of my last post"
I am sorry they are gone. And I am sorry if you all think I am a jerk.
Sorry.
Oh and lets please not drag it all up again.
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would like to, but got a 7:30 am flight out of dulles tomorrow (which means i have to leave by 6), so cleaning and packing tonight for me. heading to chicago to see those cubbies.
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Originally posted by The Pariah:
GGW, I have that CD of the Dandy Warhols from Sparx for you....... If you can remind me later about it...... Is there anything else you want bringing?
Not that I can think of.
Originally posted by The Pariah:
Oh and Rhett sent me an email which included the following, "We've made a pact with each other to no longer read the chatboard as of my last post"
I am sorry they are gone. And I am sorry if you all think I am a jerk.
Sorry.
Oh and lets please not drag it all up again.
I think you should be canonized. That's better than St. Patrick ridding Ireland of snakes.
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Originally posted by The Pariah:
I am sorry if you all think I am a jerk.
jerk..........
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Originally posted by The Pariah:
...Jadetree. The later of which is refusing to read the board
Why is Jadetree not reading the board?
My goodness, didn't know folks were getting so upset. But maybe a break sometimes is helpful.
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Originally posted by The Pariah:
I will be going, along with Poorlulu, and Jadetree. The later of which is refusing to read the board, so calls up people to ask what is going on here.
So I am not quite sure if I am talking behind his back now, or not.
GGW, I have that CD of the Dandy Warhols from Sparx for you....... If you can remind me later about it...... Is there anything else you want bringing?
Oh and Rhett sent me an email which included the following, "We've made a pact with each other to no longer read the chatboard as of my last post"
I am sorry they are gone. And I am sorry if you all think I am a jerk.
Sorry.
Oh and lets please not drag it all up again.
Sorry to hear it.Tell Jadetree to get his butt back here!!It's water under the bridge at this point,right?I wondered what happened to that thread,it must've gotten even uglier.
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I know, I don't even remember Jadetree being involved.
But having thought about it, I shouldn't even have asked -- don't want to bring up any negative issues for those of us still reading and posting.
It's a shame, though.
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Hey Bubba/Pariah/Scientist/Anton/Markie --
Could you tell Jadetree/Ginger/Bob Pollard that I've got that Superdrag show for him. Ask him if he could make a copy of the new Decemberists for me.
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you can add matthewsweet to that list...
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Originally posted by ggwâ?¢:
Jadetree/Ginger/Bob Pollard
You forgot matthewsweet, I just came back to ask on the FAQ if I could buy Recher tickets for GBV at 9:30 box office, and I did not stop reading because I was upset or anything, I was not at all, I just thought the whole thing was really bizarre and decided not to read anymore. I will bring the cd GGW.
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GGW, do you have the old decemberists? I prefer that to the new one.......
And YAY! Jadetree is back. YAY!
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Originally posted by The Pariah:
GGW, do you have the old decemberists? I prefer that to the new one.......
I do (if you are referring to Castaways and Cutouts). I was just listening to it this morning, which is why I thought of it.
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The coolest thing about this post is that I can keep it all clear! I was good on Markie up to Pariah. And I didn't get jadetree as Pollard at all!
Man, I need to learn the member # of those two guys.
Originally posted by ggwâ?¢:
Hey Bubba/Pariah/Scientist/Anton/Markie --
Could you tell Jadetree/Ginger/Bob Pollard that I've got that Superdrag show for him. Ask him if he could make a copy of the new Decemberists for me.
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Originally posted by ggwâ?¢:
I do (if you are referring to Castaways and Cutouts). I was just listening to it this morning, which is why I thought of it.
Yes, Its really good. The new one isnt so good. There is no July july style pop to lift it......
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Does anybody know Home? How do they sound like?
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Originally posted by Barcelona:
Does anybody know Home? How do they sound like?
If you're looking for some awesome background music to a post- girlfriend pot- smoking session, you've found it.
http://pitchforkmedia.com/record-reviews/h/home/13-netherregions.shtml (http://pitchforkmedia.com/record-reviews/h/home/13-netherregions.shtml)
http://www.pitchforkmedia.com/record-reviews/h/home/xiv.shtml (http://www.pitchforkmedia.com/record-reviews/h/home/xiv.shtml)
http://www.arenarockrecordingco.com/home/index.asp (http://www.arenarockrecordingco.com/home/index.asp)
perhaps?
Home are lo-fi pioneers who are happy to leave that rubric behind. Think Built to Spill performing Dark Side of the Moon at the pyramids on millennium eve. (Who writes this stuff, anyway?)
http://www.jetsetrecords.com/bands/home/bio.asp (http://www.jetsetrecords.com/bands/home/bio.asp)
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The first sentence is fantastic! The rest is absolute garbage. Why is that style of reviewing popular?
Originally posted by ggwâ?¢:
Home are lo-fi pioneers who are happy to leave that rubric behind. Think Built to Spill performing Dark Side of the Moon at the pyramids on millennium eve.
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Originally posted by ggwâ?¢:
Originally posted by Barcelona:
[qb] Home are lo-fi pioneers who are happy to leave that rubric behind. Think Built to Spill performing Dark Side of the Moon at the pyramids on millennium eve. (Who writes this stuff, anyway?)
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That sounds like a NIGHTMARE to me. But that's just me, I'm very picky about my lo-fi.
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hey, anyone think this show's really gonna sell out? i can't get tickets.com to load and i'm debating whether to use ticketmaster, tho i'd really hate to.
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Originally posted by broadkat:
hey, anyone think this show's really gonna sell out? i can't get tickets.com to load and i'm debating whether to use ticketmaster, tho i'd really hate to.
Don't waste your time with Ticketbastards. They don't sell tickets for the 9:30 Club. It may just sell out so I'd get there early if you can. If all else fails, have back up plans or be prepared for an early night.
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Originally posted by SPARX:
Originally posted by The Pariah:
I will be going, along with Poorlulu, and Jadetree. The later of which is refusing to read the board, so calls up people to ask what is going on here.
So I am not quite sure if I am talking behind his back now, or not.
GGW, I have that CD of the Dandy Warhols from Sparx for you....... If you can remind me later about it...... Is there anything else you want bringing?
Oh and Rhett sent me an email which included the following, "We've made a pact with each other to no longer read the chatboard as of my last post"
I am sorry they are gone. And I am sorry if you all think I am a jerk.
Sorry.
Oh and lets please not drag it all up again.
Sorry to hear it.Tell Jadetree to get his butt back here!!It's water under the bridge at this point,right?I wondered what happened to that thread,it must've gotten even uglier. [/b]
What happened? What did I miss? A huge bust-up and I wasn't invited? DAMN YOU, DAMN YOU ALL! :)
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Grandaddy on Conan Friday night.
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Just got back to Baltimore from the show.. And it was outstanding. All bands were good true and through. The Super Furries rawked! They played a superb set.
Night opener, Home, was a solid band. I'm not familiar with their catalogue, so can't talk specifics, but I strongly liked a couple of songs in their set. Can't say much about them. They made me think of Wilco, which isn't bad in my book. I wouldn't describe them as lo-fi, as someone posted above. Apparently, they've been around for a long while, as the guitarist made a reference of them playing at the 'old' 9:30 Club.
The Furries just put a great show, an excellent headlining set. I first saw the Furries at the new Ottobar here in Baltimore over a year ago. They were touring in support of Rings Around The World at the time. The venue was very small, but they played their asses off nonetheless. Tonight at the 9:30, they performed even better and to a larger crowd. This is a band that deserves more exposure here in the States, and I hope their fan base grows. With sets like the one they performed tonight, their name will grow. New exciting highlight tracks from their latest record Phantom Power, such as the all-out fun 'Golden Retriever' and the hard-rocking 'Out Of Control', were mixed in with the best tracks from 'Rings Around The World'. It was a pleasure hearing 'Juxtapose With You', 'Receptacle For The Respectable', and 'Run, Christian, Run'. 'Receptable..' was particularly amazing. They closed the set with their no-nonsense rocker, 'The Man Don't Give A Fuck'. They played most of that song, walked offstage as one of the members tweaked it, then returned onstage donning furry suits (as seen on the 'Golden Retriever' video). Just a great set--I'm taken by the Furries range in sound. Many of their songs metamorphose into surprisingly different tunes halfway through.. and they work. The Furries can go from rock band, to soul act, to techno-dance act, all in the course of one song and make it all stick together and work.
Grandaddy also played well... though I must confess I'm not familiar with their catalogue and wasn't particularly feeling their vibe. I'm only familiar with two songs of theirs. I've read Grandaddy fittingly described as 'Neil Young meets Aphex Twin' and that's a very fitting description and not a bad assestment of their sound. I do have a problem with them. The problem is their sound and mood is about the same in every song, and the repetitivenes is quite noticeable. My friend commented to me that he found them repetitive after a few songs. I matter-of-factly agreed. I do give them kudos for their choice of rear projection material: the video for the second song in their set, 'Yeah Is What We Had', was a very on-the-mark and saddening video about the beginning and end of a relationship. The video moves backwards, starting with the bitter end of the relationship and ending with the happy chance encounter of the couple while hailing a taxi. My friend and me both liked the song and video. A sad yet truthful video--we've all been there in that situation; me specially very recently. On a not-sad note, I liked the footage they showed of that one cat smacking the s hit out of that dog; that was one kickass cat. Is Grandaddy obsessed with cats or what? Although I found Grandaddy to be repetitive, I still found them partly enjoyable, and stuck around enough to hear my favorite song (out of the two songs I was familiar with..hehe), 'The Crystal Lake', which was a hit about three years ago.
So in general, a great show tonight at the 9:30. I'm so there.. when the Super Furry Animals again roll back through town. :cool:
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I think PR_GMR pretty much hit it. I however was very familiar with GD setlist, for I've been too lazy to take sumday out of the car player and it's been in there for weeks. But even with familiarity, I agee. The "farm boy" image that I was picking up isn't exactly what I go for in rock and roll. SFA exceeded my expectations, but I'm not huge on their sound. I go for GD's sound more (electronics, etc.), but wasn't totally impressed with the staging. So I rate them as equals on this night and give the night as a whole high marks.
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I like SFA but most of there stuff is better heard on one's stereo at home... I wish they wouldn't rely so music on the backing tracks and video on stage, because it takes the sponteniety out of the performance. Their set really picked up steam when they cranked up the guitars towards the end. Maybe next time they'll drop the vids and rock out.
I was tired and Grandaddy bored me so I bailed.
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I've seen the Super Furries over 10x now, and last night was the worst I've seen them (excluding the Yeti costumes and rock star poses :) I say that cause I wouldn't want anyone to judge SFA only by last night's gig, which was good, don't get me wrong, but not brilliant. They only played from their past two albums, while
they have so many brilliant songs off earlier albums,and Gruff's guitar was fucked for most of the set. That said, they were still FAR more interesting to watch than Grandaddy. I love Grandaddy albums and music but god their live set is a total snooze-fest.
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What about "The Gold Rush" between SFA and Grandaddy? That was a brilliant idea, one of the best movies ever.
I liked both bands a lot. I was going there to see Grandaddy, but was really impressed with Super Furry Animals. Got there too late to see Home.
I'll see both of them tomorrow in NYC. Worth the trip.
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It's interesting that everyone had different reactions.
I thought SFA were good, but not great. They got better as the set went on. No real complaints, but I wasn't blown away.
I liked Grandaddy. I'm not terribly familiar with them other than the little bit that's been played on WOXY and KEXP in the last couple of years. But I enjoyed their set. And they seemed like unpretentious, congenial guys just having fun playing in a band.
The films were alternately good complements to the music or somewhat distracting. and I guess the band really likes cats....
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I had a lot of fun at the show last night...neither band knocked my socks off, but I thought they were both solid performances. Though I have to admit I enjoyed watching Grandaddy simply for the eye candy...their drummer is adorable, though he smokes way too much. But hey, I've got pretty bizarre tastes in everything. I know I should probably have my eyes checked, but WOOF. :) Have to say that I'm really looking forward to Supergrass, Travis, and Belle and Sebastian. The great thing about last night was the ticket price...$15 for 2 bands that I've been meaning to check out for quite a while, and nice visuals to boot. It was nice to see 2 bands put together some interesting stuff instead of just some of the usual lighting. Not that a band needs to have visuals to make it a good show, but sometimes it's nice to see. I enjoyed the Charlie Chaplin movie between bands too.
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sfa at the ottobar was an amazing in part because of the surround sound presentation...
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Last night was the most people I have seen at a show for an opening band! That's a compliment to the band. SFA was great, but left right after. I thought it was too crowded, and I had seen what I'd come to see.
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I was really disappointed with SFA. It seems like it's become The Gruff Show, whereas previous shows, like the Black Cat one, seemed much more of a band affair. Maybe it's just me. And as someone pointed out, have they forgotten about Fuzzy Logic, Radiator and Guerrilla? The beauty of a band like U2 is that they acknowledge all of their fans and play material from the first album to the newest. And I thought the version of The Man Don't Give A was pretty weak, though the video they showed was pretty groovy.
Grandaddy was good and they sounded great, but I think they're a better studio band than live one. If it weren't for the cool visuals, that would've been a pretty boring show. And I didn't like how most of the songs ended by the band suddenly slowing down and then stopping. What's wrong with jamming a little or continuing to play the medly and building and building and building? Oh yeah, it would've screwed up the videos, which isn't my idea of rock'n'roll.
Worth fifteen bucks, and a good time overall, but I'm spoiled from such great shows as Black Rebel, where it seemed the songs built to a climax, and then sometimes went on a little further.
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One of the better shows in a long time.
I was there for Grandaddy but Super Furries were pretty good. The one song where they played with the flames behind them on the video, zzzzz.... the wookie costumes.... kinda dumb but with a name like super furry animals, why not.
totally agree with the positive review of the grandaddy video for yeah is what we had.... sad, sad, sad....
Excellent show, both bands, really.
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Unfortunately, i missed most of Super Furry Animals. Did they play "Fire in My Heart"? (can you tell i'm a girl by that question? ;) The few songs i did see were really impressive. I sorta thought that whole like "all govts are liars and bastards" or whatever thing a little heavy handed. It would have worked much better if they just left it to that that stellar loop of old dictator guys and german black and whites who actually looked like they were singing along -- i've never seen anything like that and you couldn't even see where they were looping most of the time! and the bigfoot costumes were f-ing hilarious.
But Grandaddy were the real treat for me. I though it was so sweet how the lead singer guy was all honored by the guys yelling out songs. It really makes a fan feel appreciated. And they played some good choices from sophtware slump. I bounced along to the whole thing.
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NY Times review of the NY show:
POP REVIEW | GRANDADDY; SUPER FURRY ANIMALS
Tales of Decline With Opulence and Humor
By JON PARELES
Published: October 8, 2003
here's no clear explanation why majestically bemused rock often arrives with goofy animal costumes in tow. It's not just the Flaming Lips, whose touring show features dancers dressed as rabbits. At Irving Plaza on Friday night, Grandaddy, from Modesto, Calif., performed with videos projected behind the band that showed, among other things, a bouncy human-sized bee.
The members of the Welsh band Super Furry Animals, sharing the bill, disappeared backstage during their last song to reappear dressed in hairy suits for a final reprise.
Maybe the costumes are an attempt to dodge rock's lingering postpunk distrust of grandeur, as if no one who envisioned his songs with a woolly chorus line could be accused of taking the music too seriously. That ambivalence reaches into the music, too.
Grandaddy's songs are stately anthems orchestrated with full late-psychedelic pomp: fuzz-toned guitar strumming, rippling keyboards (including what sounded like a Mellotron), brawny drumbeats. Grandaddy's songwriter and singer, Jason Lytle, is a fan of the richly orchestrated late-1960's Beach Boys and Buffalo Springfield. With each Grandaddy album since the group started in 1992, its music has grown more opulent.
But Mr. Lytle's high, plaintive voice keeps the songs fragile and uncertain. Despite the solidity of the music, he sounds adrift. In songs from Grandaddy's most recent album, "Sumday" (V2), he looks around to see trusted things falling apart and looks ahead only to envision further decline. "I feel so far away from home, always so far away," he sang in "El Caminos in the West," between poppy "doo-doo-doo" choruses. "We're all collapsed and futureless." The comedy on the video screen behind the band was belied by the songs.
Super Furry Animals are also Beach Boys fans, that group's music being among the many styles they dip into. Their set also touched on country, punk noise, blipping electronic dance music, blues-rock and 1970's soul.
What keeps the Super Furry Animals from sounding like an anthology is Gruff Rhys's smoky lead vocals. Their blithely eclectic music often holds glum tidings, with even songs about love having a pessimistic streak. "Subtle as a nail bomb in the head, you came to me in peace and left me in pieces," Gruff Rhys sang to a swaying Beach Boys-flavored tune, "Receptacle for the Respectable."
The band's current album, "Phantom Power" (XL/Beggars Group), contemplates the world after Sept. 11. In a somber ballad, "The Piccolo Snare," Gruff Rhys sang, "As brother fights brother, wrapped up in tarnished flags/Banners and body bags, surrender!" The set moved from wistfulness to disgust and fury. For the final song, as the video screen showed ugly demagogues, Gruff Rhys sang about power-mad rulers and citizens "left to bleed whilst vultures glide." Fuzzy suits didn't defuse the music's anger.