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=> GENERAL DISCUSSION => Topic started by: on October 12, 2005, 10:07:00 am
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Girls Gone Wild: Aruba (http://trump.uselessjunk.org/videos/natalee_halloway_lost_tape.wmv)
Warning: NOT SAFE FOR WORK
May the source (http://planetsuzy.com/modules.php?name=News&file=article&sid=3801%20newwindow) be with you.
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I didn't look at this...and I wouldn't even w/o your warning. Yet, why? Why post stuff like this?
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because people like me looked at it.
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How come the media never mentioned that she was fond of blowing strangers? It's a detail that should be known, don't you think..?
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Discuss all you want if it makes you feel better and receive attention. I'm outta this thread.
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Originally posted by eltee:
Discuss all you want if it makes you feel better and receive attention. I'm outta this thread.
Before you leave, will you give me a Natalie?
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Wow. Yeah, count me as one of the many heading out of this forum.
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I thought you already left?
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Originally posted by eltee:
Wow. Yeah, count me as one of the many heading out of this forum.
get a grip please.
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an apology is in order here...
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Originally posted by Ellis D. Fleischbach:
Originally posted by eltee:
Discuss all you want if it makes you feel better and receive attention. I'm outta this thread.
Before you leave, will you give me a Natalie? [/b]
totally unnecessary!!!!
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i'm siding with eltee on this one, she didn't attack the orginial poster, just posed a query about the link. and was treated with a very sexist and uncalled for retort.
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Originally posted by kosmo vinyl:
i'm siding with eltee on this one, she didn't attack the orginial poster, just posed a query about the link. and was treated with a very sexist and uncalled for retort.
Consider the source of the comment, then take it with a pinch of salt.....I'm sure no offense was meant.
Who is Natalie Holloway anyway?
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even if no offense was to be taken, it was still not needed
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she is the women who went missing in Aruba...
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Originally posted by kosmo vinyl:
she is the women who went missing in Aruba...
Sorry, still non the wiser....a google search it is then.
BTW, why is the bloke as white as the driven snow but his knob is as dark as night?
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Originally posted by eltee:
Wow. Yeah, count me as one of the many heading out of this forum.
Don't let the forum door hit ya in the ass on the way to another web site.
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Originally posted by Rob_Gee:
Originally posted by eltee:
Wow. Yeah, count me as one of the many heading out of this forum.
Don't let the forum door hit ya in the ass on the way to another web site. [/b]
I'm just wondering who these 'many' are?
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I am happy for the "not at work" posting........my morbid curiouosity has the best of me..this isn't really her,though,is it??.....I will check it tonight....I just can't beleive this has not been unearthed..........
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nothing wrong with NSFW links as long as thier correctly identified... it's the personal attack that ensue which is the problem
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Where was there a personal attack? Please tell me, I need my entertainment fix for the day.
Originally posted by kosmo vinyl:
nothing wrong with NSFW links as long as thier correctly identified... it's the personal attack that ensue which is the problem
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I think that the person could have just left without saying anything. That was a minor personal attack if that.....In my opinion. If the person didn't like the link, just leave quietly and life goes on. Instead they had to let us know TWICE that he/she was leaving and not returning. If we didn't want to know the first time, what made them think we wanted to know a second time? We find Ellis D Fleischbach.....Not Guilty of personal attack charges. You are free to continue doing what you do.
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overturned by the Supreme Court
calling it an personal attack maybe a bit strong, but it was definitely taken in offence and still remains uncalled for.
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And to think... this whole controversial thread popped up without me...
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Originally posted by kosmo vinyl:
overturned by the Supreme Court
calling it an personal attack maybe a bit strong, but it was definitely taken in offence and still remains uncalled for.
Really? I read it as two attacks against Ellis before he said something funny. Perhaps you are one of those Supreme court justices effected by cronyism that has a secret agenda.
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Originally posted by kosmo vinyl:
calling it an personal attack maybe a bit strong
Sorry, K, you know I think you're king, but incorrect use of "an" there.... :D
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asking a question as why one posted something is an attack?
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Originally posted by eltee:
Wow. Yeah, count me as one of the many heading out of this forum.
three questions:
who are these "many"?
why are some people so thin-skinned on here?
why do people (read, bored middle america housewives) care about natalie holloway? who really gives a fuck?
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Originally posted by kosmo vinyl:
asking a question as why one posted something is an attack?
I didn't look at this...and I wouldn't even w/o your warning. Yet, why? Why post stuff like this?
YES.
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in all the boo hoo news reports about this chick i always felt that it was ridiculous. ppl who do dumb shit and shit happens to them u cant feel too sorry like theyre some innocent victim. if i walk into a lions den and one attacks me dont blame the lion. i especially think its BS that our FBI [our govt] who are so pathetic cant stop 9/11 hijackers even tho they have warning months prior is wasting their time in another country for one of our fuck-ups who brought this shit on themsleves out of ignorance. and dumb americans without a friggin brain all go "wahhh boo hoo" over it like dumbasses. yeah im reall sorry bad stuff happens but come on. millions of ppl on this horrid planet suffer over shit they dont bring on themselves and deserve far more attn than some spoiled little brat in aruba.
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so maybe the fact that el tee is acquaintance of mine clouded my judgement a tad on this one... regardless a overtly male locker room environment does exist here and people are voicing concerns.
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Originally posted by muschi:
in all the boo hoo news reports about this chick i always felt that it was ridiculous. ppl who do dumb shit and shit happens to them u cant feel too sorry like theyre some innocent victim. if i walk into a lions den and one attacks me dont blame the lion.
I haven't been following this story, but into exactly what "lion's den" did she walk?
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Originally posted by kosmo vinyl:
an apology is in order here...
El Tee come back, any kind of fool could see
There was something in everything about you
El Tee come back, you can blame it all on me
I was wrong, and I just can't live without you
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She left a dance club with some islanders (guys) and went drinking with them. If I'm not mistaken, she's underage. She was partying with them, they claim they left her on the beach.....alive She's been missing ever since.
the whole press/public obsession with missing blonde teenage girls is ridiculous. But then again, this is the culture where Nick and Jessica possibly splitting up makes the front page of cnn.com.
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Originally posted by ggwâ?¢:
Originally posted by muschi:
... if i walk into a lions den and one attacks me dont blame the lion.
I haven't been following this story, but into exactly what "lion's den" did she walk? [/b]
well first of all women are so often not using their brains [men too but men arent at the risk women so often are]. she's in a foriegn country covorting around w sleazebag clubbers. and obviously leaving the security of her group of friends she went to aruba with. u r not in the usa so mind your p's and q's. that's lions den--- and stop trying to make too much of the bad analogy u kno what im talking about.
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Originally posted by ggwâ?¢:
I haven't been following this story, but into exactly what "lion's den" did she walk?
She let herself be videotaped giving a blowjob to an stranger. Maybe in the oughts this sort of behavior is merely passe???
Anyway, sometime last century if you were caught videotaped blowing strangers there was a social stigma attached.
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1. the picture is so bad for all i know that could be my sister
2. is that chick trying to break his weiner off diving over it? what does she think she is, a flying Wilenda?
3. they really ought to use sunscreen
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From what I've read, the crime rate in Aruba makes the U.S. (and pretty much any other country) look like the Wild West. Prior to Holloway, there were something like three murders and ten rapes in the previous five years. And a bank robbery in 2003.
So, can we assume that any young woman that goes home with a guy she meets in a club (anywhere in the world) is walking into a lion's den and should expect to be raped and killed?
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Originally posted by Arlette:
She left a dance club with some islanders (guys) and went drinking with them. If I'm not mistaken, she's underage.
I didnt know you had to be of age to leave with some islanders.
Also, Aruba is not the U.S., I do believe the drinking age is 18.
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So am I a total old man now and think a girl her age shouldn't be making a trip like that with classmates? My senior trip was to OC, but I feel that was a little bit different.
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Originally posted by ggwâ?¢:
So, can we assume that any young woman that goes home with a guy she meets in a club (anywhere in the world) is walking into a lion's den and should expect to be raped and killed?
How do you know she was raped and killed? Were you in Aruba, or something?
For all we know she's still alive, and being held as a sex slave for Hugo Chavez.
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Originally posted by hostiledm:
So am I a total old man now and think a girl her age shouldn't be making a trip like that with classmates? My senior trip was to OC, but I feel that was a little bit different.
Didnt a couple get their heads chopped off a few years ago in OC, they had just met another couple at a bar there I believe.
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Originally posted by ggwâ?¢:
So, can we assume that any young woman that goes home with a guy she meets in a club (anywhere in the world) is walking into a lion's den and should expect to be raped and killed?
uh anytime u go off alone with someone u really don't know, YESSSS! pretty damned stupid thing to do.
hell, im a guy and met a chick i dont kno alone in her apt last night for a biz matter and was a lil worried and didnt drink the drink she poured me when i realized to myself "hey dummy she couldve put something in your drink"
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Originally posted by Ellis D. Fleischbach:
Originally posted by kosmo vinyl:
an apology is in order here...
El Tee come back, any kind of fool could see
There was something in everything about you
El Tee come back, you can blame it all on me
I was wrong, and I just can't live without you [/b]
;)
Kosmo your moderation is appreciated. Although I didn't take it as an attack, I did think the commentary / post was inappropriate.
(And, sheesh, so I replied to comments made immediately after mine - big deal.) <img src="http://www.aperfectworld.org/cartoons/panelsaw_small.png" alt=" - " />
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You "haven't really been following this story", but yet you're spending your time reading Aruban crime rate statistics?
What story have you been following? The Sidney Ponson story?
Originally posted by ggwâ?¢:
From what I've read, the crime rate in Aruba makes the U.S. (and pretty much any other country) look like the Wild West. Prior to Holloway, there were something like three murders and ten rapes in the previous five years. And a bank robbery in 2003.
So, can we assume that any young woman that goes home with a guy she meets in a club (anywhere in the world) is walking into a lion's den and should expect to be raped and killed?
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Originally posted by hostiledm:
So am I a total old man now and think a girl her age shouldn't be making a trip like that with classmates? My senior trip was to OC, but I feel that was a little bit different.
yeah the parents a bunch of dumbasses. i wouldnt let my 17 yo nephew go down the street w/o keeping tabs on him much less leave the country. my niece?? fughetaboutit shes not going anywhere til shes 35!
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Originally posted by Rob_Gee:
Didnt a couple get their heads chopped off a few years ago in OC, they had just met another couple at a bar there I believe.
The Navy Seal murders? (http://www.nbc4.com/news/2075368/detail.html)
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I think a senior trip should have some sort of educational value. Is there anything of cultural or historical significance in Aruba, or for that matter, Ocean City?
Originally posted by hostiledm:
So am I a total old man now and think a girl her age shouldn't be making a trip like that with classmates? My senior trip was to OC, but I feel that was a little bit different.
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Originally posted by muschi:
hell, im a guy and met a chick i dont kno alone in her apt last night for a biz matter and was a lil worried and didnt drink the drink she poured me when i realized to myself "hey dummy she couldve put something in your drink"
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i wouldnt let my 17 yo nephew go down the street w/o keeping tabs on him much less leave the country. my niece?? fughetaboutit shes not going anywhere til shes 35!
You're a freak. What a wonderfully sheltered existence you must lead.
One is far more likely to be the victim of crime in the U.S. than in another country.
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Originally posted by Xavier Bush, Power Forward: I think a senior trip should have some sort of educational value. Is there anything of cultural or historical significance in Ocean City?
Man, I guess you have never read all those cool T-shirts for sale on the Ocean City Boardwalk.
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Originally posted by ggwâ?¢:
You're a freak. What a wonderfully sheltered existence you must lead.
One is far more likely to be the victim of crime in the U.S. than in another country.
ok u got me, only your outlook on life and the world is valid. what was i thinking!
-freakazoid aka SupaFreak (im rick james biotech [intentional])
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Originally posted by Ellis D. Fleischbach:
Originally posted by Rob_Gee:
Didnt a couple get their heads chopped off a few years ago in OC, they had just met another couple at a bar there I believe.
The Navy Seal murders? (http://www.nbc4.com/news/2075368/detail.html) [/b]
Your good.
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Originally posted by ggwâ?¢:
Prior to Holloway, there were something like three murders and ten rapes in the previous five years. And a bank robbery in 2003.
And those incidents were most probably during spring break, when the place was full of doodles!!!! :p
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Originally posted by Roadbike Mankie:
And those incidents were most probably during spring break, when the place was full of doodles!!!! :p
Actually, I've read Aruba is the number one vacation destination for drunken Irish bastards, and they have a high number of spics and negros there already, so it's pretty damn likely crimes will be commited anyway.
(Hey, if he can use racial and ethnic slurs, why can't we all?)
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I believe he's already explained to us that he doesn't think doodle is a bad word. Can't remember which thread that was in.
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Originally posted by Rob_Gee:
I believe he's already explained to us that he doesn't think doodle is a bad word. Can't remember which thread that was in.
So if I don't think saying certain board members are whores is disparaging, it should be fine? Great.
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Originally posted by [username edited by p.c. moderator]:
So if I don't think saying certain board members are whores [/QB]
Are they?
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Originally posted by Rob_Gee:
Are they?
Apparently you haven't heard the story. Nevermind.
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If it was last week, I was on vacation and probably missed it.
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Originally posted by Rob_Gee:
If it was last week, I was on vacation and probably missed it.
This is distracting from my point: to put it another way, as long as KKK members don't think calling people certain names is offensive, does that make it a-ok? Shouldn't the recipient be the one to decide whether the word that is being lobbed at them is offensive?
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Originally posted by [username edited by p.c. moderator]:
Originally posted by Rob_Gee:
If it was last week, I was on vacation and probably missed it.
This is distracting from my point: to put it another way, as long as KKK members don't think calling people certain names is offensive, does that make it a-ok? Shouldn't the recipient be the one to decide whether the word that is being lobbed at them is offensive? [/b]
Why should it be offensive for KKK members to call people certain names, when same certain people call each other said name?
If calling oneself certain names is not offensive, why should it be offensive for others to call certain people the same name?
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Originally posted by Roadbike Mankie:
If calling oneself certain names is not offensive, why should it be offensive for others to call certain people the same name?
I agree entirely, but I think in that particular situation that the majority of the ethnic group do find that word offensive irregardless of who's using it.
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I feel that we can give Mankie a pass. After all he spent an awful lot of time aboard ship, and when he finally got the chance to go ashore it was to some noname island in the south atlantic where the sheep outnumbered the men by a ratio of 8-to-1.
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For the record, I have no problem being called a doodle or diddle or whatever, my chief concern is that someone else might be, and since it takes place on this message board, it will be taken as official club policy, the club could lose business because of it. Americans love to boycott things when their national identity is insulted; just look at Freedom Fries!
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Originally posted by clouds R²:
some noname island in the south atlantic where the sheep outnumbered the men by a ratio of 8-to-1.
I'm sure 9 out of the 10 of those men preferred that ratio.
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And for the record...I find it extremely offensive to be referred to as a "Brit"....I am not a Brit, I am English born and bred. "Brit" is slang for a native of Britain, which consists of England, N. Ireland, Wales and Scotland..and I find it very upsetting and offensive to be associated with the country of Scotland, so please don't call me a Brit ever again.
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No problem, four eyes.
Originally posted by Roadbike Mankie:
And for the record...I find it extremely offensive to be referred to as a "Brit"....I am not a Brit, I am English born and bred. "Brit" is slang for a native of Britain, which consists of England, N. Ireland, Wales and Scotland..and I find it very upsetting and offensive to be associated with the country of Scotland, so please don't call me a Brit ever again.
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AND I HATE IT WHEN SOMEBODY REFERS TO ME AS AN 'AMERICAN'. I'M NOT FROM BLOODY SOUTH AMERICA OR BLOODY CENTRAL AMERICA, OR EVEN BLOODY CANADA. I'M FROM THE UNITED STATES, BEST REFERED TO AS 'TOSTADOS UNIDOS' OF BENNETTON.
actually I'm from the eastern shore, but don't call me, unless you're ed mcmahon
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Personally, I think the only "name" I find unoffensive is "Julian, high lord of sea and air, sinker of ships, and destroyer of that which would dare to fly in mid-heaven." I will consider "Julianteam15" accepatable among close friends, however.
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Originally posted by Xavier Bush, Power Forward:
No problem, four eyes.
Originally posted by Roadbike Mankie:
And for the record...I find it extremely offensive to be referred to as a "Brit"....I am not a Brit, I am English born and bred. "Brit" is slang for a native of Britain, which consists of England, N. Ireland, Wales and Scotland..and I find it very upsetting and offensive to be associated with the country of Scotland, so please don't call me a Brit ever again.
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My eyesight is getting so bad, four eyes is a compliment at this point.
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my world's getting bigger as my eyesight gets worse i can't see the lines on my
idiot board
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Originally posted by Roadbike Mankie:
And for the record...I find it extremely offensive to be referred to as a "Brit"....I am not a Brit, I am English born and bred. "Brit" is slang for a native of Britain, which consists of England, N. Ireland, Wales and Scotland..and I find it very upsetting and offensive to be associated with the country of Scotland, so please don't call me a Brit ever again.
wow. who knew?! whats wrong with scotland? they r just tight-wads, the welsh- all sheep-fuckers. english - bad teeth.
me personally i dont mind being called a "filthy potato-eating mick", refer to my german mom as "frau hitler" and call my italian friends "wops" -- which has to be the lamest ethnic slur ever , i mean come on "with out papers"? pulease come on america i know youve got more hatred in ya, u can do better than that!
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Originally posted by clod R²:
I'M FROM THE UNITED STATES, BEST REFERED TO AS 'TOSTADOS UNIDOS' OF BENNETTON.
oh i love them with salsa. yummy.
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I think Cracker is the most hilarious name ever, I mean common' guys, Cracker is the best you can come up with?
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Originally posted by Rob_Gee:
I think Cracker is the most hilarious name ever, I mean common' guys, Cracker is the best you can come up with?
i remember reading somewhere that the origin of "cracker" as a term for white folk is "whip cracker."
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Okay, as long as it's Miracle Whip.
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"There are various theories about the origin of the term "cracker." The term has been traced to the 1760s, when it was used by the Earl of Dartmouth to refer to frontiersmen who were "great boasters." It may be derived from the Gaelic "craic," meaning "entertaining conversation." Other theories include references to cracking a whip over oxen when driving cotton to market, and to the 18th century practice of cracking corn to make liquor. Others suggest that "cracker" derives from the white overseers who cracked the whip to intimidate black slaves. There may also be another possible origin - the first residents of Georgia were British convicts. In this setting the word takes on an illegal or criminal context. The term was used by Charles Darwin in The Origin of Species to refer to "Virginia squatters" (illegal settlers)."
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/White_cracker (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/White_cracker)
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Originally posted by [username edited by p.c. moderator]:
Personally, I think the only "name" I find unoffensive is "Julian, high lord of sea and air, sinker of ships, and destroyer of that which would dare to fly in mid-heaven." I will consider "Julianteam15" accepatable among close friends, however.
i thought your name was jaron
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Originally posted by god's shoeshine:
i thought your name was jaron
I am highly offended by your blatant racism.
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http://athena.english.vt.edu/~appalach/essaysA/cracker.htm (http://athena.english.vt.edu/~appalach/essaysA/cracker.htm)
No support for the whip cracker hypothesis.
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Originally posted by god's shoeshine:
i thought your name was jaron
jaron@everyonelovesjaron.com
From: "Jaron Clay" <vinnie_mac_2000@hotmail.com>
So did I.
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Originally posted by MTB-Markie:
Originally posted by god's shoeshine:
i thought your name was jaron
jaron@everyonelovesjaron.com
From: "Jaron Clay" <vinnie_mac_2000@hotmail.com>
So did I. [/b]
That is the name THE MAN gave to me. It is offensive and does not take into account my rich ethnic heritage.
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ohhh gotcha
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I thought his name was Vinnie Mac.
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I thought his name was Randall Jr.
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Jaron is his slave name.
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Originally posted by Xavier Bush, Power Forward:
I thought his name was Vinnie Mac.
No, Xavier, that's merely my pen name.
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Originally posted by Rob_Gee:
I think Cracker is the most hilarious name ever, I mean common' guys, Cracker is the best you can come up with?
Honky! What's that one all about?
Round eye! That's pretty lame too.
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Originally posted by Roadbike Mankie:
Originally posted by Rob_Gee:
I think Cracker is the most hilarious name ever, I mean common' guys, Cracker is the best you can come up with?
Honky! What's that one all about?
Round eye! That's pretty lame too. [/b]
Yeah, Honky is a hoot also. Never heard round eye before.