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Title: In D.C.: One drink>Drive>Jail
Post by: Arlette on October 12, 2005, 11:46:00 am
So even though the legal BAC limit is .05, in D.C. you can go to jail if you've had only one drink and test at lower than .05.  Did you guys know this?  An officer gets to use his/her discretion?  Scary.  
 
 http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2005/10/11/AR2005101101968_pf.html (http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2005/10/11/AR2005101101968_pf.html)
Title: Re: In D.C.: One drink>Drive>Jail
Post by: Candy Flesh on October 12, 2005, 11:50:00 am
metro metro cab cab it
Title: Re: In D.C.: One drink>Drive>Jail
Post by: Frank Gallagher on October 12, 2005, 11:53:00 am
Guns are also illegal in the district....they're really tough on that one too.
Title: Re: In D.C.: One drink>Drive>Jail
Post by: duderino on October 12, 2005, 11:57:00 am
it must be nice to be able to spend $2000 to get out of paying $400 plus counseling.
Title: Re: In D.C.: One drink>Drive>Jail
Post by: Venerable Bede on October 12, 2005, 11:58:00 am
again, stupid d.c. over-regulating itself.  having a set limit is fine, but to have a double-secret limit under that limit is shady.
Title: Re: In D.C.: One drink>Drive>Jail
Post by: Guiny on October 12, 2005, 11:59:00 am
Sounds like a fair law to me, just think, it might actually save a life. Go figure.
Title: Re: In D.C.: One drink>Drive>Jail
Post by: duderino on October 12, 2005, 12:02:00 pm
not letting anybody drive at all would save lives too, as would making alcohol illegal again.
Title: Re: In D.C.: One drink>Drive>Jail
Post by: Venerable Bede on October 12, 2005, 12:02:00 pm
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Originally posted by Rob_Gee:
  Sounds like a fair law to me, just think, it might actually save a life. Go figure.
without having a drink, you or i most likely would have a .01 blood alcohol limit - enough to qualify as "drunk" under that law.  
 
 the point is- if that's where the actual demarcation is, then make that the official stance, not, well, our official stance is .03 (or whatever), but if we pull you over, and decide that you are acting funny (for whatever reason), we can determine that you are drunk.
Title: Re: In D.C.: One drink>Drive>Jail
Post by: sonickteam2 on October 12, 2005, 12:03:00 pm
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Originally posted by Rob_Gee:
  Sounds like a fair law to me, just think, it might actually save a life. Go figure.
oh, all of a sudden we are concerned with saving lives?
 
   i have an idea that will save some lives...
Title: Re: In D.C.: One drink>Drive>Jail
Post by: Sage 703 on October 12, 2005, 12:09:00 pm
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Originally posted by Arlette:
  So even though the legal BAC limit is .05, in D.C. you can go to jail if you've had only one drink and test at lower than .05.  Did you guys know this?  An officer gets to use his/her discretion?  Scary.  
 
  http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2005/10/11/AR2005101101968_pf.html (http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2005/10/11/AR2005101101968_pf.html)
Am I missing something?  I thought legal BAC was .08, not .05
Title: Re: In D.C.: One drink>Drive>Jail
Post by: Arlette on October 12, 2005, 12:09:00 pm
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Originally posted by Rob_Gee:
  Sounds like a fair law to me, just think, it might actually save a life. Go figure.
I think talking on a cell phone while driving is more dangerous than one drink.
Title: Re: In D.C.: One drink>Drive>Jail
Post by: Guiny on October 12, 2005, 12:12:00 pm
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Originally posted by sonickteam, forum nice guy:
 oh, all of a sudden we are concerned with saving lives?
 
   i have an idea that will save some lives... [/QB]
Find a cure for cancer or AIDS? Stop smoking and doing drugs? Great idea   :D
Title: Re: In D.C.: One drink>Drive>Jail
Post by: Arlette on October 12, 2005, 12:12:00 pm
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Originally posted by callat703:
   
Quote
Originally posted by Arlette:
  So even though the legal BAC limit is .05, in D.C. you can go to jail if you've had only one drink and test at lower than .05.  Did you guys know this?  An officer gets to use his/her discretion?  Scary.  
 
   http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2005/10/11/AR2005101101968_pf.html (http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2005/10/11/AR2005101101968_pf.html)  
Am I missing something?  I thought legal BAC was .08, not .05 [/b]
Read the article.  .08 is national, .05 is the D.C. law, with this arbitray caveat that even .01 can be illegal under an officer's judgement.
Title: Re: In D.C.: One drink>Drive>Jail
Post by: TomJaworski on October 12, 2005, 12:12:00 pm
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I think talking on a cell phone while driving is more dangerous than one drink.
so true...this one drink thing is fuckin' ridiculous...and metro sucks on a weekday...and at night...just not a reliable mode of transport, period.
Title: Re: In D.C.: One drink>Drive>Jail
Post by: Guiny on October 12, 2005, 12:13:00 pm
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Originally posted by Arlette:
 
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I think talking on a cell phone while driving is more dangerous than one drink. [/b]
I think steering with your legs is more dangerous than talking on a cell phone.
Title: Re: In D.C.: One drink>Drive>Jail
Post by: Sage 703 on October 12, 2005, 12:15:00 pm
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Originally posted by Arlette:
   
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Originally posted by callat703:
   
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Originally posted by Arlette:
  So even though the legal BAC limit is .05, in D.C. you can go to jail if you've had only one drink and test at lower than .05.  Did you guys know this?  An officer gets to use his/her discretion?  Scary.  
 
    http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2005/10/11/AR2005101101968_pf.html (http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2005/10/11/AR2005101101968_pf.html)  
Am I missing something?  I thought legal BAC was .08, not .05 [/b]
Read the article.  .08 is national, .05 is the D.C. law, with this arbitray caveat that even .01 can be illegal under an officer's judgement. [/b]
Actually, it says .05 in Maryland and Virginia.  DC says it has zero tolerance.  Wow.
Title: Re: In D.C.: One drink>Drive>Jail
Post by: Frank Gallagher on October 12, 2005, 12:21:00 pm
Look, if only having one drink is what the law allows...why bother having one drink? Just don't drink at all. It's that simple really.
 
 Reading the paper.
 
 Putting on eyeliner.
 
 Yelling at the kid who's misbehaving in the back
 seat.
 
 Changing the radio station/cd.
 
 Talking on a bluetooth or other hands free device.
 
 Checking out her arse who's walking along the street.
 
 Drinking coffee or other hot beverage...or cold for that matter.
 
 Lighting a cigarette.
 
 Smoking a cigarette, because you may drop it on your lap while driving.
 
 ...all these things my friends are more distracting than driving after one single glass of wine. Should we make them illegal? I say yes!
Title: Re: In D.C.: One drink>Drive>Jail
Post by: sonickteam2 on October 12, 2005, 12:23:00 pm
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Originally posted by Rob_Gee:
   
Quote
Originally posted by sonickteam, forum nice guy:
 oh, all of a sudden we are concerned with saving lives?
 
   i have an idea that will save some lives... [/b]
Find a cure for cancer or AIDS? Stop smoking and doing drugs? Great idea    :D  [/QB]
Nancy Reagan??? is that you???
Title: Re: In D.C.: One drink>Drive>Jail
Post by: sonickteam2 on October 12, 2005, 12:24:00 pm
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Originally posted by Roadbike Mankie:
  Look, if only having one drink is what the law allows...why bother having one drink? Just don't drink at all. It's that simple really.
 
 Reading the paper.
 
 Putting on eyeliner.
 
 Yelling at the kid who's misbehaving in the back
 seat.
 
 Changing the radio station/cd.
 
 Talking on a bluetooth or other hands free device.
 
 Checking out her arse who's walking along the street.
 
 Drinking coffee or other hot beverage...or cold for that matter.
 
 Lighting a cigarette.
 
 Smoking a cigarette, because you may drop it on your lap while driving.
 
 ...all these things my friends are more distracting than driving after one single glass of wine. Should we make them illegal? I say yes!
of course!!! it would save lives!!!!
Title: Re: In D.C.: One drink>Drive>Jail
Post by: sonickteam2 on October 12, 2005, 12:26:00 pm
I have an idea that would help curb drinking and driving.  
 
   how about eliminating parking lots from bars!!!
Title: Re: In D.C.: One drink>Drive>Jail
Post by: Frank Gallagher on October 12, 2005, 12:26:00 pm
Oh, I forgot one that seems extremely pertinent to DC
 
 
 Performing a drive-by shooting.
 
 Should DC make that one illegal?
Title: Re: In D.C.: One drink>Drive>Jail
Post by: Frank Gallagher on October 12, 2005, 12:32:00 pm
Europe has it's own version of D.W.I
 
 Driving
 While
 Irish
 
 YOWZER!!! It's bad, very bad.
Title: Re: In D.C.: One drink>Drive>Jail
Post by: Bags on October 12, 2005, 01:10:00 pm
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Originally posted by Arlette:
  So even though the legal BAC limit is .05, in D.C. you can go to jail if you've had only one drink and test at lower than .05.  Did you guys know this?  An officer gets to use his/her discretion?  Scary.  
 
  http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2005/10/11/AR2005101101968_pf.html (http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2005/10/11/AR2005101101968_pf.html)
WHOA, I know the woman in the article!!
Title: Re: In D.C.: One drink>Drive>Jail
Post by: Bags on October 12, 2005, 01:22:00 pm
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Originally posted by duderino:
  it must be nice to be able to spend $2000 to get out of paying $400 plus counseling.
24 hours of her time is likely worth $9600.
Title: Re: In D.C.: One drink>Drive>Jail
Post by: Charlie Nakatestes, Japanese Golfer on October 12, 2005, 01:24:00 pm
I think masturbating while driving or receiving a bj while driving is more dangerous, but I'm hoping they don't outlaw those.
 
 
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Originally posted by Rob_Gee:
   
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Originally posted by Arlette:
 
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I think talking on a cell phone while driving is more dangerous than one drink. [/b]
I think steering with your legs is more dangerous than talking on a cell phone. [/b]
Title: Re: In D.C.: One drink>Drive>Jail
Post by: muschi on October 12, 2005, 01:44:00 pm
drugs! take drugs instead!
Title: Re: In D.C.: One drink>Drive>Jail
Post by: xcanuck on October 12, 2005, 02:30:00 pm
Further evidence of what happens when you give power to people with little self-esteem. I'm not saying ALL cops have little self-esteem....but...
Title: Re: In D.C.: One drink>Drive>Jail
Post by: Arlette on October 14, 2005, 12:59:00 pm
It's even worse.....now the Post is reporting the story of a guy who admitted having one Heinekin, was given a breathalyzer, blew a 0.0, but was still arrested and kept in jail overnight.
 
 Lesson learned:  lie to the cops.
 
 http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2005/10/13/AR2005101302049_2.html (http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2005/10/13/AR2005101302049_2.html)
Title: Re: In D.C.: One drink>Drive>Jail
Post by: muschi on October 15, 2005, 09:03:00 am
boycott dc. stop going out in dc. frankly i find it a pain in the ass to go into dc unless its a short hop across the river into gtown to plenty of parking-land. i dont do metro. hell, there are people in texas and saudi arabia depending on me -- would u take food out of the mouths of their children? commie!
 
 seriously, dc is awful full of itself. frankly im not real keen on the smell of piss as i walk down the streets and i swear to god every time im in dc i walk past some guy muttering about the cia or some shit like that. i used to live at 20th and S st nw in a lil studio [in 1998 $420/mo!] and among the the reasons i move to va was the panhndling homeless folks who lived all along the street and the cops wouldnt arrest not bc they couldnt but bc "they'll be back out" when they bothered ppl especially women. if dc spent half as much time on the real problems in dc instead of harassing ppl who had 1 bloody beer and then drove at the ultra dangerous high rates of speed u can attain in all those effin lights even if u ARE going as far as out of town -- whoa u will reach, what, mach-30mph?! scooters go faster! [said in jive accent] "watch out!" hell, ive been in more danger by friggin wanton bicyclists running me down. dc ought to go eff itself. its getting awful full of itself -- did this occur because the refurbishment of neighborhoods, that is ousting the locals and supplying housing for yuppies...? southeast still looks like SE to me. seems this city isnt doing squat for the poor. real easy to provide for the rich [yuppies], and yes, u and me. doesnt take much effort to give favors for builders and contractors and follow the money.
 
 
 oh and i luv the handgun ban, yeah real effective - to keep them out of hands of responsible gun-owners and the prey in dc who need to protect themselves. brilliant, it ought to keep the guns out of gang-member hoodlum hands, u kno how they always follow the law, they're just misunderstood.
 
 one of the articles told of the guy with a clearance or seeking one that this seriously effed with. one more reason to go elsewhere than dc if youve got a clearance. an arrest could make u lose your job and career. perhaps dc would be happy if all those well-paid clearnaced ppl and their $$ stayed away.
 
 this quote from the article is rich:
 
 "Fair [the arresting cop] acknowledged that many people aren't aware of the District's policy. "But it is our law," he said. "If you don't know about it, then you're a victim of your own ignorance." "
 ------------ this is why you dont leave shit up to the discretion of some power-loving cop and to take advantage of people not knowing an obscure little known law that u essentially hide fro mthe public due to it being completely out of step with common practice. like dc couldnt post some adverts on the side of busses, pulease. they know what theyr hiding and why. think of all the violent or criminal cases delayed by this shit wasting already strained court resources -- again no regard for the safety and qualityof life for city residents -- jus tgo after the easy pickins.
 
 
 so why not help make va less suburban come spend your bread here. plenty of space, plenty of parking.
 
 im sorry did i say too much, like the truth? um, i was just kidding about all of this i didnt really mean it [sarcasm].
Title: Re: In D.C.: One drink>Drive>Jail
Post by: Frank Gallagher on October 17, 2005, 05:18:00 am
.....many years ago when I worked in the shitty Hechingers in Tenly Town...it's a CVS now, I nabbed some loser druggie for shop lifting a load of batteries,(evidently, they use the battery acid for some kind of drug additive or something), anyway, when we called the cops, the arresting officer was good mates with the shoplifter so let him go with a high-five.
 
 Sums DC cops up really.
Title: Re: In D.C.: One drink>Drive>Jail
Post by: MindCage on October 17, 2005, 09:10:00 am
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Originally posted by Arlette:
 I think talking on a cell phone while driving is more dangerous than one drink.
This may be true, and probably why it's also illegal to talk on your cellphone while driving in DC...
 
 Just a hunch!
 
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Title: Re: In D.C.: One drink>Drive>Jail
Post by: muschi on October 17, 2005, 09:22:00 am
well sex while driving ought to be a requirement, not unlike wearing a seat belt, if i ran things!  :D
Title: Re: In D.C.: One drink>Drive>Jail
Post by: Frank Gallagher on October 18, 2005, 05:24:00 am
How about driving while asian?  :eek:
Title: Re: In D.C.: One drink>Drive>Jail
Post by: Random Citizen on October 18, 2005, 05:54:00 am
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Originally posted by MindCage:
  This may be true, and probably why it's also illegal to talk on your cellphone while driving in DC...
That's inaccurate. The DC law permits use of hands-free cell devices while driving. That said, I still see lots of people in the city holding their phones with one hand and the other on the wheel.