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Title: Anybody else counting down the days to Justice?
Post by: DeathFromAbove1979 on January 26, 2008, 03:27:00 am
Well... listen here:
 
 http://www.pinkponyparty.de/justice_at_pinkponyisdead.mp3 (http://www.pinkponyparty.de/justice_at_pinkponyisdead.mp3)
 
 If you want the download link PM me!
 
 It'll be a sweaty, sweaty, sweaty, sexy mix.
 
 and shameless plug I have my own mixtape floating around if you want it. It sucks.
 
 ♥
Title: Re: Anybody else counting down the days to Justice?
Post by: killsaly on January 26, 2008, 09:46:00 pm
Im ready for the sonar show.  thanks for the mix link.
Title: Re: Anybody else counting down the days to Justice?
Post by: kosmo vinyl on January 26, 2008, 09:49:00 pm
YAWN
 
 can we please have as many threads regarding Justice as we did for Incubus   :roll:
Title: Re: Anybody else counting down the days to Justice?
Post by: sweetcell on January 27, 2008, 03:13:00 am
i'm only partially excited about this gig.  over-all, there isn't much to justice's stage show other than two guys pumping their fists behind laptops/keyboard, a wall of amps and some strobe lights.  if you like their music, then it'll be a great show for you.  if you like french nu house (or whatever it is that they're calling it these days), or you like shaking your thang, you'll probably like the concert.  but their live show won't win over many new converts.
 
 that being said, i'm more optimistic about seeing them at the 930 than i would be about seeing them at terminal 5 again - much better space.  but i can only imagine how great it would have been to see them back in the day in a non-packed club or party.  i hope (most probably in vain) that this doesn't sell out.
 
   
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Originally posted by DeathFromAbove1979:
 http://www.pinkponyparty.de/justice_at_pinkponyisdead.mp3
 
 If you want the download link PM me!
i'm confused... that is the download link.  also, that recording, while effectively capturing their energy, sounds pretty horrible (insert predictable "it's not the recording, it's the music" comment).
Title: Re: Anybody else counting down the days to Justice?
Post by: DeathFromAbove1979 on January 27, 2008, 04:34:00 am
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Originally posted by kosmo:
  YAWN
 
 can we please have as many threads regarding Justice as we did for Incubus    :roll:  
I see mine  and one saying the Justice tickets have gone on sale...
 
 So no more than one allowed on the message boards these days?
 
 Saly- you're welcome
 
 Cell - They don't actually use laptops and you don't go for JUST seeing them live you go for the experience, when you get down to it it IS just 2 guys standing on stage having a great time making people dance. ANd why hate on a genre of music made SOULY for the purpose of making people dance?
 
 Seriously? It's a party genre and if you're not gonna take it in for what it is then that's that. It will be awesome but sadly DC is dead compared to the crowds in Baltimore.
 
 Sonar dance parties > parties @ 930
Title: Re: Anybody else counting down the days to Justice?
Post by: sweetcell on January 27, 2008, 03:08:00 pm
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Originally posted by DeathFromAbove1979:
 I see mine  and one saying the Justice tickets have gone on sale...
there was  the one about justice biting off more than it could chew (http://www.930.com/cgi-bin/ubb-cgi/ultimatebb.cgi?ubb=get_topic;f=1;t=016756), too (hangs head in shame).
   
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Originally posted by DeathFromAbove1979:
 Cell - They don't actually use laptops and you don't go for JUST seeing them live you go for the experience, when you get down to it it IS just 2 guys standing on stage having a great time making people dance. ANd why hate on a genre of music made SOULY for the purpose of making people dance?
they definitely use laptops (http://picasaweb.google.com/sweetcell/JusticeTerminal5NYC/photo#5124292358074737538) in their live sets.  i should know,  i saw them (http://picasaweb.google.com/sweetcell/JusticeTerminal5NYC) back in october       :roll:       they sometimes do DJ sets, but as far as i know this tour is a "live set".  
 
 chill.  i'm not hating, i love dance music.  hell, i've gotten on planes to see electronic acts and djs.  as i wrote in my review of the T5 show (SEARCH FUNCTION, PLEASE), justice need to turn it up a notch visually if they want to widen their appeal.  if they were playing in an un-packed warehouse, their show would be awesome b/c there would be room to dance.  instead, i fear the 930 is going to be packed full and you won't have much space to move.  so: can't really dance (frustrating), not much/enough going on on stage (visually boring)... now do you see how this might not be the most compelling show for a non-fan?
 
 it's a dance act in a rock'n'roll outfit, and my complaint is that it could be a lot better.  other electronic acts can go beyond "just 2 guys standing on stage having a great time making people dance", why can't justice?  that being said, i'll be there.  i really like their music.
 
     
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Originally posted by DeathFromAbove1979:
 Seriously? It's a party genre and if you're not gonna take it in for what it is then that's that.
excellent argument.
Title: Re: Anybody else counting down the days to Justice?
Post by: kosmo vinyl on January 27, 2008, 04:33:00 pm
well hopefully sweetcell will confirm the fact that i have nothing against "party music" and electronic music in general seeing as i own vinyl by the likes of Inner City, Derrick May, Juan Atkins from 1988 aka the dark ages of techno... but what i've heard from Justice is they are a bunch of pretenders to the throne..
Title: Re: Anybody else counting down the days to Justice?
Post by: Vas Deferens on January 27, 2008, 04:37:00 pm
They didn't make people dance at Coachella last year.
 
 
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Originally posted by DeathFromAbove1979:
 
 
 Cell - They don't actually use laptops and you don't go for JUST seeing them live you go for the experience, when you get down to it it IS just 2 guys standing on stage having a great time making people dance.
 
Title: Re: Anybody else counting down the days to Justice?
Post by: sweetcell on January 27, 2008, 07:48:00 pm
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Originally posted by kosmo:
  well hopefully sweetcell will confirm the fact that i have nothing against "party music" and electronic music in general
co-signed.
 
 
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Originally posted by wanderlust j. marshmallow:
  They didn't make people dance at Coachella last year.
well, that's a little strong... they definitely didn't make joe dance, and i eventualy lost interest - too much other cool stuff going on at the time.  but there were certainly throngs of people in the sahara tent that were eating it up.
 
 joe - based on their show at T5 this past october, i can assure you they've gotten a lot better in the make-people-dance dept.
Title: Re: Anybody else counting down the days to Justice?
Post by: DeathFromAbove1979 on January 28, 2008, 01:51:00 pm
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Originally posted by sweetcell:
   
 
 chill.  i'm not hating, i love dance music.  hell, i've gotten on planes to see electronic acts and djs.  as i wrote in my review of the T5 show (SEARCH FUNCTION, PLEASE), justice need to turn it up a notch visually if they want to widen their appeal.  if they were playing in an un-packed warehouse, their show would be awesome b/c there would be room to dance.  instead, i fear the 930 is going to be packed full and you won't have much space to move.  so: can't really dance (frustrating), not much/enough going on on stage (visually boring)... now do you see how this might not be the most compelling show for a non-fan?
 
 it's a dance act in a rock'n'roll outfit, and my complaint is that it could be a lot better.  other electronic acts can go beyond "just 2 guys standing on stage having a great time making people dance", why can't justice?  that being said, i'll be there.  i really like their music.
 
       
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Originally posted by DeathFromAbove1979:
 Seriously? It's a party genre and if you're not gonna take it in for what it is then that's that.
excellent argument. [/b]
I can agree that other acts going around have a more intriguing live show, such as Simian Mobile Disco, but most electronic acts I've seen just use the house lights and no one really has their own stage setting outside of Simian Mobile Disco and Daft Punk. Although it would be awesome if Justice up'd their lighting game, at this point I can imagine that they can afford it. But since this is their biggest U.S. tour to date we can hope they're planning something big.
 
 As for the laptop thing I know for a fact they use laptops to produce music [duh] but Ive only seen videos like this one where they arent using laptops: http://youtube.com/watch?v=jkyhqE_VOEE, (http://youtube.com/watch?v=jkyhqE_VOEE,) but if they use laptops it would be news to me and not surprising news at that. But they for sure haven't used them in the past and I think that's way more awesome.
Title: Re: Anybody else counting down the days to Justice?
Post by: Vas Deferens on January 28, 2008, 02:00:00 pm
The biggest question about this show is this: Will they perform songs from their ONE album, OR will they DJ 80s music like they did at Coachella?
Title: Re: Anybody else counting down the days to Justice?
Post by: DeathFromAbove1979 on January 29, 2008, 03:56:00 am
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Originally posted by wanderlust j. marshmallow:
  The biggest question about this show is this: Will they perform songs from their ONE album, OR will they DJ 80s music like they did at Coachella?
Judging by their latest Fader[http://www.zshare.net/audio/5697192cc6da57] mix I doubt they'll dj JUST 80s dance music, but judiging by their rejected Fabric [http://hippiehippiehoorah.blogspot.com/2008/01/justice-rejected-fabric-mix.html]mix, I wouldnt put it past them.
Title: Re: Anybody else counting down the days to Justice?
Post by: DeathFromAbove1979 on March 06, 2008, 07:35:00 pm
Someone posted this on my facebook and it's absolutely amazing:
 
 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JFjrp6-uBEE (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JFjrp6-uBEE)
Title: Re: Anybody else counting down the days to Justice?
Post by: 930clubber on March 07, 2008, 01:53:00 am
i started counting down a week ago.  5 days to JUSTICE!  wooooooooooooo
Title: Re: Anybody else counting down the days to Justice?
Post by: sweetcell on March 07, 2008, 08:55:00 am
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Originally posted by DeathFromAbove1979:
  Someone posted this on my facebook and it's absolutely amazing:
 
  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JFjrp6-uBEE (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JFjrp6-uBEE)
"absolutely amazing"?  how can you even listen to that?  sounds absolutely horrible...  pure distorsion.  
 
 on the upside, you'll be very pleasantly surprised when you hear how clean they sound at the club next week  :)
Title: Re: Anybody else counting down the days to Justice?
Post by: Charlie Nakatestes, Japanese Golfer on March 07, 2008, 10:14:00 am
The only justice I'm looking forward to is when the Republicans are booted out of the White House. Unfortunately, I don't think the injustice of GW Bush will be long forgotten in five years the way the band Justice will be.
Title: Re: Anybody else counting down the days to Justice?
Post by: sweetcell on March 07, 2008, 10:30:00 am
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Originally posted by Charlie Nakatestes,Japanese Golfer:
  The only justice I'm looking forward to is when the Republicans are booted out of the White House. Unfortunately, I don't think the injustice of GW Bush will be long forgotten in five years the way the band Justice will be.
how would that be unfortunate?  i hope GWB is long remembered for his (more precisely, his regime's) injustices.  i hope that all future leaders, when in a time of crisis, remind themselves to "not pull a GW".  
 
 i agree with your assessment that justice, the band, will most probably be forgetten in 5 years.  they'll probably get a one-a-month spin on the "classic electronica" radio stations, tho.  can't wait for that format to hit the airwaves...
Title: Re: Anybody else counting down the days to Justice?
Post by: DeathFromAbove1979 on March 07, 2008, 11:14:00 am
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Originally posted by sweetcell:
   
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Originally posted by DeathFromAbove1979:
  Someone posted this on my facebook and it's absolutely amazing:
 
   http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JFjrp6-uBEE (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JFjrp6-uBEE)  
"absolutely amazing"?  how can you even listen to that?  sounds absolutely horrible...  pure distorsion.  
 
 on the upside, you'll be very pleasantly surprised when you hear how clean they sound at the club next week   :)  [/b]
What they're doing is insane, there's other videos from that same show I think. Yeah th esound quality is shit, but I guess I watch a lot of those videos and thats definetly some of the best sounding videos. Either way! Sundayyyyyyy
 
 
 ..and Wednesdayyy
Title: Re: Anybody else counting down the days to Justice?
Post by: miss pretentious on March 07, 2008, 02:26:00 pm
Anyone going to the Baltimore show? I've been abanded by a friend because she has to "pay to have her car fixed." pffft. Like THATS more important than Justice?
Title: Re: Anybody else counting down the days to Justice?
Post by: DeathFromAbove1979 on March 07, 2008, 04:46:00 pm
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Originally posted by miss pretentious:
  Anyone going to the Baltimore show? I've been abanded by a friend because she has to "pay to have her car fixed." pffft. Like THATS more important than Justice?
Im going to Sonar, I work in College Park on Sunday and I get off at 8, so right after work im making the 20 minute drive into Baltimore to dance my ass off.
Title: Re: Anybody else counting down the days to Justice?
Post by: 930clubber on March 07, 2008, 04:52:00 pm
the draw of justice is the dance party it promises.  we'll wave to you chattering musical archivists in the balconies from the dance floor.
Title: Re: Anybody else counting down the days to Justice?
Post by: sweetcell on March 08, 2008, 01:12:00 pm
instead of lame cell-cam vids, why not watch a professional  justice video? (http://vids.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=vids.individual&videoid=29486720)  i LOVE the retro 70's feel they create in this one... damn those french and their stylishness.
Title: Re: Anybody else counting down the days to Justice?
Post by: DeathFromAbove1979 on March 08, 2008, 04:15:00 pm
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Originally posted by sweetcell:
  instead of lame cell-cam vids, why not watch a professional  justice video? (http://vids.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=vids.individual&videoid=29486720)  i LOVE the retro 70's feel they create in this one... damn those french and their stylishness.
Cuz that's just their music vide, and I saw that a few days ago and it's So0o0o awesome. Hopefully Kanye West won't hire So-Me to do his next video and copy Justice.... again.
Title: Re: Anybody else counting down the days to Justice?
Post by: 930clubber on March 08, 2008, 05:56:00 pm
the cell cam vids suggest there won't be any backdrop graphics.  too bad.
Title: Re: Anybody else counting down the days to Justice?
Post by: cernoch79 on March 09, 2008, 01:30:00 am
Poster design I did for the show on Wednesday...
  <img src="http://www.cernochdesign.com/Justice-Cernoch-Poster-2008Reference72%20copy.jpg" alt=" - " />
Title: Re: Anybody else counting down the days to Justice?
Post by: killsaly on March 09, 2008, 06:12:00 pm
anybody know the set times for tonights show?
Title: Re: Anybody else counting down the days to Justice?
Post by: DeathFromAbove1979 on March 10, 2008, 02:56:00 am
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Originally posted by cernoch:
  Poster design I did for the show on Wednesday...
   <img src="http://www.cernochdesign.com/Justice-Cernoch-Poster-2008Reference72%20copy.jpg" alt=" - " />
Is that gonna be sold at the show? Along with any merch? I really wanted an effing shirt but at Sonar they didnt have a merch stand.
 
 BTW 1 word= Inanelysweaty.
Title: Re: Anybody else counting down the days to Justice?
Post by: killsaly on March 10, 2008, 02:20:00 pm
Great show at Sonar. It wasnt too crowded, and the soundsystem was unbelievable.  the bass coming through the speakers hit so hard.  i was also bummed about no merch.  great show though, you guys will have a blast at the Tuesday show.
Title: Re: Anybody else counting down the days to Justice?
Post by: Giles on March 12, 2008, 10:18:00 am
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Originally posted by killsaly:
  anybody know the set times for tonights show?
I just hope I don't have to factor in cab money for the ride home after the show - something tells me though this might not end for me to catch the last metro home.
Title: Re: Anybody else counting down the days to Justice?
Post by: DeathFromAbove1979 on March 12, 2008, 11:58:00 am
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Originally posted by Giles:
   
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Originally posted by killsaly:
  anybody know the set times for tonights show?
I just hope I don't have to factor in cab money for the ride home after the show - something tells me though this might not end for me to catch the last metro home. [/b]
They hit the stage at 1030 and were off by 11:45, depending on when your last train leaves you might be able to make it to the station, Why arent the set times on the website yet! eff!
Title: Re: Anybody else counting down the days to Justice?
Post by: Giles on March 12, 2008, 12:23:00 pm
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Originally posted by DeathFromAbove1979:
   
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Originally posted by Giles:
     
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Originally posted by killsaly:
  anybody know the set times for tonights show?
I just hope I don't have to factor in cab money for the ride home after the show - something tells me though this might not end for me to catch the last metro home. [/b]
They hit the stage at 1030 and were off by 11:45, depending on when your last train leaves you might be able to make it to the station, Why arent the set times on the website yet! eff! [/b]
if that's true for tonight's - that will effin' suck
Title: Re: Anybody else counting down the days to Justice?
Post by: Giles on March 12, 2008, 12:25:00 pm
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Originally posted by Giles:
   
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Originally posted by DeathFromAbove1979:
     
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Originally posted by Giles:
     
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Originally posted by killsaly:
  anybody know the set times for tonights show?
I just hope I don't have to factor in cab money for the ride home after the show - something tells me though this might not end for me to catch the last metro home. [/b]
They hit the stage at 1030 and were off by 11:45, depending on when your last train leaves you might be able to make it to the station, Why arent the set times on the website yet! eff! [/b]
if that time frame is the same for tonight's show - that will effin' suck [/b]
Title: Re: Anybody else counting down the days to Justice?
Post by: sweetcell on March 12, 2008, 02:37:00 pm
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Originally posted by DeathFromAbove1979:
 They hit the stage at 1030 and were off by 11:45, depending on when your last train leaves you might be able to make it to the station, Why arent the set times on the website yet! eff!
set times:
 Doors 8:00
 Busy 9:00
 Justice 10:30
 
 last train from U Street going north: 12:02 am, can connect with red line towards glenmont.
 
 last train from U Street going south/downtown: 11:50 pm, can connect with red line towards shady grove.
 
 after that, it's busses.
 
 folks in VA are outta luck, as they need to be on the 11:30 train out of U St station to get on the last orange line.
Title: Re: Anybody else counting down the days to Justice?
Post by: 930clubber on March 12, 2008, 02:42:00 pm
Drive, or use the time table as a good reason to stay overnight with your cute local friend?
 
   
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Originally posted by sweetcell:
   
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Originally posted by DeathFromAbove1979:
 They hit the stage at 1030 and were off by 11:45, depending on when your last train leaves you might be able to make it to the station, Why arent the set times on the website yet! eff!
set times:
 Doors 8:00
 Busy 9:00
 Justice 10:30
 
 last train from U Street going north: 12:02 am, can connect with red line towards glenmont.
 
 last train from U Street going south/downtown: 11:50 pm, can connect with red line towards shady grove.
 
 after that, it's busses.
 
 folks in VA are outta luck, as they need to be on the 11:30 train out of U St station to get on the last orange line. [/b]
Title: Re: Anybody else counting down the days to Justice?
Post by: DeathFromAbove1979 on March 12, 2008, 03:06:00 pm
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Originally posted by 930clubber:
  Drive, or use the time table as a good reason to stay overnight with your cute local friend?
 
   
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Originally posted by sweetcell:
     
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Originally posted by DeathFromAbove1979:
 They hit the stage at 1030 and were off by 11:45, depending on when your last train leaves you might be able to make it to the station, Why arent the set times on the website yet! eff!
set times:
 Doors 8:00
 Busy 9:00
 Justice 10:30
 
 last train from U Street going north: 12:02 am, can connect with red line towards glenmont.
 
 last train from U Street going south/downtown: 11:50 pm, can connect with red line towards shady grove.
 
 after that, it's busses.
 
 folks in VA are outta luck, as they need to be on the 11:30 train out of U St station to get on the last orange line. [/b]
[/b]
She's coming back to VA with me after the show  :p
Title: Re: Anybody else counting down the days to Justice?
Post by: Giles on March 12, 2008, 03:44:00 pm
great... 10:30 start time - thank you very much....[sarcasm]  shit shit shit.... that fuckin' sucks.  The 9:30 is the only venue that tries to have it's patrons take the metro to and from the show - occasionally they fail miserably - tonight for instance... of the numerous venues I've attended nationally, the 9:30 is the only that springs to mind that opens a full hour before the first band hits the stage - most everyother venue is half hour at the least... why is the door 8:00 anyway, what... you couldn't move the bands a half hour earlier - thanks for screwing up my night... and now I have to factor in cab money - thanks a fuckin' lot (which could have gone to say a drink or two... but oh no, you guys can be real dicks when it comes to timing this and other prior concerts [Sunday-Thursday] just right so it goes beyond the last subway of the night - that is really a rude dis-service to us who don't own cars and depend on public transit - DC isn't like NYC that has a subway open all day/night or even London, that quite frankly has an excellent night bus schedule)
Title: Re: Anybody else counting down the days to Justice?
Post by: 930clubber on March 12, 2008, 05:00:00 pm
930 should add a section to this board for carpooling from (and to) late shows.
 
 
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Originally posted by Giles:
  great... 10:30 start time - thank you very much....[sarcasm]  shit shit shit.... that fuckin' sucks.  The 9:30 is the only venue that tries to have it's patrons take the metro to and from the show - occasionally they fail miserably - tonight for instance... of the numerous venues I've attended nationally, the 9:30 is the only that springs to mind that opens a full hour before the first band hits the stage - most everyother venue is half hour at the least... why is the door 8:00 anyway, what... you couldn't move the bands a half hour earlier - thanks for screwing up my night... and now I have to factor in cab money - thanks a fuckin' lot (which could have gone to say a drink or two... but oh no, you guys can be real dicks when it comes to timing this and other prior concerts [Sunday-Thursday] just right so it goes beyond the last subway of the night - that is really a rude dis-service to us who don't own cars and depend on public transit - DC isn't like NYC that has a subway open all day/night or even London, that quite frankly has an excellent night bus schedule)
Title: Re: Anybody else counting down the days to Justice?
Post by: sweetcell on March 12, 2008, 05:55:00 pm
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Originally posted by Giles:
  great... 10:30 start time - thank you very much....[sarcasm]  shit shit shit.... that fuckin' sucks.  The 9:30 is the only venue that tries to have it's patrons take the metro to and from the show - occasionally they fail miserably - tonight for instance... of the numerous venues I've attended nationally, the 9:30 is the only that springs to mind that opens a full hour before the first band hits the stage - most everyother venue is half hour at the least... why is the door 8:00 anyway, what... you couldn't move the bands a half hour earlier - thanks for screwing up my night... and now I have to factor in cab money - thanks a fuckin' lot (which could have gone to say a drink or two... but oh no, you guys can be real dicks when it comes to timing this and other prior concerts [Sunday-Thursday] just right so it goes beyond the last subway of the night - that is really a rude dis-service to us who don't own cars and depend on public transit - DC isn't like NYC that has a subway open all day/night or even London, that quite frankly has an excellent night bus schedule)
don't take it so personally.  maybe the band (or their management) asked to start that late?  DJ/electronic acts traditionally hit the stage later at night.  
 
 BTW, DC does have a pretty good night bus service.  takes longer, but it'll get you home:  trip planner (http://www.wmata.com/tripplanner_d/tripplanner_form_solo.cfm)
 
 as a newbie, you might not have had time to appreciate how much the club does for its patrons and how often they take our concerns into consideration.  but they can't please everyone all of the time.  i'm sure the staph would rather finish up earlier and go home eariler too.
 
   
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Originally posted by 930clubber:
  930 should add a section to this board for carpooling from (and to) late shows.
excellent idea.  might be some legal implications, tho.
Title: Re: Anybody else counting down the days to Justice?
Post by: sweetcell on March 12, 2008, 05:57:00 pm
double post
Title: Re: Anybody else counting down the days to Justice?
Post by: Giles on March 13, 2008, 09:42:00 am
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Originally posted by sweetcell:
   don't take it so personally.  maybe the band (or their management) asked to start that late?  DJ/electronic acts traditionally hit the stage later at night.  
 
 
granted Justice has only one album to their credit, there wasn't any real justification that they started nearly 30 minutes later than the listed 10:30 start time.  
 
 not all electronic acts traditionally start late, Chemical Brothers, Kraftwerk, Orbital are but a few acts that I've seen at the 9:30 that were not "late". Even though not technically electronic last Fall's Hot Chip show, which was an early show was hand's down the best show of last year - the crowd you can tell had a blast, unlike last nights show where the audiences were nothing but a bunch of spastic twats.
Title: Re: Anybody else counting down the days to Justice?
Post by: Giles on March 13, 2008, 09:49:00 am
as for the show itself - I was definately standing in the wrong section of the floor to fully appreciate and enjoy the show. The last show I attended where people pushing and shoving and acting like utter douches to such extremes was at a Soul Asylum show at Hammerjacks.  I don't know, I thought the show was okay, just not 'great'.  It was too repetitious and lacked something. too many of the songs sounded the same.  
 
 (suffice to say I really enjoyed Busy' DJ set a little bit more)
 
 who the fuck was that middle act? ugh - what a talentless waste of time...
Title: Re: Anybody else counting down the days to Justice?
Post by: sweetcell on March 13, 2008, 10:57:00 am
i thought the show overall was one big, four-on-the-floor, bassline-driven "meh".
 
 Busy P did nothing for me.  his attempts to connect with the crowd failed, as did his track selection.  by the time he dropped the beastie boys, it was as if he had given up (granted, it was a step up from the techno drivel he was trying to get everyone to put their hands in the air to).  plain boring.
 
 that middle act was Wale, i believe - and 90% of that "act" involved getting the crowd "TO MAKE SOME NOOOOOOIIIIIIIISE!!!".  DC, make some noise. if wanna see Justice, make some noise.  if you graduated, make some noise.  if you're a drop-out, make some noise (i kid you not, they said this).  waching the dj of the duo try to set up his equipment while running out of things to call out to make some noise to was painful.  Wale (the rapper) had good flow when he got around to rapping.  sounded like they arrived late, so their set was mercifully short.
 
 Justice were good, did their thing, but weren't particularly impressive.  definitely not horrible, had me grooving most of the time but i can't say i'm looking forward to catching their next show.  i had to leave 10-15 minutes before the end of their set and can't say i was particularly torn up about it.
 
 people packed themselves down on the floor like i've never seen before, resulting in quite a bit of space upstairs.  as soon as Justice hit the stage, people surged forward (which i didn't think was possible, given the density down there) and the mass of humanity proceded to lurch from side to side, far beyond any one person's control.  last time i saw that at the 930 was during a gogol bordello show.  looked like most people were enjoying being smooshed from side to side.  personally, i was glad to have my bird's-eye view from the balcony bar.  
 
 and for the record, i counted 12 people with glowsticks in the air just as Justice started their set.
Title: Re: Anybody else counting down the days to Justice?
Post by: Giles on March 13, 2008, 11:08:00 am
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Originally posted by sweetcell:
 i thought the show overall was one big, four-on-the-floor, bassline-driven "meh".
yup
 
 
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looked like most people were enjoying being smooshed from side to side.  personally, i was glad to have my bird's-eye view from the balcony bar.  
 
 
actually no, no it wasn't fun  side to side might be 'fun' but being pushed forward repeatedly by some drunk cunt - who deserved to have his face smashed in - isn't what this concert or music genre is supposed to provoke.
Title: Re: Anybody else counting down the days to Justice?
Post by: 930clubber on March 13, 2008, 11:20:00 am
i agree with sweetcell, despite poking fun at him earlier, about the music and setup.  justice's set was a perfect reproduction of everything i've heard of theirs on cd or mp3.  i didn't find myself engaged at all.  i was hoping to reproduce the MIA experience.  not even close.
 
 i was caught up in the crowd that surged forward between the end of WA LAY and Justice.  it was like being in a rugby scrum.  the front ten rows was heavy in testosterone.  one more reason to lift weights.  i had to fight against the tectonic shear stresses of the under drinking age kids pushing and shoving to stay standing.  i lost my shoe before regaining it.  for me, surviving the scrum was the highlight of the show.
 
 bring on HOT CHIP!
Title: Re: Anybody else counting down the days to Justice?
Post by: sweetcell on March 13, 2008, 11:21:00 am
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Originally posted by Giles:
 isn't what this concert or music genre is supposed to provoke.
... and we come full circle: that's what i meant by justice not being meant for a rock-type setting.  but what ya gonna do - they've become "big".  of course they're going to try packing in as many paying customers as they can.
 
 the Marshalls on either side of the Justice boys were empty last night.  they aren't loaded with 12" Celestion speakers, they're just props with a cloth covering and an open back.  they shone light straight through them.  they were definitely solid at Terminal5.
Title: Re: Anybody else counting down the days to Justice?
Post by: 930clubber on March 13, 2008, 11:24:00 am
btw, MEN last Friday at the Black Cat was a great dance party, despite being more than half empty on the mainstage, (because of the rainy night and competition of liberation dance party at DC9?).
 
 The ex-LeTigre members at the laptop without the faux-Marshall's really engaged the audience.  Everyone really danced *despite* their ample space.
Title: Re: Anybody else counting down the days to Justice?
Post by: kosmo vinyl on March 13, 2008, 11:26:00 am
let's hope justice remembers to pack backup dat players and tapes   :p
Title: Re: Anybody else counting down the days to Justice?
Post by: sweetcell on March 13, 2008, 11:40:00 am
lame cell cam pix  here (http://picasaweb.google.com/sweetcell/Justice930Club12March2008).  i'm sure there are better ones out there.
Title: Re: Anybody else counting down the days to Justice?
Post by: Vas Deferens on March 13, 2008, 11:48:00 am
they were super lame at Coachella and I only caught 10 minutes of it.
 
 it's just sad that when great electronic acts come to DC, no one bothers to attend (Soulwax as an example).
Title: Re: Anybody else counting down the days to Justice?
Post by: Giles on March 13, 2008, 12:05:00 pm
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Originally posted by 930clubber:
 [qb] i agree with sweetcell, despite poking fun at him earlier, about the music and setup.  justice's set was a perfect reproduction of everything i've heard of theirs on cd or mp3.  i didn't find myself engaged at all.  i was hoping to reproduce the MIA experience.  not even close.
 
 
yet the MP3 Daft Punk Coachella show I listened to - had me dancing - Justice 'live' - not so
 
   
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Originally posted by wanderlust j. marshmallow:
 they were super lame at Coachella and I only caught 10 minutes of it.
 
 it's just sad that when great electronic acts come to DC, no one bothers to attend (Soulwax as an example).
I am soooo mad, I had tix to the Soulwax show and I completely forgot about til I saw the tix two days after the show... ugh!
Title: Re: Anybody else counting down the days to Justice?
Post by: Giles on March 13, 2008, 12:11:00 pm
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Originally posted by sweetcell:
   
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Originally posted by Giles:
 isn't what this concert or music genre is supposed to provoke.
... and we come full circle: that's what i meant by justice not being meant for a rock-type setting.  but what ya gonna do - they've become "big".  of course they're going to try packing in as many paying customers as they can.
 
 the Marshalls on either side of the Justice boys were empty last night.  they aren't loaded with 12" Celestion speakers, they're just props with a cloth covering and an open back.  they shone light straight through them.  they were definitely solid at Terminal5. [/b]
how is Terminal5?  I am going out the Yaz show
Title: Re: Anybody else counting down the days to Justice?
Post by: JFellows on March 13, 2008, 12:34:00 pm
That was the looniest, most eclectic crowd I've ever seen. Twelve year olds, senior citizens, ravers, and hipsters...all moshing the shit out of each other. Not to mention a gay:straight ratio of probably 2:1 towards the end of the night.
 
 I enjoyed Busy more than Justice.
 
 And Wale was just a waste of stage time.
Title: Re: Anybody else counting down the days to Justice?
Post by: sweetcell on March 13, 2008, 12:39:00 pm
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Originally posted by Giles:
 how is Terminal5?  I am going out the Yaz show
T5 is pretty terrible.  actually, not true - it's just souless.  it's the suburban strip mall of concert venue.  it's very shiny and new, cavernous, 3 balconies above the floor which is about 2-3 times as big as the 930's.  feels like the megaclubs you see in the movies - a wall of humanity going straight up 4 stories.  lots of space reserved for VIP areas.  good sound.
Title: Re: Anybody else counting down the days to Justice?
Post by: xneverwherex on March 13, 2008, 12:39:00 pm
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Originally posted by Giles:
   
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Originally posted by sweetcell:
     
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Originally posted by Giles:
 isn't what this concert or music genre is supposed to provoke.
... and we come full circle: that's what i meant by justice not being meant for a rock-type setting.  but what ya gonna do - they've become "big".  of course they're going to try packing in as many paying customers as they can.
 
 the Marshalls on either side of the Justice boys were empty last night.  they aren't loaded with 12" Celestion speakers, they're just props with a cloth covering and an open back.  they shone light straight through them.  they were definitely solid at Terminal5. [/b]
how is Terminal5?  I am going out the Yaz show [/b]
Terminal 5 is a decent venue. Ive been there way too many times as of late with every show sold out. Really depends on the band (which will indicate the crowd). Nick Cave had a very different crowd than editors - with people not as pushy when he played. Id imagine Yaz would have a great crowd (id assume a lot of older folk showing up).
 
 Sound has been really good also. Empanada Mama's is now on the 3rd floor (which is apparently being hyped up as theres mention of it quite frequently). There are still plenty of VIP sections roped off - so if you want a great spot on the railing you have to get there early. Great sight lines from the back bar also on the main floor - but it feels like youre a mile away from the stage.
 
 Also - when shows there are sold out - its beyond packed (wall-to-wall people). The side when you walk in tends to not be insanely crowded and theres great sight lines over there. If you have a need to be towards the front - get there early (perhaps an hour before doors).
Title: Re: Anybody else counting down the days to Justice?
Post by: samsfresh5 on March 13, 2008, 02:55:00 pm
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Originally posted by Giles:
  great... 10:30 start time - thank you very much....[sarcasm]  shit shit shit.... that fuckin' sucks.  The 9:30 is the only venue that tries to have it's patrons take the metro to and from the show - occasionally they fail miserably - tonight for instance... of the numerous venues I've attended nationally, the 9:30 is the only that springs to mind that opens a full hour before the first band hits the stage - most everyother venue is half hour at the least... why is the door 8:00 anyway, what... you couldn't move the bands a half hour earlier - thanks for screwing up my night... and now I have to factor in cab money - thanks a fuckin' lot (which could have gone to say a drink or two... but oh no, you guys can be real dicks when it comes to timing this and other prior concerts [Sunday-Thursday] just right so it goes beyond the last subway of the night - that is really a rude dis-service to us who don't own cars and depend on public transit - DC isn't like NYC that has a subway open all day/night or even London, that quite frankly has an excellent night bus schedule)
This is hilarious. Did it ever occur to you that maybe the band decides when they go on and off?  This is like bitching about the "930 Club's photo policy" ..the ARTIST decides this, not the club, and it varies night to night based on what the ARTIST wants.  So the next time instead of being "real dicks" about it, I'll talk to Thatguy about it and maybe he can pull the plug on the artist at 11:45 so that you can catch the metro.    ;)
 
 Thanks for your well-thought-out ideas!
Title: Re: Anybody else counting down the days to Justice?
Post by: DeathFromAbove1979 on March 13, 2008, 02:59:00 pm
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Originally posted by Giles:
   
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Originally posted by sweetcell:
   don't take it so personally.  maybe the band (or their management) asked to start that late?  DJ/electronic acts traditionally hit the stage later at night.  
 
 
granted Justice has only one album to their credit, there wasn't any real justification that they started nearly 30 minutes later than the listed 10:30 start time.  
 
 [/b]
Well, Wale was late, forcing Busy P to come on early and then Wale was squeezed in there and Justice came on in no time after Wale left the stage. I think the club messed up the time because they didnt even have set tiems for Wale, and also Fancy not being there Im sure screwed up the set times too. Either way, Justice killed it.
Title: Re: Anybody else counting down the days to Justice?
Post by: DeathFromAbove1979 on March 13, 2008, 03:07:00 pm
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Originally posted by kosmo:
  let's hope justice remembers to pack backup dat players and tapes    :p  
From the balcony you could clearly see that Justice totally recreates their music on stage. I was blown away, I was pissed I was on the balcony but I actually got tos ee how they were working. They have their light controls in the middle in between them and then each have 2 touch screens and midi controllers under each screen, and in the middle they have a sequence of knobs that Xavier was using heavily which is when I realized that he was actually recreating the music from those knobs and buttons. I was blown away, hate on them as much as you want but I was wayy more impressed once I saw this. Granted they probably had lots of stuff pre-mixed, but ther's sstill a good chunk of teamwork that goes into it to re-produce a lot of music and to improvise.
 
 And what's the point of having 18 extra amps on stage? The show was/is loud enough as it is. If those Marshalls WERE real then people would be bleeding from their ears, and there's no way that those Marshall amps were real at the Terminal 5 shows because they all would have had mics to pickup the sound from them.
 
 Their whole stage set-up is fake, the Amps and giant synthesizer. They've admitted to it... not like it's a huge surprise. It's a show... Did you know Daft Punk's pyramid is only half a pyramid!? ZOMG!
Title: Re: Anybody else counting down the days to Justice?
Post by: Giles on March 13, 2008, 03:13:00 pm
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Originally posted by DeathFromAbove1979:
 Well, Wale was late, forcing Busy P to come on early and then Wale was squeezed in there and Justice came on in no time after Wale left the stage. I think the club messed up the time because they didnt even have set tiems for Wale, and also Fancy not being there Im sure screwed up the set times too. Either way, Justice killed it. [/QB]
regardless if Wale was late, he was LAME.
Title: Re: Anybody else counting down the days to Justice?
Post by: manimtired on March 13, 2008, 03:13:00 pm
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Originally posted by DeathFromAbove1979:
   
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Originally posted by kosmo:
  let's hope justice remembers to pack backup dat players and tapes     :p  
From the balcony you could clearly see that Justice totally recreates their music on stage. I was blown away, I was pissed I was on the balcony but I actually got tos ee how they were working. They have their light controls in the middle in between them and then each have 2 touch screens and midi controllers under each screen, and in the middle they have a sequence of knobs that Xavier was using heavily which is when I realized that he was actually recreating the music from those knobs and buttons. I was blown away, hate on them as much as you want but I was wayy more impressed once I saw this. Granted they probably had lots of stuff pre-mixed, but ther's sstill a good chunk of teamwork that goes into it to re-produce a lot of music and to improvise.
 
 And what's the point of having 18 extra amps on stage? The show was/is loud enough as it is. If those Marshalls WERE real then people would be bleeding from their ears, and there's no way that those Marshall amps were real at the Terminal 5 shows because they all would have had mics to pickup the sound from them.
 
 Their whole stage set-up is fake, the Amps and giant synthesizer. They've admitted to it... not like it's a huge surprise. It's a show... Did you know Daft Punk's pyramid is only half a pyramid!? ZOMG! [/b]
you have horrible taste in music
Title: Re: Anybody else counting down the days to Justice?
Post by: DeathFromAbove1979 on March 13, 2008, 03:19:00 pm
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Originally posted by manimtired:
   
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Originally posted by DeathFromAbove1979:
   
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Originally posted by kosmo:
  let's hope justice remembers to pack backup dat players and tapes      :p    
From the balcony you could clearly see that Justice totally recreates their music on stage. I was blown away, I was pissed I was on the balcony but I actually got tos ee how they were working. They have their light controls in the middle in between them and then each have 2 touch screens and midi controllers under each screen, and in the middle they have a sequence of knobs that Xavier was using heavily which is when I realized that he was actually recreating the music from those knobs and buttons. I was blown away, hate on them as much as you want but I was wayy more impressed once I saw this. Granted they probably had lots of stuff pre-mixed, but ther's sstill a good chunk of teamwork that goes into it to re-produce a lot of music and to improvise.
 
 And what's the point of having 18 extra amps on stage? The show was/is loud enough as it is. If those Marshalls WERE real then people would be bleeding from their ears, and there's no way that those Marshall amps were real at the Terminal 5 shows because they all would have had mics to pickup the sound from them.
 
 Their whole stage set-up is fake, the Amps and giant synthesizer. They've admitted to it... not like it's a huge surprise. It's a show... Did you know Daft Punk's pyramid is only half a pyramid!? ZOMG! [/b]
you have horrible taste in music [/b]
You can say that, Im not gonna argue with you. I love electronica, but believe me the 33 gigs of music on my computer is not entirely electronica. I go to live shows to be entertained and to see my favorite groups live. You people seem to go there JUST to complain about it later. That show was amazing and it was a blast, the least you could say is that you danced a bit. But no you peolpe have to nitpick about everythnig. Yeah, Justice is popular and a ton of people want to see them. You people come off like you're owed your own special tiny little venue when it's just you and your elitist friends or something.
 
 Not to justify anything but my most played bands on my iTunes are as goes: QOTSA, Spoon, Klaxons, M.I.A., Muse, Kings of Leon, Devendra Banhart, and Arctic Monkeys.
 
 So before you go judging a book by its cover, suck a dick.
Title: Re: Anybody else counting down the days to Justice?
Post by: sweetcell on March 13, 2008, 03:23:00 pm
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Originally posted by DeathFromAbove1979:
 From the balcony you could clearly see that Justice totally recreates their music on stage.
they were indeed "totally recreating their music on stage", then again pressing play on a CD also totally recreates music  :p   they were using software called Ableton Live in which they have individual instrument tracks (bass, kick, vocal, synth #1, synth #2, etc) that they can mute/unmute, loop, re-sample, etc.  other than an occasional synth line, they were only remixing up there.  
 
 was anyone at both the sonar and the 930 show?  were the setlists different?
 
 
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Originally posted by DeathFromAbove1979:
 and in the middle they have a sequence of knobs that Xavier was using heavily which is when I realized that he was actually recreating the music from those knobs and buttons.
those knobs and buttons are mapped to Live.  buttons = mute/unmute of a track or start/stop of a sample, knobs = volume or EQ.
 
 
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Originally posted by DeathFromAbove1979:
 And what's the point of having 18 extra amps on stage? The show was/is loud enough as it is. If those Marshalls WERE real then people would be bleeding from their ears, and there's no way that those Marshall amps were real at the Terminal 5 shows because they all would have had mics to pickup the sound from them.
they were "real" marshalls in NYC, they just weren't plugged in.  last night, they weren't even real marshalls.  in the end it doesn't make a different, since they're never plugged... i guess it comes down to cost - if they're not going to use them to pump out sound, then why bother paying for actual cabinets with speakers?
Title: Re: Anybody else counting down the days to Justice?
Post by: 930clubber on March 13, 2008, 03:25:00 pm
i thought the marshalls were real until the lighting inside the cabinets came on.
 
 the 930 has a plenty loud and crisp sound system.  the marshalls would have been overkill.
 
 as for why, maybe you need to brush up on your semiotics theory.
Title: Re: Anybody else counting down the days to Justice?
Post by: DeathFromAbove1979 on March 13, 2008, 03:29:00 pm
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Originally posted by sweetcell:
   
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Originally posted by DeathFromAbove1979:
 From the balcony you could clearly see that Justice totally recreates their music on stage.
they were indeed "totally recreating their music on stage", then again pressing play on a CD also totally recreates music   :p    they were using software called Ableton Live in which they have individual instrument tracks (bass, kick, vocal, synth #1, synth #2, etc) that they can mute/unmute, loop, re-sample, etc.  other than an occasional synth line, they were only remixing up there.  
 
 was anyone at both the sonar and the 930 show?  were the setlists different?
 
   
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Originally posted by DeathFromAbove1979:
 and in the middle they have a sequence of knobs that Xavier was using heavily which is when I realized that he was actually recreating the music from those knobs and buttons.
those knobs and buttons are mapped to Live.  buttons = mute/unmute of a track or start/stop of a sample, knobs = volume or EQ.
 
   
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Originally posted by DeathFromAbove1979:
 And what's the point of having 18 extra amps on stage? The show was/is loud enough as it is. If those Marshalls WERE real then people would be bleeding from their ears, and there's no way that those Marshall amps were real at the Terminal 5 shows because they all would have had mics to pickup the sound from them.
they were "real" marshalls in NYC, they just weren't plugged in.  last night, they weren't even real marshalls.  in the end it doesn't make a different, since they're never plugged... i guess it comes down to cost - if they're not going to use them to pump out sound, then why bother paying for actual cabinets with speakers? [/b]
I don't think Justice uses Ableton, but I wouldn't be suprised if they did. They've admitted using Garage Band. And there were no cds in play last night, clearly they are using computer and I didnt mean COMPLETELY re-creating their music but even if they aer "just remixing" you CANNOT tell me that it's not impressive. I know that there are definetly better live remixers out there, but they are hot and since they are hot the shit talk and haters will come out in droves [admit that] but they are definetly on top of what game they have right now. They can definetly improve and in time I don't doubt that they will be, even though they sort of already are, one of the elites out there. And I was at the Baltimore show, the sets were the same, but with any duo of their caliber their set rarely changes through a tour. MSTRKRFT, Digitalism, Simian Mobile Disco, Felix Da Housecat. They all use the same set day in and day out. Granted they might have a few different sets to play and over time they'll move tracks and switch tracks out but it's usually the same. And from both shows every here and there was a different little mix, but I wasn't going in expecting a completely different show. Just like most bands they have the same setlist throughout a tour.
 
 Either way I really enjoyed the shows and am really glad I got to see them. It just makes me sad to see all this hate is all. I never get mad on this message board. So sad.
Title: Re: Anybody else counting down the days to Justice?
Post by: eros on March 13, 2008, 03:40:00 pm
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Originally posted by samsfresh5:
 This is hilarious. Did it ever occur to you that maybe the band decides when they go on and off?  This is like bitching about the "930 Club's photo policy" ..the ARTIST decides this, not the club, and it varies night to night based on what the ARTIST wants.  So the next time instead of being "real dicks" about it, I'll talk to Thatguy about it and maybe he can pull the plug on the artist at 11:45 so that you can catch the metro.     ;)  
 
 Thanks for your well-thought-out ideas!
Have you ever seen contracts that bands sign with promoters (I haven't)?  I can imagine there is something in there that tells them when they have to go on and at least how long they have to play.
Title: Re: Anybody else counting down the days to Justice?
Post by: Giles on March 13, 2008, 03:54:00 pm
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Originally posted by DeathFromAbove1979:
   
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Originally posted by manimtired:
   
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Originally posted by DeathFromAbove1979:
     
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Originally posted by kosmo:
  let's hope justice remembers to pack backup dat players and tapes       :p    
From the balcony you could clearly see that Justice totally recreates their music on stage. I was blown away, I was pissed I was on the balcony but I actually got tos ee how they were working. They have their light controls in the middle in between them and then each have 2 touch screens and midi controllers under each screen, and in the middle they have a sequence of knobs that Xavier was using heavily which is when I realized that he was actually recreating the music from those knobs and buttons. I was blown away, hate on them as much as you want but I was wayy more impressed once I saw this. Granted they probably had lots of stuff pre-mixed, but ther's sstill a good chunk of teamwork that goes into it to re-produce a lot of music and to improvise.
 
 And what's the point of having 18 extra amps on stage? The show was/is loud enough as it is. If those Marshalls WERE real then people would be bleeding from their ears, and there's no way that those Marshall amps were real at the Terminal 5 shows because they all would have had mics to pickup the sound from them.
 
 Their whole stage set-up is fake, the Amps and giant synthesizer. They've admitted to it... not like it's a huge surprise. It's a show... Did you know Daft Punk's pyramid is only half a pyramid!? ZOMG! [/b]
you have horrible taste in music [/b]
You can say that, Im not gonna argue with you. I love electronica, but believe me the 33 gigs of music on my computer is not entirely electronica. I go to live shows to be entertained and to see my favorite groups live. You people seem to go there JUST to complain about it later. That show was amazing and it was a blast, the least you could say is that you danced a bit. But no you peolpe have to nitpick about everythnig. Yeah, Justice is popular and a ton of people want to see them. You people come off like you're owed your own special tiny little venue when it's just you and your elitist friends or something.
 
 Not to justify anything but my most played bands on my iTunes are as goes: QOTSA, Spoon, Klaxons, M.I.A., Muse, Kings of Leon, Devendra Banhart, and Arctic Monkeys.
 
 So before you go judging a book by its cover, suck a dick. [/b]
the only dick I saw was the one audience member purposefully shoving folk - what a fucktard.  Douches like that aren't there for the music, they're there just to make trouble and ruin the concert experience.
Title: Re: Anybody else counting down the days to Justice?
Post by: sweetcell on March 13, 2008, 03:58:00 pm
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Originally posted by DeathFromAbove1979:
 So before you go judging a book by its cover, suck a dick.
you're a street-teamer for the B-52s, aren't you?  :p
Title: Re: Anybody else counting down the days to Justice?
Post by: eros on March 13, 2008, 03:59:00 pm
This thread is making me more and more happy that I sold my tickets.
Title: Re: Anybody else counting down the days to Justice?
Post by: samsfresh5 on March 13, 2008, 04:00:00 pm
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Originally posted by eros:
 Have you ever seen contracts that bands sign with promoters (I haven't)?  I can imagine there is something in there that tells them when they have to go on and at least how long they have to play.
I have, and I've even signed some of them, but I was not privy to what their exact contract was.  ...and I see where you're going with that, but however, without getting into a big discussion about how the contracts could be better written, adhered to, enforced, etc., it basically boils down to this... I just think it's pretty lame of someone to start bashing the 930 Club about when a band goes on or off the stage.  ...and also, not to go into great detail, but the fact is, the opening artist was late and missed their going on time, so he was bumped.  Then the other artists made adjustments to get him on, and subsequently, the headliner went on later than orginially scheduled.. again, this was all between the artists and I don't think the club had much do do with it.  ...So the fact that the artist went on late... and ended late.. and someone comes in and blames the 930 club for "being dicks" and not considering it's patrons.. is pretty stupid as far as I'm concerned.. The 930 Club didn't win awards for best nightclub venue for being dicks to their patrons.
Title: Re: Anybody else counting down the days to Justice?
Post by: DeathFromAbove1979 on March 13, 2008, 04:00:00 pm
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Originally posted by Giles:
  the only dick I saw was the one audience member purposefully shoving folk - what a fucktard.  Douches like that aren't there for the music, they're there just to make trouble and ruin the concert experience.
Alright, we canbotha gree the reason we go to live shows is to see our favorite bands, or whatever, live and to be entertained. And on that note, were you not entertained? Aside from them "playing cds" the whole night the show was spectactular! At every show there will be cocksuckers to ruin it, but thats to be expected whether you can see them or not.
 
 ♥
Title: Re: Anybody else counting down the days to Justice?
Post by: Giles on March 13, 2008, 04:02:00 pm
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Originally posted by samsfresh5:
   
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Originally posted by eros:
 Have you ever seen contracts that bands sign with promoters (I haven't)?  I can imagine there is something in there that tells them when they have to go on and at least how long they have to play.
I have, and I've even signed some of them, but I was not privy to what their exact contract was.  ...and I see where you're going with that, but however, without getting into a big discussion about how the contracts could be better written, adhered to, enforced, etc., it basically boils down to this... I just think it's pretty lame of someone to start bashing the 930 Club about when a band goes on or off the stage.  ...and also, not to go into great detail, but the fact is, the opening artist was late and missed their going on time, so he was bumped.  Then the other artists made adjustments to get him on, and subsequently, the headliner went on later than orginially scheduled.. again, this was all between the artists and I don't think the club had much do do with it.  ...So the fact that the artist went on late... and ended late.. and someone comes in and blames the 930 club for "being dicks" and not considering it's patrons.. is pretty stupid as far as I'm concerned.. The 930 Club didn't win awards for best nightclub venue for being dicks to their patrons. [/b]
yet the inclusion of Wale boggles the mind ... so what happens to bands that show up late, cause time slots to get bounced at those clubs that have curfew/sound ordinances - I'm sure it's sorry charlie.
Title: Re: Anybody else counting down the days to Justice?
Post by: Giles on March 13, 2008, 04:09:00 pm
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Originally posted by DeathFromAbove1979:
   
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  the only dick I saw was the one audience member purposefully shoving folk - what a fucktard.  Douches like that aren't there for the music, they're there just to make trouble and ruin the concert experience.
Alright, we canbotha gree the reason we go to live shows is to see our favorite bands, or whatever, live and to be entertained. And on that note, were you not entertained? Aside from them "playing cds" the whole night the show was spectactular! At every show there will be cocksuckers to ruin it, but thats to be expected whether you can see them or not.
 
 ♥ [/b]
oh sure the show was entertaining - I just wish I had a taser to juice the fucker.
Title: Re: Anybody else counting down the days to Justice?
Post by: DeathFromAbove1979 on March 13, 2008, 04:11:00 pm
Oh did anyoen pick up one of the special edition posters? I thought it would be more expensive, it was 10 bucks for either gold or silver. I got the last gold one. I felt kinda special.
Title: Re: Anybody else counting down the days to Justice?
Post by: 930clubber on March 13, 2008, 04:32:00 pm
WA LAY is a dick for being late.  Tolerable and eccentric when you're big and established; unforgivable whilst rising.  :mad:
Title: Re: Anybody else counting down the days to Justice?
Post by: samsfresh5 on March 13, 2008, 06:17:00 pm
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Originally posted by Giles:
  yet the inclusion of Wale boggles the mind ... so what happens to bands that show up late, cause time slots to get bounced at those clubs that have curfew/sound ordinances - I'm sure it's sorry charlie.
If by "inclusion" you mean Wale being on that bill.. that's a matter of opinion.. and judging by the responses on this board, it seems most would agree with you. However, that was also not a bill that was put together by 930.. it was a "MySpace Presents" show.. they put it together, not the "930 dicks". But if you mean "inclusion" in the show after he was late.. well, again, I'm pretty sure it was the other acts' decision to have him slip in between what was supposed to be the second act and the headliner.  I wasn't involved in it, but from what I overheard, the 930 crew bumped him because he was so late, but then the other acts tried to make room for him to perform a shortened set than what he was originally set to perform. (I could be wrong on this, but that's the way it seemed from where I was working.) So, by doing that, it made the show run later than originally anticipated. Not longer than the curfew is for that venue on a Wednesday night (which I'm not sure what that is, but I know its later than 11:45) Had the curfew been in jeopardy of being crossed and the headliner would've had to cut short their set, I'm sure it would have been "sorry charlie" and I have seen that happen before.
 
 Whatever.. my point still remains that to come in here and make a statement that it's all the 930's fault and that they somehow either neglected to think of metro riders when they booked this show, or that they were careless in when they put the acts on the stage which made the show run to 12:10 instead of ending at 11:45 ... and calling us all "dicks" is ridiculous.  Did you bother to ask any of the staph there last night why that happened before you ran home to your computer? Because I have a hard time thinking that you would've ran up to one of them and started telling them how big of dicks they are because the show started and went late.  That's all I'm saying.. before you start slinging fuck words and calling people dicks from your keyboard, you may want to find out how it all works first.
Title: Re: Anybody else counting down the days to Justice?
Post by: grover.37 on March 13, 2008, 06:21:00 pm
An incoherent review I wrote for another board:
 
 The whole set was only 55 minutes but it was segued nonstop beats and it was hot.  They kind of went off stage after the main set and came back for another 15-20 minutes to finish the set.  They came back for a second encore and did Master of Puppets.  It was so much different I didn't even recognize it (that and I haven't listed to Master of Puppets in 10 years).  The segues were usually ridiculous and I thought a lot of the improv was better than the actual songs.  DANCE was jammed out at the end and Party sounded *very* different.  I welcomed both of these changes as I absolutely hate those two songs.  I wish I knew the song names a bit better so I could place them while at the show.  Sorry I couldn't help anymore...  Dogfish Indian Brown was flowing (as always) and I didn't make it to work today until 11:10.  Good night.
 
 The opening DJ was pretty good and I would recommend getting there early for him if he's opening.  These two black d00ds (Wale) apparently missed their opening spot   and had to play after the DJ.  They definitely pushed Justice back because they started when Justice was supposed to come on.  These guys were a fucking joke.  It was a guy on turntables and a rapper/MC.  They opened with Jump On It   and honestly half the set was If ya black/white/college student/broke/etc. make some NOIIIZZEEEE!!!   They even fucking closed (their 20 min set) with DANCE.  I couldn't fucking believe they were playing the headliners songs half an hour before they would play it.         Luckily, the pain soon stopped and the crowd got super restless.  
 
 This was by far the stupidest crowd I have ever seen.  The place was sold out, yet it was about half full upstairs.  We had a perfect view of the floor from the second balcony and the crowd was swaying back and forth while waiting for Justice.  People were pushing and shoving and it was a general mess.  Kids were crowdsurfing and it looked amazingly uncomfortable down there.  Stupid ass hipster youngsters don't know any better.  Meanwhile, Lisa, Pearce, and I had room to get down and never waited for a beer or the bathroom.  Fucking Myspace Tour.
Title: Re: Anybody else counting down the days to Justice?
Post by: DeathFromAbove1979 on March 13, 2008, 07:05:00 pm
The fisrt dj was Busy P, or Pedro.
 
 He's Daft Punk's manager and I thought his set, while mixing seemed to be a non factor for him, was solid.
Title: Re: Anybody else counting down the days to Justice?
Post by: cernoch79 on March 13, 2008, 07:19:00 pm
I really enjoyed the show last night.
 
 Thanks to everyone that got a poster last night.
 
 I have a few left, but not many, if anyone didn't get one or missed the show.  You can get them here.
  Justice Posters for Washington DC (http://www.cernochdesign.com/STORE.html)
 
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Title: Re: Anybody else counting down the days to Justice?
Post by: mattmattstone on March 13, 2008, 09:46:00 pm
I had a pretty killer time. I was really impressed with Justice and visually the whole thing was pretty mind blowing. Although my one complaint was this drunk asshole and his girlfriend who were grinding me into the metal wall thing, I have a pretty serious bruise on my right hip.
Title: Re: Anybody else counting down the days to Justice?
Post by: sweetcell on March 14, 2008, 09:01:00 am
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Originally posted by DeathFromAbove1979:
  The fisrt dj was Busy P, or Pedro.
 
 He's Daft Punk's manager and I thought his set, while mixing seemed to be a non factor for him, was solid.
his mixing was indeed good, but with credentials like that you'd think he'd have access to better tracks than the trumpet-synth-driven wannabe rave anthems he was going with for a while... PAPA DAPADA PAAAA PAAAAAA!  PAPA DAPADA PAAAA PAAAAAA!  ugh.  didn't the robots teach him anything about layering, subtlety, complexity?  maybe i'm just being too harsh.  people seemed to be enjoying him, for the most part.
Title: Re: Anybody else counting down the days to Justice?
Post by: DeathFromAbove1979 on March 14, 2008, 12:23:00 pm
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Originally posted by sweetcell:
   
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Originally posted by DeathFromAbove1979:
  The fisrt dj was Busy P, or Pedro.
 
 He's Daft Punk's manager and I thought his set, while mixing seemed to be a non factor for him, was solid.
his mixing was indeed good, but with credentials like that you'd think he'd have access to better tracks than the trumpet-synth-driven wannabe rave anthems he was going with for a while... PAPA DAPADA PAAAA PAAAAAA!  PAPA DAPADA PAAAA PAAAAAA!  ugh.  didn't the robots teach him anything about layering, subtlety, complexity?  maybe i'm just being too harsh.  people seemed to be enjoying him, for the most part. [/b]
Yeah that was pretty much my only complaint with his set, I enjoyed his track selection because I knew just about every track he spun. I think the track you're referring to, indeed if it is the trumpet driven one, is "Big Money Comin'" by Crookers. I love that track.... haha
Title: Re: Anybody else counting down the days to Justice?
Post by: Giles on March 17, 2008, 03:39:00 pm
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Originally posted by samsfresh5:
 That's all I'm saying.. before you start slinging fuck words and calling people dicks from your keyboard, you may want to find out how it all works first. [/QB]
if you talking about me, I've gotten over the lateness of the show, but I can still call someone a 'dick' who is shoving and pushing people for no apparent reason other than to be a 'dick'
Title: Re: Anybody else counting down the days to Justice?
Post by: sweetcell on March 21, 2008, 01:10:00 pm
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Originally posted by Giles:
   
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Originally posted by samsfresh5:
 That's all I'm saying.. before you start slinging fuck words and calling people dicks from your keyboard, you may want to find out how it all works first.
if you talking about me, I've gotten over the lateness of the show, but I can still call someone a 'dick' who is shoving and pushing people for no apparent reason other than to be a 'dick' [/b]
i believe sam was referring to when you called 930 organizers "dicks" because of the late finish time, something they don't always have control over:
   
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Originally posted by Giles:
 you couldn't move the bands a half hour earlier - thanks for screwing up my night... and now I have to factor in cab money - thanks a fuckin' lot (which could have gone to say a drink or two... but oh no, you guys can be real dicks when it comes to timing this and other prior concerts [Sunday-Thursday] just right so it goes beyond the last subway of the night - that is really a rude dis-service to us who don't own cars and depend on public transit
Title: Re: Anybody else counting down the days to Justice?
Post by: sweetcell on March 21, 2008, 01:11:00 pm
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 this is what a justice set should be like - in a dance club, not a concert venue, and packed but not so much so that ones has no space to dance.  and speaking of, justice will be spinning at this same little club on thursday, after their show.  i'm tempted to go - while i'm over justice's live show, i'd be interested in hearing what they spin.  unfortunately they won't be behind the decks until midnight or 1 am, and i need to be functional the next day... dammit.  might need to call upon ye olde disco nap.
new rule: Justice dj sets only.
 
 as i've said before, i'm over their "live" show.  but based on their dj set last night, these frenchies are still very relevant to my musical interests.  they spun at the same small club (sonotheque) as SMD, which was just as packed, just as hot, and just as much fun.  they played mostly classic house with elements of disco and hip hop thrown in.  by "classic" i mean classic for me, because my personal "classic" period of clubbing was 95-98 and they sounds Justice provided came straight from that time for the most part.  they dropped van Helden's "professional widow" remix, which i haven't heard in almost a decade - put a huge smile on my face.  the highlight of their set, for me, was a screwed up remix of the stones' "you can't always get what your want" - genius.  their souped-up version of "phantom #2" had people scrapping themselves off the ceiling afterwards.  
 
 a staple of any justice set is their breaking of local no-smoking ordinances and last night was no different.  the DJ booth was mostly enclosed in plexiglass, so they and their entourage were essentially hot-boxing the booth with nicotine... SWEET.  joe and rhett will be disappointed to learn that gaspard and xavier are not buff, in fact they are rather scrawny.  they hung out in front of the club after their set and were very approachable.  i was expecting otherwise, so a pleasant surprise.  
 
 i can't decide whose dj set i enjoyed more, SMD or justice's.  last night had just a shred more energy, was a tad more visceral and a little less cerebral, but i have a very slight preference for the music that SMD spun.  maybe.  essentially a draw, both nights were excellent.
 
 did someone say "justice"?!?
 
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