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=> GENERAL DISCUSSION => Topic started by: redsock on July 18, 2003, 04:21:00 pm
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Man, has everyone really crapped out? There is no activity on the board today. You'd think the club went and scheduled Jason Mraz and Liz Phair togather or something and we all stopped caring about music cause it is clearly all about the money. Oh wait, they did and we have. Well, maybe not completely stopped caring.
Seriously folks I need new bands, great albums....recently talked up artists like Postal Service and Longwave now have a home in my cd player cause of you all...wake up for christs sake!
I guess I'll see you all tomorrow at the Blur show, I'll be the guy up front trying to prevent my short GF and her sister from getting squashed by pogoing Damon fans! Oh what fun!
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Originally posted by redsock:
by pogoing Damon fans!
His name is Markie, and if you ask him nicely to stop he'll tell you to bugger off.
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Okay then, I've got questions, not so much advice. What's the word on Super Furry Animals? Their albums are fabulously reviewed, but I'm not sure I fully get what they're about, and I don't know anyone who listens to them.
Other bands I keep hearing about and which get great reviews are Longwave and Cursive. Can anyone fill me in on these with more than "they're great!"?
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Originally posted by vansmack:
Originally posted by redsock:
by pogoing Damon fans!
His name is Markie, and if you ask him nicely to stop he'll tell you to bugger off. [/b]
Oh yes, that is me. Sorry.
Dancing at a rock show....... remind me never to do that again. Really if they dont like being bouced into, the front of a sold out 930 show might not be the best place to stand. Instead of asking the pogoers to stop, just accept defeat and move to the back or balcony.
Or stellar idea, why not just pogo right back.
I think I will wear the girls and boys backprint T tomorrow, Lulu promises to wear oasis whats the story T.
For new music,
try the tyde, how many times do I have to say that?
I love the new Adam Green album, but that is probably an aquired taste.
get to CDwow.net and get the new dandy Warhols album.
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Two words: Pernice Brothers.
Five more words: Best album of the year.
And go see Rhett Miller at the Black Cat. I promise he will give even a big straight guy like you a hard-on.
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Originally posted by bags:
Other bands I keep hearing about and which get great reviews are Longwave and Cursive. Can anyone fill me in on these with more than "they're great!"?
Super Furry Animals,
I didnt like their older albums so much, but I only ever gave them a brief listen. They put on a good live show, although the last 930 show was a bit dissappointing. But Rings around the world was just the sound of last summer to me. It is such a happy upbeat beatlesesque sunny romp that only the braindead (mjnova) wouldnt be charmed by it.
I refuse to be a cursive or longwave fan.
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We also learned that Neil Young is a legend, Uncle Tupelo is getting there, and John Lydon is a Republican.
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Originally posted by Rhett Miller:
Two words: Pernice Brothers.
really? I am not that keen. I bet the new grandaddy album is better and I only know two songs off of it.
I mean I think Pernice Brothers are OK, but a little average sounding.... If you try really hard you can get people to believe Teenage fanclub, Grand Prix is the Pernice Brothers first album.......
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Originally posted by Rhett Miller:
And go see Rhett Miller at the Black Cat. I promise he will give even a big straight guy like you a hard-on.
That makes sense, everytime i read one of your posts i get one.
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Originally posted by Rhett Miller:
Lyndon Johnson is a Republican.
what else did they teach you in hick school?
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Originally posted by the scientist:
Originally posted by vansmack:
[qb] Originally posted by redsock:
[qb] For new music,
try the tyde, how many times do I have to say that?
I love the new Adam Green album, but that is probably an aquired taste.
get to CDwow.net and get the new dandy Warhols album. [/b]
Markie, I was specifically not bringing up the Tyde, as when I posted the Velvet Lounge date you told me to sssshhhhhhhhhhh.....let's keep the crowds away (though now that I think of it, a Monday show will be a tough sell, though I will definitely be there after fort reno).
By the way, this was written for the LA Weekly by a friend of mine, and I think it's a great profile. The last paragraph, a quote, is my credo as well, except that I listen to music rather than play it!
The Sound of Waves
The Tyde: Forward into the ??80s
Darren Rademaker knows what he likes. Given the choice between good songs or flashy musical trends, the leader of the Tyde will always take the tunes.
??It??s like, are you a style band or a substance band?? he muses over a cold bottle of Miller High Life. ??Are you really into music, or do you just want to be famous and have sex with a lot of random girls? Being famous and having sex with a lot of random girls is totally fun, but after you??re 29 or 30, are you still gonna care about music??
Rademaker??s 41st birthday is already receding in the rearview mirror, and he, for one, still cares about music. The audible proof is Twice, the Tyde??s new record for Rough Trade America; a veritable feast of crystalline guitars, rollicking keyboards, catchy melodies and wry lyrics, Twice more than fulfills the promise of Once, the L.A. band??s acclaimed 2001 debut.
As with Once, the 11 tracks on Twice ?? Rademaker categorically denies that the next Tyde album will be called Three Times a Lady ?? offer up a tart mixture of human frailty and California sunshine. But this time out the mid-??60s Dylanisms and ??cosmic country? vibes of the first album have been jettisoned in favor of the ringing pop sounds of such ??80s cult faves as Felt, Galaxie 500 and Television Personalities.
??I had the idea to go back and explore our indie roots, whatever they were,? Rademaker explains. ??Kind of like, ??Let??s move it out of the ??60s and ??70s and into the early ??80s.?? But not into the cheesy ??80s that everybody??s into; no punk-funk or electroclash!?
Though much of Twice??s music is quite chipper, Rademaker??s lyrics ?? which he delivers in a plain but pleasing voice somewhere between Lou Reed and Echo and the Bunnymen??s Ian McCullough ?? are considerably darker than on the last album. ??A Loner,? ??Best Intentions? and the KCRW semi-hit ??Blood Brothers? all reek of disappointment and abdicated responsibility, while ??Crystal Canyons? and ??Breaking Up the Band? deal with the less-than-glamorous results of sustained drug abuse.
??I know so many idiots who used to be so brilliant, and then they got involved with crystal meth,? Rademaker says. ??People that were really good friends of mine that died. Or they??re writing good songs, but they??ll never be able to do anything with them because they??ll never be able to get it together from one thought to the next.?
Not that Rademaker??s own habits are exempt from scrutiny. ??Henry VIII? examines his love-hate relationship with marijuana. ??Yeah, it??s a song about trying to quit smoking pot,? he laughs. ??When I go surfing in Dana Point, I drive down PCH and go, ??There??s no way I??ll ever be able to afford any of these houses.?? But maybe if I wasn??t such a dope-smoker I??d have become just a regular guy.?
Regrets? Rademaker has a few. But when your music has earned you raves from your well-respected peers ?? Jason Pierce of Spiritualized and Teenage Fanclub??s Norman Blake among them ?? and your band is getting ready to mount a summer tour that will encompass the U.S., the U.K. and much of Europe, life as an irregular guy doesn??t seem so bad.
??My secret is that I??ve never given in to regular society, that ??Why don??t you give up that stupid music??? thing,? he says. ??I love doing music, and I don??t care if I have to live in a shitty one-bedroom apartment for the rest of my life to do what I want. You have to look around and say, ??Am I happy? Am I listening to some good tunes??? You can always get by if you want to.?
- Dan Epstein
June 20-26, 2003
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Originally posted by the scientist:
Originally posted by bags:
[qb]
I refuse to be a cursive or longwave fan. [/b]
Why?
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So that Teenage Fanclub album is just average then? I shouldn't invest the $7.98 that Amazon wants for a new copy?
This is actually Joe Pernice's 8th album.
I don't think his voice sounds like any of the three singers in Teenage Fanclub.
Originally posted by the scientist:
Originally posted by Rhett Miller:
Two words: Pernice Brothers.
really? I am not that keen. I bet the new grandaddy album is better and I only know two songs off of it.
I mean I think Pernice Brothers are OK, but a little average sounding.... If you try really hard you can get people to believe Teenage fanclub, Grand Prix is the Pernice Brothers first album....... [/b]
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This is what should be in your CD player - And make sure you pick up their last album Secaucus:
New Wrens Album Finally Gets Release Date
Partridge Family needs to get act together
Rod Waterman reports:
The Wrens just might be the best band you've never heard of. Fortunately, after a significant hiatus since 1996's Secaucus, they're back with a new album-- one that rivals their best work to date. The Meadowlands is set to drop September 9th via Absolutely Kosher Records, also home to Pinback and The Jim Yoshii Pile-Up. The kink in this story is that AbKosh has had the album available on its website since January in a limited edition format with four bonus tracks-- outtakes from various sessions during the 90s. And you can still get it that way, for a time, but when they're gone, you won't have another chance to get ahold of the disc until September, and even then it's just the standard 13-track edition. Don't think you won't regret it. Tracklist:
01 The House That Guilt Built
02 Happy
03 She Sends Kisses
04 This Boy Is Exhausted
05 Hopeless
06 Faster Gun
07 Thirteen Grand
08 Boys, You Won't
09 Ex-Girl Collection
10 Per Second Second
11 Everyone Choose Sides
12 13 Months In 6 Minutes
13 This Is Not What You Have Planned
Bonus tracks:
14 splitter #7: Fireworks/James, I Wanna (1997)
15 Our Brightest New Year (1995)
16 Green Tides (1992)
17 Blue Lips (1992)
The Wrens formed back in the late 80s, eventually securing a residency as the house band on a ferry. Weird. Their website claims they were fired for playing a cover of "Debaser" to the old peeps. Now, I'd rather hear The Wrens play "Debaser" than "catch a soap" any day of the week, but then, I'm not 170, and there's no accounting for taste, a lesson we must sadly learn and re-learn every day of the week.
The Wrens lived together for ten years in Secaucus, NJ, and have been making records since 1993 in their basement-- from their first single "Low" (1993) to their first album Silver (1994) and the pretty much classic Secaucus (1996). Things got sticky around the time of Secaucus, though, when the once venerable Grass Records dropped like their entire roster to become Wind-Up Records. You know Wind-Up Records. They have Creed.
But, after having endured their share of bad label relationships in the interim, The Wrens have finally signed on with Absolutely Kosher, which can only be a good thing. They've been overlooked for entirely too long. And speaking of overlooking things (especially that tall-ass fucker with the cranial graphics directly in front of you), the band will be playing some East Coast dates in August and September. So if you're hoping to do just that-- and live over d'ere-- check:
08-22 Brooklyn, NY - North Six
09-12 New York, NY - Mercury Lounge (album release show)
09-18 Boston, MA - The Plan
09-19 Hamilton, NY - Colgate College
09-22 New York, NY - Bowery Ballroom
09-26 Swarthmore, PA - Swarthmore College
.: Pitchfork Review: The Wrens: Secaucus
.: The Wrens: http://www.wrens.com (http://www.wrens.com)
.: Absolutely Kosher: http://www.absolutelykosher.com/ (http://www.absolutelykosher.com/)
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Originally posted by ggw:
This is what should be in your CD player - And make sure you pick up their last album Secaucus:
New Wrens Album Finally Gets Release Date
Partridge Family needs to get act together
Rod Waterman reports:
Read something about them, they sounded interesting. Maybe I'll pick up their new album.
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Originally posted by bags:
Originally posted by the scientist:
Originally posted by bags:
[qb]
I refuse to be a cursive or longwave fan. [/b]
Why? [/b]
jadetree/bob Pollard like them.
I have listened to Cursive and it just makes me long for the more melodic better produced Sparta.
I dont really know much of longwave they play one song on WOXY, but it didnt do anything for me.
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Originally posted by Rhett Miller:
So that Teenage Fanclub album is just average then?
Its Ok I dont know it that well and I have had it years. Lulu noticed the similarity not me.
They have Grand Prix and bandwagonesque at olsons for 7.99 each. Along with a few new releases like Grandaddy at 11.99. I wish I had bought a copy.
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Originally posted by redsock:
Originally posted by ggw:
This is what should be in your CD player - And make sure you pick up their last album Secaucus:
New Wrens Album Finally Gets Release Date
Partridge Family needs to get act together
Rod Waterman reports:
Read something about them, they sounded interesting. Maybe I'll pick up their new album. [/b]
Well if you don't feel like waiting until September, Secaucus is one of the most criminally underappreciated albums of all time.
http://www.stormloader.com/iago/rev/music/wrens1.html (http://www.stormloader.com/iago/rev/music/wrens1.html)
http://www.uwm.edu/~jenor/Wrensrev.html (http://www.uwm.edu/~jenor/Wrensrev.html)
http://www.pitchforkmedia.com/record-reviews/w/wrens/secaucus.shtml (http://www.pitchforkmedia.com/record-reviews/w/wrens/secaucus.shtml)
http://www.consciouschoice.com/music/c094wrenssecaucus.html (http://www.consciouschoice.com/music/c094wrenssecaucus.html)
http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/detail/-/B000005B3X/ref=cm_cr_dp_2_1/103-3962491-3770222?v=glance&s=music&vi=customer-reviews (http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/detail/-/B000005B3X/ref=cm_cr_dp_2_1/103-3962491-3770222?v=glance&s=music&vi=customer-reviews)
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Anyone going to the Siren Festival at Coney Island? Will be interesting to see Idlewild... again, though the setting (tens of thousands of festival goers who may not necessarily be there to see them) is a little more familiar to them. Wasn't all that interested, but the weather forecast is for sunny day so figured what the hell. Leaving at 8:00 tonight, hoping to get to Soho before 1:00. See yas
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Originally posted by Rhett Miller:
Two words: Pernice Brothers.
Five more words: Best album of the year.
And go see Rhett Miller at the Black Cat. I promise he will give even a big straight guy like you a hard-on.
Okay, okay. I just got verification from one of my offline music sources that I will love Pernice Bros. I had to check! I will now buy.
And alas, I will be in Germany when (the real) Rhett Miller is in D.C. Always the way....
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Originally posted by the scientist:
If you try really hard you can get people to believe Teenage fanclub, Grand Prix is the Pernice Brothers first album.......
yeah, if you let them smoke from your crack pipe
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Originally posted by Relaxer:
See yas
let us know what it is like.....
I wanted to go, but got distracted by blur....
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Originally posted by ggw:
This is what should be in your CD player - And make sure you pick up their last album Secaucus:
New Wrens Album Finally Gets Release Date
Partridge Family needs to get act together
Rod Waterman reports:
You see, this is serendipity. I just last night was talking to a friend who asked if I knew about the Wrens -- he'd read a feature on them in Magnet and they just sounded like cool guys, with a sound we'd probably like. I had him pick up *my* copy of Magnet, which has "the wrens" written on the back cover, by me, so I'd remember to find out more about them.
Hmm, so interesting.
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Originally posted by Celeste:
yeah, if you let them smoke from your crack pipe [/QB][/QUOTE]
well I dont actully have a crack pipe, perhaps they bought their own?
sounds similar enough to me. But what do I know I am just an egotistical liberal, apparently.
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Originally posted by Relaxer:
Anyone going to the Siren Festival at Coney Island? Will be interesting to see Idlewild... again, though the setting (tens of thousands of festival goers who may not necessarily be there to see them) is a little more familiar to them. Wasn't all that interested, but the weather forecast is for sunny day so figured what the hell. Leaving at 8:00 tonight, hoping to get to Soho before 1:00. See yas
Leaving early AM tomorrow.
Was debating it for a while, but the show on Wednesday made my decision for me.
Also looking forward to seeing the Dirtbombs, Radio 4 and !!!
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If you want the new Wrens album they are selling a limited edition now at absolutelykosher.com. I generally trust ggw's musical tastes so just picked it up and damn it if they arent the same label that carries those hard to find Mountain Goats cds I have been looking for.
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how many moutain goats CDs does one person need?
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Markie told me it takes him at least three mountain goats to reach orgasm.
Originally posted by the scientist:
how many moutain goats CDs does one person need?
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Reviews of Meadowlands are hard to find, but here are a couple:
http://www.monosyllabic.com/rotation/archives/000315.html#000315 (http://www.monosyllabic.com/rotation/archives/000315.html#000315)
http://www.magnetmagazine.com/staff/staff.html (http://www.magnetmagazine.com/staff/staff.html)
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Originally posted by the scientist:
how many moutain goats CDs does one person need?
How many Ballboy singles does one person need?
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This boy prefers havin two balls.
Originally posted by Bob Pollard:
Originally posted by the scientist:
how many moutain goats CDs does one person need?
How many Ballboy singles does one person need? [/b]
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Originally posted by Rhett Miller:
Markie told me it takes him at least three mountain goats to reach orgasm.
Originally posted by the scientist:
how many moutain goats CDs does one person need?
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Its the rugged good looks and the pornstar poise that wins me over every time <img src="http://www.americanfocus.com/jpeg/wildlife/mountain_goat_rear_view.jpg" alt=" - " />
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How many Ballboy singles does one person need? [/QB]
all of them goddamnit.
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Don't 30 year old's look stupid pogo'ing at concerts? It's time to just enjoy the music and leave the acting like idiots to the young'uns!
Rhett, three words.....I Am Kloot
six more...remember where you heard it first!
Bags, seriously, check them out. Best new talent to come out for a long time.
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Originally posted by Bob Pollard:
If you want the new Wrens album they are selling a limited edition now at absolutelykosher.com. I generally trust ggw's musical tastes so just picked it up and damn it if they arent the same label that carries those hard to find Mountain Goats cds I have been looking for.
I just put in my order for both Meadowlands and Secaucus. So, the Wrens will soon be newest in my cd player (remember the days when we said "on my turntable").
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Originally posted by mankie:
Rhett, three words.....I Am Kloot
six more...remember where you heard it first!
Bags, seriously, check them out. Best new talent to come out for a long time.
You want I should check out I Am Kloot as well?
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Originally posted by mankie:
Rhett, three words.....I Am Kloot
six more...remember where you heard it first!
Yeah... it was Jaguar
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Originally posted by Bob Pollard:
Originally posted by mankie:
Rhett, three words.....I Am Kloot
six more...remember where you heard it first!
Yeah... it was Jaguar [/b]
I meant remember were BAGS had heard it first...smart-arse.
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Originally posted by bags:
You want I should check out I Am Kloot as well?
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Most definately...mankie doesn't get too excited about new bands, so this is a biggie!
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I am Kloot: These guys are brilliant.
I saw them open for the Webb Brothers at the Venue in Edinburgh two years ago and their CD has had steady rotation in my player ever since. There are very few discs that I can say this about.
Can't wait for the new album to be released.
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Elbow owes us a tour! I am so hoping that with the release of their new album (Aug-UK) that they bring I Am Kloot along with them. Would be one of those perfect shows.
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i am so in agreement with that! they haven't toured here since last fall and i don't know if i am kloot was ever over here.
Originally posted by Jaguär:
Elbow owes us a tour! I am so hoping that with the release of their new album (Aug-UK) that they bring I Am Kloot along with them. Would be one of those perfect shows.
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No, I Am Kloot have never been here.
Magnet(Evan Johansen) is supporting Elbow in the UK for their tour. Would be nice to include him in. Evan just told a friend of mine that he's coming to the US but wouldn't say with whom. Wouldn't be surprised if it's with David Gray from something that was said and he has opened for him. Hope not or I'll miss him. It is supposed to be with someone big.
Also, South has a new album due out in the UK in September (I think the 22nd) which sounds good. Not much different than their past efforts. I want them back here too. Oh, and the new UNKLE(James Lavelle) album is great. Joel Cadbury(South) is one of the guest singers, along with many others.
While I'm on new stuff, BRMC release their new album on August 25th(I think) but Peter Hayes told another friend of mine that it will be released in the US on September 2nd. I have an Advance and it sounds good. Still pissed at them for skipping this area on their tour. Heard that their shows in Detroit, NYC and Toronto were great. :mad:
Oh, and The Rain Band will be in NYC in November. They also know that they better get their soggy Manc arses here in the Baltimore/DC area when they come over. I'm doing my part.
Haven't heard of any US Longview tours but their album Mercury was just released in the UK last Monday. Hopefully they will tour here this Fall or Winter.
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my only recommendation is The Davinci Code, a well written page turner.
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Originally posted by Jaguär:
Elbow owes us a tour! I am so hoping that with the release of their new album (Aug-UK) that they bring I Am Kloot along with them. Would be one of those perfect shows.
I know you'll keep me posted won't you Jag?.....mank getting excited about a concert by fairly recent bands, what's up with that?