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Title: Why did Cartel change their name to Cartel.dc?
Post by: Charlie Nakatestes, Japanese Golfer on August 12, 2005, 11:51:00 am
Anybody know? Cartel.dc appears to have a headlining gig at Iota. Why the name change?
Title: Re: Why did Cartel change their name to Cartel.dc?
Post by: Julian, Alleged Computer F**kface on August 12, 2005, 12:02:00 pm
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Originally posted by Charlie Nakatestes, Japanese Golfer:
  Anybody know? Cartel.dc appears to have a headlining gig at Iota. Why the name change?
I don't wish to speak for the band, but there's another band (of the emo/screamo variety) who has stolen the name and despite Cartel(.dc) having it trademarked and having the name longer, the other band will not quit using it. So, I assume the name change is to allay confusion.
Title: Re: Why did Cartel change their name to Cartel.dc?
Post by: Charlie Nakatestes, Japanese Golfer on August 12, 2005, 01:40:00 pm
But why give in to the other band? Fico?
 
 
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Originally posted by Julian, faux celeb-porn CONNOISSEUR:
   
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Originally posted by Charlie Nakatestes, Japanese Golfer:
  Anybody know? Cartel.dc appears to have a headlining gig at Iota. Why the name change?
I don't wish to speak for the band, but there's another band (of the emo/screamo variety) who has stolen the name and despite Cartel(.dc) having it trademarked and having the name longer, the other band will not quit using it. So, I assume the name change is to allay confusion. [/b]
Title: Re: Why did Cartel change their name to Cartel.dc?
Post by: Fico on August 15, 2005, 10:26:00 am
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Originally posted by Charlie Nakatestes, Japanese Golfer:
  But why give in to the other band? Fico?
 
   
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Originally posted by Julian, faux celeb-porn CONNOISSEUR:
   
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Originally posted by Charlie Nakatestes, Japanese Golfer:
  Anybody know? Cartel.dc appears to have a headlining gig at Iota. Why the name change?
I don't wish to speak for the band, but there's another band (of the emo/screamo variety) who has stolen the name and despite Cartel(.dc) having it trademarked and having the name longer, the other band will not quit using it. So, I assume the name change is to allay confusion. [/b]
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Because we don't have the money to put up a legal fight...studio bills, van, merchandise,rehearsal space rent,  etc..have been giving our wallets constant hits...we can't spend thousands on attorney fees..so we'll lose this battle..
Title: Re: Why did Cartel change their name to Cartel.dc?
Post by: Yank on August 15, 2005, 11:05:00 am
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Originally posted by Fico:
   
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Originally posted by Charlie Nakatestes, Japanese Golfer:
  But why give in to the other band? Fico?
 
   
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Originally posted by Julian, faux celeb-porn CONNOISSEUR:
     
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Originally posted by Charlie Nakatestes, Japanese Golfer:
  Anybody know? Cartel.dc appears to have a headlining gig at Iota. Why the name change?
I don't wish to speak for the band, but there's another band (of the emo/screamo variety) who has stolen the name and despite Cartel(.dc) having it trademarked and having the name longer, the other band will not quit using it. So, I assume the name change is to allay confusion. [/b]
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Because we don't have the money to put up a legal fight...studio bills, van, merchandise,rehearsal space rent,  etc..have been giving our wallets constant hits...we can't spend thousands on attorney fees..so we'll lose this battle.. [/b]
Fico, hope it's ok with you, but we've been playing your single Fleets on Kool Rock Radio. Great song!
 
 http://64.246.62.100:8000/listen.pls (http://64.246.62.100:8000/listen.pls)
Title: Re: Why did Cartel change their name to Cartel.dc?
Post by: Julian, Alleged Computer F**kface on August 15, 2005, 11:06:00 am
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Originally posted by Mr Dodgy Slapper:
  Fico, hope it's ok with you, but we've been playing your single Fleets on Kool Rock Radio.
Sue his ass, Fico!
Title: Re: Why did Cartel change their name to Cartel.dc?
Post by: Yank on August 15, 2005, 11:19:00 am
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Originally posted by Julian, faux celeb-porn CONNOISSEUR:
   
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Originally posted by Mr Dodgy Slapper:
  Fico, hope it's ok with you, but we've been playing your single Fleets on Kool Rock Radio.
Sue his ass, Fico! [/b]
Give me your address and I'll send you 3 pence for royalities.
Title: Re: Why did Cartel change their name to Cartel.dc?
Post by: Julian, Alleged Computer F**kface on August 15, 2005, 11:25:00 am
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Originally posted by Mr Dodgy Slapper:
  Give me your address and I'll send you 3 pence for royalities.
Hmm... pence, you say?
 
 *pms address*
Title: Re: Why did Cartel change their name to Cartel.dc?
Post by: Fico on August 15, 2005, 12:01:00 pm
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Originally posted by Mr Dodgy Slapper:
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Fico, hope it's ok with you, but we've been playing your single Fleets on Kool Rock Radio. Great song!
 
  http://64.246.62.100:8000/listen.pls (http://64.246.62.100:8000/listen.pls) [/QB][/QUOTE]
 
 How could we mind?? thanks a bunch...will keep you updated on when the new songs are finished...we have most of the tracking down..missing some vocals, mixing and mastering...hopefully we'll have it all by sometime in September...cheers.
Title: Re: Why did Cartel change their name to Cartel.dc?
Post by: Yank on August 15, 2005, 12:30:00 pm
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Originally posted by Fico:
   
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Originally posted by Mr Dodgy Slapper:
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Fico, hope it's ok with you, but we've been playing your single Fleets on Kool Rock Radio. Great song!
 
   http://64.246.62.100:8000/listen.pls (http://64.246.62.100:8000/listen.pls)  [/b]
How could we mind?? thanks a bunch...will keep you updated on when the new songs are finished...we have most of the tracking down..missing some vocals, mixing and mastering...hopefully we'll have it all by sometime in September...cheers. [/QB][/QUOTE]
 
 
 Thanks Fico!  Yeah, when you have some demos or other other music that you want to send my way, we'll be more than happy to play them on our station.  Maybe we can even get some voice promos for Kool Rock from you too?  
 
 Kool Rock Radio isn't live.  All shows are recorded and played thoughout the week.  So you songs will get a good deal of airtime.  At this time, there is a lot of repeating of shows, but that will change as we go along.  
 
 Another thing that I like about it, the dj's come from all over the world.  Even though they all speak English, they broadcast in their own language and are free to play what they want.
 
 And coming very soon, another regular on the 9:30 board will be doing a show of their own too....but I'll let them tell you about that one.
Title: Re: Why did Cartel change their name to Cartel.dc?
Post by: xcanuck on August 24, 2005, 02:03:00 pm
Hey Fico - I thought you were headlining the show at the Iota this Saturday. At any rate, any idea roughly when you'll take the stage?
Title: Re: Why did Cartel change their name to Cartel.dc?
Post by: Fico on August 24, 2005, 02:48:00 pm
No idea on set-times..the club usually sets/suggests the times themselves...we have the middle slot, Delegate opens, then us, Monopoli closes the night..
Title: Re: Why did Cartel change their name to Cartel.dc?
Post by: Fico on August 24, 2005, 02:54:00 pm
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Originally posted by Fico:
  No idea on set-times..the club usually sets/suggests the times themselves...we have the middle slot, Delegate opens, then us, Monopoli closes the night..
In case you guys are unfamiliar with the other bands,or us, here are links to websites:
 
 www.carteldc.com (http://www.carteldc.com)
 www.monopoli.tv (http://www.monopoli.tv)
 www.delegatemusic.com (http://www.delegatemusic.com)
 
 all of them have soundclips so enjoy..
Title: Re: Why did Cartel change their name to Cartel.dc?
Post by: Bombay Chutney on August 24, 2005, 03:47:00 pm
Just another headache for you, but Pollstar is apparently combining tourdates for the two Cartels.
Title: Re: Why did Cartel change their name to Cartel.dc?
Post by: helicon1 on August 24, 2005, 03:52:00 pm
There's a venue called Nancy Raygun in Richmond?? That's awesome!
Title: Re: Why did Cartel change their name to Cartel.dc?
Post by: Fico on August 24, 2005, 04:03:00 pm
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Originally posted by Glass Arm Shattering:
  There's a venue called Nancy Raygun in Richmond?? That's awesome!
Is Nancy Raygun a slang for something??
Title: Re: Why did Cartel change their name to Cartel.dc?
Post by: Fico on August 24, 2005, 04:05:00 pm
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Originally posted by Bombay Chutney:
  Just another headache for you, but Pollstar is apparently combining tourdates for the two Cartels.
Oh joy!!!..in a way it'd be good if their camp realized it and finally decided it's an issue that needs to be resolved..no so hard to return an e-mail or phone-call...but I guess it's the scream-o way..
 
 So what do you guys think of the other bands on the bill?? i think its gonna be a fantastic night of up and coming bands..
Title: Re: Why did Cartel change their name to Cartel.dc?
Post by: boweswana on August 24, 2005, 04:19:00 pm
I've seen/heard Monopoli before and dig that stuff for the most part.  Alfonso is a pretty great singer, I just hope they get a little more uptempo/aggressive down the road but that's just my tastes and what I hear in my head as being cool.
 
 I heard a not so great review of Delegate but as it came from someone that I agree with about nothing musically I'll assume I would like them.
 
 I'm planning on hitting two shows Saturday, yours and the Velvet Lounge.  Definitely a lot of good shows going on this weekend.
Title: Re: Why did Cartel change their name to Cartel.dc?
Post by: Julian, Alleged Computer F**kface on August 24, 2005, 04:21:00 pm
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Originally posted by Glass Arm Shattering:
  There's a venue called Nancy Raygun in Richmond?? That's awesome!
Nanci raygun
Title: Re: Why did Cartel change their name to Cartel.dc?
Post by: Sage 703 on August 24, 2005, 04:24:00 pm
Delegate is fantastic - they were great at DC9 the other night.  I recommend them highly.
 
 As for the Nanci Raygun, great venue.
Title: Re: Why did Cartel change their name to Cartel.dc?
Post by: Fico on August 24, 2005, 05:11:00 pm
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Originally posted by callat703:
  Delegate is fantastic - they were great at DC9 the other night.  I recommend them highly.
 
 As for the Nanci Raygun, great venue.
Looking forward to playing the Nanci Raygun tomorrow..it's my birthday no-less...Only been to Richmond once before to play a show at a venue called Alley Katz..didn't make much of the town..anything worth looking into in Richmond?
 
 Pharmacist/Calla..if you guys make it to the show do say hello...
Title: Re: Why did Cartel change their name to Cartel.dc?
Post by: Julian, Alleged Computer F**kface on August 24, 2005, 05:13:00 pm
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Originally posted by Fico:
 Only been to Richmond once before to play a show at a venue called Alley Katz..
I was there (the show with Conshafter). There's nothing worth seeing in town.
Title: Re: Why did Cartel change their name to Cartel.dc?
Post by: SPARX on August 24, 2005, 05:16:00 pm
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Originally posted by Fico:
   
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Originally posted by callat703:
  Delegate is fantastic - they were great at DC9 the other night.  I recommend them highly.
 
 As for the Nanci Raygun, great venue.
Looking forward to playing the Nanci Raygun tomorrow..it's my birthday no-less...Only been to Richmond once before to play a show at a venue called Alley Katz..didn't make much of the town..anything worth looking into in Richmond?
 
 Pharmacist/Calla..if you guys make it to the show do say hello... [/b]
If you're staying Friday:Aug. 26, 2005 Jezabel's Birthday BASH!!! Muzak by The DevilTones, The Strap Ons At Wonderland in Richmond VA.
 
  http://www.thestrap-ons.com/ (http://www.thestrap-ons.com/)
  http://www.deviltones.com/ (http://www.deviltones.com/)                                                                           http://www.bleechild.com/ (http://www.bleechild.com/)
Title: Re: Why did Cartel change their name to Cartel.dc?
Post by: Charlie Nakatestes, Japanese Golfer on August 24, 2005, 05:19:00 pm
The Museum of the Confederacy is in Richmond.
 
 
 http://www.moc.org/ (http://www.moc.org/)
Title: Re: Why did Cartel change their name to Cartel.dc?
Post by: Tom Servo on August 24, 2005, 05:47:00 pm
The Iota gig is currently in the lead for Saturday night.  I enjoyed the WSC/Monopoli/Cartel show at BC a few weeks ago.  Good times.
Title: Re: Why did Cartel change their name to Cartel.dc?
Post by: Fico on August 25, 2005, 11:27:00 am
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Originally posted by Julian, faux celeb-porn CONNOISSEUR:
   
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Originally posted by Fico:
 Only been to Richmond once before to play a show at a venue called Alley Katz..
I was there (the show with Conshafter). There's nothing worth seeing in town. [/b]
Hahahahahaha seriously??? did you catch us and the Upwelling?
Title: Re: Why did Cartel change their name to Cartel.dc?
Post by: Julian, Alleged Computer F**kface on August 25, 2005, 11:38:00 am
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Originally posted by Fico:
  Hahahahahaha seriously??? did you catch us and the Upwelling?
I didn't see the first band on the bill (whoever they were). I saw the last three. So, yes, I saw you, and no clue on the Upwelling. I would've said hi but I didn't know which you were.
Title: Re: Why did Cartel change their name to Cartel.dc?
Post by: Fico on August 25, 2005, 11:50:00 am
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Originally posted by Julian, faux celeb-porn CONNOISSEUR:
   
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Originally posted by Fico:
  Hahahahahaha seriously??? did you catch us and the Upwelling?
I didn't see the first band on the bill (whoever they were). I saw the last three. So, yes, I saw you, and no clue on the Upwelling. I would've said hi but I didn't know which you were. [/b]
The Upwelling played before us..they are a trio..they were pretty spot-on that night...their keyboard player is jaw-droppingly good and they have a tight atmospheric sound...
Title: Re: Why did Cartel change their name to Cartel.dc?
Post by: Julian, Alleged Computer F**kface on August 25, 2005, 12:01:00 pm
Do you like Conshafter? They're one of the most consistantly entertaining Richmond acts, although that's not saying much. Only Richmond local (other then Sparklehorse) I ever felt the need to buy the CD from.
Title: Re: Why did Cartel change their name to Cartel.dc?
Post by: Fico on August 25, 2005, 12:11:00 pm
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Originally posted by Julian, faux celeb-porn CONNOISSEUR:
  Do you like Conshafter? They're one of the most consistantly entertaining Richmond acts, although that's not saying much. Only Richmond local (other then Sparklehorse) I ever felt the need to buy the CD from.
Check out Delegate www.delegatemusic.com (http://www.delegatemusic.com) I believe they are locals to you...
Title: Re: Why did Cartel change their name to Cartel.dc?
Post by: Julian, Alleged Computer F**kface on August 25, 2005, 12:16:00 pm
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Originally posted by Fico:
  Check out Delegate www.delegatemusic.com (http://www.delegatemusic.com) I believe they are locals to you...
They're OK, I'd heard some MP3s before, but I was under the impression they were from DC.
 
 Still never answered what you thought of
 Conshafter, if you saw their set.
Title: Re: Why did Cartel change their name to Cartel.dc?
Post by: Fico on August 25, 2005, 12:52:00 pm
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Originally posted by Julian, faux celeb-porn CONNOISSEUR:
   
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Originally posted by Fico:
  Check out Delegate www.delegatemusic.com (http://www.delegatemusic.com) I believe they are locals to you...
They're OK, I'd heard some MP3s before, but I was under the impression they were from DC.
 
 Still never answered what you thought of
 Conshafter, if you saw their set. [/b]
Do I normally listen to the kind of rock they play? No. That being said, they have outstanding energy and people feed of that so more power to them...