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Title: Siren Fest...
Post by: walkman on July 20, 2003, 04:34:00 pm
was amazing.  Kurosawa and I went, and had a blast.  I know some other board folks were talking about it a while ago...was anyone else there?
Title: Re: Siren Fest...
Post by: ggw on July 20, 2003, 07:25:00 pm
My girlfriend and I went also.  Impressions:
 
 The Pattern -- They may sound like a lot of other bands, but they were very good.
 
 The Kills -- awful.
 
 Oneida -- The three guys in the band seemed like they might be talented musicians, too bad they never seemed to be playing the same song at the same time.
 
 The Dirtbombs -- They were very good, but I think they would be even better in a club.
 
 Sahara Hotnights -- They were fun.
 
 Hot Hot Heat -- Ho Ho Hum.  Should have gone to see Ted Leo, but opted to stay put for these guys.  Not bad, but not great.
 
 Radio 4 -- We had a hard time deciding whether to go see Radio 4 or The Datsuns.  We opted for Radio 4 and, while I don't know how the Datsuns were, Radio 4 was fantastic.  The sound guy had the bass too high in the mix, but the band put on a very impressive set - lots of energy.  I don't think they can be accused of sounding like anybody else.  Was that Ted Leo doing a cameo on tambourine?
 
 Idlewild -- Excellent.  The set seemed a little short after Wednesday's stupendous show at the 9:30, but they were just as good, microphone problems not withstanding.  Unfortunately, many people left after Radio 4 (to go see Modest Mouse maybe?), but the crowd responded very well.  I was glad to see the Capitol Records street team in their Hail to The Thief replica Econoline van pimping Idlewild all day.  It's kind of funny how one's perspective on street teams changes when one likes the band they're pushing.
 
 Also picked up the new 3-disc live Zeppelin album for $15, which provided a great soundtrack for the ride home.  John Bonham truly is God.
 
 Non-musically, the people watching was top-notch.  Never before and possibly never again will I see such a sea of bad haircuts and thrift store clothes.
 
 The Irony Award goes to the guy who had a tatto of the word "tattoos" inside a circle with a slash through it.
Title: Re: Siren Fest...
Post by: walkman on July 20, 2003, 08:13:00 pm
Yeah, that sounds about right...especially re: thrift stores, hair and irony.  My musical thoughts:
 
 The Pattern - ditto
 
 Oneida - absolutely won me over.  I was familiar with their music before the fest, but the live show was eversomuchmoreso.  
 
 Dirtbombs - best set of the show, IMHO.
 
 Ted â?? played very well...too bad the crowd sucked.
 
 Radio 4 - ditto.  I had fun up front with those
 who weren't afraid to dance.  Too bad 90% of the hipsters are paralysed from the neck down.
 
 Idlewild - closed it out with style, grace and much guitar.  I thought Gavin, in particular, really went off.
 
 Non-musical highlight:  Riding the Cyclone with Kurosawa and her friend the Idlewild sound tech.  Showed her some good, clean American fun.  May its creaky wooden slats hold fast forever.
Title: Re: Siren Fest...
Post by: jadetree on July 20, 2003, 08:59:00 pm
so nobody saw Modest Mouse? was hoping somebody could tell me if new material sounds as different as I think it might
Title: Re: Siren Fest...
Post by: sonickteam2 on July 20, 2003, 10:56:00 pm
I also made the 5 fucking hour trip to Coney Island, so i didnt see as much as everyone else apparently!
 
  the bands i saw:
 
   !!! - This band although i was too freakin far to see them, were very good. I couldnt really tell what they were doing but definitely made ya wanna dance.
 
   Sahara Hotnights - Not too bad, but not too interesting either so we went to....
 
   Northern State - I figured i had to see them ONCE, and i sure did.  Not only was the sound so bad for them, they are overweight, overperspirating, non dance-move having, beastie boys couldnt be's.  All it really sounded like was bass from some white trash kids Honda Civic, and then you could barely even HEAR these girls, not that youd want to.  It became apparent that they may have been to blame, not really even singing "into" thier mics. Did i say singing? oh no, it was not singing, they are horrible. But it was very very fun to watch people stare at the stage in horror.
 
  Hot Hot Heat - oh my god, people in NYC SUCK!!! talk talk talk talk talk talk talk , look pal, i know this show was free and you are hip like shit, but if you dont want to hear the band, go grab a beer or hot dog, or fuck yourself or something.  Other than that, when i could HEAR the band , i liked them.  
 
   we skipped the Datsuns because the main stage sucked and you couldnt get close.
 
   Radio 4 - i have always like this band, the guy playing bongos wins the best musician of the day award.
 
   Idlewild - well, never saw them before, and we were about 2 people back from the gate so we had one wikked close view, and i am totally sold. These Scots fucking rock.  Every song they played was played well, loud, and with a ton of emotion. I will go see this band every single time they come around forever.  They made my quasi-fun NYC day a wikked good time.
 
    Non  musical highlights - $3 22's of Corona made this the cheapest beer EVER!  The Cyclone kicks ass, cause its like, is this the time is gonna go off the tracks. and hipsters hipsters and more hipsters!!!! wow, its like i was looking for the queen bee of hipsters.  
    chillin on the beach afterwards was nice as well.
 
    fuck that was long.
Title: Re: Siren Fest...
Post by: dtqjr on July 21, 2003, 12:46:00 am
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Originally posted by Bob Pollard:
  so nobody saw Modest Mouse? was hoping somebody could tell me if new material sounds as different as I think it might
Yea, I saw them.  They played three new songs and I thought it sounded similar to their other records.
Title: Re: Siren Fest...
Post by: Relaxer on July 21, 2003, 09:31:00 am
Great weekend, but traffic up there (Friday night) and coming back (Sunday afternoon) was a drag.
 Very good time though. Coney Island is a trip, and as pointed out, the people-watching was really fun. The only bands I saw that I can testify on were The !!!s, which were really good, and Modest Mouse, which were... ehh.
 
 Other than that, we didn't see much, prefering instead to sit on the beach and drink $3 Coronas.
 
 I hope The !!!s come around here soon. They had kind of the Primal Scream mean-beat evil vibe going and it sounded great. As long as they stay away from good-guy-music territory (having a saxophone in the band can do that), they should be okay.
Title: Re: Siren Fest...
Post by: vansmack on July 21, 2003, 12:19:00 pm
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Originally posted by ggw:
  John Bonham truly is God.
 
 
GGW, you're wayyyy too intelligent to be figuring this out now....this isn't news to you, right?
Title: Re: Siren Fest...
Post by: ggw on July 21, 2003, 12:31:00 pm
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Originally posted by vansmack:
   
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Originally posted by ggw:
  John Bonham truly is God.
 
 
GGW, you're wayyyy too intelligent to be figuring this out now....this isn't news to you, right? [/b]
No it's not news, but "How The West Was Won" just affirms the fact.
Title: Re: Siren Fest...
Post by: vansmack on July 21, 2003, 12:34:00 pm
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Originally posted by ggw:
   
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Originally posted by vansmack:
   
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Originally posted by ggw:
  John Bonham truly is God.
 
 
GGW, you're wayyyy too intelligent to be figuring this out now....this isn't news to you, right? [/b]
No it's not news, but "How The West Was Won" just affirms the fact. [/b]
Word.  I was sold at the "Bonzo's Montreux" version of Moby Dick.  Dear god!
Title: Re: Siren Fest...
Post by: Samantha on July 21, 2003, 08:35:00 pm
I should've gone but I forgot.  NYC has so far been LAME for me.   :(
Title: Re: Siren Fest...
Post by: paige on July 21, 2003, 10:56:00 pm
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Originally posted by walkman:
  was amazing.  Kurosawa and I went, and had a blast.  
Starting Rumor....
 
 now.
 
 
 walkman + kurosawa = lurrrve
Title: Re: Siren Fest...
Post by: kurosawa-b/w on July 21, 2003, 11:16:00 pm
Paige, I would never dream of taking Walkman from you. Beside, my heart belongs to and will always belong to a certain Mr. Roderick Woomble.
 
 A great day at the Siren Fest, though. A superb location, good vibe, cheap food/drink, and fantastic music. Oh yeah and it was free. Wow it rocked.
 
 GGW, I saw you, waved and you looked right through me. I can only hope that you didn't see me. Otherwise, I will feel insulted.  ;)
 
 Highlights were Radio 4 (yeah yeah yeah!!!) and Idlewild. But I loved The Dirtbombs as well. And Ted Leo won me over. He rocked with a tight set. (And yes that was him on stage with Radio 4.)
 
 If I ever have to hear Northern State live again, I will scream loudly and fall into a fit of madness. They are awful and irritating. Who could possibly like them? Ugh.
 
 Let's hope next year's line-up is as good. I will definitely go back.
Title: Re: Siren Fest...
Post by: ggw on July 21, 2003, 11:31:00 pm
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Originally posted by kurosawa-b/w:
  GGW, I saw you, waved and you looked right through me. I can only hope that you didn't see me. Otherwise, I will feel insulted.   ;)  
 
Ooops...
 
 Um.....yeah......I didn't see you   :roll:  
 
 No, seriously, I didn't.  Sorry.  I was probably just mesmerized by the supreme people-watching.
 
 I hope Radio 4 comes down here soon.  I've always liked Gotham, but was totally impressed with their live show.
Title: Re: Siren Fest...
Post by: kurosawa-b/w on July 21, 2003, 11:44:00 pm
GGW, I figured that was the case.
 
 That was my 4th time seeing Radio 4 and was the best I've ever seen them play/sing/dance. Great show. Radio 4 has my favorite keyboard player of any other band. He's the best!
Title: Re: Siren Fest...
Post by: walkman on July 22, 2003, 12:44:00 am
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Originally posted by paige:
   
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Originally posted by walkman:
  was amazing.  Kurosawa and I went, and had a blast.  
Starting Rumor....
 
 now.
 
 
 walkman + kurosawa = lurrrve [/b]
in the way that I'd lurrrve a sister, yes.  And no, I'm not from West Virginia.
 
 Paige, I'll always lurrrve you in a non-relative sense.
Title: Re: Siren Fest...
Post by: paige on July 22, 2003, 08:44:00 am
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Originally posted by walkman:
  in the way that I'd lurrrve a sister, yes.  And no, I'm not from West Virginia.
 
 Paige, I'll always lurrrve you in a non-relative sense.
oh you two, i was just joshing  ;)   besides, i'd love to have kurosawa as my sister-in-law!
 
 lurrrve is in the air.
Title: Re: Siren Fest...
Post by: Bags on July 22, 2003, 09:29:00 am
NYTimes coverage, which I think not only speaks to the Festival, but music in general in 2003:
 
 July 22, 2003
 Underground Bands Climb Into the Sun and See Their Shadows
 By KELEFA SANNEH
 
 If you want to give a good beach party, you'll need a familiar soundtrack. The safest bet is to hire a bunch of D.J.'s to spin records everyone loves. If you don't want D.J.'s, you can hire a bunch of cover bands to play songs everyone loves. And if you don't want cover bands, you can hire a bunch of retro-rock acts to resurrect styles everyone loves.
 
 On Saturday The Village Voice organized its third annual Siren Music Festival, bringing 14 bands to two stages at Coney Island, overlooking what must be one of the least bucolic beaches in the world. These were bands and fans who typically encounter one another late at night, in underlighted clubs. All afternoon, up and down the boardwalk, unsuspecting beachgoers mingled with dazed-looking hipsters, blinking in the sunlight. The lineup wasn't adventurous, but it also wasn't misguided; these days the rock 'n' roll underground runs on nostalgia, and most of Saturday's acts reflected this peculiar trend.
 
 The Witnesses imitated the early Rolling Stones, while the Datsuns reprised the faster, slicker sound of 1970's hard rock. Each band had mastered the style it loved â?? and the Datsuns in particular proved their devotion by squeezing into perilously tight pants â?? but it wasn't clear why.
 
 The Kills, a man and a woman, eagerly embraced the limitations of their chosen style, emphasizing washed-out blues riffs and monotonous prerecorded rhythm tracks. During "Kissy Kissy," the woman, VV, croaked, over and over again, "It's been a long time coming."
 
 At 3 it was time for !!! (usually pronounced "Chk, Chk, Chk"), a Brooklyn octet with a knack for stealing shows. Virtually alone among the Siren acts !!! sounded even better than the band it was ripping off, in this case Liquid Liquid, a tense, minimalist funk act from the early 80's.
 
 The music of !!! is based on heavy, clattering beats, filled out with loping bass lines and emaciated guitar and sometimes topped with horn blasts or chanted lyrics or occasionally screams from the roller coaster nearby.
 
 The set ended with !!!'s current single, "Me & Giuliani Down by the Schoolyard (A True Story)," a pulsatile track that posits dancing as a form of civic rebellion. If the popularity of retro-rock continues, expect to see !!! one-upped by some smartly-dressed group from England railing against Abraham D. Beame.
 
 Hot Hot Heat, from Victoria, British Columbia, used choppy instrumental parts to back preening vocals that owed a big debt to New Wave.
 
 It was 5:30, and the beer and hot dogs (along with the broiling sun) had taken their toll on the audience. Still, after the last song â?? an invigorating spring through "This Town" â?? the glassy-eyed fans mustered enough energy to applaud the day's most entertaining set.
 
 The only nonrock act of the day was Northern State, an all-female hip-hop trio from Long Island that borrows its rhyme style from the Beastie Boys, circa 1986. It can be fun to watch the three rappers trade lines, although it's hard not to wish the lines were better. Hip-hop lyrics may have hit an all-time low with the couplet "I'm lean, I'm mean, I'm clean, I'm not 17/ I'm the hottest girl rapper that you know you ever seen."
 
 While most of these bands seemed eager to please, Oneida seemed just as eager to irritate, which was a welcome change of pace. The members accompanied discombobulated guitar with belligerent drums and sometimes a crude keyboard that sounded like a touch-tone phone.
 
 One song seemed to have a shouted vocal line that went: "Slow down! Slow down! Use your brakes!" But for some reason the vocals got quieter when you got nearer the stage and further from the go-kart track.
 
 A pair of more introspective acts, Ted Leo/Pharmacists and Idlewild, bucked the day's trend by emphasizing songwriting over sound, but the real anomaly was the headliner, Modest Mouse, an old-fashioned indie-rock band from the old days before all the new bands wanted to sound like old bands. Modest Mouse's set was long and uneven and challenging and â?? most of all â?? ambitious. For better and for worse Isaac Brock is a front man who seems to live in a world of his own invention, a place where folk music means grinding dissonance and off-kilter riffs and sudden musical shifts and shouted rants.
 
 That doesn't mean it was always fun to hear Mr. Brock bellowing while his band bashed away. But his best songs can make you feel as if you're peering into a vast, weird world full of warped parables and cryptic observations.
 
 While the other acts wanted to inspire a dance party, it seemed Mr. Brock wanted to inspire a mass delusion, and when the crowd joined in on "Cowboy Dan" â?? shouting, "Every time you think you're walking, you're just moving the ground/ Every time you think you're talking, you're just moving your mouth/ Every time you think you're looking, you're just looking down" â?? it seemed clear that he had succeeded.
Title: Re: Siren Fest...
Post by: walkman on July 22, 2003, 01:24:00 pm
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Originally posted by paige:
   
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Originally posted by walkman:
  in the way that I'd lurrrve a sister, yes.  And no, I'm not from West Virginia.
 
 Paige, I'll always lurrrve you in a non-relative sense.
oh you two, i was just joshing   ;)    besides, i'd love to have kurosawa as my sister-in-law!
 
 lurrrve is in the air. [/b]
Hey Paige...if you were a lurrrve pirate, would you want your parrot on this shoulder (touches closest one) or THIS shoulder (and just like that my arm is around ye).  Slick, no?
Title: Re: Siren Fest...
Post by: Jaguär on July 22, 2003, 01:45:00 pm
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Originally posted by walkman:
 Hey Paige...if you were a lurrrve pirate, would you want your parrot on this shoulder (touches closest one) or THIS shoulder (and just like that my arm is around ye).  Slick, no?
:D          :D          :D    
 
 You are definitely Mankie's protogé.
Title: Re: Siren Fest...
Post by: poorlulu on July 22, 2003, 01:53:00 pm
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Originally posted by walkman:
 in the way that I'd lurrrve a sister, yes.  
kurosawa is not a sister..............she doesn't even like hip hop............
Title: Re: Siren Fest...
Post by: paige on July 22, 2003, 02:35:00 pm
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Originally posted by walkman:
  Hey Paige...if you were a lurrrve pirate, would you want your parrot on this shoulder (touches closest one) or THIS shoulder (and just like that my arm is around ye).  Slick, no?
you're good, walkman, you are good.
 
 you win the lurrve pirate award.  ;)
Title: Re: Siren Fest...
Post by: walkman on July 22, 2003, 02:57:00 pm
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Originally posted by paige:
   
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Originally posted by walkman:
  Hey Paige...if you were a lurrrve pirate, would you want your parrot on this shoulder (touches closest one) or THIS shoulder (and just like that my arm is around ye).  Slick, no?
you're good, walkman, you are good.
 
 you win the lurrve pirate award.   ;)  [/b]
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Title: Re: Siren Fest...
Post by: paige on July 22, 2003, 03:30:00 pm
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   :)