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=> GENERAL DISCUSSION => Topic started by: chknfngrs on July 23, 2003, 12:50:00 pm
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yes or no:
if you are in a local DC band to you play there?
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Sure, if your band sucks.
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Originally posted by chknfngrs:
yes or no:
if you are in a local DC band to you play there?
I would assume that a Grog & Tankard gig is better than no gig at all, right?
If it doesn't go well you can always just go across the street to Good Guys
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thanks Rhett Midler. That helps a lot. A gig is a gig, but it can't be nice to play in such a hole. The bartenders aren't anything to shake a stick at.
I guess I'm curious to know why the place is such a dive when it could be a valued club on that strip o' Wisconsin.
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Originally posted by chknfngrs:
....Rhett Midler.....
That's good.
I may have to use that one at some point in the future.
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It's a shame it's such a shit-hole...I bet if they took the pool table out the sorority brothers would stop going in and a better clientelle would start frequenting the place.
I agree though, a gig is a gig if you're trying to get exposure.
(Make it go away...make me stop agreeing with GGW(TM) all the time!)
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Originally posted by mankie:
(Make it go away...make me stop agreeing with GGW(TM) all the time!)
It's about time you realized that I'm always right.
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I don't think bands gain any new fans by playing there. Everybody in the crowd is usually a friend of one of the bands playing there.
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Originally posted by ggwâ?¢:
Originally posted by mankie:
(Make it go away...make me stop agreeing with GGW(TM) all the time!)
It's about time you realized that I'm always right. [/b]
and so am I evidently!
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Originally posted by chknfngrs:
guess I'm curious to know why the place is such a dive when it could be a valued club on that strip o' Wisconsin.
I used to live over there...it's just not a very splashy "strip" in general...most people out and about there are G-town students and polo/docker clad corporate goons patronizing the strip clubs...blech!
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Originally posted by ggwâ?¢:
It's about time you realized that I'm always right right wing.
friendly facism?
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They don't call him the ugly Republican for nothing.
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Originally posted by Celeste:
I used to live over there...it's just not a very splashy "strip" in general...most people out and about there are G-town students and polo/docker clad corporate goons patronizing the strip clubs...blech!
Not splashy?!?! I am posting from that neighborhood, that is where I work, and we are the splashiest, ok i guess not. I don't think very highly of the Grog and Tankard but a gig is a gig.
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Originally posted by Celeste:
...most people out and about there are G-town students and polo/docker clad corporate goons patronizing the strip clubs...blech!
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Then who's driving all those motorcycles that are always parked up and down that block?
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Originally posted by markie:
friendly facism?
http://dictionary.reference.com/search?q=facism (http://dictionary.reference.com/search?q=facism)
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You may not win over a bunch of new fans at G&T, but there is a lot to be said for just getting out and getting some gigs under your belt.
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Originally posted by mankie:
Then who's driving all those motorcycles that are always parked up and down that block?
motorcycles? there is a vespa dealership here now, they are hideous
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More losers who frequent strip clubs?
Most people on motorcycles in DC are lawyer goons trying to look cool.
Originally posted by mankie:
Originally posted by Celeste:
...most people out and about there are G-town students and polo/docker clad corporate goons patronizing the strip clubs...blech!
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Then who's driving all those motorcycles that are always parked up and down that block? [/b]
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Originally posted by Robert Pollard:
Originally posted by Celeste:
I used to live over there...it's just not a very splashy "strip" in general...most people out and about there are G-town students and polo/docker clad corporate goons patronizing the strip clubs...blech!
Not splashy?!?! I am posting from that neighborhood, that is where I work, and we are the splashiest, ok i guess not. I don't think very highly of the Grog and Tankard but a gig is a gig. [/b]
Jadetree is a stripper?
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Originally posted by Rhett Miller:
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More losers who frequent strip clubs?
Most people on motorcycles in DC are lawyer goons trying to look cool.
..so they go to the trouble of registering them in PA and WV to look cool, that's hardcore trying to look cool if you ask me.
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Originally posted by mankie:
Originally posted by Celeste:
[qb] Then who's driving all those motorcycles that are always parked up and down that block? [/b]
are you thinking of 18th street and Asylum, my surburban friend? I don't recall enough motocicletas on Wisconsin to be of note...unless you mean those silly Vespas...
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Originally posted by Celeste:
are you thinking of 18th street and Asylum, my surburban friend? I don't recall enough motocicletas on Wisconsin to be of note...unless you mean those silly Vespas...
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NOPE! If you've never seen a line of bikes, mostly Harleys, on Wisc. across from the Grog next to that baseball field then you must walk up and down that block with your head up your arse...or Rhett's.
And unless you were actually born in DC and lived there all your life, I've probably spent more time inside the city limits than you have my dear.
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I guess they don't have strip clubs in PA or WVA, or else the strippers are just so fucking fat in those states that the losers have to come here.
Originally posted by mankie:
Originally posted by Rhett Miller:
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More losers who frequent strip clubs?
Most people on motorcycles in DC are lawyer goons trying to look cool.
..so they go to the trouble of registering them in PA and WV to look cool, that's hardcore trying to look cool if you ask me. [/b]
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Originally posted by ggwâ?¢:
Jadetree is a stripper? [/b]
you just made even me nauseous
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Originally posted by mankie:
NOPE! If you've never seen a line of bikes, mostly Harleys, on Wisc. across from the Grog next to that baseball field then you must walk up and down that block with your head up your arse...or Rhett's.
And unless you were actually born in DC and lived there all your life, I've probably spent more time inside the city limits than you have my dear. [/b]
There are no motorcycles here Mankie, unless you mean at night or on the weekends, but I rarely see a line of motorcycles during the day
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Originally posted by mankie:
NOPE! If you've never seen a line of bikes, mostly Harleys, on Wisc. across from the Grog next to that baseball field then you must walk up and down that block with your head up your arse...or Rhett's.
And unless you were actually born in DC and lived there all your life, I've probably spent more time inside the city limits than you have my dear.
hmmm...well, maybe that was before I lived there...a long-ass time ago, old man!
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fascist,
shouldnt it be tankard too?
Jadetree is stripping? Where do we get to put the dollar bills?
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Originally posted by Robert Pollard:
Originally posted by ggw™:
Jadetree is a stripper? [/b]
you just made even me nauseous [/b]
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Jadetree is the queen of the ginger pubed strippers... it's the emo thing to be nowadays.. anywho..
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Originally posted by Robert Pollard:
There are no motorcycles here Mankie, unless you mean at night or on the weekends, but I rarely see a line of motorcycles during the day
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Of course I meant nights and weekends, mostly weekends.
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Originally posted by Celeste:
hmmm...well, maybe that was before I lived there...a long-ass time ago, old man!
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Oh I get it, you've lived in D.C. for what, 10 minutes? So you're now the coolio city slicker wearing your professional woman business suit and sneakers, monthy parking permit on the rear view mirror and pass code for your condo building!
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Mankie, you hang out in Glover Park? That's so yesterday, so analog.
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Originally posted by thirsty moore:
Mankie, you hang out in Glover Park? That's so yesterday, so analog.
That's me...Admiral Analog!...actually I don't, it used to be my commute to and from work. I'm a Cleveland Park dude....was there last Saturday actually. Is that digital?
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Originally posted by mankie:
Oh I get it, you've lived in D.C. for what, 10 minutes? So you're now the coolio city slicker wearing your professional woman business suit and sneakers, monthy parking permit on the rear view mirror and pass code for your condo building!
hmmm...not really...I want to move OUT of the city (at least this city), I wear a suit to work maybe about 3 times a year for Board meetings (and when I have interviews for other jobs)...I ride a bike (no car) and I rent an apartment...guess you can't peg me, baby
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so why don't you all take the grog and tankard and make it hip?
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Originally posted by Celeste:
hmmm...not really...I want to move OUT of the city (at least this city), I wear a suit to work maybe about 3 times a year for Board meetings (and when I have interviews for other jobs)...I ride a bike (no car) and I rent an
apartment...guess you can't peg me, baby
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I bet prospective employers are impressed when you ride your bike to the job interview!
All joking aside..why do you think I don't live in DC yet still spend my social time down there? I could live 'IN' New york or San Francisco but that's about it over here....not that I've seen everywhere of course so there may be a couple more.
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bragging about living in DC is so lame. big fucking shit...i live 10 minutes away in NOVA..you get to deal with more crime, terrible parking and beggers...where do i sign up?
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I know a decent band who played the G+T. I think it is a fine aplce to quite literally get some gigs under your belt. The DC scene is weird, with the big venues like 930, BC, or even Velvet Lounge tough to get in, you gotta be willing to play anywhere. Places like Staccato, Felix, Chief Ike's, Rhodeside Grill in arlington, are a step up, i think...but whatever, get known, get a following, get people to talk abouth you on the 930 board, who cares where you play, as long as someone is there to listen, all it takes is the ability to inspire one person...
Calling the G+T crappy just cause of the normal clientel is reserved for those of us with no musical talent. If youare a musician who wants to make it, no place is too crappy.
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Originally posted by mankie:
I bet prospective employers are impressed when you ride your bike to the job interview!
oh mankie, you're so auto-centric!
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Originally posted by manimtired:
bragging about living in DC is so lame. big fucking shit...i live 10 minutes away in NOVA..you get to deal with more crime, terrible parking and beggers...where do i sign up?
Goodness, the suburban angst is getting thick in here! I don't really imagine that the 10 minutes between my Glover Park apt. and your NOVA apt. really reflect a huge difference in crime, parking, or beggars. But there is definitely a difference in strip mall density, so whatever makes you happy.
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someone is full of DC pride...I'd much rather live in Arlington than DC. Are you a big dischord fan as well? This whole city is weak.
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Originally posted by manimtired:
someone is full of DC pride...I'd much rather live in Arlington than DC. Are you a big dischord fan as well? This whole city is weak.
I'm sorry, did you say something? I was too busy thinking about how cool I was for living in DC.
Truth be told, I'm just being sarcastic about DC. My only city pride is for Austin, TX. I am one of those people everyone hates who talks about how everything is better in TX. I really don't care about the difference between Arlington and DC.
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Originally posted by manimtired:
someone is full of DC pride...I'd much rather live in Arlington than DC. Are you a big dischord fan as well? This whole city is weak.
live where the hell you want to live, we dont need another city debate
oh and arlington sucks, even if the dischord house is there, dischord really started in glover park
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I have nothing against living in DC other than I can have twice the house for a quarter of the price outside of DC...and still be within 15 minutes of the 930 club, Cleveland Park and other places I like to hang out.
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i dont really care myself..it always seems the suburban kids who move into DC are the ones who think its so great.
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well dischord sucks so who really cares where it started.
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Originally posted by manimtired:
i dont really care myself..it always seems the suburban kids who move into DC are the ones who think its so great.
maybe because the suburbs suck, where are you from
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Originally posted by SueAndNotU:
I'm sorry, did you say something? I was too busy thinking about how cool I was for living in DC.
Truth be told, I'm just being sarcastic about DC. My only city pride is for Austin, TX. I am one of those people everyone hates who talks about how everything is better in TX. I really don't care about the difference between Arlington and DC.
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I'm sorry, you must be mistaken...Manchester England is the best city in the world...tons of history, wonderful Victorian architecture, great mass-transit, Culture coming out the ying yang...and the best music scene and football team you'll find anywhere. :)
I've been to TX...not impressed with Dallas Ft. Worth or San Antonio whatsoever...Austin seemed like it might be a decent town although I wasn't there long enough to find out for certain.
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ya dude! suburbs suck!! im from NOVA...
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How much house you have and what are you paying? You must have bought awhile ago. I don't see anything I want in DC or 15 mins away from DC at an affordable price. Gotta look further out.
Originally posted by mankie:
I have nothing against living in DC other than I can have twice the house for a quarter of the price outside of DC...and still be within 15 minutes of the 930 club, Cleveland Park and other places I like to hang out.
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Originally posted by manimtired:
ya dude! suburbs suck!! im from NOVA...
so where would you like to live, dude
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im doing just fine in my townhouse in arlington...thanks for asking.
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Originally posted by manimtired:
im doing just fine in my townhouse in arlington...thanks for asking.
isnt it hard living so close to a city that sucks
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Austin has one of the best music scenes in the country, miles ahead of DC. I'm sure Sue would back me up on that one. But we've already had that debate on here before.
Originally posted by mankie:
Originally posted by SueAndNotU:
I'm sorry, did you say something? I was too busy thinking about how cool I was for living in DC.
Truth be told, I'm just being sarcastic about DC. My only city pride is for Austin, TX. I am one of those people everyone hates who talks about how everything is better in TX. I really don't care about the difference between Arlington and DC.
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I'm sorry, you must be mistaken...Manchester England is the best city in the world...tons of history, wonderful Victorian architecture, great mass-transit, Culture coming out the ying yang...and the best music scene and football team you'll find anywhere. :)
I've been to TX...not impressed with Dallas Ft. Worth or San Antonio whatsoever...Austin seemed like it might be a decent town although I wasn't there long enough to find out for certain. [/b]
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yes
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[/qb][/QUOTE]I'm sorry, you must be mistaken...Manchester England is the best city in the world...tons of history, wonderful Victorian architecture, great mass-transit, Culture coming out the ying yang...and the best music scene and football team you'll find anywhere. :)
I've been to TX...not impressed with Dallas Ft. Worth or San Antonio whatsoever...Austin seemed like it might be a decent town although I wasn't there long enough to find out for certain. [/QB][/QUOTE]
I overstated my case...Dallas and Houston are both miserable highway-crammed pits. In my opinion. But Austin...ah...as they say down there "On Earth as it is in Austin." Haven't been to Manchester, unfortunately, but I'm willing to let you give it the crown for your side of the Atlantic.
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Originally posted by manimtired:
yes
I can see why you enjoy it then
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um, ya. are you one of those kids that moved to DC from the suburbs and cant get enough of it?
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Originally posted by manimtired:
um, ya. are you one of those kids that moved to DC from the suburbs and cant get enough of it?
not really a kid, but I lived in both cities and suburbs before moving to DC, and I have lived in Rockville, Alexandria, Arlington and DC while here, DC being the best by far in my opinion
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so yes, you are one of those people. just checking.
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Originally posted by manimtired:
so yes, you are one of those people. just checking.
you dont read so well huh
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New York is my favorite US city...New Yorkers are great...it's the only city I've been to stateside that you can have a normal conversation with a total stranger in a coffee shop, bar, on the street etc. Try that in DC..they're either too important to talk to you, or to scared to talk to you.
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you said you lived around DC in alexandria and arlington...then moved to DC..and you think youre pretty neat for doing so. so ya.
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Originally posted by manimtired:
you said you lived around DC in alexandria and arlington...then moved to DC..and you think youre pretty neat for doing so. so ya.
never said then, I lived in DC before ever living in DC suburbs
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For a 50K salary, you'll pay about $800 more in local income taxes in DC than in VA. Is it $800 better to live in DC? Also, aren't the rents a bit cheaper in the burbs? And the parking a bit easier? And less beggars to deal with? And less sexually harassing Hispanics if you're a cute woman? And better grocery stores in the burbs?
Originally posted by Robert Pollard:
Originally posted by manimtired:
um, ya. are you one of those kids that moved to DC from the suburbs and cant get enough of it?
not really a kid, but I lived in both cities and suburbs before moving to DC, and I have lived in Rockville, Alexandria, Arlington and DC while here, DC being the best by far in my opinion [/b]
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i got ya, you threw me off with the "before moving to DC" part.
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Originally posted by manimtired:
you said you lived around DC in alexandria and arlington...then moved to DC..and you think youre pretty neat for doing so. so ya.
Jeez, he was just stating a fact that he has lived in several cities and likes DC! Is this a sin now? I missed the part where he announced he was therefore better than anyone else. I think I'm detecting "issues"....
Calm down, manimtired! Take a nap!
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Go down South. People in general are much friendlier and apt to talk to strangers....unlike DC.
Originally posted by mankie:
New York is my favorite US city...New Yorkers are great...it's the only city I've been to stateside that you can have a normal conversation with a total stranger in a coffee shop, bar, on the street etc. Try that in DC..they're either too important to talk to you, or to scared to talk to you.
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Originally posted by mankie:
only city I've been to stateside that you can have a normal conversation with a total stranger
Yes, I find that rarely happens to me here either.....
San Francisco on the other hand was full of people willing to chat the day away, even more so than NY.
Oh and Manchester is one on Britains most violent and ugly cities. Would you really recommend anyone go on holiday to Manchester? London and Edinburgh are much better places to visit. Edinburgh is a great place to live.
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just bored at work..
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Originally posted by Rhett Miller:
For a 50K salary, you'll pay about $800 more in local income taxes in DC than in VA. Is it $800 better to live in DC? Also, aren't the rents a bit cheaper in the burbs? And the parking a bit easier? And less beggars to deal with? And less sexually harassing Hispanics if you're a cute woman? And better grocery stores in the burbs?
I am aware of all these arguments but for me it is worth it. And it must have been somewhat to you for some reason or you would not have lived in the city until now, even if you want to move.
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back and forth, back and forth...
just agree to disagree and retreat to your respective counties.
i myself am an arlingtonian. within virginia i feel some major atown pride, but i love love love dc so much. therefore, it cannot hold a candle to dc
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Originally posted by Rhett Miller:
For a 50K salary, you'll pay about $800 more in local income taxes in DC than in VA. Is it $800 better to live in DC? Also, aren't the rents a bit cheaper in the burbs? And the parking a bit easier? And less beggars to deal with? And less sexually harassing Hispanics if you're a cute woman? And better grocery stores in the burbs?
The amount of money I save by not having a car more than makes up for the higher taxes and rent. And yes I know you can get around in the burbs without a car, but its a whole lot easier in the city. Try living in NOVA and getting to some places by bus on a Sunday, all I can say is good luck.
As far as rent goes the rental market in DC has improved significantly in the last year. Its still not a renters market but its a lot better than it was a yeat ago.
I don't have a car so I don't park and I'm not a cute girl either so I don't deal with those issues.
As far as beggars go, depends on where you live in the city.
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Yes, there were a number of compelling reasons for me to move into DC proper when I was a 31 year old single guy. I think the city is a much better place to be than the burbs if you're a single person, someone whose activities revolve around city-culture activities, or someone who is not at the point where saving money is a major issue. Five years later, my priorities and intereests have changed.
Originally posted by Robert Pollard:
Originally posted by Rhett Miller:
For a 50K salary, you'll pay about $800 more in local income taxes in DC than in VA. Is it $800 better to live in DC? Also, aren't the rents a bit cheaper in the burbs? And the parking a bit easier? And less beggars to deal with? And less sexually harassing Hispanics if you're a cute woman? And better grocery stores in the burbs?
I am aware of all these arguments but for me it is worth it. And it must have been somewhat to you for some reason or you would not have lived in the city until now, even if you want to move. [/b]
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Originally posted by paige:
back and forth, back and forth...
just agree to disagree and retreat to your respective counties.
i myself am an arlingtonian. within virginia i feel some major atown pride, but i love love love dc so much. therefore, it cannot hold a candle to dc
Paige, the voice of reason
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Originally posted by SueAndNotU:
Paige, the voice of reason
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Originally posted by redsock:
I know a decent band who played the G+T. I think it is a fine aplce to quite literally get some gigs under your belt. The DC scene is weird, with the big venues like 930, BC, or even Velvet Lounge tough to get in, you gotta be willing to play anywhere. Places like Staccato, Felix, Chief Ike's, Rhodeside Grill in arlington, are a step up, i think...but whatever, get known, get a following, get people to talk abouth you on the 930 board, who cares where you play, as long as someone is there to listen, all it takes is the ability to inspire one person...
Calling the G+T crappy just cause of the normal clientel is reserved for those of us with no musical talent. If youare a musician who wants to make it, no place is too crappy.
I agree, get your feet wet there. And so what, bring all your friends. It's a gig, there will be a few people there who don't know you, and it's one way to start getting your name known around town. It's like those temp jobs you get out of college -- not very glamoruous, but more resume filler!
I have friends who played there all the time, but that was 12 years ago, which means I was 12 years younger as well. At 23, the place seemed cool as hell to me. (There was no Black Cat, no Velvet Lounge -- but there was DC Space and 15 Minutes!). Play where you can, and set your sights onto the next bigger place. That may mean the 'burbs, which is *also* okay!
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I couldn't imagine life without a car. No mountains, no beach, no road trips to Baltimore, no road trips to visit friends and family, etc etc etc.
I don't see NOT having a car as any sort of asset.
[/qb][/QUOTE]The amount of money I save by not having a car more than makes up for the higher taxes and rent. And yes I know you can get around in the burbs without a car, but its a whole lot easier in the city. Try living in NOVA and getting to some places by bus on a Sunday, all I can say is good luck.
As far as rent goes the rental market in DC has improved significantly in the last year. Its still not a renters market but its a lot better than it was a yeat ago.
I don't have a car so I don't park and I'm not a cute girl either so I don't deal with those issues.
As far as beggars go, depends on where you live in the city. [/QB][/QUOTE]
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Originally posted by Rhett Miller:
I couldn't imagine life without a car. No mountains, no beach, no road trips to Baltimore, no road trips to visit friends and family, etc etc etc.
I don't see NOT having a car as any sort of asset.
The amount of money I save by not having a car more than makes up for the higher taxes and rent. And yes I know you can get around in the burbs without a car, but its a whole lot easier in the city. Try living in NOVA and getting to some places by bus on a Sunday, all I can say is good luck.
As far as rent goes the rental market in DC has improved significantly in the last year. Its still not a renters market but its a lot better than it was a yeat ago.
I don't have a car so I don't park and I'm not a cute girl either so I don't deal with those issues.
As far as beggars go, depends on where you live in the city. [/QB][/QUOTE] [/QB][/QUOTE]
See, that's what *friends* with cars are for! I'm carless too, and while grocery trips are a pain in the arse, a car payment would probably cut into my booze money, and we can't be having that.
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Originally posted by Rhett Miller:
I couldn't imagine life without a car. No mountains, no beach, no road trips to Baltimore, no road trips to visit friends and family, etc etc etc.
I don't see NOT having a car as any sort of asset.
I do have friends that have cars. So there are opportunities to go places. However any friends and family that are not accessible by public transportation are too far to get to via car anyway. Besides if I wanted to I can rent a car once a month and go somewhere. It would still be cheaper than owning a car that I would drive no more than every few weeks.
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I guess it depends on how often you go places. In the summer, we go somewhere out of town nearly every weekend. When we drive to my relatives in SC and NY, we tend to want to use those places as launching pads to excursion that may require more driving.
Also, the Safeway in Adams Morgan is so bad one needs to drive elsewhere to get to a good grocery store.
Besides, even with the crappy parking situation, your cart is a lot closer to you than a car rental place, I would think.
Originally posted by raebyddet:
Originally posted by Rhett Miller:
I couldn't imagine life without a car. No mountains, no beach, no road trips to Baltimore, no road trips to visit friends and family, etc etc etc.
I don't see NOT having a car as any sort of asset.
I do have friends that have cars. So there are opportunities to go places. However any friends and family that are not accessible by public transportation are too far to get to via car anyway. Besides if I wanted to I can rent a car once a month and go somewhere. It would still be cheaper than owning a car that I would drive no more than every few weeks. [/b]
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Originally posted by Rhett Miller:
I couldn't imagine life without a car. No mountains, no beach, no road trips to Baltimore, no road trips to visit friends and family, etc etc etc.
I don't see NOT having a car as any sort of asset.
oh Rhett, you're so auto-centric...
I'm glad YOU have a car, but it was cool not having one when I was on my own...
as far as this big city mouse/suburb mouse debate, all I did was teasingly call mankie "my suburban friend" when we was babbling about some motorcylces in Glover Park that I never remembered seeing...so, sorry it started all this!
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Originally posted by Rhett Miller:
I guess it depends on how often you go places.
I agree. And for me it just comes down to the fact that I don't want the hassle of owning a vehicle.
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I think we're all aware of the pros and cons of living in the suburbs vs. living in the city. Ultimately, we choose what is best for us individually. Guess we should try to refrain for putting down somebody for being different and having different priorities than ourselves. Otherwise, we ened up sounding like dumbasses.
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or ignoranuses
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or car salesmen
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Originally posted by Rhett Miller:
Guess we should try to refrain for putting down somebody for being different and having different priorities than ourselves.
You mean shut down this board?
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oh yeah, i forgot. that's where self-esteem is derived from....from thinking you're better than others...duh what was i thiking
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Originally posted by ggwâ?¢:
Originally posted by Rhett Miller:
Guess we should try to refrain for putting down somebody for being different and having different priorities than ourselves.
You mean shut down this board? [/b]
I had the same thought.
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Originally posted by Rhett Miller:
oh yeah, i forgot. that's where self-esteem is derived from....from thinking you're better than others...duh what was i thiking
Thinking you're better than others is not sufficient. You must let others know that you are better than them.
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yeah but what if I wanted to live at the grog and tankard? that's cool right? Fresh Fields across the street...I could ask for a ride on the motorcycle if I needed a ride...there's running water in the alley behind it..
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Originally posted by chknfngrs:
yeah but what if I wanted to live at the grog and tankard? that's cool right? Fresh Fields across the street...I could ask for a ride on the motorcycle if I needed a ride...there's running water in the alley behind it..
and there is a badass indian restaurant right next door! within walking distance! woo! non-car owners:1. car owners: 0
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I say blow the roof off the dump!!!
No matter what you think of their music (and I'm definitely not a fan), take a leaf from Good Charolette's book. They started out playing anywhere they could and look where they are now. For one, it gives you live practice which, as you know, is different from plain old practice where you can stop and start much more easily and don't have to worry about stage presence. Go play your little hearts out and get it all polished up for when you play the better venues. It can only help.
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Originally posted by paige:
and there is a badass indian restaurant right next door! within walking distance! woo! non-car owners:1. car owners: 0
Heritage India is fantastic
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Originally posted by paige:
and there is a badass indian restaurant right next door! within walking distance! woo! non-car owners:1. car owners: 0 [/b]
There is a good BBQ place called Rocklands as well.
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None of these places cook as good as me and my sweetie.
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Originally posted by mankie:
New York is my favorite US city...New Yorkers are great...it's the only city I've been to stateside that you can have a normal conversation with a total stranger in a coffee shop, bar, on the street etc. Try that in DC..they're either too important to talk to you, or to scared to talk to you.
Oh, this is so true!!!
As much as I like DC and it's people, this is my biggest grudge against them. Once you meet them, they are fine, but Heaven forbid that you're alone in a crowd with them. They are some of the most anti-social people that I've ever had the displeasure to come across. And talking to them first doesn't work. They politely answer and then continue to ignore you. I use to feel like a social outcast in DC until I found out that everyone else has the same problem there.
Thank God for this board. It cuts through all of that crap and gets people meeting new faces, which is one of the reasons that I love it so much. ;)
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That's because usually when a stranger talks to you in DC, he's usually trying to scam some money out of you rather than trying to be friendly. Thus, we become trained to ignore strangers talking to us. Bound to happnen a couple of times as I walk to the metro right now.
Originally posted by Jaguär:
Originally posted by mankie:
New York is my favorite US city...New Yorkers are great...it's the only city I've been to stateside that you can have a normal conversation with a total stranger in a coffee shop, bar, on the street etc. Try that in DC..they're either too important to talk to you, or to scared to talk to you.
Oh, this is so true!!!
As much as I like DC and it's people, this is my biggest grudge against them. Once you meet them, they are fine, but Heaven forbid that you're alone in a crowd with them. They are some of the most anti-social people that I've ever had the displeasure to come across. And talking to them first doesn't work. They politely answer and then continue to ignore you. I use to feel like a social outcast in DC until I found out that everyone else has the same problem there.
Thank God for this board. It cuts through all of that crap and gets people meeting new faces, which is one of the reasons that I love it so much. ;) [/b]
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Originally posted by raebyddet:
There is a good BBQ place called Rocklands as well.
Rocklands is overrated
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So, where is there a good bbq place in DC?
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Originally posted by Rhett Miller:
Yes, there were a number of compelling reasons for me to move into DC proper when I was a 31 year old single guy. .
stores in the burbs?
That would be the amount of gay men or women willing to put a strap on and buttfuck you, right Rhett?? hey, I'm just stating what you've said before time and again...
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Originally posted by thirsty moore:
So, where is there a good bbq place in DC?
I have not been to one, but doesn't mean that there isn't one.
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Originally posted by Robert Pollard:
Originally posted by thirsty moore:
So, where is there a good bbq place in DC?
I have not been to one, but doesn't mean that there isn't one. [/b]
Yes indeed...I'm still looking. Rocklands is just so-so...Heritage India, on the other hand, is incredible, but very pricey. And I guess Tandoori is sort of Indian BBQ...
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Originally posted by thirsty moore:
So, where is there a good bbq place in DC?
i like old glory immensely. . .aside from having earl campbell hot links, red hot and blue is even more overrated than rocklands.
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Originally posted by Robert Pollard:
Heritage India is fantastic
i know, i especially love the upstairs seating so you can see wisconsin avenue from above. mmmmm vindalu...
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Originally posted by thirsty moore:
So, where is there a good bbq place in DC?
you may have to - eek! - venture out into the burbs for some bbq... they just have that backhome touch.
or do they?
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There's some sort of Mongolian BBQ place in Bethesda that is so-so. Nothing special, but I prefer to have someone to put it all together for me as I don't know those foods well enough to come up with the best combinations myself. Besides, when I go to a restaurant, I just want to sit back, relax, and enjoy myself. Let them do all of the cooking.
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Originally posted by walkman:
Heritage India, on the other hand, is incredible, but very pricey. And I guess Tandoori is sort of Indian BBQ...
so i guess we wont' be having our engagement dinner there? ;)
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Originally posted by thirsty moore:
So, where is there a good bbq place in DC?
Can't think of any worth mentioning within D.C., but The Old Hickory Grille in Falls Church is one that I would recommend.
All of the really good ones are near Baltimore.
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no good bbq comes from DC.
go west, don't stop until Owensboro KY. stop at first gas station, ask for Old Hickory or Moonlite. Then try the burgoo.
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Originally posted by markie:
Oh and Manchester is one on Britains most violent and ugly cities. Would you really recommend anyone go on holiday to Manchester? London and Edinburgh are much better places to visit. Edinburgh is a great place to live.
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When was the last time you spent any time in Manc?
I would indeed suggest Manc as a place to visit for a tourist, depending on what they were looking for of course...beaches, probably not, but then again I wouldn't recommend Britain at all.
Your point is well taken with Edinburgh, but London is a shithole....once you've seen the silly men in big wooly hats outside the big mansion, all those jewels that nobody ever wears and the big fuck-off clock with the loud bell that's called Ben...that's pretty much it really. (I may be a little biased of course, but markie is biased against Manc because we've produced more excellent music than Peterborough!!)
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Originally posted by mankie:
Originally posted by markie:
Manc because we've produced more excellent music than Peterborough!!) [/b]
Well Peterborough hasnt produced any excellent music so Manc wins hands down there. Peterborough is a shite whole as well though. If anyone was thinking of going on holiday in Peterborough I would suggest a trip to the asylum instead.
I havent been to manc for 9 years, there was really not that much to do there, great live scene though.
London has it all the best shopping, the highest chance of bumping into a B-list celeb. The best museuems and galleries. I find it quite similar to a low rise New York.
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Originally posted by markie:
London has it all the best shopping, the highest chance of bumping into a B-list celeb. The best museuems and galleries. I find it quite similar to a low rise New York.
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But please be careful not to step on the drunken Australians as you walk through the streets of London.
Did you know there's a train that leaves London for Manc on a Friday night just for the night-clubbers? And the shopping in Manc is much better these days thanks to the IRA...the Arndale is nothing more than a boil on the arse of the city centre, I'll give you that. That place reminds me of one of Prince Charles' quotes..."The Luftwaffe did more for British architecture than all of the British architects combined"..or something like that. We do have Granada studios were you can walk down Coronation Street though... :roll:
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You Brits are soooooo gayyyyyy. Who cares about the shopping?
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Originally posted by Rhett Miller:
Who cares about the shopping?
By the look of the way you dress...obviously not you.
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How often have you seen the way I dress?
I mean, buy a few nice things online and you're basically set. Most of the clothing items I've ever been complimented on wwere things I found in thrift stores. And I don't recall any London thrift stores being all that much better than places here.
As far as other shopping items...American cities are much better for used cd's...and what household items does London have to offer that other places don't?
Originally posted by mankie:
Originally posted by Rhett Miller:
Who cares about the shopping?
By the look of the way you dress...obviously not you. [/b]
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Originally posted by Rhett Miller:
Most of the clothing items I've ever been complimented on wwere things I found in thrift stores.
hipster....
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Originally posted by Rhett Miller:
How often have you seen the way I dress?
Once was enough.
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Originally posted by Rhett Miller:
[QB] As far as other shopping items...American cities are much better for used cd's...and what household items does London have to offer that other places don't?
Sure America is cheaper for everything. But you fail to realise people buy more than CDs and houshold items.
You need a trip down old Bond St to check out the most expensive jewellers I have seen, just off that is the Vivienne westwood and alessi store.....
Go to Park Lane and you can walk into an Aston Martin, Tag Mclaren and Bristol showrooms.....
Just overpriced stuff that is cool to look at.
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Ahhh, ye olde Bond street.
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What do people need other than cd's, some functional clothes, household items, and good eats? I mean, what other material items are really necessary for happiness?
Why is it cool to look at overpriced stuff? I think the world is just too full of goddamn sutff.
Originally posted by markie:
Originally posted by Rhett Miller:
[QB] As far as other shopping items...American cities are much better for used cd's...and what household items does London have to offer that other places don't?
Sure America is cheaper for everything. But you fail to realise people buy more than CDs and houshold items.
You need a trip down old Bond St to check out the most expensive jewellers I have seen, just off that is the Vivienne westwood and alessi store.....
Go to Park Lane and you can walk into an Aston Martin, Tag Mclaren and Bristol showrooms.....
Just overpriced stuff that is cool to look at. [/b]
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Originally posted by Rhett Miller:
What do people need other than cd's, some functional clothes, household items, and good eats? I mean, what other material items are really necessary for happiness?
Why is it cool to look at overpriced stuff? I think the world is just too full of goddamn sutff.
With that kind of attitude men would still be living in caves and Cds would never have been invented. Isnt part of the human condition to always strive for something better?
Most of the things I namechecked could be described, at least loosely, as art. Does art not lift your soul?
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Not really. I tend to be more inspired my nature's creations than by man's creations. You know, like blue skies, green grass, beautiful mountains, placid beaches.
As far as man's creations, I'm more thankful and feel uplifted for stuff like indoor plumbing, dentist's equipment (I'm going today), and eyeglasses that help me see than I am for frovolities such as art.
I mean, art is nice I guess, but I'd much rather look down from a mountain and see the view rather than look at a picture on a wall.
Originally posted by markie:
Originally posted by Rhett Miller:
What do people need other than cd's, some functional clothes, household items, and good eats? I mean, what other material items are really necessary for happiness?
Why is it cool to look at overpriced stuff? I think the world is just too full of goddamn sutff.
With that kind of attitude men would still be living in caves and Cds would never have been invented. Isnt part of the human condition to always strive for something better?
Most of the things I namechecked could be described, at least loosely, as art. Does art not lift your soul? [/b]
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Of course when I speak of frivolity, frivolity comes in degrees. I guess there is just too much shit produced in the world. I mean, just think of all the "stuff" that is made in the attempts to sell it and make money. There is just too much useless shit in the world.
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Rhett, your kids are going to hate Christmas and birthdays.
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Go to a flea market in Frederick and see if you don't disagree with me.
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The joys of living in a capitalist consumer society. If you dont like it you know where you can go.
People buy what they want. If people have bad judgement and terrible taste then that is their want.
You are stabbing at the heart of art and freedom now. Why not add a few anti-humanist jibes to complete the trilogy?
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I think Rhett is again forgetting that not everyone wants to live his life. Not that there is anything wrong with his life, it's just not everyones' choice.
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Originally posted by Rhett Miller:
Not really. I tend to be more inspired my nature's creations than by man's creations. You know, like blue skies, green grass, beautiful mountains, placid beaches.
They have all that stuff over here in the USA so why did you waste all your money going to Europe...pretty bloody frivolous of you if you ask me.
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Well why would you go th a musuem in NYC if you can go to a museum in DC? If it's something you appreciate, you enjoy the subtle differences that a different mountain has (or the nudity of a European beach) If it's something you don't appreciate, you're right...it's all basically the same.
Originally posted by mankie:
Originally posted by Rhett Miller:
Not really. I tend to be more inspired my nature's creations than by man's creations. You know, like blue skies, green grass, beautiful mountains, placid beaches.
They have all that stuff over here in the USA so why did you waste all your money going to Europe...pretty bloody frivolous of you if you ask me. [/b]
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Originally posted by Rhett Miller:
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Well why would you go th a musuem in NYC if you can go to a museum in DC? If it's something you appreciate, you enjoy the subtle differences that a different mountain has (or the nudity of a European beach) If it's something you don't appreciate, you're right...it's all basically the same.
I thought only low-lifes enjoyed seeing naked women...and why not just drive to NC, WVA or PA to see their mountains...different from VA ones, and a lot less expensive to get there.
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Only low life PAY to see naked women, while keeping their own clothes on.
Having been to the mountains in NC, WV, and PA, I don't see them as drastically different than those in VA. Yes, they make for pleasant road trips, but they're certainly not the Alps.
Originally posted by mankie:
Originally posted by Rhett Miller:
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Well why would you go th a musuem in NYC if you can go to a museum in DC? If it's something you appreciate, you enjoy the subtle differences that a different mountain has (or the nudity of a European beach) If it's something you don't appreciate, you're right...it's all basically the same.
I thought only low-lifes enjoyed seeing naked women...and why not just drive to NC, WVA or PA to see their mountains...different from VA ones, and a lot less expensive to get there. [/b]
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Originally posted by mankie:
Originally posted by Rhett Miller:
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I thought only low-lifes enjoyed seeing naked women [/b]
mankie finally admits to being gay?
The nude female form is a figure of absolute beauty. why do you think it is the subject of so much art?
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Originally posted by Rhett Miller:
Only low life PAY to see naked women, while keeping their own clothes on. BEING nude is at least as much fun as seeing other people nude.
Having been to the mountains in NC, WV, and PA, I don't see them as drastically different than those in VA. Yes, they make for pleasant road trips, but they're certainly not the Alps.
Originally posted by mankie:
Originally posted by Rhett Miller:
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Well why would you go th a musuem in NYC if you can go to a museum in DC? If it's something you appreciate, you enjoy the subtle differences that a different mountain has (or the nudity of a European beach) If it's something you don't appreciate, you're right...it's all basically the same.
I thought only low-lifes enjoyed seeing naked women...and why not just drive to NC, WVA or PA to see their mountains...different from VA ones, and a lot less expensive to get there. [/b]
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He was referring to my comments yesterday that losers frequent strip clubs, get with the program Markie.
Originally posted by markie:
Originally posted by mankie:
Originally posted by Rhett Miller:
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I thought only low-lifes enjoyed seeing naked women [/b]
mankie finally admits to being gay?
The nude female form is a figure of absolute beauty. why do you think it is the subject of so much art? [/b]
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Originally posted by Rhett Miller:
[QB] He was referring to my comments yesterday that losers frequent strip clubs, get with the program Markie.
I know, it just seemed like a statement pregnant with ridicule. I couldnt help myself.
Is there any straight man that does not enjoy the beauty of a naked woman?
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I don't know, I can imagine some geek scientists or statisticians or economists who are probably so into their work that they could care less about naked women.
If only nature granted us the ability to ONLY appreciate our maked spouses...I guess that's something we have to train ourselves to do.
Originally posted by markie:
Originally posted by Rhett Miller:
[QB] He was referring to my comments yesterday that losers frequent strip clubs, get with the program Markie.
I know, it just seemed like a statement pregnant with ridicule. I couldnt help myself.
Is there any straight man that does not enjoy the beauty of a naked woman? [/b]
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Originally posted by Rhett Miller:
[QB] I don't know, I can imagine some geek scientists or statisticians or economists who are probably so into their work that they could care less about naked women.
If only nature granted us the ability to ONLY appreciate our maked spouses...I guess that's something we have to train ourselves to do.
the geekier the person, the deeper the appreciation.
Its always good to look at other naked forms. Its not like you die when you get married.
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Originally posted by markie:
mankie finally admits to being gay?
The nude female form is a figure of absolute beauty. why do you think it is the subject of so much art?
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I am definately a fully fledged card carrying lesbian...nothing better than getting it on with a chick!
err, some of them aren't exactly figures of absolute beauty...Oprah, Roseanne, Calista, KD etc.
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Originally posted by Rhett Miller:
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Only low life PAY to see naked women, while keeping their own clothes on.
I don't think there's a cover charge to get in Good Guys.