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=> GENERAL DISCUSSION => Topic started by: jadetree on February 11, 2003, 11:24:00 am
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Sat 06/21/03 Norah Jones Wolf Trap
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puke, her cd sucks so bad that i posted to someone in england.
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Her cd is so good that I gave a copy to my mom.
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<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Arial, Veranda">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Rhett Miller:<BR><B>Her cd is so good that I gave a copy to my mom.</B><HR></BLOCKQUOTE><P>I did the same thing.
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My mom usually listens to stuff like Yanni and Enya, so I hope this was a push in the right direction. Also gave her some Billie Holiday, Chet Baker, and Cassandra Wilson. Said she liked them all, but you know how moms are.<BR> I always wished my dad had lived long enough for me to more fully share my love for country music with him.<P> <BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Arial, Veranda">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by jadetree:<BR><B> I did the same thing.</B><HR></BLOCKQUOTE><P>
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Oops didn't mean to bash Mankie's favorite lovemaking cd artist, Enya.
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<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Arial, Veranda">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Rhett Miller:<BR><B> My mom usually listens to stuff like Yanni and Enya, so I hope this was a push in the right direction. Also gave her some Billie Holiday, Chet Baker, and Cassandra Wilson. Said she liked them all, but you know how moms are.<BR> I always wished my dad had lived long enough for me to more fully share my love for country music with him.<P> </B><HR></BLOCKQUOTE><P>My mom used to pretty much listen to The Beatles and Frank Sinatra, but last time I was home I was surprised to see she had added that latest Rolling Stones collection (Hot Licks?), the latest Springsteen and Waylon Jennings to her car. She then got the Rod Stewart singing American classics cd for xmas that was just awful. I gave her Wilco (YHF) as well, and she seemed to like it.
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bah ha ha<P>making fun at your mom's expense.<P>bah ha ha ha ha
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<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Arial, Veranda">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by jadetree:<BR><B> I did the same thing.</B><HR></BLOCKQUOTE><P>me three!
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norah jones is fiona apple with a full frontal lobotomy.
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<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Arial, Veranda">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by BookerT:<BR><B>norah jones is fiona apple with a full frontal lobotomy.</B><HR></BLOCKQUOTE><P>I totally disagree...<BR>What makes you say that?<p>[This message has been edited by Celeste (edited 02-11-2003).]
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Haven't see videos or interviews with either of them, but in their music, Norah comes off as a woman whereas Fiona comes off as a pouty girl.<P> <BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Arial, Veranda">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by BookerT:<BR><B>norah jones is fiona apple with a full frontal lobotomy.</B><HR></BLOCKQUOTE><P>
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It is a great disc.....My Mom got one from me as well this year...along with Cassandra Wilson and Marcia Ball CD's as well.....
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<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Arial, Veranda">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Rhett Miller:<BR><B>Haven't see videos or interviews with either of them, but in their music, Norah comes off as a woman whereas Fiona comes off as a pouty girl.<P> </B><HR></BLOCKQUOTE><P>ah well then give me the pouty girl everytime.<P>Norah Jones is a bit too close to the easy listening section for my liking.
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Is Nick Drake too close to easy listening to you?<P> <BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Arial, Veranda">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by markie:<BR><B> ah well then give me the pouty girl everytime.<P>Norah Jones is a bit too close to the easy listening section for my liking.</B><HR></BLOCKQUOTE><P>
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I do like Nick Drake's songs but they are about as lively as a morphine drip.
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I dont really know Nick Drake well enough to comment. But if thats what Thirsty says, well I trust him.
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Lambchop seems rather close to easy listening. Though in my book that's not necessarily a bad thing. They have the same jazz-country inflection as Norah Jones. What's the difference?<P>And she's nicer to look at than Kurt Wagner...
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that third week in june is the jazz and blues festival at wolftrap..interesting choice for that saturday nite<P>
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<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Arial, Veranda">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Rhett Miller:<BR><B><BR>And she's nicer to look at than Kurt Wagner...</B><HR></BLOCKQUOTE><P>Ahh, but Lambchop is choc full of bitterness and melancholy. Norah always sounds a little too sweet.<P>Personally I quite like watching Kurt on stage, I think he is an impressive performer. In a low key way of course.<P>I cant comment on Norah.
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Norah is pretty cool. Saw her once at the 9:30, good show. Now I am thinking of her CD for my mom...
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eeeeechhh [insert convincing gagging noise here] norah jones is a little too whiny and bluesy for my tastes... plus, any time i turn on the radio that stupid song song is playing. it's so overplayed... oh i am sick of it<P>
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Gillian Welch is opening...should be a nice double bill...
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I dunno how I feel about her. She doesn't really seem like she feels her lyrics. I don't enjoy music where artists don't give their whole heart into their singing. I just read that her core audience is mainly people pushin 50. The Grammy's sucked this year, mainly because their music was horrible except for a few acts, and partly because it was pretty much Norah walking up and accepting her awards.
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<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Arial, Veranda">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by BOOMERANG1313:<BR><B>I dunno how I feel about her. She doesn't really seem like she feels her lyrics. I don't enjoy music where artists don't give their whole heart into their singing. <BR></B><HR></BLOCKQUOTE><P>I'm no great fan, but there's something to be said for the art of subtlety.<P>
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<A HREF="http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/cms.dll/html/uncomp/articleshow?artid=38470590" TARGET=_blank>http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/cms.dll/html/uncomp/articleshow?artid=38470590[/url] <P>So Ravi split before Norah was ever born... good thing for Norah's music that that sitar crap never ruined her music like it did the Beatles!<BR>
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The article you are referring to was David Segal's usual crap in the Post.<BR> I saw Norah for free at the Kennedy Center a month before her big record came out, and later at the 9:30 when it was starting to take off. Age-wise, both audiences were a refreshing mix on 20, 30, 40, and gasp, 50somethings. A good mix of races, and couples of varying sexual orientations. Granted, someone in my party (not me) complained that the audience was full of yuppies, but hey this is DC.<P> I also disagreed with the aforementioned article in that it was claiming that Bruce Springsteen's core audience was younger than Norah Jones. Give me a break! Are there really that many people under the age of 30 who listen to Bruce Springsteen?<P> <BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Arial, Veranda">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by BOOMERANG1313:<BR><B>I dunno how I feel about her. She doesn't really seem like she feels her lyrics. I don't enjoy music where artists don't give their whole heart into their singing. I just read that her core audience is mainly people pushin 50. The Grammy's sucked this year, mainly because their music was horrible except for a few acts, and partly because it was pretty much Norah walking up and accepting her awards.</B><HR></BLOCKQUOTE><P>
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My biggest beef with norah jones' beautiful album is that some of the material is a bit tame. but it is a beautiful album, and her talent is stunning. personally i'm happy to see the grammys go to someone talented instead of the usual boring springsteen stuff, but the awards are really unimportant.
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I'll agree that it is tame in places... aknowledging that there is a difference between tame and subtle. The album was actually re-recorded with a different producer. I wonder if he smoothed the edges out too much in places. After all, this is the same guy who produced Phil Collins' wonderful "Against All Odds".<P> I'd like to see her take a shot at country. She is a big Willie Nelson fan. One fears that the next album may end up just trying to be a carbon copy of this one.
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Alicia Keys<BR>Jody Watley<BR>Marc Cohn<BR>Ric Astley<BR>Shelby Lynne<P>This is the fate that awaits Norah Jones. Her second album will sell well on the coattails of the first, but in ten years, the only place you'll find her is an a "Best of the 'Oughts" compilation.
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<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Arial, Veranda">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by BookerT:<BR><B>norah jones is fiona apple with a full frontal lobotomy.</B><HR></BLOCKQUOTE><P>dont say that sort of thing about Fiona Apple.<P>thats mean!
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<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Arial, Veranda">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by ggw:<BR><B>Alicia Keys<BR>Jody Watley<BR>Marc Cohn<BR>Ric Astley<BR>Shelby Lynne<P>This is the fate that awaits Norah Jones. Her second album will sell well on the coattails of the first, but in ten years, the only place you'll find her is an a "Best of the 'Oughts" compilation.</B><HR></BLOCKQUOTE><P>can we add Fiona Apple to that list. Cause i love her, but where the hell is she??<P>gone i suppose
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Shelby Lynne's album that won her best new artist was actually her sixth album. Unfortunately, she tried to go in a more rock oriented approach on her follow up, and it blew. I still think she'll makae strong comeback.<P> As for the other artist on the list, they simply lacked talent. I think Norah has more talent than them, and will be on the cusp in the resurgance of roots music for several albums to come.
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<A HREF="http://www.rockonthenet.com/grammy/newartist.htm" TARGET=_blank>http://www.rockonthenet.com/grammy/newartist.htm[/url] <P>its a list of the best new artists....<P>If you were not picked between the mid60's and mid 70's it appears to be a kiss of death.<P>Sheryl Crow and Sade are the only people who stand out to me at least as exceptions.
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Mariah and Christina still appear to be going strong...<P>Plus, what if Norah's next album only sells a quarter of what this one does. Does that make her a failure? I don't think the album was intended to be a major selling album anyway. Released on the Blue Note jazz label, I think the intention was to find a small, comfortable niche market.<p>[This message has been edited by Rhett Miller (edited 02-26-2003).]
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<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Arial, Veranda">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Rhett Miller:<BR><B>Mariah and Christina still appear to be going strong...<P>Plus, what if Norah's next album only sells a quarter of what this one does. Does that make her a failure? I don't think the album was intended to be a major selling album anyway. Released on the Blue Note jazz label, I think the intention was to find a small, comfortable niche market.<P>[This message has been edited by Rhett Miller (edited 02-26-2003).]</B><HR></BLOCKQUOTE><P>Christina is still shifting product,but has got much worse musically. Mariah is dead and gone, getting dropped by EMI sealed her fate. <P>Norah Jones sold 5 million albums in the US. If the next sells 1.25 million I doubt she will be heading back to a trailer park.<P>
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i'm a bit late into this discussion... and i'm too lazy to read every post, but did anyone recall when Lauryn Hill was this huge deal and she won about 852 grammys for that one album, and then she just kind of dropped off the face of the earth? will that happen with nora jones?<BR>
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Lauryn Hill was pretty "successful" with the Fugees before her solo project.<P>Like Jones, just because she "drops off the face of the earth" doesn't mean the work that was recognized was no good.<P>I think Lauryn Hill's Miseducation and Jone's record are both very solid!
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Are you sure? I thought her Unplugged album from last year was well received...but I don't know enough about her to say for certain.<P> <BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Arial, Veranda">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by paige:<BR><B>i'm a bit late into this discussion... and i'm too lazy to read every post, but did anyone recall when Lauryn Hill was this huge deal and she won about 852 grammys for that one album, and then she just kind of dropped off the face of the earth? will that happen with nora jones?</B><HR></BLOCKQUOTE><P>
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<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Arial, Veranda">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Celeste:<BR><B>Lauryn Hill was pretty "successful" with the Fugees before her solo project.<P>Like Jones, just because she "drops off the face of the earth" doesn't mean the work that was recognized was no good.<P>I think Lauryn Hill's Miseducation and Jone's record are both very solid!</B><HR></BLOCKQUOTE>i know i know... and yeah the fugees were/are pretty popular. i just mean that Hill's solo career was made out to be this prolific thing (and her record did do very well and isn't bad) but then it just kind of ... pleh. you know? i really like nora jones, her voice is great and she doesn't seem to get caught up in all the stupid music industry crap. i just hope she can keep up with how fast the media is moving or she'll get lost in the shuffle<P>
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<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Arial, Veranda">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Henry Dark:<BR><B> Granted, someone in my party (not me) complained that the audience was full of yuppies, but hey this is DC.<BR> </B><HR></BLOCKQUOTE><P>I don't get what the whinning about yuppies is all about.. If I started making double or triple of what I'm earning right now and fall into the yuppie category I'd still like the same music and go to shows.. I don't understand the resentment of the fookin lazy and broke... I'd rather be a yuppie than a hippie ...<P>
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<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Arial, Veranda">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Fico:<BR><B> I don't get what the whinning about yuppies is all about.. If I started making double or triple of what I'm earning right now and fall into the yuppie category I'd still like the same music and go to shows.. I don't understand the resentment of the fookin lazy and broke... I'd rather be a yuppie than a hippie ...<P></B><HR></BLOCKQUOTE><P>Maybe cause they were smoking fucking cigars and yapping on their phones and made numerous trips back and forth from the bar to buy their cheesy little tonic drinks? Don't know for sure...<P>Also, how much money you make doesn't make one a "yuppie"...it's more like your attitude...however, I think the term is kind of outdated and I, for one, am going to try to come up with something better and more appropriately descriptive to call those oblivious richer than me types
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<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Arial, Veranda">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Rhett Miller:<BR><B>Are you sure? I thought her Unplugged album from last year was well received...but I don't know enough about her to say for certain.<BR></B><HR></BLOCKQUOTE><P>The Unplugged album (ahem...double album) was shite. 10 minute rambles showcasing shocking levels of pretension. Full-on self-destructive mode. That's a real concern for a talent like Norah Jones.
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Someone I know had the best term for those people and I do agree yuppie is a bit dated, but here is the term someone used and I absolutely love it (mostly towards women)..<P>"resume chasers"<P> <BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Arial, Veranda">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Celeste:<BR><B> Also, how much money you make doesn't make one a "yuppie"...it's more like your attitude...however, I think the term is kind of outdated and I, for one, am going to try to come up with something better and more appropriately descriptive to call those oblivious richer than me types</B><HR></BLOCKQUOTE>