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=> GENERAL DISCUSSION => Topic started by: nkotb on August 17, 2007, 09:20:00 am
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Maybe this is too easy of a target, but I really don't get why Maroon 5 is popular. The band is one of the homeliest groups I've ever seen; they look like a non-model version of the Kings of Leon. Adam Levine is easily the best looking, but even he's about 5 shades too geeky. And on top of that, his singing isn't even good. I caught the band on the Today Show this morning, and live they're about the most boring sight I've seen. Hell, I dance better than these goofs.
Just to prove I'm not totally biased against the mainstream, I can totally get the appeal of bands like Fall Out Boy or My Chemical Romance. Hell, if I was in high school now and saw a bunch of guys with tattoos jumping all over the place and screaming, I'd be psyched too. But this Maroon 5 shit is beyond me.
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agreed. About Maroon 5.
I also feel that way about Nickelback or 3 Doors Down, or any of those other jock cock "rock bands" that all sound the same.
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Hell, that's just shooting fish in an Elmo bowl. Here are some groups who are lauded on this site that I don't get:
Daft Punk
Decemberists
LCD Soundsystem
Silversun Pickups
Spoon
Modest Mouse
Panda Bear
Yo La Tengo (I don't dislike them, but I've tried again and again to get into Heart Beats as One and the new one, and they just don't grab me)
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yeah, radio bands are too easy, because we all know they are only popular because of record label promotion, hype and MTV support, not because of real talent or anything like that.
indie bands i dont get:
Mates of State
Sleater-Kinney
Guided By Voices
Wilco (wait, i get Wilco, they just arent good)
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Clap Your Hands Say Yeah.
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Animal Collective
Also, any of the psychfreakfolk bands
Wooden Wand
Cocorosie
Devendra
etc.
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I get them, but their singer bothers the hell out of me.
Originally posted by ixkpd-bk:
Clap Your Hands Say Yeah.
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Same here Econo. He's like a bipolar David Byrne.
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Bob Dylan
Don't get it one bit.
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Sufjan Stevens. So blandly twee, songwriting that compensates for lack of melody with bells and whistles...don't get it.
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I also don't get Silversun Pickups.
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Completely with you on Yo La Tengo.
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Originally posted by nkotb:
Maybe this is too easy of a target, but I really don't get why Maroon 5 is popular.
i could be wrong, but: "this love"
that song was huge...like on a "hey ya"/"crazy" level (regardless of dudes voice, i think it had a great hook). i haven't listened to the radio on a regular basis since like 1987, but that tune somehow got lodged in my head at it's peak (03, 04?).. i couldn't avoid it, it was everywhere.
they can now sell out arenas because millions of people are willing to pay $62.50 to stand in a beer garden for an hour and a half until they hear the opening notes of that song and rush over to their seat and get their woohoo on.
*flips over "Captain Save-a-Band" cape*
*flies away*
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Jimmy Buffett. But then, I don't get drunk.
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Radiohead
Bjork
Sufjan
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Don't get me wrong, there are plenty of indie-friendly bands that I scratch my head at. Arcade Fire are fine, I guess, but I have no clue why anyone is shitting their pants over them, and I think the Silversun Pickups are dreadfully boring. And while I think Radiohead are just OK too, I have no idea how everyone in the world loves them, especially when they haven't released a radio-friendly single (or listener-friendly album) in almost a decade.
But Maroon 5...man, I just don't get it. I don't see anything that would incite as much praise as they get, and from such a large & diverse demographic.
Originally posted by le sonick:
yeah, radio bands are too easy, because we all know they are only popular because of record label promotion, hype and MTV support, not because of real talent or anything like that.
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I don't get how someone doesn't get Bob Dylan.
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Washington Social Club
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Originally posted by K8teebug:
I don't get how someone doesn't get Bob Dylan.
I can. And I even LIKE some of his songs (the incredibly nasty, bitter ones: Idiot Wind, I Don't Believe You, Positively 4th Street, and Donā??t Think Twice.)
He's unintelligible. A lot of baby boomers think he's god. He's released as many bad albums as good ones. You can't dance to him. Sometimes rhyming nonsense is mistaken for genius ("A Hard Rain's Gonna Fall.") Every other baby boomer musician kisses his ass/covers him (I mean, he willingly participated in a "30th Anniversary Concert" for himself.) He's inspired a lot of bad singer/songwriters. He's overrated. The Traveling Wilburys. He's inscrutable (To some people, listening to "Sad-Eyed Lady of the Lowlands" must seem like reading "War & Peace.") He insists upon himself.
Need I go on?
Brian
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O.A.R.
Dave Matthews Band
Jimmy Buffett
And bands that I know I "should" get, but I just flat out don't:
The Stooges
The Velvet Underground
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Originally posted by callat703:
The Velvet Underground
:eek: :eek: :eek:
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Wilco
Maroon 5
Arcade Fire
Dave Matthews band
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the stereotypical sounds that many gay guys love: (aretha, weather girls, whitney, jody whatley, crystal waters, cher, madonna, ect...)
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Originally posted by le sonick:
Originally posted by callat703:
The Velvet Underground
:eek: :eek: :eek: [/b]
I can see that, too. A couple of good songs and the rest was attitude.
Brian
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Originally posted by walkonby:
the stereotypical sounds that many gay guys love: (aretha, weather girls, whitney, jody whatley, crystal waters, cher, madonna, ect...)
There's nothing gay about Aretha. At all. You're talking about one of, if not the, best voice ever to touch a mic.
This (http://www.mediafire.com/?2ndwmmizkto) is one of the funkiest songs ever to pass out of speakers/headphones. I'm almost positive you'll at least head nod. No disrespect, but you don't look like much of a dancer. :D
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Originally posted by TheDirector217:
Originally posted by walkonby:
the stereotypical sounds that many gay guys love: (aretha, weather girls, whitney, jody whatley, crystal waters, cher, madonna, ect...)
There's nothing gay about Aretha. At all. You're talking about one of, if not the, best voice ever to touch a mic.
This (http://www.mediafire.com/?2ndwmmizkto) is one of the funkiest songs ever to pass out of speakers/headphones. I'm almost positive you'll at least head nod. No disrespect, but you don't look like much of a dancer. :D [/b]
i knew it was rocksteady before i clicked. classic classic classic.
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Originally posted by TheDirector217:
Originally posted by walkonby:
the stereotypical sounds that many gay guys love: (aretha, weather girls, whitney, jody whatley, crystal waters, cher, madonna, ect...)
There's nothing gay about Aretha. At all. You're talking about one of, if not the, best voice ever to touch a mic.
This (http://www.mediafire.com/?2ndwmmizkto) is one of the funkiest songs ever to pass out of speakers/headphones. I'm almost positive you'll at least head nod. No disrespect, but you don't look like much of a dancer. :D [/b]
i wasn't implying that any of the bands i mentioned were gay. but aretha is ADORED, if not WORSHIPPED like a female jesus by the gay men community. that is what i do not understand. why do gay guys love black women so much?
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Arcade Fire
The Smiths (leave me alone)
Interpol
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No disrespect, but you don't look like much of a dancer. :D [/QB]
never judge.
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Originally posted by manimtired:
Arcade Fire
The Smiths (leave me alone)
Interpol
Yeah, I can only handle Smiths songs when they're covered by someone else. Morrissey gives me hives. Some good songs, though.
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my vote goes to MIA. seen her, heard her, don't get it.
Originally posted by Relaxer:
Daft Punk
you're fired.
seriously tho, on the way out of the daft punk show at lolla my girlfriend asked me what made the show so good, and why was i possibly hyped up even beyond that. their stage set-up is amazing, the music moves the people's asses en masse, and few people arrive prepared for the onslaught so the show takes them by surprise. admittedly, for me there was also a dose of nostalgia thrown in - i was a club kid when da funk and around the world came out, so it was impressive to see these old nuggets sound so good in a live show setting. with all that said: without having seen the live show, i fully understand why people don't get it. i've always liked daft punk. after having seen them, i'm addicted.
Originally posted by ixkpd-bk:
Clap Your Hands Say Yeah.
absolutely.
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1) Dave Matthews Band... Same old cookie cutter, generic, pop rock folk music that is grade B at best. It ain't BAD music, just its the average stuff you can see by any folk pop bar band anywhere in the US of A.
2) U2... Talent never visited these guys. Bone-Oh has an ego bigger than the spruce goose and they are all arrogant meglomaniacs. The fact that people give any creedence to his opinion on world matters floors me. Whats a no talent lead singer in a half ass pseudo rock band have to do with anything other than feeding his ego?
3) Boston... OK so we know the guitar player knows how to use a wah wah peddle. NEXT! The only reason it took them 10 years between CDs is that its the 2nd release is the EXACT same songs as the 1st only in a different order and different song names. Collectively the band might know 3 chords and that includes the drummer.
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that guy on the new rolling stone cover. manbla alert!
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Originally posted by walkonby:
but aretha is ADORED, if not WORSHIPPED like a female jesus by the gay men community. that is what i do not understand.
Really? I never noticed that. Madonna and Cher - yes. Aretha? hmmm...I don't think so.
why do gay guys love black women so much?
Attitude. Every gay man has a sassy black woman inside him, waiting to come out.
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Originally posted by le sonick:
Originally posted by callat703:
The Velvet Underground
:eek: :eek: :eek: [/b]
I know. Believe me, I tried. It just doesn't grab me though. Oh well. You can't like everything.
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Originally posted by Bombay Chutney:
Originally posted by walkonby:
but aretha is ADORED, if not WORSHIPPED like a female jesus by the gay men community. that is what i do not understand.
Really? I never noticed that. Madonna and Cher - yes. Aretha? hmmm...I don't think so.
why do gay guys love black women so much?
Attitude. Every gay man has a sassy black woman inside him, waiting to come out. [/b]
yes, aretha. please, girl; know your gay history! she's the queen over donna summer and chaka khan, and just because she's not as "in your face" as madonna and cher, doesn't mean the gays don't flock to her feet. when she sat in for pavarotti to perform "nessun dorma," every gay man melted into a sea of her being a saint.
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I have never ever been able to 'get' U2 and Pink Floyd.
(Sorry Director!)
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Bjork and Pink Floyd
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Originally posted by SalParadise:
Originally posted by TheDirector217:
Originally posted by walkonby:
the stereotypical sounds that many gay guys love: (aretha, weather girls, whitney, jody whatley, crystal waters, cher, madonna, ect...)
There's nothing gay about Aretha. At all. You're talking about one of, if not the, best voice ever to touch a mic.
This (http://www.mediafire.com/?2ndwmmizkto) is one of the funkiest songs ever to pass out of speakers/headphones. I'm almost positive you'll at least head nod. No disrespect, but you don't look like much of a dancer. :D [/b]
i knew it was rocksteady before i clicked. classic classic classic. [/b]
You are a great man. You just made it to the uber-exclusive "buy him/her a drank" list. :D
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Originally posted by walkonby:
yes, aretha. please, girl; know your gay history! she's the queen over donna summer and chaka khan, and just because she's not as "in your face" as madonna and cher, doesn't mean the gays don't flock to her feet. when she sat in for pavarotti to perform "nessun dorma," every gay man melted into a sea of her being a saint.
I stand corrected! :)
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Originally posted by TheDirector217:
Originally posted by SalParadise:
Originally posted by TheDirector217:
Originally posted by walkonby:
the stereotypical sounds that many gay guys love: (aretha, weather girls, whitney, jody whatley, crystal waters, cher, madonna, ect...)
There's nothing gay about Aretha. At all. You're talking about one of, if not the, best voice ever to touch a mic.
This (http://www.mediafire.com/?2ndwmmizkto) is one of the funkiest songs ever to pass out of speakers/headphones. I'm almost positive you'll at least head nod. No disrespect, but you don't look like much of a dancer. :D [/b]
i knew it was rocksteady before i clicked. classic classic classic. [/b]
You are a great man. You just made it to the uber-exclusive "buy him/her a drank" list. :D [/b]
if i'm hovering in the 100-105 bpm range for a while, "rocksteady" is usually on deck.
had i read your message beforehand.. i would've tried collecting on that drink at the daft punk show. sooner or later i'm sure..
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Arcade Fire
Clap You Hands Say Yeah
Of Monteal
Melt Bananna
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Muse. They're like punk never happened, and the reason it did.
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Originally posted by miss pretentious:
I have never ever been able to 'get' U2 and Pink Floyd.
(Sorry Director!)
It's okay, sweety. I still like you in spite of your gaping, inherent flaws. Cool as a fan. Yes, without a doubt. Perfect, no. :D
Originally posted by RatBastard:
2) U2... Talent never visited these guys. Bone-Oh has an ego bigger than the spruce goose and they are all arrogant meglomaniacs. The fact that people give any creedence to his opinion on world matters floors me. Whats a no talent lead singer in a half ass pseudo rock band have to do with anything other than feeding his ego?
WHOA! WHOA! Pump your brakes here, fam. I understand that the "bombast" of what it is that U2 does turns some off. Nothing wrong with that. Sweeping, anthemic rock isn't necessarily some people's cup of tea. I respect that as well. But for you to say that they're talentless is purely fucking asinine. Larry & Adam are at LEAST a solid rhythm section, and The Edge is easily one of the greatest players to pick up an axe. In the interest of being objective, I'll keep my opinion on where Bono sits in the pantheon of lead singers to myself. I cannot deny that Bono definitely has an ego. But last I checked so did Mick Jagger & Dylan. Greatness tends to buy you a pass on that. But the caveat there is NEITHER of those two are feeding hungry children in Africa. Regardless of what you think about his "no-talent shitty pseudo rock band", those 4 men, not just Bono, have tirelessly dedicated to their time & effort to MANY humanitarian causes. How can you hate on people trying to leave the world in better shape than they found it???? You can't do bumps & fuck groupies all the time, can you??? There's only so much Jack Daniels to go around . . . :roll:
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yo la tengo
neutral milk hotel
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"The Edge is easily one of the greatest players to pick up an axe"
umm...no.
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O.A.R.
I've never seen such a mediocre band get so much hype.
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Broken Social Scene
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Originally posted by manimtired:
"The Edge is easily one of the greatest players to pick up an axe"
umm...no.
Did you ever hear Rollins go off on U2? I think it's on "A Boxed Life." He talks about The Edge playing that one "Eno-esque chord." Funny. But not as funny as his Edie Brickell rant.
Brian
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Man, that just made me LOL. And I'm with GGW on BSS too. Why they're so revered I'll never know.
Originally posted by beetsnotbeats:
Muse. They're like punk never happened, and the reason it did.
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Fallout Boy - are they really that good? I think their music is eh at best
Gnarles Barkley - I like Ceeloo and Goodie Mob, and i like dangermouse, but put them together, and you get crap. their performance at Virgin Fest 06 was one of the worst performances i have ever sat through.
KMFDM - Seems too happy at times, and too angry at others. Very bipolar. I can see why people might like them, but they are not my cup of tea.
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Originally posted by manimtired:
"The Edge is easily one of the greatest players to pick up an axe"
umm...no.
Again for the sake of objectivity. If there's a top 50 guitarist list, then I'm fairly sure he's on it. Go see a clip of "Bullet The Blue Sky" live, then get back to me. I'm assuming you've never seen it in person.
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O.A.R.
Neutral Milk Hotel
Dave Mathews Band
Pavement
The Replacements
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Originally posted by TheDirector217:
Originally posted by manimtired:
"The Edge is easily one of the greatest players to pick up an axe"
umm...no.
Again for the sake of objectivity. If there's a top 50 guitarist list, then I'm fairly sure he's on it. Go see a clip of "Bullet The Blue Sky" live, then get back to me. I'm assuming you've never seen it in person. [/b]
i would never want to and sure as hell wouldnt pay whatever rediculous ticket price to do so.
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Originally posted by manimtired:
Originally posted by TheDirector217:
Originally posted by manimtired:
"The Edge is easily one of the greatest players to pick up an axe"
umm...no.
Again for the sake of objectivity. If there's a top 50 guitarist list, then I'm fairly sure he's on it. Go see a clip of "Bullet The Blue Sky" live, then get back to me. I'm assuming you've never seen it in person. [/b]
i would never want to and sure as hell wouldnt pay whatever rediculous ticket price to do so. [/b]
Exhibit A of your ignorance: U2 charges a fan-friendly $49.50 for GA floor seats, when a band of their stature could EASILY charge 4x that rate. This argument is about as pointless as getting head without a swallow, so we'll agree to disagree. Have a great day. :D
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You guys are so damn negative today.
I love all the music.
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Originally posted by TheDirector217:
Originally posted by manimtired:
Originally posted by TheDirector217:
Originally posted by manimtired:
"The Edge is easily one of the greatest players to pick up an axe"
umm...no.
Again for the sake of objectivity. If there's a top 50 guitarist list, then I'm fairly sure he's on it. Go see a clip of "Bullet The Blue Sky" live, then get back to me. I'm assuming you've never seen it in person. [/b]
i would never want to and sure as hell wouldnt pay whatever rediculous ticket price to do so. [/b]
Exhibit A of your ignorance: U2 charges a fan-friendly $49.50 for GA floor seats, when a band of their stature could EASILY charge 4x that rate. This argument is about as pointless as getting head without a swallow, so we'll agree to disagree. Have a great day. :D [/b]
you too! its a beautiful day!!
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bjork -- i've just never understood the fascination. i don't think the music is really that innovative/interesting. her singing annoys me and it seems like she's trying to hard to do her batshit crazy act (Though i have to admit the video of her beating up that reporter was hilarious).
arcade fire -- i found them nothing but boring. they (at least a couple of the members) were in the row in front of me @ radiohead in montreal (i think it was the second night? but maybe it was the first)
daft punk -- seriously, until the recent talk i had no idea that people still liked/cared about them or that they were even a big deal in the first place ... ? it's not that i think that they are by any means bad or anything, but i just fail to see what makes them anything less than generic electronic dance music?
sigur ros -- i heard so many stories (not necessarily from here -- though i know people on this forum like them) about how great they were (especially live). i heard album stuff and i thought it was boring. with talk of the shows being "life changing" (yes, words that excessive were used to describe their live shows), i decided to give them a shot. i actually bought tickets for both 930 shows in 03. i had to miss the first one because of being sick but decided that even though i was sick i shouldn't skip both dates. the whole show was probably the most excruciatingly boring concert experience of my entire life. there were moments that it seemed like some of the songs might be building up to something.... only to go nowhere. when will the novelty of the hopelandic gimmick wear off? probably not soon enough as they apparently haven't disbanded and have released more material since 03. they definitely weren't the WORST thing i've seen, but i'm pretty sure they were indeed the most boring. that whole evening is 9 hours of my life (including travel time) that i'll never get back. i don't even care about the money at this point.
oh and on top of the "don't get" category, these are also bands that i don't WANT to "get". i don't see a reason to waste time/effort at this point.
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Originally posted by manimtired:
Originally posted by TheDirector217:
Originally posted by manimtired:
Originally posted by TheDirector217:
Originally posted by manimtired:
"The Edge is easily one of the greatest players to pick up an axe"
umm...no.
Again for the sake of objectivity. If there's a top 50 guitarist list, then I'm fairly sure he's on it. Go see a clip of "Bullet The Blue Sky" live, then get back to me. I'm assuming you've never seen it in person. [/b]
i would never want to and sure as hell wouldnt pay whatever rediculous ticket price to do so. [/b]
Exhibit A of your ignorance: U2 charges a fan-friendly $49.50 for GA floor seats, when a band of their stature could EASILY charge 4x that rate. This argument is about as pointless as getting head without a swallow, so we'll agree to disagree. Have a great day. :D [/b]
you too! its a beautiful day!! [/b]
That was classic. Hahahahaha
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The Shins and New Pornographers.
Just never clicked with me.
Phish.
I'm skeptical of anyone who ever got really into them.
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Originally posted by TheDirector217:
U2 charges a fan-friendly $49.50 for GA floor seats, when a band of their stature could EASILY charge 4x that rate.
unfortunately my ticket stub collection is buried away in a box right now so i can't look it up, but i know for a fact that i paid more than than for their last show at verizon (november 2005?). i seem to remember a face price in the $75 range. it was a great show tho, totally worth it.
Originally posted by Charlie Nakatestes,Japanese Golfer:
You guys are so damn negative today.
I love all the music.
BEST REPLY EVAH.
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Um, plus $50 is a good bit of change for a show, IMO.
Originally posted by sweetcell:
Originally posted by TheDirector217:
U2 charges a fan-friendly $49.50 for GA floor seats, when a band of their stature could EASILY charge 4x that rate.
unfortunately my ticket stub collection is buried away in a box right now so i can't look it up, but i know for a fact that i paid more than than for their last show at verizon (november 2005?).[/b]
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Definitely Sigur Ros. The first time I heard them I thought someone had recorded the mating calls of a whale.
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Originally posted by sweetcell:
you're fired.
You can't fire me because you quit.
Quit DC that is.
-1 to you.
I don't think Thievery Corporation is all that either.
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Originally posted by sweetcell:
Originally posted by TheDirector217:
U2 charges a fan-friendly $49.50 for GA floor seats, when a band of their stature could EASILY charge 4x that rate.
unfortunately my ticket stub collection is buried away in a box right now so i can't look it up, but i know for a fact that i paid more than than for their last show at verizon (november 2005?). i seem to remember a face price in the $75 range. it was a great show tho, totally worth it.
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Trust me. It was $49.50 for floors plus service charges. I remember it like it was yesterday. Lower bowl seating went for $125 or $137.50. The rest (club & uppers) were cheaper than that. Uppers were $49.50 as well. BTW, the D.C. shows were Wednesday & Thursday. October 19th & 20th, 2005. I'll never forget those dates for the rest of my life.
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Originally posted by Brandon Brendall, the thief:
Definitely Sigur Ros. The first time I heard them I thought someone had recorded the mating calls of a whale.
The first time I heard Sigur Ros on some NME compilation I thought to myself "If I did heavy/Winehouse drugs, this would be my favorite band ever!"
Brian
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Originally posted by TheDirector217:
Originally posted by sweetcell:
Originally posted by TheDirector217:
U2 charges a fan-friendly $49.50 for GA floor seats, when a band of their stature could EASILY charge 4x that rate.
unfortunately my ticket stub collection is buried away in a box right now so i can't look it up, but i know for a fact that i paid more than than for their last show at verizon (november 2005?). i seem to remember a face price in the $75 range. it was a great show tho, totally worth it.
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Trust me. It was $49.50 for floors plus service charges. I remember it like it was yesterday. Lower bowl seating went for $125 or $137.50. The rest (club & uppers) were cheaper than that. Uppers were $49.50 as well. BTW, the D.C. shows were Wednesday & Thursday. October 19th & 20th, 2005. I'll never forget those dates for the rest of my life. [/b]
Untrue. I paid $60+ to sit behind the stage in the upper level at the United Center in Chicago for the Elevation Tour. I want to say it was $75.
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Originally posted by callat703:
Originally posted by TheDirector217:
Originally posted by sweetcell:
Originally posted by TheDirector217:
U2 charges a fan-friendly $49.50 for GA floor seats, when a band of their stature could EASILY charge 4x that rate.
unfortunately my ticket stub collection is buried away in a box right now so i can't look it up, but i know for a fact that i paid more than than for their last show at verizon (november 2005?). i seem to remember a face price in the $75 range. it was a great show tho, totally worth it.
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Trust me. It was $49.50 for floors plus service charges. I remember it like it was yesterday. Lower bowl seating went for $125 or $137.50. The rest (club & uppers) were cheaper than that. Uppers were $49.50 as well. BTW, the D.C. shows were Wednesday & Thursday. October 19th & 20th, 2005. I'll never forget those dates for the rest of my life. [/b]
Untrue. I paid $60+ to sit behind the stage in the upper level at the United Center in Chicago for the Elevation Tour. I want to say it was $75. [/b]
Talk about splitting the hairs of Bono's hairy ass...
Speaking of which, why aren't Ash as big or bigger than U2? They both come from Northern Ireland, one's great, one's awful. I guess it's a nature/nurture thing. Bono couldn't hold Tim Wheeler's jock.
Just listen to 30 seconds of "Envy."
Brian
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The "look at me I am so good" attitude of Bone-Oh is getting way old. Its to the point that someone needs to tell him to just plain shut the hell up and go away. As for the band as a whole, they are all your average run of the mill musicians. MANY are better than every one of them. They may not fall into the class of 'suck' but not one of them added anything new to the playing of their respective instruments (one of the requirements for 'greatest' in my book). Their songs are like all the other pop rock songs of the generation. All kinds of really cool social messages and not a whole lot musically to it. U2 (much like a majority of the bands of the 80s) is by far one of the most over hyper bands ever, period...
Originally posted by TheDirector217:
Originally posted by miss pretentious:
I have never ever been able to 'get' U2 and Pink Floyd.
(Sorry Director!)
It's okay, sweety. I still like you in spite of your gaping, inherent flaws. Cool as a fan. Yes, without a doubt. Perfect, no. :D
Originally posted by RatBastard:
2) U2... Talent never visited these guys. Bone-Oh has an ego bigger than the spruce goose and they are all arrogant meglomaniacs. The fact that people give any creedence to his opinion on world matters floors me. Whats a no talent lead singer in a half ass pseudo rock band have to do with anything other than feeding his ego?
WHOA! WHOA! Pump your brakes here, fam. I understand that the "bombast" of what it is that U2 does turns some off. Nothing wrong with that. Sweeping, anthemic rock isn't necessarily some people's cup of tea. I respect that as well. But for you to say that they're talentless is purely fucking asinine. Larry & Adam are at LEAST a solid rhythm section, and The Edge is easily one of the greatest players to pick up an axe. In the interest of being objective, I'll keep my opinion on where Bono sits in the pantheon of lead singers to myself. I cannot deny that Bono definitely has an ego. But last I checked so did Mick Jagger & Dylan. Greatness tends to buy you a pass on that. But the caveat there is NEITHER of those two are feeding hungry children in Africa. Regardless of what you think about his "no-talent shitty pseudo rock band", those 4 men, not just Bono, have tirelessly dedicated to their time & effort to MANY humanitarian causes. How can you hate on people trying to leave the world in better shape than they found it???? You can't do bumps & fuck groupies all the time, can you??? There's only so much Jack Daniels to go around . . . :roll: [/b]
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The Hold Steady
CYHSY
I like pavement alright but have no idea as to why people foam at the mouth over them.
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Originally posted by distance:
daft punk -- seriously, until the recent talk i had no idea that people still liked/cared about them or that they were even a big deal in the first place ... ? it's not that i think that they are by any means bad or anything, but i just fail to see what makes them anything less than generic electronic dance music?
out of curiosity, who do you consider to make exceptional electronic dance music?
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How many U2 albums have you ever sat down & actually listened to? Just out of sheer curiousity. And name me 5 of your favorite bands, just so I can a feel of what it is you consider "great." You don't have to like them at all, that it is your God-given right as a man. But a band that revered by critics, musicians, & fans alike can't be "run of the mill" musicians. FallOut Boy are run of the mill musicians. You've barely said ANYTHING about the music & simply ranted on & on about Bone-Oh being a self-righteous do gooder. It's well & good to have an opinion, but don't let it get in the way of fact. You don't become more or less the biggest (depending on who you talk to, the best) band in the world for the better part of 20 years by being "run of the mill" & a "pop rock 80s band". Furthermore, name me some bands from the past 25 years that "added something new" to their respective instruments. Just looking for a gauge here.
And name me 10 frontmen better than Bono while you're at it. (People like Bowie, Zappa, & Hendrix, etc. don't count cause they weren't techincally lead singers of band as opposed to singers WITH bands.) You said "MANY", so just name 10. I'll give you 2. Jagger & Plant. Now gimme 8 more.
Originally posted by RatBastard:
The "look at me I am so good" attitude of Bone-Oh is getting way old. Its to the point that someone needs to tell him to just plain shut the hell up and go away. As for the band as a whole, they are all your average run of the mill musicians. MANY are better than every one of them. They may not fall into the class of 'suck' but not one of them added anything new to the playing of their respective instruments (one of the requirements for 'greatest' in my book). Their songs are like all the other pop rock songs of the generation. All kinds of really cool social messages and not a whole lot musically to it. U2 (much like a majority of the bands of the 80s) is by far one of the most over hyper bands ever, period...
Originally posted by TheDirector217:
Originally posted by miss pretentious:
I have never ever been able to 'get' U2 and Pink Floyd.
(Sorry Director!)
It's okay, sweety. I still like you in spite of your gaping, inherent flaws. Cool as a fan. Yes, without a doubt. Perfect, no. :D
Originally posted by RatBastard:
2) U2... Talent never visited these guys. Bone-Oh has an ego bigger than the spruce goose and they are all arrogant meglomaniacs. The fact that people give any creedence to his opinion on world matters floors me. Whats a no talent lead singer in a half ass pseudo rock band have to do with anything other than feeding his ego?
WHOA! WHOA! Pump your brakes here, fam. I understand that the "bombast" of what it is that U2 does turns some off. Nothing wrong with that. Sweeping, anthemic rock isn't necessarily some people's cup of tea. I respect that as well. But for you to say that they're talentless is purely fucking asinine. Larry & Adam are at LEAST a solid rhythm section, and The Edge is easily one of the greatest players to pick up an axe. In the interest of being objective, I'll keep my opinion on where Bono sits in the pantheon of lead singers to myself. I cannot deny that Bono definitely has an ego. But last I checked so did Mick Jagger & Dylan. Greatness tends to buy you a pass on that. But the caveat there is NEITHER of those two are feeding hungry children in Africa. Regardless of what you think about his "no-talent shitty pseudo rock band", those 4 men, not just Bono, have tirelessly dedicated to their time & effort to MANY humanitarian causes. How can you hate on people trying to leave the world in better shape than they found it???? You can't do bumps & fuck groupies all the time, can you??? There's only so much Jack Daniels to go around . . . :roll: [/b]
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Radiohead
Foo Fighters
The Smiths
Oasis
Guided by Voices
Smashing Pumpkins
U2
Portishead
Travis
Coldplay
Sigur Ros
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folks need to let go of other people's inability to recognize the supposed brilliance of their favorite band... c'mon folks, everyone has faults :roll: there is no such thing as an objectively great band - none, don't ever try coming up with a witty reply.
i generally don't get jam bands, and i definitely don't get the grandfathers of the scene: the grateful dead. to me, they're passable bluegrass & rockabilly, but nothing all that special - and only barely psychedelic. the only possible appeal that i can rationalize is that they were an excuse to run away from mommy and daddy and go do a lot of drugs. on the right substances, anything is psychedelic. i supposed the "scene" becomes one with the music (just like all of the participant's senses...) but on it's own, the dead's discography has never impressed me at all. and yes, i've heard a decent portion of it through friends.
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Originally posted by Barcelona:
Radiohead
Foo Fighters
The Smiths
Oasis
Guided by Voices
Smashing Pumpkins
U2
Portishead
Travis
Coldplay
Sigur Ros
ever the iconoclast, eh? i bet you don't "get" puppy dogs, ice cream and apple pie, either. :)
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I stand by what I said. U2 is a group of your typical 80s musicians. Nothing about their music is outstanding by any means. Its OK but it is the same old generic music most bands of their era put out. Edge is a fair guitar player. He can out play a number of others, but It would be hard to list him in the top 50 of all time. Its laughable to even think he should be on such a list and a disgrace to those who really do. The rest of the band might as well be hired hands. There is ZERO special, fancy, hard, creative, etc about any of the work they do. Any bassist or drummer with average skills could play just as well. U2 is just way way over hyped.
As far as my favorite bands go, that does not necessarily mean I think that any one or all of them are the 'greatest' on their instruments. I listen to all kinds of music from folk (Arlo Guthrie) to Jazz (Chick Corea) to Motown (Funk Brothers) to rock (Aerosmith) to blue grass (Old Crow medicine Show) to metal (Sevendust) to punk (Sex Pistols) as well as others (Zappa, Via, Elvis Costellon, Eels, Joe Jackson, etc). My taste vary. I like the some of the music they all have released but Id be hard pressed to list more than a few on a list of 'greatest'.
Originally posted by TheDirector217:
How many U2 albums have you ever sat down & actually listened to? Just out of sheer curiousity. And name me 5 of your favorite bands, just so I can a feel of what it is you consider "great." You don't have to like them at all, that it is your God-given right as a man. But a band that revered by critics, musicians, & fans alike can't be "run of the mill" musicians. FallOut Boy are run of the mill musicians. You've barely said ANYTHING about the music & simply ranted on & on about Bone-Oh being a self-righteous do gooder. It's well & good to have an opinion, but don't let it get in the way of fact. You don't become more or less the biggest (depending on who you talk to, the best) band in the world for the better part of 20 years by being "run of the mill" & a "pop rock 80s band". Furthermore, name me some bands from the past 25 years that "added something new" to their respective instruments. Just looking for a gauge here.
And name me 10 frontmen better than Bono while you're at it. (People like Bowie, Zappa, & Hendrix, etc. don't count cause they weren't techincally lead singers of band as opposed to singers WITH bands.) You said "MANY", so just name 10. I'll give you 2. Jagger & Plant. Now gimme 8 more.
Originally posted by RatBastard:
The "look at me I am so good" attitude of Bone-Oh is getting way old. Its to the point that someone needs to tell him to just plain shut the hell up and go away. As for the band as a whole, they are all your average run of the mill musicians. MANY are better than every one of them. They may not fall into the class of 'suck' but not one of them added anything new to the playing of their respective instruments (one of the requirements for 'greatest' in my book). Their songs are like all the other pop rock songs of the generation. All kinds of really cool social messages and not a whole lot musically to it. U2 (much like a majority of the bands of the 80s) is by far one of the most over hyper bands ever, period...
Originally posted by TheDirector217:
Originally posted by miss pretentious:
I have never ever been able to 'get' U2 and Pink Floyd.
(Sorry Director!)
It's okay, sweety. I still like you in spite of your gaping, inherent flaws. Cool as a fan. Yes, without a doubt. Perfect, no. :D
Originally posted by RatBastard:
2) U2... Talent never visited these guys. Bone-Oh has an ego bigger than the spruce goose and they are all arrogant meglomaniacs. The fact that people give any creedence to his opinion on world matters floors me. Whats a no talent lead singer in a half ass pseudo rock band have to do with anything other than feeding his ego?
WHOA! WHOA! Pump your brakes here, fam. I understand that the "bombast" of what it is that U2 does turns some off. Nothing wrong with that. Sweeping, anthemic rock isn't necessarily some people's cup of tea. I respect that as well. But for you to say that they're talentless is purely fucking asinine. Larry & Adam are at LEAST a solid rhythm section, and The Edge is easily one of the greatest players to pick up an axe. In the interest of being objective, I'll keep my opinion on where Bono sits in the pantheon of lead singers to myself. I cannot deny that Bono definitely has an ego. But last I checked so did Mick Jagger & Dylan. Greatness tends to buy you a pass on that. But the caveat there is NEITHER of those two are feeding hungry children in Africa. Regardless of what you think about his "no-talent shitty pseudo rock band", those 4 men, not just Bono, have tirelessly dedicated to their time & effort to MANY humanitarian causes. How can you hate on people trying to leave the world in better shape than they found it???? You can't do bumps & fuck groupies all the time, can you??? There's only so much Jack Daniels to go around . . . :roll: [/b]
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I never was into the dead either. Just never saw the thrill. However I think it was a good thing for everyone during the era to attend ONE dead show. It was quite the experience.
Originally posted by sweetcell:
folks need to let go of other people's inability to recognize the supposed brilliance of their favorite band... c'mon folks, everyone has faults :roll: there is no such thing as an objectively great band - none, don't ever try coming up with a witty reply.
i generally don't get jam bands, and i definitely don't get the grandfathers of the scene: the grateful dead. to me, they're passable bluegrass & rockabilly, but nothing all that special - and only barely psychedelic. the only possible appeal that i can rationalize is that they were an excuse to run away from mommy and daddy and go do a lot of drugs. on the right substances, anything is psychedelic. i supposed the "scene" becomes one with the music (just like all of the participant's senses...) but on it's own, the dead's discography has never impressed me at all. and yes, i've heard a decent portion of it through friends.
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I never saw much in the dead even while I was on a jamband kick.
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Originally posted by SalParadise:
Originally posted by distance:
daft punk -- seriously, until the recent talk i had no idea that people still liked/cared about them or that they were even a big deal in the first place ... ? it's not that i think that they are by any means bad or anything, but i just fail to see what makes them anything less than generic electronic dance music?
out of curiosity, who do you consider to make exceptional electronic dance music? [/b]
now that you asked that, i had to think and i don't think i have an answer for that question. i think the electronic music that i like / have liked isn't exactly so... dance-y. i don't think i like electronic dance music i suppose. and i guess i was just surprised by the fact that there was so much attention given to them lately and i wasn't sure what that was necessarily based on.
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I also find the popularity of The New Pornographers amazing.
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Originally posted by azaghal1981:
I never saw much in the dead even while I was on a jamband kick.
american beauty was a great album and the songs, not "jammed out", are great IMO. i was 16 when they played RFK for the last time and two friends and i went to just walk around the parking lot...fuuuun times. luckily marty666 wasnt there taking pics...
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RadioHead. I love all their radio friendly songs. But their other stuff, i just don't understand. I understand that other people swear they are the greatest band of the 90's, and every music critic puts OK Computer as the best album of the decade. So i have no problem admitting that I just might be dumber then everybody els. But they just don't do it for me, and i've listened to all their albums a few times.
Other bands would be:
BON JOVI
Aerosmith (who i like, but come on, just the fact that you are from America isn't enough)
The Clash
Dead Kennedy's
U2
DMB
All EMO and Godfathers of EMO (except Fugazi)
Television
REM
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OK Computer is nowhere near as good as Kid A or Amnesiac in my opinion.
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Their live shows are magnificent!
Originally posted by nkotb:
Man, that just made me LOL. And I'm with GGW on BSS too. Why they're so revered I'll never know.
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And everyone knows that Loveless is the best album of the 90s. :)
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Portishead
Tori Amos
Most Techno (especially when it involves people with glow sticks in their mouths). What a fucking show
The Police (do not care about the reunion)
The Clash (if I hear one more person imply that U2 somehow ripped them off, I may go postal)
Sublime
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Talking Heads
Pavement
LCD Soundsystem
The New Pornographers
The Arcade Fire
Sigur Ros
Clap Your Hands Say Yeah
Tom Waits
Neutral Milk Hotel
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Originally posted by distance:
and i guess i was just surprised by the fact that there was so much attention given to them lately and i wasn't sure what that was necessarily based on.
as i mentioned previously, it's based on daft punk's live show, after not having toured for many years. buzz started last year after their coachella set, and that decent-quality video that got out into the wild (gorilla marketing done right?). then gained momentum this year with their summer tour of north america, even though they only played six or seven shows. probably peaked after lolla, where their set was by and large billed as the highlight of the festival. so maybe you're in luck - the peak has been reached, maybe the buzz will subside from here on out...
from a marketing perspective, their accomplishments as of late have been damn impressive... almost as much as their musical ones.
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Originally posted by Relaxer:
Daft Punk
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i was just thinking about this topic the other day, long before i saw this thread...
i have never understood the fascination with nine inch nails, especially the new stuff that i've heard.
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METALLICA
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Van Halen
Aerosmith
Bon Jovi
Kiss
Buffet
Radiohead
Bob Marley
Elvis Costello
Beastie Boys
Ramones
Nirvana
Rap/Hip Hop in general
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Really?! You can't even get into the song Stockholm Syndrome? I Can Hear The Heart Beating as One is such a classic...
Originally posted by Relaxer:
Yo La Tengo (I don't dislike them, but I've tried again and again to get into Heart Beats as One ..)
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Deerhoof.
Maybe I'm just too simple.
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Originally posted by manimtired:
Originally posted by azaghal1981:
I never saw much in the dead even while I was on a jamband kick.
american beauty was a great album and the songs, not "jammed out", are great IMO. i was 16 when they played RFK for the last time and two friends and i went to just walk around the parking lot...fuuuun times. luckily marty666 wasnt there taking pics... [/b]
actually, I was at that show too. you are just lucky i didnt have a digital camera back then with a memory card that lets me take 4,000 pictures without reloading.
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Whoa....The Traveling Wilburys (Dylan, Petty, George Harrison, Roy Orbison, Jeff Lynne)are overrated? I would re-think that opinion. Some of his best work in the 80's was recording with that group. And Dylan was in the bag for most of the 80's!
Dylan is always interpreting his songs differently, both lyrically and musically. He always keeps you guessing.
And by the way, "A Hard Rain's Gonna Fall" is an amazing song inspired by the Cuban Missile Crisis and pre-dates many important events leading up to the Civil Rights movement. One of my favorite lines "I met a white man who walked a black dog." He definitely had the foresight.
Okay, off the soapbox now.
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Originally posted by K8teebug:
I don't get how someone doesn't get Bob Dylan.
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I can. And I even LIKE some of his songs (the incredibly nasty, bitter ones: Idiot Wind, I Don't Believe You, Positively 4th Street, and Donā??t Think Twice.)
He's unintelligible. A lot of baby boomers think he's god. He's released as many bad albums as good ones. You can't dance to him. Sometimes rhyming nonsense is mistaken for genius ("A Hard Rain's Gonna Fall.") Every other baby boomer musician kisses his ass/covers him (I mean, he willingly participated in a "30th Anniversary Concert" for himself.) He's inspired a lot of bad singer/songwriters. He's overrated. The Traveling Wilburys. He's inscrutable (To some people, listening to "Sad-Eyed Lady of the Lowlands" must seem like reading "War & Peace.") He insists upon himself.
Need I go on?
Brian
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Originally posted by rcrown:
And by the way, "A Hard Rain's Gonna Fall" is an amazing song inspired by the Cuban Missile Crisis and pre-dates many important events leading up to the Civil Rights movement. One of my favorite lines "I met a white man who walked a black dog." He definitely had the foresight.
"A Hard Rain's a-Gonna Fall" was published in 1962; the modern Civil Rights Movement generally began in 1954.
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Originally posted by beetsnotbeats:
Originally posted by rcrown:
And by the way, "A Hard Rain's Gonna Fall" is an amazing song inspired by the Cuban Missile Crisis and pre-dates many important events leading up to the Civil Rights movement. One of my favorite lines "I met a white man who walked a black dog." He definitely had the foresight.
"A Hard Rain's a-Gonna Fall" was published in 1962; the modern Civil Rights Movement generally began in 1954. [/b]
Yes but, believe me, things did not change over night.
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Originally posted by Jaguar:
Originally posted by beetsnotbeats:
Originally posted by rcrown:
[qb] "A Hard Rain's a-Gonna Fall" was published in 1962; the modern Civil Rights Movement generally began in 1954. [/b]
Yes but, believe me, things did not change over night. [/b]
Not in the least. Many, including me, would argue that it continues to this day. Brian asserted that the song predated and even presaged the movement, which it clearly did not.
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Originally posted by beetsnotbeats:
Originally posted by Jaguar:
Originally posted by beetsnotbeats:
Originally posted by rcrown:
[qb] "A Hard Rain's a-Gonna Fall" was published in 1962; the modern Civil Rights Movement generally began in 1954. [/b]
Yes but, believe me, things did not change over night. [/b]
Not in the least. Many, including me, would argue that it continues to this day. Brian asserted that the song predated and even presaged the movement, which it clearly did not. [/b]
the movement is/was not like a light switch that was simply turned on, and maintained its size and strength with any kind of consistency.
there were events and people who shaped it and helped it grow and take root and spread and achieve things.
its a very fluid and evolving creation.
Popular music played a part in getting people involved and creating awareness and also helped to build cohesiveness.
The music and lyrics of Bob Dylan did have an effect and did play a part in the movement. for some people it was their point of entry. others, it was the extent of their involvement. in anycase, the civil rights movement could only be as sucessful to the degree that the majority of americans were willing to accept.
bob dylan got kids challenging their parents at the dinner table and its those conversations that nudged america towards doing the right thing.
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I like when fans of bands mentioned in threads like these get offended when their favorite bands are listed. Settle down people!
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Why do you like that? I sort of do too. It's pretty funny!
Originally posted by azaghal1981:
I like when fans of bands mentioned in threads like these get offended when their favorite bands are listed. Settle down people!
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It's hilarious. Shows an insecurity of sorts in some people.
"They don't like my band...Is there something wrong with me or my taste?"
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It's more disbelief that people don't have taste :D
Originally posted by azaghal1981:
I like when fans of bands mentioned in threads like these get offended when their favorite bands are listed. Settle down people!
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Originally posted by Brian Wallace:
A lot of baby boomers think he's god.
Not so sure about that. Most that I've met have told me they can't stand him or they became sick of him. I think it's other generations that have attempted to glorify him.
My selections:
Dave Matthews Band
Travis
Interpol
American Idol as a whole
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Interpol is one I should've included.
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Originally posted by Brian Wallace:
Originally posted by K8teebug:
I don't get how someone doesn't get Bob Dylan.
I can. And I even LIKE some of his songs (the incredibly nasty, bitter ones: Idiot Wind, I Don't Believe You, Positively 4th Street, and Donā??t Think Twice.)
He's unintelligible. A lot of baby boomers think he's god. He's released as many bad albums as good ones. You can't dance to him. Sometimes rhyming nonsense is mistaken for genius ("A Hard Rain's Gonna Fall.") Every other baby boomer musician kisses his ass/covers him (I mean, he willingly participated in a "30th Anniversary Concert" for himself.) He's inspired a lot of bad singer/songwriters. He's overrated. The Traveling Wilburys. He's inscrutable (To some people, listening to "Sad-Eyed Lady of the Lowlands" must seem like reading "War & Peace.") He insists upon himself.
Need I go on?
Brian [/b]
Source??
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I don't get any of them.
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pearl jam
u2
dcfc
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Add to mine THE MARS VOLTA
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Originally posted by Julian, good manners AFICIONADO:
Add to mine THE MARS VOLTA
Mars Volt is one of those groups that is MUCH better live than their CDs.
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Originally posted by RatBastard:
Originally posted by Julian, good manners AFICIONADO:
Add to mine THE MARS VOLTA
Mars Volt is one of those groups that is MUCH better live than their CDs. [/b]
I would enjoy their live show if it was one of those select preformances when they got pelted with bags of urine.
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Originally posted by azaghal1981:
Interpol is one I should've included.
Me too - did anyone ever find my copy of their cd on the Dulles Toll Road.
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time to bann the quoting function on this board.
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After wasting the last 20 minutes of my time.. we do realize don't we that the average of all opinions on this thread lead you back to the exact same opinion you had before you read all these posts. To each their own... I guess it really is true.
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Originally proposed by DriveWay:
Originally proposed by DriveWay:
time to bann the quoting function on this board.
Originally proposed by DriveWay:
time to bann the quoting function on this board.
time to bann the quoting function on this board. [/b]
Why?
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Originally posted by DriveWay:
time to bann the quoting function on this board.
And implement a spelling function? ;)