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=> GENERAL DISCUSSION => Topic started by: reggie on August 17, 2007, 07:45:00 pm
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this really sucks.
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What?!?!?
NOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!!!!
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source?
the tix are still up on tickets.com.
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I am really fucking pissed off at this (if this is true).
Why would they turn down two nights that they KNOW would sell out, with two full hour and a half sets they can play, and really cater to an audience that is all their own, to go and play a 40-minute set opening for some Shins.
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FUCK. THIS.
(Unless this means...they're opening for The Shins, then driving to DC and playing an 11:00 late set on both days...which I doubt.)
!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Those of us obsessive fans who bought tickets early received the following email this evening:
"Spoon has agreed to play on The Shins bill at Merriweather Post Pavilion on October 22, so the 9:30 Club shows have been cancelled.
Because you showed your allegiance by buying your tickets so early, they want to treat you right - you have some choices here:
1 - trade in your ticket for a GA Pit or Reserved pavilion ticket (a
$45 value), for only ten more dollars. You can do it in advance thru the 9:30 Club or Merriweather box office.
2 - present your ticket to Merriweather on October 22 for a lawn seat (a $30) value) - no exchange or extra effort necessary.
3 - Ask for a refund.
Think about what you'd like to do, and well get back to you Monday with more details about how to proceed. Just know that we've got seats and pit spots held for you!"
Poorly played, Britt, poorly played.
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wow
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wow. that's fairly shittastic.
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This is really a shame... Thought they were pretty good at virgin and they still left out at least five of their best songs in an abbreviated set where Britt did not even play guitar for some songs...geez, one of these would have easily been one of the best shows of the year (my opinion of course)... Screw fearing the underdog!!
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Super lame.
What's with this recent trend? Liars recently cancelled a black cat show so that they could open for interpol and now this. Guess I'll see both Carlos Giffoni and Damo Suzuki now.
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I quit HFStival.com where I was the most important poster to be a relative "opening act" here, so really, they're all just following my example.
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Originally posted by Julian, good manners AFICIONADO:
I quit HFStival.com where I was the most important poster to be a relative "opening act" here, so really, they're all just following my example.
It's always about you isn't it?
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Originally posted by miss pretentious:
Originally posted by Julian, good manners AFICIONADO:
I quit HFStival.com where I was the most important poster to be a relative "opening act" here, so really, they're all just following my example.
It's always about you isn't it? [/b]
Of course! ;)
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i'd be curious to find out how many people upgrade their spoon tickets to see this gig at merriweather.
pros:
i get to see spoon
cons:
driving to merriweather.
driving to merriweather on a monday.
seeing spoon play for (probably) an hour - they just have too many good songs, that's not enough time.
seeing the shins and their boring ass stage presence try to captivate a big crowd.
i'll pass. maybe spoon will play a proper headlining gig in dc after they finish the fall tour.
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I'm not too fond of the Spoon live show nowadays and not a fan of the Shins live either.
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Fucking ridiculous.
(At least there's a GA pit.) BUT still...
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It really costs $45 to see the shins now? That is funny in and of itself.
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What are the Ponys doing?
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wow - as a ticket holder i am glad for the refund.
But on a separate note -thanks Spoon - really, that's great - I don't even have a car - FUCK YOU - ASSHOLES
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Shittastic. I already made the mistake of paying to see the Shins once this year. Won't make the mistake of doing so twice, Spoon or no Spoon.
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also - the sneakiness of sending out this email late on a Friday should not be overlooked. What a let down on so many levels
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Did they cancel both nights, or are they still playing on the 23rd at the 9:30?
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Originally posted by Fadger:
But on a separate note -thanks Spoon - really, that's great - I don't even have a car - FUCK YOU - ASSHOLES
Perhaps if you can't afford a car, you should be saving your money instead of buying concert tickets. /rhett
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Originally posted by Julian, good manners AFICIONADO:
Originally posted by Fadger:
But on a separate note -thanks Spoon - really, that's great - I don't even have a car - FUCK YOU - ASSHOLES
Perhaps if you can't afford a car, you should be saving your money instead of buying concert tickets. /rhett [/b]
so how much does that suck that you live in such an environment that when someone says "i don't have a car" you immediately think that they can't afford a car?
i pity thee
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Originally posted by Hoya Paranoia:
so how much does that suck that you live in such an environment that when someone says "i don't have a car" you immediately think that they can't afford a car?
i pity thee
This is America. Whenever anyone says they don't have anything, I assume the only reason is they couldn't afford it. Hell, 90% of the time when they can't afford it, they still get it somehow. This guy must be REALLY hard up. /rhett
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Originally posted by Julian, good manners AFICIONADO:
Originally posted by Fadger:
But on a separate note -thanks Spoon - really, that's great - I don't even have a car - FUCK YOU - ASSHOLES
Perhaps if you can't afford a car, you should be saving your money instead of buying concert tickets. /rhett [/b]
There are many reasons why I don't have a car but I can assure you that money is not one of them.
Thanks for the words of wisdom though - you are clearly a visionary thinker.
:roll:
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Originally posted by Julian, good manners AFICIONADO:
Originally posted by Hoya Paranoia:
so how much does that suck that you live in such an environment that when someone says "i don't have a car" you immediately think that they can't afford a car?
i pity thee
This is America. Whenever anyone says they don't have anything, I assume the only reason is they couldn't afford it. Hell, 90% of the time when they can't afford it, they still get it somehow. This guy must be REALLY hard up. /rhett [/b]
I don't have a venereal disease, but believe me, I can more than afford one.
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Originally posted by ayates:
Originally posted by Julian, good manners AFICIONADO:
This is America. Whenever anyone says they don't have anything, I assume the only reason is they couldn't afford it. Hell, 90% of the time when they can't afford it, they still get it somehow. This guy must be REALLY hard up. /rhett
I don't have a venereal disease, but believe me, I can more than afford one. [/b]
^^^^^Post of the week.
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refund coming right up. fuck this shit. $45 for a shins show is just plain funny.
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well
thing is...spoon was booked at club...then shins got booked at merriweather...so it seemed stupid to have both shows same night
so I figured we'd combine them and offer the people that already bought spoon tickets the chance to simply go to merriweather for no extra money, or upgrade to a pavilion seat for a discount, or get their money back
not sure how we screwed anyone except for the disappointment of Spoon not playing the club
but you can all blame me not them
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I guess people are disappointed because they wanted to see Spoon in a smaller setting and do a longer set.
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Originally posted by Seth Hurwitz:
well
thing is...spoon was booked at club...then shins got booked at merriweather...so it seemed stupid to have both shows same night
so I figured we'd combine them and offer the people that already bought spoon tickets the chance to simply go to merriweather for no extra money, or upgrade to a pavilion seat for a discount, or get their money back
not sure how we screwed anyone except for the disappointment of Spoon not playing the club
but you can all blame me not them
I really appreciate the explanation. However, I remain very disappointed indeed. I was really looking forward to seeing them at the club, playing a full set.
Seeing them just do a support slot for a band that I don't like at a less desirable venue that is impossible for me to get to is not a good alternative.
Anyways, I'll get over it but when I got the email i was absolutely raging and i definitely won't be going to Merriweather.
It is my belief that they shouldn't cancel unless for reasons of illness or bereavement, i don't think that is fair to fans.
Just my $.02 . .
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I'm thrilled!. Bought my Shins tix and now extra bonus of seeing Spoon. Thanks Seth!
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Originally posted by wanderlust featuring j. marshmallow:
I guess people are disappointed because they wanted to see Spoon in a smaller setting and do a longer set.
yep
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Originally posted by reggie:
i'd be curious to find out how many people upgrade their spoon tickets to see this gig at merriweather.
pros:
i get to see spoon
cons:
driving to merriweather.
driving to merriweather on a monday.
seeing spoon play for (probably) an hour - they just have too many good songs, that's not enough time.
seeing the shins and their boring ass stage presence try to captivate a big crowd.
i'll pass. maybe spoon will play a proper headlining gig in dc after they finish the fall tour.
lets not forget that it will be Merriweather, outside, a week before Halloween, so you may just freeze your ass off in the process!
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Originally posted by Seth Hurwitz:
well
thing is...spoon was booked at club...then shins got booked at merriweather...so it seemed stupid to have both shows same night
so I figured we'd combine them and offer the people that already bought spoon tickets the chance to simply go to merriweather for no extra money, or upgrade to a pavilion seat for a discount, or get their money back
not sure how we screwed anyone except for the disappointment of Spoon not playing the club
but you can all blame me not them
It screws the people who cannot get to Merriweather or those who have to leave their house before 7 to make it to work on time. It screws the Spoon fans who actually want to see the band play a full set to a packed house instead of a short one to a mostly disinterested audience.
I was incredibly excited to see Spoon (it was going to be my first time) but now that it is at Merriweather on a weeknight, it is totally impossible (or rather incredibly impractical) for me to go.
I'm sure it makes sense financially and I appreciate you being a stand up guy, but I believe there are more people pissed about this than are happy.
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Yeah, I'm dissapointed too. I'm headed to the Birchmere on Shins night, but I was probably gonna see Spoon on their other 9:30 date.
At least this means that they'll probably be back soon....?
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Thoroughly disappointed. I was really looking forward to them playing here, and selling out the club. Instead they'll be playing to a bunch of disinterested fans, as someone already said, and more probably only 40-or so minutes.
I know there are a lot of Spoon fans who are loathing this.
(BUT, is Spoon still playing the 10/23 date?)
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they are playing a full set, there's a band on before them so you don't have to get there too early, and most people I know that like one band llike the other
there will be the people who used to like the Shins but now they're "too big" and not their proud little secret discovery anymore but, as everyone knows from my previous posts, I have no time for people like that
I am sorry that people are disappointed...I would be too if I were looking forward to seeing them at 930...but there's a big difference between that and being "screwed"
hopefully it will be a great show that people will enjoy as a chance to see 2 great bands for less than if they had paid to see both
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Originally posted by Seth Hurwitz:
they are playing a full set, there's a band on before them so you don't have to get there too early, and most people I know that like one band llike the other
there will be the people who used to like the Shins but now they're "too big" and not their proud little secret discovery anymore but, as everyone knows from my previous posts, I have no time for people like that
I am sorry that people are disappointed...I would be too if I were looking forward to seeing them at 930...but there's a big difference between that and being "screwed"
hopefully it will be a great show that people will enjoy as a chance to see 2 great bands for less than if they had paid to see both
Is there any reason that they can't play the date on the 23rd?
That seems to me like it would be a neat solution that would accommodate all fans preferences . .
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What kind of solution is that? It would take away from ticket sales to the Merriweather show.
Originally posted by Fadger:
Is there any reason that they can't play the date on the 23rd?
That seems to me like it would be a neat solution that would accommodate all fans preferences . . [/QB]
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Originally posted by Seth Hurwitz:
there will be the people who used to like the Shins but now they're "too big" and not their proud little secret discovery anymore but, as everyone knows from my previous posts, I have no time for people like that
i dont think this is it. the shins still make good records. but whats the point of seeing them at merriweather when you've seen them at a smaller venue? it just wont be as good. it's not like they are a massive live force like my morning jacket.
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Originally posted by Charlie Nakatestes,Japanese Golfer:
What kind of solution is that? It would take away from ticket sales to the Merriweather show.
Originally posted by Fadger:
Is there any reason that they can't play the date on the 23rd?
That seems to me like it would be a neat solution that would accommodate all fans preferences . . [/b]
[/QB]
It would accommodate fans preferences, who I'm sure don't really care about ticket sales for Merriweather. Ticket sales for a Shins show in MD was a long way from my mind when I bought my tickets to see Spoon at the 930.
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Originally posted by reggie:
...a massive live force like my morning jacket...
ROFL
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Julian, good manners you are soooo edgy and controversial :roll:
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Originally posted by reggie:
Julian, good manners you are soooo edgy and controversial :roll:
At least I was laughing and rolling politely and in a gentleman-ly manner.
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Spoon's website lists M-P on the 22nd and no date at all on the 23rd, so I guess they are not playing the club then.
Seth, your intentions were good but for me it is a question of transportation. Merriwether is just not worth the driving for this VA resident on a weeknight.
I too was crushingly disappointed by the change in venues. I don't do big venues anymore--yes, that is my problem, but it's why I didn't see Spoon at the Virgin Fest, and I was so excited to see them at the club.
But when you hooked up the forum faithful with Pixies tix a few years ago, I swore my undying loyalty to the 9:30 club and you, and I'll stand by that!
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So wait...10/23 is officially off?
What the hell?
I bought tickets for two nights of Spoon at the 9:30.
If my only option is now one non-headlining night at MPP, I will indeed feel "screwed."
I really hope I'm wrong, however, and that 10/23 at the Club is still on.
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Originally posted by JohnnyBaconbitz:
So wait...10/23 is officially off?
What the hell?
I bought tickets for two nights of Spoon at the 9:30.
If my only option is now one non-headlining night at MPP, I will indeed feel "screwed."
I really hope I'm wrong, however, and that 10/23 at the Club is still on.
10/23 is off.
Your options are one non-headlining night (albeit full-set) at Merriwether, or getting your money back. (Or in your case since you have tickets for both nights, some combo of the two.)
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Do we get refunds on service charges as well?
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Originally posted by DriveWay:
Do we get refunds on service charges as well?
I don't know the "official" answer, but if you get the ticketing fees back, it'd be the first time I've ever seen it happen. All the ticket vendors have a "if the show is cancelled, we retain our fees because we provided our service" provision stated in their user agreement.
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Originally posted by Nietzsche:
Seth, your intentions were good but for me it is a question of transportation. Merriwether is just not worth the driving for this VA resident on a weeknight.
On the other side of the coin, being just north of Baltimore, I would welcome only having to take half of that drive. That is, if I were going. Neither band do much for me so I had no plans on attending either show. Personally, I've had my fill of having to drive down to DC for almost everything so MP would be a welcome change. My only concern would be a chilly October evening outside vs a nice cozy inside show.
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The Shins were great at DAR, I see no reason why they would be bad at Merriweather.
Merriweather is beautiful at night in the fall. You're allowed to wear a jacket and bring a blanket, you know.
I think the promise of a full set by Spoon and the ticket swap deal are both more than enough to make up for things. Yes, some people are understandably disappointed, but you can't please everyone all the time, and this pleases more people. I don't think the vocal minority on this board are representative of the GP.
That said, I'm still probably going to the Norva to see the Shins since we're probably getting hooked up with VIP passes.
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I don't think think anyone was displeased BEFORE the change was made, so why rock the boat?
Originally posted by Brandon Brendall, the thief:
Yes, some people are understandably disappointed, but you can't please everyone all the time, and this pleases more people.
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You should get all your service charges back
let me know here if you don't
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but what about the Ponys?
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Originally posted by Seth Hurwitz:
You should get all your service charges back
let me know here if you don't
Awesome. No one should have any room to complain if this is indeed the case, that service charges are also refunded.
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Originally posted by Charlie Nakatestes,Japanese Golfer:
I don't think think anyone was displeased BEFORE the change was made, so why rock the boat?
Originally posted by Brandon Brendall, the thief:
Yes, some people are understandably disappointed, but you can't please everyone all the time, and this pleases more people.
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you dont think anyone was upset that they had to choose between Spoon and the Shins?
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Originally posted by le sonick:
Originally posted by Charlie Nakatestes,Japanese Golfer:
I don't think think anyone was displeased BEFORE the change was made, so why rock the boat?
Originally posted by Brandon Brendall, the thief:
Yes, some people are understandably disappointed, but you can't please everyone all the time, and this pleases more people.
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you dont think anyone was upset that they had to choose between Spoon and the Shins? [/b]
well, previously it wasn't a choice because there were two spoon shows to choose from.
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Originally posted by le sonick:
Originally posted by Charlie Nakatestes,Japanese Golfer:
I don't think think anyone was displeased BEFORE the change was made, so why rock the boat?
Originally posted by Brandon Brendall, the thief:
Yes, some people are understandably disappointed, but you can't please everyone all the time, and this pleases more people.
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you dont think anyone was upset that they had to choose between Spoon and the Shins? [/b]
What does a Shins show on 10/22 have to do with a Spoon show on 10/23? Not exactly an "either/or" there...
Scrapping the 10/23 show is lame beyond belief. Will the band be too tired after playing happy hour in Columbia for a club date the next night?
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Originally posted by JohnnyBaconbitz:
Scrapping the 10/23 show is lame beyond belief. Will the band be too tired after playing happy hour in Columbia for a club date the next night?
as mentioned before and before that and i'm sure about 5 other times... it has to do with ticket sales. not spoon being "too tired for a club date the next night."
obviously, if they play both shows, which are you going to go to? the cheaper, smaller club show... knocking out some ticket sales for the bigger, more expensive show with the shins.
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Originally posted by miss pretentious:
Originally posted by JohnnyBaconbitz:
Scrapping the 10/23 show is lame beyond belief. Will the band be too tired after playing happy hour in Columbia for a club date the next night?
as mentioned before and before that and i'm sure about 5 other times... it has to do with ticket sales. not spoon being "too tired for a club date the next night."
obviously, if they play both shows, which are you going to go to? the cheaper, smaller club show... knocking out some ticket sales for the bigger, more expensive show with the shins. [/b]
Things were fine as they were and in my view should have been left as they were. I'm real disappointed that I can't see Spoon anymore even though I have tickets for the 23rd. It is impossible for me to get to Merriweather.
So, you win some you lose some. I'll get over it. But, I maintain that shows should not be cancelled for any other reason than illness, bereavement etc
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Originally posted by miss pretentious:
Originally posted by le sonick:
Originally posted by Charlie Nakatestes,Japanese Golfer:
I don't think think anyone was displeased BEFORE the change was made, so why rock the boat?
Originally posted by Brandon Brendall, the thief:
Yes, some people are understandably disappointed, but you can't please everyone all the time, and this pleases more people.
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you dont think anyone was upset that they had to choose between Spoon and the Shins? [/b]
well, previously it wasn't a choice because there were two spoon shows to choose from. [/b]
it would have been a choice for me and anyone else who either, dont want to be out 2 nights in a row, or cant afford tickets to both shows.
either way, alls i am saying is that i am sure some people are tickled pink about Spoon playing, namely mostly everyone who already bought or is planning on buying a shins ticket.
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Originally posted by miss pretentious:
Originally posted by JohnnyBaconbitz:
Scrapping the 10/23 show is lame beyond belief. Will the band be too tired after playing happy hour in Columbia for a club date the next night?
as mentioned before and before that and i'm sure about 5 other times... it has to do with ticket sales. not spoon being "too tired for a club date the next night."
obviously, if they play both shows, which are you going to go to? the cheaper, smaller club show... knocking out some ticket sales for the bigger, more expensive show with the shins. [/b]
if i had to choose from driving to DC and seeing just Spoon, or driving to Columbia and seeing Spoon and the Shins, not to mention Vetiver, i would definitely be picking Merriweather. ;)
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Britt says don't make me a target, Seth says Ga Ga Ga Ga Ga go to Merriweather.
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Originally posted by Seth Hurwitz:
You should get all your service charges back
let me know here if you don't
How do I get my refund? I didn't get the email, but I already got my ticket for the show on the 23rd in the mail.
I'm also very disappointed. I was really really looking forward to seeing Spoon at the club.
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How many of you complaining were born between 1979 and 1994 (http://www.thedailystar.com/news/stories/2005/07/02/gen1.html)?
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I'll be satisfied with my GA pit ticket to see Spoon, long as they play a full set.
I've accepted the fact that they're not playing 9:30 and I'm cool.
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Originally posted by vansmack:
How many of you complaining were born between 1979 and 1994 (http://www.thedailystar.com/news/stories/2005/07/02/gen1.html)?
Sorry...'76.
By the way, it's laughable that you confuse holding a vendor accountable with "entitlement."
However...I suppose that I do feel "entitled" to satisfaction when a business markets its product to me and I respond making a purchase.
Where I come from, that's just called "living up to your end of a deal."
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i cant believe its such a big deal.
you people have nothing worse happening in your lives right now than having to drive 30 extra minutes to see Spoon????
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When you have a group of people meeting for the 10/23 show because they couldn't do the 10/22 show, it is a big deal.
I was one of the few people who had tix for both night.
Buying tickets to a show and then having it negged is fundamentally lame. It's odd that the concept is foreign to you.
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Originally posted by le sonick:
i cant believe its such a big deal.
you people have nothing worse happening in your lives right now than having to drive 30 extra minutes to see Spoon????
I live in DC, don't have a car and don't rate the Shins live show. I have every right to be unhappy about this.
I agree that unless they can't 'live up to their end of the deal' that they should have stuck to the original plan. That's my opinion.
I'm over it - but I imagine that among ticket holders, plenty of people were unhappy to receive that email last Friday night and with good reason in my view.
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Originally posted by JohnnyBaconbitz:
By the way, it's laughable that you confuse holding a vendor accountable with "entitlement."
Please...he owes you nothing. Accountable for what? The band is still playing the area and that is thanks to one person - why don't you guys just say thank you. Does it make any sense for him to lose money on both shows or to combine them into one show and not take a loss? As he said, most fans actually want to see both bands anyway! Your prescious Spoon are still playing a show in the area - be thankful.
It's not like he cancelled a sold out show and replaced it with aonther sold out show that would make him more money. He has the best intentions with this and yes, shows a little business sense. Maybe that's why he a respected promoter.
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Originally posted by Fadger:
I live in DC, don't have a car
I lived in DC for 8 years without a car and never missed a show that I wanted to see at Merriweather or an O's game in Balitmore. There are plenty of people who are willing to offer rides - and a lot of them are on this board. Have you even bothered to try to find a ride?
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Some of us who are not happy about this are a long way from young and feeling entitled. Some of us work over 50 hours a week, live in the city, are over 30 years old, and need our sleep to perform our grown-up jobs. (I realize that the fact that I'm wasting a little time typing this from work throws into question my claim of a grown-up job, but bear with me...)
A club date to/from which we can walk or taxi after a full days work and still arrive home before midnight is INFINITELY preferable to having to leave work early, having to face commuter traffic to the Maryland burbs and then waiting in the parking lot after 11 at night throught the slow process of filing out and arriving home around 12:30 or so. The former is a fun evening out hearing a top-notch band, the latter is an expensive hassle followed by a poor night's sleep, with a little good entertainment sandwiched in the middle.
Agreed this is hardly the biggest problem in the world, but it certainly a sufficiently significant factor to change from a go to a no-go decision.
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Fair points. Nobody is saying that there isn't a more preferable choice between the two (9 out of ten would prefer the 9:30 club), nor is anbybody saying that choosing not to go is a bad decision.
I think most people are just over the crying about it. I think if the Spoon lovers replaced Spoon with another band that wasn't their favorite, they would see that this switch makes sense.
It's not like Seth didn't provide folks with a good (and I would even argue fair) alternative. To be disappointed is understandable, but to attack him on this is just silly.
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Originally posted by vansmack:
Originally posted by Fadger:
I live in DC, don't have a car
I lived in DC for 8 years without a car and never missed a show that I wanted to see at Merriweather or an O's game in Balitmore. There are plenty of people who are willing to offer rides - and a lot of them are on this board. Have you even bothered to try to find a ride? [/b]
there are people who live in farfax too. try and not leave work early and get to a show remotely on time. damn near impossible. if i had bought a ticket for spoon in DC and it was moved to merriweather, id be pissed. i did have a car, but i couldnt leave work early when i felt like it.
there may be light at the end of the tunnel. spoon is headlining cmj (think theyre playing on a sat). but id imagine it will be insanely crowded, that if i were a fan itd be better at merriweather in the pit :)
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is this where i can lay on the old "its just an example of capitalist america and if you dont like it, you can leave" line i get so often when arguing how sometimes business practices seem morally inconvenient?
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So how about booking Justice to play the club on one of the newly open club dates? Hmmmmmmm?
There can't be too much cross-over between Justice and Shins fans.
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Originally posted by vansmack:
Originally posted by Fadger:
I live in DC, don't have a car
I lived in DC for 8 years without a car and never missed a show that I wanted to see at Merriweather or an O's game in Balitmore. There are plenty of people who are willing to offer rides - and a lot of them are on this board. Have you even bothered to try to find a ride? [/b]
No, I haven't. It's only one reason and not THE reason I'm not going. If this alternative show was really attractive to me I'd deal with the inconvenience of getting to Merriweather.
I don't think that a show should be cancelled for a reason such as this.
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Originally posted by xneverwherex:
there are people who live in farfax too.
In fairness, I don't recognize anyone that lives across a bridge or through a tunnel until they get into my area. I didn't think this was much of a secret.
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Originally posted by Fadger:
I don't think that a show should be cancelled for a reason such as this.
You say cancelled, I say moved. And there lies the difference....
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You complainers need to get a life. Poor you!(in Livia Sopranos best voice.) So you have to leave work early. As Seth said earlier, Spoon and The Shins won't be coming on til later, so you probably don't have to leave too early. There is no traffic leaving from the show and if you park at the Mall there is no waiting to get out so you should be home in bed by midnight snuggling with your Teddy Poo.
Or worse case scenario, you don't get to see Spoon this time around. You'll live (although pathetically).
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Originally posted by vansmack:
Originally posted by Fadger:
I don't think that a show should be cancelled for a reason such as this.
You say cancelled, I say moved. And there lies the difference.... [/b]
And the email I received from the club says "Spoon has agreed to play on The Shins bill at Merriweather Post Pavilion on October 22, so the 9:30 Club shows have been cancelled."
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Originally posted by vansmack:
Originally posted by xneverwherex:
there are people who live in farfax too.
In fairness, I don't recognize anyone that lives across a bridge or through a tunnel until they get into my area. I didn't think this was much of a secret. [/b]
well at one time i wasnt that much of a snob, since i lived there. now im much the same way ;)
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It's really not that serious. Plus there's one very simple solution. If you get just hammered enough, being in the GA pit will be an experience akin to the floor @ 9:30. Unless you're coming up from Northern VA or further out (it's not that serious), it's not really gonna throw off your schedule too hard. Stop bitching. There's plenty of time to come up with a work around plan. Plus I've seen plenty of instances where boardies were willing to give rides to complete strangers. The man's running a bid-ness here. I've seen people with a lot less money, respect, & accomplisments who don't interact with his customers on anywhere near the level Seth does. Plus he's humble about it & even cracks a joke here & there. The man made a smart business move while trying to appease his client base. For crying out loud, the "Hey Seth" thread requests for shows seem to get granted (realistic ones) at a like 60%+ clip. Plus Spoon's doing a complete set. Other than some more meticulous planning, what the fuck is there to bitch about?
Some of the complaints are warranted due to respective personal situations with some boardies.
But the rest of y'all sound like some whiny ass bitches.
True story . . .
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Which one of you told pitchfork?
The Shins aren't made of squishy yellow foam like Spoon's other new friend,
but the two bands have enough mutual affection to account for their appearance on the same October 22 bill at the Merriweather Post Pavilion in Columbia,
Maryland. (Vetiver opens the show.)
What this means, though, is that Spoon were forced to cancel both of their shows at D.C.'s 9:30 Club on October 22 and 23. In addition to a simple refund,
ticketholders for those shows have two options for attending the Merriweather Post Pavilion show:
1) Go to the 9:30 or Merriweather box office, and trade in the original ticket and an extra ten dollars for a General Admission Pit or Reserved Pavilion
ticket.
2) Bring the original ticket to Merriweather on the day of the show for a lawn seat.
Other North American residents have a much easier decision to make: To go or not to go. The decisions continue September 5 in Seattle.
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Originally posted by vansmack:
Originally posted by Fadger:
I don't think that a show should be cancelled for a reason such as this.
You say cancelled, I say moved. And there lies the difference.... [/b]
The 10/23 show was moved?
To when?
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Originally posted by JohnnyBaconbitz:
The 10/23 show was moved?
To when?
To 10/22 at the Merriweather post pavilion - didn't you get the memo?
2 nights at the 9:30 Club = 2400 people.
One night at the Merriweather post = 16,500.
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Thanks for the advanced math lesson, Professor.
As a counterpoint I would argue that 2 shows > 1 show...but maybe that's fuzzy math.
It takes a special degree of class for you to call out your customers as whiners and basically flip them off for wanting to enjoy the product you marketed to them.
As much as you want to convince everyone a non-healine slot at MPP is the same thing as 2 shows at the club, it's not and you know it.
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Just so we're clear, your use of the unidentified pronoun "you" forces me to point out that I have no affiliation with the 9:30 Club or MPP or IMP Productions.
I am simply the voice of reason in this God Forsaken world.
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Pathetic. This qualifies as "news" for pitchfork?
Originally posted by azaghal1981:
Which one of you told pitchfork?
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i was born in 1973. there are worse things going on in the world. i am sure sales for the shins show needed a boost or it was perceived that they would need a boost as i saw their dull ass opening show for the white stripes at the same venue. i am particularly glad now that i went to the sonar spoon show a few months ago and can no doubt thank one mr. hurwitz for it. that being said, a 9:30 show blows the doors off a merriweather show any goddamn day of the week unless one lives in columbia, md or b-more or wherever. i don't think there is any opinion involved in that statement. it's a fact.
so the deal is: go sit in the lawn at merriweather for the spoon opening "full show including encores" or get a refund. i mean, there is no choice in that equation. i think the shins are great and love their albums and generally think people who give a fuck about whether bands are too big need to get a life but their live show is average at best. that's an opinion. probably a widely held one.
as for this statement:
Just so we're clear, your use of the unidentified pronoun "you" forces me to point out that I have no affiliation with the 9:30 Club or MPP or IMP Productions.
your statements throughout this post could merit the title of "aspiring unpaid sycophant" for the firm. really - what is your horse in this race?
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really I love all you people
well...maybe the ones who stick up for me a WEE bit better
butI am grateful for anyone who cares enough to take the time to post
the Spoon record is fucking great though...can't stop playing it
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Originally posted by yinzer:
your statements throughout this post could merit the title of "aspiring unpaid sycophant" for the firm. really - what is your horse in this race?
Seth "pays" me by keeping me entertained on this board everyday. If he were to shut this board down, my life would crumble into a depressing abyss that would make Ben Sanderson look like the court jester.
Oh wait, no. If that were true I'd be crying on a message board about a show being moved to a different venue like it were the end of the world and I was somehow wronged by this. I'd rip apart a guy who has, for years, brought the best shows to DC for ONE decision he made, that when emotions are put aside, probably looks like it makes a lot of sense. I'm a little more well-adjusted than that.
I've been on this board a long time and can tell you that for every bad decision Seth has made, he has gone above and beyond for the music fan in the DC/Baltimore area and even makes himself available for abuse, though he doesn't have to. He seeks input from his customers and gives his peeps heads up for soft sales and special events. How many other club owners do that?
How many of you remember when he was thinking of switching to tickets.com and asked our advice?
How many of you remember when Tickets.com was having problems and he made a guy from tickets.com join the board and answer our questions?
Or more recently, when he sought our opinion on the venue for V-Fest?
What about how he asks us our opinions after big events so he can improve them?
The guy doesn't deserve the abuse. And you can piss off for calling me an "aspring unpaid sycophant." I don't aspire because I'm a doer. I have no time for aspiring. If I wanted to be a sycophant, I would. And if I wanted to get paid, I would. I've never met the man, and likely never will. If anything, I'm his worst customer because I attend zero shows at his venues since I moved, so there's absolutely no benefit for me in kissing his ass.
So, what's my horse in this race? The common sense of man. I'm bringing it back, because, remember, I'm a doer.
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Originally posted by yinzer:
i am sure sales for the shins show needed a boost or it was perceived that they would need a boost as i saw their dull ass opening show for the white stripes at the same venue. i am particularly glad now that i went to the sonar spoon show a few months ago and can no doubt thank one mr. hurwitz for it. that being said, a 9:30 show blows the doors off a merriweather show any goddamn day of the week unless one lives in columbia, md or b-more or wherever. i don't think there is any opinion involved in that statement. it's a fact.
so the deal is: go sit in the lawn at merriweather for the spoon opening "full show including encores" or get a refund. i mean, there is no choice in that equation.
I agree with all of this. I'm beginning to realize that this is basically a business decision that hasn't gone my way. When I bought my ticket I thought we had a deal!
The Shins should be supporting them - the two times I saw them live they were shit, in spite of their excellent records.
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I'm not going to jump on the "stop abusing Seth" train because he's not getting abused. People questioning a business decision is not abusive. No one's calling him a jerk personally or hanging him in effigy. Customers are expressing their displeasure with a decision they find odious through the most easily accessible channel they can find. And to be fair, while expressing their displeasure, they've been mostly respectful as far as I've seen.
Now, at the same time, I'm not going to defend the people going ape over this because it's a concert and they're going way overboard. Do you like the way this turned out? Obviously not. But it's not as though he callously stopped the band from coming to the area at all, or gave you no options in the matter. In fact, I'd bet he probably has more then a little to do with you getting your service charges back, should you want a refund (i.e. he's paying them out of pocket as opposed to tickets.com giving them back).
So, I guess, my point is both sides need to chill out. The people who think this concert was only worth attending at 9:30 and find it ridiculous that the event was moved post-ticket sales have made their point clearly known. I'm sure Seth has taken note of the overwhelming public opinion on the matter. But then on the other hand, no one is being rude to the guy so everyone who's up in arms over Seth's treatment probably need to take a "stop flaking out" pill too.
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Originally posted by vansmack:
The guy doesn't deserve the abuse.
I'm certainly not in the business of abusing Seth, but I do very much disagree with canceling shows for what are essentially look like business reasons.
That said, I think on the whole he does a fantastic job and I do hold his running of the club in a very high regard - I reckon I am entitled to disagree in this one instance . . . no hard feelings at this end though, I can assure you - I'm over it, but I do find it to be an interesting topic. I can't ever recall a similar thing happening to me before
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i second the common sense revival.
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Originally posted by le sonick:
if i had to choose from driving to DC and seeing just Spoon, or driving to Columbia and seeing Spoon and the Shins, not to mention Vetiver, i would definitely be picking Merriweather. ;)
if they moved a show from MW to 930, you'd be acting like you were born between 1979 and 1994 too.
Originally posted by JohnnyBaconbitz:
Buying tickets to a show and then having it negged is fundamentally lame. It's odd that the concept is foreign to you.
well, he is a foreigner, so everything is a bit odd with him.
Originally posted by MSI_Jeremy:
Some of us who are not happy about this are a long way from young and feeling entitled. Some of us work over 50 hours a week, live in the city, are over 30 years old, and need our sleep to perform our grown-up jobs. (I realize that the fact that I'm wasting a little time typing this from work throws into question my claim of a grown-up job, but bear with me...)
A club date to/from which we can walk or taxi after a full days work and still arrive home before midnight is INFINITELY preferable to having to leave work early, having to face commuter traffic to the Maryland burbs and then waiting in the parking lot after 11 at night throught the slow process of filing out and arriving home around 12:30 or so. The former is a fun evening out hearing a top-notch band, the latter is an expensive hassle followed by a poor night's sleep, with a little good entertainment sandwiched in the middle.
Agreed this is hardly the biggest problem in the world, but it certainly a sufficiently significant factor to change from a go to a no-go decision.
i like the new kid (or, more precisely, the new not-a-kid).
Originally posted by azaghal1981:
So how about booking Justice to play the club on one of the newly open club dates? Hmmmmmmm?
There can't be too much cross-over between Justice and Shins fans.
most lucid thing that's been said in this entire thread.
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Yeah pitchfork has become as pitiful as the NY Post when it comes to their "news" section. Remember the big fuss they made about Jeff Mangum going to see Os Mutantes and then the Instruments and then (gasp!) sitting in with the Instruments for one song?
Originally posted by wanderlust featuring j. marshmallow:
Pathetic. This qualifies as "news" for pitchfork?
Originally posted by azaghal1981:
Which one of you told pitchfork?
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Originally posted by MSI_Jeremy:
Some of us who are not happy about this are a long way from young and feeling entitled. Some of us work over 50 hours a week, live in the city, are over 30 years old, and need our sleep to perform our grown-up jobs. (I realize that the fact that I'm wasting a little time typing this from work throws into question my claim of a grown-up job, but bear with me...)
A club date to/from which we can walk or taxi after a full days work and still arrive home before midnight is INFINITELY preferable to having to leave work early, having to face commuter traffic to the Maryland burbs and then waiting in the parking lot after 11 at night throught the slow process of filing out and arriving home around 12:30 or so. The former is a fun evening out hearing a top-notch band, the latter is an expensive hassle followed by a poor night's sleep, with a little good entertainment sandwiched in the middle.
Agreed this is hardly the biggest problem in the world, but it certainly a sufficiently significant factor to change from a go to a no-go decision.
What makes you think that every aging working stiff lives within the DC Beltway or somewhere around NOVA? Believe me, there are plenty others who live well outside of the Beltway, in every direction, who must make these exact same concessions for every 9:30 Club show they want to attend. Often, they end up missing a lot of shows they would love to see but just can't work things out. It sucks but we can't all be of such a privileged class.
Smackie, I don't think birth year is what determines that entitlement mentality. In some cases, I think it's a DC thing. I know I'm pissing a lot of people off but I've seen this attitude way too often. Quite often by some of the same people who think nothing of flying off to another locale to see any given show but God forbid, on the odd occassion, they have to drive a couple extra miles outside of DC. Christ, it's not even up to Baltimore!
To be honest, the only ones I feel a bit sorry for are those well south of DC and those without cars. In either case, there are potentially workable options. If not, you can opt for a full refund, including service fees. No one is being screwed over. If anything, you are getting a bonus show on top of it all for your 'troubles'. Gesh! I'm not even much of a Shins fan but I'd sure stay to see them just because I'm getting an opportunity to see yet another okay band. I might even end up liking them! If not, flipping leave and get a good night's sleep so you can get your over-worked ass in to work on time and be all bright eyed and bushy tailed.
You guys are lucky it's only for Spoon who do get around here on occassion. Be happy it's not happening for someone like Bjork, Daft Punk or Radiohead whom you have to bend over and take what you can get.
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just was curious - i dont know (recall) ticket.com's policy as far as refunds, but i know with ticketweb if a show is cancelled you get refunded ALL of your money. that includes service charges. ive never had a problem with this, so id imagine its the same policy with tickets.com, or is it not?? I'd like to think that Seth isn't forking out his own hard-earned money, because of a show being cancelled, although in this case i dont know if its considered a cancellation according to tickets.com.
and if they don't give back your service charge money - its a bit screwy of a system (although it really wouldnt surprise me). i did get back all my money for my moz tickets, which was ticketmaster.
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Originally posted by xneverwherex:
just was curious - i dont know (recall) ticket.com's policy as far as refunds, but i know with ticketweb if a show is cancelled you get refunded ALL of your money. that includes service charges. ive never had a problem with this, so id imagine its the same policy with tickets.com, or is it not?? I'd like to think that Seth isn't forking out his own hard-earned money, because of a show being cancelled, although in this case i dont know if its considered a cancellation according to tickets.com.
Their stated policy (per their website) is that they retain fees even on cancelled events. The part about Seth paying the fees was pure conjecture by me, so I wouldn't put alot of stock in that.
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I don't know who this vansmack is...
but I LIKE him
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I think you just made his decade by posting that...
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um, I think my question got lost in all of this arguing:
HOW DO I GET MY REFUND? I ordered online and I did not get the email announcing the cancellation. I cannot go to the Merriwether show. I just want to be sure to get all my money back. all of it :)
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Originally posted by JohnnyBaconbitz:
I think you just made his decade by posting that...
Hayden Leslie Panettiere was born on August 21, 1989. That's all that matters to me today.
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Spoon bonus!!! I love a good show at Merriwether, due to its close proximity at home. I was not a fan of spoon until recently. I checked out their music after this whole show fiasco, and I have to say, i cant wait to see them live!
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The Shins at DAR were the worst show I have seen all year
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i wasnt going to go to either show, as i have seen both before and its during the week, but for both? i am now considering it. and i live in reston
thanks seth!
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Perhaps you could loan him one of your teenage daughters for his 34th birthday party. :D
Originally posted by Seth Hurwitz:
I don't know who this vansmack is...
but I LIKE him
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Because I know you all were waiting on this... WaPo's own J Free's take on the Spoon Switcharoo, from today's chat.
"Dupont Circle, Washington, D.C.: I don't know if you read them, but there has been a little flare up on the 930 Club message boards over Spoon's shows on the 22nd & 23rd of October being moved to playing with the Shins at Merriweather on the 22nd. Spoon will be opening, but playing a full set, those who bought a Spoon ticket before the changed was announced can use it for a lawn seat or upgrade to a assigned seat for $10 (or get a full refund). Some people are not happy with having to drive to Columbia to see the show, or seeing it at Merriweather when expecting to see it at 930.
Do you have an opinion on all this?
J. Freedom du Lac: On the one hand, yeah, it's a drag that they'll be in a siginificantly larger venue -- and that those who live in or around DC will have to hit the road to see the show. On the other hand -- you get to go outside and take in some fresh air. And let's face it, most indie-rock fans could stand to get out a little more. Producer David can, anyway.
Seriously, though -- I don't have a particularly strong opinion about this. The pricing seems to be fair. And I do think Merriweather is a great venue as far as outdoor sheds go. We're lucky to have it.
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Washington, D.C.: Wednesday I get an e-mail that Spoon is playing 2 shows at the 9:30 Club 10/22 & 10/23. Fantastic, so I buy 6 for 10/23. Then I get an e-mail 4 days later that because Spoon will open for The Shins and Merriweather 10/22, BOTH DC shows are cancelled. Offers me a chance to upgrade to pit seats for the show, but I don't have much interest in seeing half a Spoon show or seeing the shins. Merriweather simply is not as good a venue either.
Sounds sloppy. Why can't they just honor the tickets for the 9:30 show the 23rd? Spoon was great at Sonar earlier this year, BTW
J. Freedom du Lac: Another vote against the bait-and-(venue) switch.
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Spoon Switcheroo, D.C.: Of course it's understandable that promoters don't want Spoon doing any shows in DC before playing MPP -- that would dampen their audience.
But MPP vs. 9:30 is a big difference for those of us that live in the city. Even though MPP is nice, it is not even close to downtown, involves a much bigger time commitment, and overall hassle. So it's not as simple as the weather being nice.
Why can't DC have a big outdoor music venue in city limits, like so many other big metro areas? (Think Festival Pier in Philly, or Central Park Stage in NYC.) Having to drive well outside the beltway for summer concerts is no fun.
J. Freedom du Lac: Yeah, but then you'd have to live in Philadelphia.
I wouldn't mind the lack of summer venues inside the Beltway so much if I could get to Nissan or Merriweather Post without driving. Just one more thing to love about Wolf Trap. I can Metro to Falls Church West then hop the shuttle bus to the venue.
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The fall out continues
http://dcist.com/2007/08/22/no_more_spoon_s.php#comments (http://dcist.com/2007/08/22/no_more_spoon_s.php#comments)
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I'm curious about this whole "doesn't make sense to have two different concerts" line of reasoning . . . does this mean that the 9:30 NEVER has a show on a night that there's a Merriweather concert? Seems like a fairly odd policy, if it is one. Or maybe it's just, "doesn't make sense to have two different concerts by bands playing vaguely similar styles of music"?
Actually, I think it's pretty clear that it "doesn't make sense to have two different concerts on the same night when one them has no prayer of selling out and I can use the enthusiasm for the other show to gin up enthusiasum for the underselling one." It's simply a business decision, and has nothing to do with musical logic or providing greater "value" to the customer.
Unfortunately, no one wants to go to an outdoor show at the end of October, and The Shins are a decidedly underwhelming live band. It may be true that no one was "screwed" by this switch, but it's still pretty lousy for those of us who WERE excited to see Spoon, and now will definitely not be doing so.
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How much were Spoon tickets? And buy adding $10 you get to not only see a full Spoon set and be just as close as you would be at 9:30, but you also get a headlining Shins set, plus an opening band if you manage to get there early enough?
I think the Shins and Spoon are pretty bland live, but that deal makes me wish I had bought Spoon tix. Anyone want to sell a set of Spoon tickets for face value?
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Originally posted by nkotb:
How much were Spoon tickets?
$20.
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Originally posted by Charlie Nakatestes,Japanese Golfer:
Perhaps you could loan him one of your teenage daughters for his 34th birthday party. :D
Originally posted by Seth Hurwitz:
I don't know who this vansmack is...
but I LIKE him
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totally creepy.
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So for $30 you get Spoon playing a full set, the Shins playing a full set, and an opening set from Vetiver, all no more than 30 feet from the stage?
You all are crybabies.
Originally posted by Bombay Chutney:
Originally posted by nkotb:
How much were Spoon tickets?
$20. [/b]
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Originally posted by nkotb:
So for $30 you get Spoon playing a full set, the Shins playing a full set, and an opening set from Vetiver, all no more than 30 feet from the stage?
You all are crybabies.
Originally posted by Bombay Chutney:
Originally posted by nkotb:
How much were Spoon tickets?
$20. [/b]
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I would agree with you if this was taking place at the club. However, the change of venue is the big problem for many, including myself. Simply not practical for me to go to MPP.
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Well no shit. There isn't a single person who WOULD bitch about that.
Is it a matter of no car or of time not working out for you? The second I can understand, but if it's the first, there are tons of options. Carpool if need be.
Originally posted by Fadger:
I would agree with you if this was taking place at the club. However, the change of venue is the big problem for many, including myself. Simply not practical for me to go to MPP.
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I think a lot of people in this town would be really happy if Spoon played the 23rd at the club in addition to the Shins gig.
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I hate to ruin some folks' fairyland perception of the music biz, but a support act is booked to sell tickets
playing the next night for less kind of defeats the purpose
IT IS A BUSINESS
THERE IS NO SANTA CLAUS
BABIES COME FROM THE STORK
well, at least that's how that last one was explained to me
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Originally posted by Seth Hurwitz:
I hate to ruin some folks' fairyland perception of the music biz, but a support act is booked to sell tickets
playing the next night for less kind of defeats the purpose
IT IS A BUSINESS
THERE IS NO SANTA CLAUS
BABIES COME FROM THE STORK
well, at least that's how that last one was explained to me
Post of the week.
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Originally posted by Seth Hurwitz:
I hate to ruin some folks' fairyland perception of the music biz, but a support act is booked to sell tickets
playing the next night for less kind of defeats the purpose
IT IS A BUSINESS
THERE IS NO SANTA CLAUS
BABIES COME FROM THE STORK
well, at least that's how that last one was explained to me
Sorry, I forgot that it's your party.
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Originally posted by Fadger:
The fall out continues
http://dcist.com/2007/08/22/no_more_spoon_s.php#comments (http://dcist.com/2007/08/22/no_more_spoon_s.php#comments)
i'll be the first to admit that i'm super gullible, but refer again to this link to dcist and note comment 26. i'm inclined to believe this...?
(please don't throw things at me!)
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If it's not legit, it's a hilarious fake.
I bet pitchfork would eat it up and report it without checking to see that it checks out.
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The grammar and spelling are way too correct for it to be a real rock star.
Originally posted by azaghal1981:
If it's not legit, it's a hilarious fake.
I bet pitchfork would eat it up and report it without checking to see that it checks out.
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Britt is a total geek. Of course he knows grammar and punctuation. *sigh* I love him :) He needs to marry me.
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Oh, and do you think I should hang onto my ticket for the 23rd just in case the MPP show sells out and they can do the show on the 23rd? Or is that just wishful thinking? I have until November 7th to mail my tickets in for the refund anyway...
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If that happened, they could sell tickets to ONE Spoon show at a higher price than they were getting before. Would make great business sense!
Originally posted by MyraEllen:
Oh, and do you think I should hang onto my ticket for the 23rd just in case the MPP show sells out and they can do the show on the 23rd? Or is that just wishful thinking? I have until November 7th to mail my tickets in for the refund anyway...
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Originally posted by heather:
note comment 26.
WTF? He posts there where they scoop this discussion 5 days later and not here! Fuck him. Now I definitely wouldn't go to Merriweather if I was a Spoon fan. And not because of of the shows being moved - because he has a poor understanding of where important things really happen in vurtual DC.
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Originally posted by vansmack:
Originally posted by heather:
note comment 26.
WTF? He posts there where they scoop this discussion 5 days later and not here! Fuck him. Now I definitely wouldn't go to Merriweather if I was a Spoon fan. And not because of of the shows being moved - because he has a poor understanding of where important things really happen in vurtual DC. [/b]
dude, if he's not a member here, he couldn't even read this thread to know what's going on. on dcist, he can read freely and post as a guest.
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I forgot to use my sarcasm tabs again.
[sarcasm]That just shows a lack of effort on his part.[/sarcasm]
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Will this thread never die??
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Originally posted by jeffml:
Will this thread never die??
we have 900 posts to go before we equal the pumpkins thread.
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Originally posted by Fadger:
also - the sneakiness of sending out this email late on a Friday should not be overlooked. What a let down on so many levels
I bought Spoon tickets at the club, so of course didn't get an email. And I've been out of town, so have just learned of this via the email blast.
Monday shows suck, and Monday shows in MD. Shit.
Though, I think IMP is doing the best for folks who bought tickets -- considering I paid $21 at the box office, and can upgrade to Pavillion for only $10 more, which is the same as a new lawn ticket.
But, of course, I have no desire to see The Shins. Actually, when I first read about the change, I assumed The Shins were opening for Spoon. Not kidding about that... ;)
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Originally posted by tigers scare me:
but what about the Ponys?
OH SHIT, THAT'S RIGHT! It was the Ponys I wanted to see the MOST!!!!!
Man oh man.
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Originally posted by TheDirector217:
there's one very simple solution. If you get just hammered enough, being in the GA pit will be an experience akin to the floor @ 9:30
Except that we have to drive 45 minutes home. No 'hammered' on that Monday night...
[Clearly I've been out of town and am just reading all of this, responding very late...}
I haven't finished reading the whole thread, but you know this whole switcheroo is not just IMP trying to fill a bigger venue. This is a big opportunity/boost for Spoon, too, to play to a crowd of 15,000 rather than two nights at the club. And while I can hear some of you whining that it's unfair to play to a bigger 'disinterested' crowd rather than a small club of dedicated fans, don't you realize it's the JOB of a band to BUILD its fanbase???
And for Spoon, gambling on Shins fan is a pretty damn good gamble.
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Originally posted by nkotb:
Anyone want to sell a set of Spoon tickets for face value?
If any of my posse don't want their ticket, I'll sell my $20 ticket and you can exchange it for a $30 pavillion seat (or Pit).
Speaking of Pit, does this mean they're reserving the whole pit for club ticket holders?
Also, when do pavillion seats go on sale? How do we get a good seat (my seat position may determine whether I go...).
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can the shins really fill mpp? seth probably had to beef up the bill. can the shins and spoon really fill mpp?
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Originally posted by anarchist:
can the shins really fill mpp? seth probably had to beef up the bill. can the shins and spoon really fill mpp?
No. And no. I'll slam a $100 on the table on that @ 2:1 odds. Who's bitin'???
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Originally posted by Bags:
Speaking of Pit, does this mean they're reserving the whole pit for club ticket holders?
Also, when do pavillion seats go on sale? How do we get a good seat (my seat position may determine whether I go...).
They're already on sale. The pit isn't just for club ticket holders. You can still buy pit tickets from TM. They seem to have plenty.
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I'll refrain from stating a long, drawn-out opinion. I'm not happy, but I appreciate what Seth does, and I think IMP always tries to do best for us.
My question is: How are people receiving these emails? I'm on the 9:30 newsletter list, and don't remember seeing it there, but I'm not on Spoon's.
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Originally posted by vassego:
My question is: How are people receiving these emails? I'm on the 9:30 newsletter list, and don't remember seeing it there, but I'm not on Spoon's.
I'm pretty sure it was in the recent 9:30 email blast. I imagine it also went to people who bought tickets online.
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Why is tickets.com still selling tickets for the now canceled 930 Spoon shows??
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Originally posted by wanderlust featuring j. marshmallow:
Why is tickets.com still selling tickets for the now canceled 930 Spoon shows??
The Shins have agreed to move their shows to the 9:30 Club where they will open two nights for Spoon.
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Originally posted by ggwâ?¢:
Originally posted by wanderlust featuring j. marshmallow:
Why is tickets.com still selling tickets for the now canceled 930 Spoon shows??
The Shins have agreed to move their shows to the 9:30 Club where they will open two nights for Spoon. [/b]
If only . . . .what an improved arrangement that would be
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Originally posted by Bombay Chutney:
Originally posted by vassego:
My question is: How are people receiving these emails? I'm on the 9:30 newsletter list, and don't remember seeing it there, but I'm not on Spoon's.
I'm pretty sure it was in the recent 9:30 email blast. I imagine it also went to people who bought tickets online. [/b]
Thanks. Maybe if it was a blast, I just skipped that part...oh well. I rarely buy my tickets online, which could also be why I didn't see any emails.