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=> GENERAL DISCUSSION => Topic started by: ggw on October 06, 2004, 11:38:00 am
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City to get 100-band music fest
'05 event to feature cutting-edge bands
Wednesday, October 06, 2004
John Soeder
Plain Dealer Pop Music Critic
If you think Cleveland rocks now, wait till next year.
As part of its 10th anniversary celebration in 2005, the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame and Museum plans to bring more than 100 bands to town in June for a three-day, four-night festival of cutting-edge music, in partnership with the CMJ (College Media Journal) Network.
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holy shit, i love it.
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Why can't they put it in a city people would actually want to travel to?
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Originally posted by Rhett Miller:
Why can't they put it in a city people would actually want to travel to?
they are hoping you wont go, you whiny bitch.
and they do stuff like this to boost economies of cities...cities people like, dont need that...duh
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My dream is to facilitate something like this, likely smaller, to DC. So Seth, when you want to sit down and talk about this, let me know. :)
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Originally posted by redsock:
My dream is to facilitate something like this
mine too.
i also wanted to play left field for the Red Sox. :(
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Why don't you try it in a city where the economy needs a boost?
Originally posted by redsock:
My dream is to facilitate something like this, likely smaller, to DC. So Seth, when you want to sit down and talk about this, let me know. :)
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Originally posted by Rhett Miller:
Why don't you try it in a city where the economy needs a boost?
Originally posted by redsock:
My dream is to facilitate something like this, likely smaller, to DC. So Seth, when you want to sit down and talk about this, let me know. :)
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While Cleveland is obviously hurting, I think there are very few cities in this country right now that don't need a boost. DC may be be one of them I suppsoe. Though, I'm not sure a weekend of music would boost too much here, especially in the summer when DC thrives because of tourism anyway.
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Originally posted by sonickteam2:
Originally posted by redsock:
My dream is to facilitate something like this
mine too.
i also wanted to play left field for the Red Sox. :( [/b]
Couldnt be any worse defensively than Manny.
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Originally posted by Rob_Gee:
Couldnt be any worse defensively than Manny. [/b]
Ask Miguel Cairo how well Manny plays D. Dumb ass still thinks he hit a homer.
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Originally posted by sonickteam2:
holy shit, i love it.
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Originally posted by Rhett Miller:
Why can't they put it in a city people would actually want to travel to?
Well, you're supposedly a baseball fan - maybe you could go to Jacobs Field while you are there, and the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame. Sounds like a great show to me.
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i've been to cleveland 3 times...2 out of the 3 times i got the stomach flu...while, the one time i was there and not puking all over the place, i had a great time, i try to stay away from cleveland
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I have two baseball teams within 60 miles of my home. Why would their having a baseball team draw me to Cleveland when I can just go here?
And the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame just strikes me as schlock.
Does Cleveland have great dining? great architecture? Interesting people? Mountains for hiking?
Originally posted by keithstg:
Originally posted by Rhett Miller:
Why can't they put it in a city people would actually want to travel to?
Well, you're supposedly a baseball fan - maybe you could go to Jacobs Field while you are there, and the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame. Sounds like a great show to me. [/b]
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they have Lake Erie.
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Don't they have a flaming river too?
That would be kewl.....
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and Cedar Point isn't that far away is it? that place looks pretty kick ass.
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Originally posted by Rhett Miller:
Why can't they put it in a city people would actually want to travel to?
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Is that an amusement park? My wife wouldn't go on any of the rides with me, and going by myself wouldn't be any fun :(
Originally posted by sonickteam2:
and Cedar Point isn't that far away is it? that place looks pretty kick ass.
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Originally posted by sonickteam2:
they have Lake Erie.
and a bar on every corner
(or a religious establishment or a funeral home) Something for everyone!
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i have been to cleveland dozens of times, have family there and its only about 2 hours from my hometown of pittsburgh. used to have a ball there, lots of good dining and tons of nice places to drink. i like 6th street alot, the grog shop is an interesting place to see a show.
sounds like a good place to have a showcase. not too expensive for a fairly large city, cheap to fly there, lots of stuff to do downtown.
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Originally posted by Rhett Miller:
Is that an amusement park? My wife wouldn't go on any of the rides with me, and going by myself wouldn't be any fun :(
Originally posted by sonickteam2:
and Cedar Point isn't that far away is it? that place looks pretty kick ass.
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besides, a three day, four night concert, and you wont go cause you can't hike? you make no sense at all.
maybe next year they'll have the show at Rhettland.....
they'll have3 stages.
1 for alt country
1 for regular country
1 for other bands (you know, so people will GO to the concert)
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Takes more than a music festival to get me to go somewhere. If all it took were a music festival, I'd be at Austin City Limits Festival every year. Guess with budget and vacation time limitations, music festivals aren't high enough priority for us to base vacations on them.
Originally posted by sonickteam2:
Originally posted by Rhett Miller:
Is that an amusement park? My wife wouldn't go on any of the rides with me, and going by myself wouldn't be any fun :(
Originally posted by sonickteam2:
and Cedar Point isn't that far away is it? that place looks pretty kick ass.
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besides, a three day, four night concert, and you wont go cause you can't hike? you make no sense at all.
maybe next year they'll have the show at Rhettland.....
they'll have3 stages.
1 for alt country
1 for regular country
1 for other bands (you know, so people will GO to the concert) [/b]
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Originally posted by Rhett Miller:
Takes more than a music festival to get me to go somewhere. If all it took were a music festival, I'd be at Austin City Limits Festival every year. Guess with budget and vacation time limitations, music festivals aren't high enough priority for us to base vacations on them.
well, i went to the beach, played some golf and took a road trip through the desert on my vacation to Coachella......surely with some creativity you could find some exciting stuff to do in Ohio or Western NY/PA. doesnt have to be in downtown Cleveland....
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Originally posted by sonickteam2:
...surely with some creativity you could find some exciting stuff to do in Ohio or Western NY/PA. doesnt have to be in downtown Cleveland....
Check with me - W PA is an entertainment mecca.
This Cleve-Fest can't be all bad.
It's only going to be 1.75 hrs from my house. That's 40% of the required time it takes me to get to the hallowed halls of the Nightclub 9:30.
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You could always hang out with Harvey Pekar.
From off the streets of Cleveland. Here's our man in the 930 Forum.
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Hmmm. We were thinking of going to Spain for a couple of weeks, but perhaps we'll have to reconsider and go to Cleveland.
Originally posted by sonickteam2:
Originally posted by Rhett Miller:
Takes more than a music festival to get me to go somewhere. If all it took were a music festival, I'd be at Austin City Limits Festival every year. Guess with budget and vacation time limitations, music festivals aren't high enough priority for us to base vacations on them.
well, i went to the beach, played some golf and took a road trip through the desert on my vacation to Coachella......surely with some creativity you could find some exciting stuff to do in Ohio or Western NY/PA. doesnt have to be in downtown Cleveland.... [/b]
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Originally posted by Rhett Miller:
Hmmm. We were thinking of going to Spain for a couple of weeks, but perhaps we'll have to reconsider and go to Cleveland.
it would be cheaper.....and you wouldnt have to learn any Spanish
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Cleveland has the biggest Hooters bar & grille I've ever seen.
And it would be cheap -- woo hoo! (The city generally, not Hooters.)
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but you must be pretty stupid if you are reconsidering a trip to Spain to go to Cleveland!
only a Wilco fan, I suppose.
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Sorry, I'm more of an ass man.
Originally posted by Bags:
Cleveland has the biggest Hooters I've ever seen.
And it would be cheap -- woo hoo!
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Good points. I'll run them by the wife and see which wins out.
Originally posted by sonickteam2:
Originally posted by Rhett Miller:
Hmmm. We were thinking of going to Spain for a couple of weeks, but perhaps we'll have to reconsider and go to Cleveland.
it would be cheaper.....and you wouldnt have to learn any Spanish [/b]
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Originally posted by Rhett Miller:
Good points. I'll run them by the wife and see which wins out.
she'll probably pick Hooters.
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Sometimes the jokes write themselves....
Originally posted by Rhett Miller:
Sorry, I'm more of an ass man.
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yesh, cedar point rules!!!!
if you like roller coasters..otherwise, i don't think it would be too exciting
the only bar fight ive ever seen was in cleveland...two women were beating the crap out of each other over who got to the bathroom first
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In my opinion, Cedar Point is the best amusement park in the country. This music fest sounds really promising!
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And sometimes your mom gives birth to them...
Originally posted by ggwâ?¢:
Sometimes the jokes write themselves....
Originally posted by Rhett Miller:
Sorry, I'm more of an ass man.
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90 minutes and that's the best you could come up with?
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Originally posted by Rhett Miller:
Takes more than a music festival to get me to go somewhere.
so...why complain?
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Originally posted by kurosawa-b/w:
In my opinion, Cedar Point is the best amusement park in the country. This music fest sounds really promising!
I agree, K. I'll hold out hope.
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Cleveland has got one of the best dive venues in the country in the Beachland Tavern (perhaps I'm biased b/c I saw a great Sonic Boom, Volta Sound, Warlocks show there three years ago), a great indie label in Elephant Stone Records, a great psych music scene (The Volta Sound, New Planet Trampoline, The Dreadful Yawns, 9 Volt Haunted House) and the areas of Coventry and Lakewood have some good bars and a decent college radio station at Cleveland State U.
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There's more to making a good city than good dive bars and music venues. Bottom line: Cleveland is an impoverished, second tier city with dopey people, and no beauty.
Originally posted by Lazer Guided Melodies:
Cleveland has got one of the best dive venues in the country in the Beachland Tavern (perhaps I'm biased b/c I saw a great Sonic Boom, Volta Sound, Warlocks show there three years ago), a great indie label in Elephant Stone Records, a great psych music scene (The Volta Sound, New Planet Trampoline, The Dreadful Yawns, 9 Volt Haunted House) and the areas of Coventry and Lakewood have some good bars and a decent college radio station at Cleveland State U.
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Originally posted by Rhett Miller:
an impoverished, second tier city with no beauty???
How can you say that? Didn't you see Stranger Than Paradise? (http://www.allmovie.com/cg/avg.dll?p=avg&sql=1:V||||47216|)
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Originally posted by Rhett Miller:
[QB] There's more to making a good city than good dive bars and music venues. Bottom line: Cleveland is an impoverished, second tier city with dopey people, and no beauty.
Sounds like Baltimore to me.
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You're calling John Waters dopey?
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Originally posted by marquee smith:
You're calling John Waters dopey?
I suppose that I can make one exception.
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What about John Sopkins???
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Originally posted by marquee smith:
What about John Sopkins???
Nope. Just one exception. ;)
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Originally posted by Rhett Miller:
There's more to making a good city than good dive bars and music venues. Bottom line: Cleveland is an impoverished, second tier city with dopey people, and no beauty.
the glaring ignorance of rhett is astonishing sometimes. its almost ironic that you talk of everything the way you do...
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So why would I want to go to Cleveland, when I can get to Baltimore in an hour?
Originally posted by keithstg:
Originally posted by Rhett Miller:
[QB] There's more to making a good city than good dive bars and music venues. Bottom line: Cleveland is an impoverished, second tier city with dopey people, and no beauty.
Sounds like Baltimore to me. [/b]
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Originally posted by Rhett Miller:
There's more to making a good city than good dive bars and music venues. Bottom line: Cleveland is an impoverished, second tier city with dopey people, and no beauty.
Originally posted by Lazer Guided Melodies:
Cleveland has got one of the best dive venues in the country in the Beachland Tavern (perhaps I'm biased b/c I saw a great Sonic Boom, Volta Sound, Warlocks show there three years ago), a great indie label in Elephant Stone Records, a great psych music scene (The Volta Sound, New Planet Trampoline, The Dreadful Yawns, 9 Volt Haunted House) and the areas of Coventry and Lakewood have some good bars and a decent college radio station at Cleveland State U.
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I guess the lingering question for me is - why the virulent reaction to Cleveland, and where are you from? I highly doubt that Cleveland is any worse...
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yeah have you even been to Cleveland? and arent you from like Charlotte or something?
thats not even a city, thats a podunk town, like the Moose Jaw of America!
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Originally posted by Rhett Miller:
There's more to making a good city than good dive bars and music venues. Bottom line: Cleveland is an impoverished, second tier city with dopey people, and no beauty.
Originally posted by Lazer Guided Melodies:
Cleveland has got one of the best dive venues in the country in the Beachland Tavern (perhaps I'm biased b/c I saw a great Sonic Boom, Volta Sound, Warlocks show there three years ago), a great indie label in Elephant Stone Records, a great psych music scene (The Volta Sound, New Planet Trampoline, The Dreadful Yawns, 9 Volt Haunted House) and the areas of Coventry and Lakewood have some good bars and a decent college radio station at Cleveland State U.
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Rhett doesn't like Cleveland? Now I want to move to this city!
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I'm from upstate New York, with the emphasis on FROM. At least where I'm from, there is beautiful countryside, though that wouldn't be enough to make me move back there.
No, I've never been to Cleveland. I still haven't read, seen, or heard anything about Cleveland that would make it unique from Birmingham, Charlotte, Pittsburgh, Worcester, or Albany, all of which I've been to but see no reason to return to.
Originally posted by sonickteam2:
yeah have you even been to Cleveland? and arent you from like Charlotte or something?
thats not even a city, thats a podunk town, like the Moose Jaw of America!
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Originally posted by Rhett Miller:
I'm from upstate New York, with the emphasis on FROM.
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Let me get this straight, you are from Upstate NY, and think that CLEVELAND is economically depressed? What?
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Cleveland is #1 in poverty among big cities.
And yes, people are generally economically strapped where I grew up.
Other than visiting my mom, and hiking in the Adirondacks, there's not much reason to go to upstate NY either.
Originally posted by keithstg:
Originally posted by Rhett Miller:
I'm from upstate New York, with the emphasis on FROM.
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Let me get this straight, you are from Upstate NY, and think that CLEVELAND is economically depressed? What? [/QB][/QUOTE]
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Originally posted by keithstg:
Originally posted by Rhett Miller:
I'm from upstate New York, with the emphasis on FROM.
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Let me get this straight, you are from Upstate NY, and think that CLEVELAND is economically depressed? What? [/QB][/QUOTE]
Rhett has this permanent need to be different from the rest, he starts with a position (always opposed to what most people think just to be different) and he has to stick with it forever to show that he is different. He is not different at all, I actually think he is the most mainstream board member.
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You guys must be really bored.
My point is that
1.there are a lot of places in the world that I have not been to, and wish to go to.
2 There are other places I have been to, and wish to return to.
3 There are many other places I have been to, and have no desire to return to.
4 There are still other places that I have no desire to go to.
From the information I can gather, Cleveland is probably reminiscient of places that fell into category #3, and falls into #4.
And a music festival isn't enough to lure me someplace I have no desire to visit, when there are tons of other places I do desire visiting.
OK?
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#3 sounds like springfield, va
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Good, because I wouldn't want to live in a tourist destination anyway.
Originally posted by god's shoeshine:
#3 sounds like springfield, va
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great, we won't plan any music festivals that you won't go to anyway there.
frankly the shaker heights/coventry areas are prettier than most of the suburbs around here
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Originally posted by Barcelona:
He is not different at all, I actually think he is the most mainstream board member.
thats my impression of him. the type of person that would just blend in anywhere. humdrum
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Nothing wrong with being able to blend in.
Originally posted by sonickteam2:
Originally posted by Barcelona:
He is not different at all, I actually think he is the most mainstream board member.
thats my impression of him. the type of person that would just blend in anywhere. humdrum [/b]
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Originally posted by Rhett Miller:
4 There are still other places that I have no desire to go to.
OK?
Shouldn't #4 read: 4. There are places I have NEVER visited that I'm making assumptions about and have no desire to visit.
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I have heard and read enough about Cleveland to make me have minimal desire to visit.
Aren't there places that fall into that category for you? Or would you just like to merrily go to every town on earth?
Originally posted by Sugartastic Tee Silk:
Originally posted by Rhett Miller:
4 There are still other places that I have no desire to go to.
OK?
Shouldn't #4 read: 4. There are places I have NEVER visited that I'm making assumptions about and have no desire to visit. [/b]
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Originally posted by Rhett Miller:
Nothing wrong with being able to blend in.
being able to and not being able to help it, are two different things.
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Upstate NY?
I'm kidding! Why, yes, in fact, I'd merrily visit every town on Earth.
:roll:
Originally posted by Rhett Miller:
Aren't there places that fall into that category for you? Or would you just like to merrily go to every town on earth?
Originally posted by Sugartastic Tee Silk:
Originally posted by Rhett Miller:
4 There are still other places that I have no desire to go to.
OK?
Shouldn't #4 read: 4. There are places I have NEVER visited that I'm making assumptions about and have no desire to visit. [/b]
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