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=> GENERAL DISCUSSION => Topic started by: thirsty moore on August 28, 2007, 03:22:00 pm
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and I did in a park bathroom. <img src="http://www.londonticketshop.co.uk/images/george-michael-tickets.jpg" alt=" - " />
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at this moment, because of this thread, i'm very very relieved that dupek isn't posting on this board anymore.
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"hello, i'm your local anti-gay everything, and i loved that one scene from borat with the rodeo guy. yeah, me too. one man, one woman forever. thank you for your vote."
thank you mike rogers. my own private idaho.
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Movie theater anyone?
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I heard some bullshit about this dude in a Burger King bathroom. But that's neither here nor there . . . .
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jeezus - these days, tapping feet is a sign of wanting to get it on? love the "wide stance" explanation...
The officer wrote that he was on a plainclothes detail in the restroom because of citizen complaints and arrests for sexual activity there.
Karsnia wrote that when the person occupying the stall beside him left, Craig entered it and blocked the door with his rolling suitcase.
"My experience has shown that individuals engaging in lewd conduct use their bags to block the view from the front of their stall," the officer said in his report.
The senator then tapped his right foot, "a signal used by persons wishing to engage in lewd conduct," Karsnia wrote, and Craig ran his left hand several times underneath the partition dividing the stalls.
"The presence of others did not seem to deter Craig as he moved his right foot so that it touched the side of my left foot which was within my stall area," the officer's report said.
When the police interviewed him later, the senator said that "he has a wide stance when going to the bathroom" and that was why his foot may have touched the officer's, the report said.
linakge (http://www.cnn.com/2007/POLITICS/08/28/craig.arrest/index.html)
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Page Offices?
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Originally posted by sweetcell:
the senator said that "he has a wide stance when going to the bathroom" and that was why his foot may have touched the officer's, the report said.
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That and your guilty plea....
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And <img src="http://espn.go.com/media/nfl/2005/1107/photo/a_keathley_65.jpg" alt=" - " /> <img src="http://espn.go.com/media/nfl/2005/1107/photo/a_thomas_65.jpg" alt=" - " />
Since I'm posting old news (http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=2216124) today.
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Originally posted by sweetcell:
jeezus - these days, tapping feet is a sign of wanting to get it on? love the "wide stance" explanation...
The officer wrote that he was on a plainclothes detail in the restroom because of citizen complaints and arrests for sexual activity there.
Karsnia wrote that when the person occupying the stall beside him left, Craig entered it and blocked the door with his rolling suitcase.
"My experience has shown that individuals engaging in lewd conduct use their bags to block the view from the front of their stall," the officer said in his report.
The senator then tapped his right foot, "a signal used by persons wishing to engage in lewd conduct," Karsnia wrote, and Craig ran his left hand several times underneath the partition dividing the stalls.
"The presence of others did not seem to deter Craig as he moved his right foot so that it touched the side of my left foot which was within my stall area," the officer's report said.
When the police interviewed him later, the senator said that "he has a wide stance when going to the bathroom" and that was why his foot may have touched the officer's, the report said.
linakge (http://www.cnn.com/2007/POLITICS/08/28/craig.arrest/index.html)
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for some reason beyond my reasons to understand (the filth of the floor alone), public bathrooms and poofs go together like clinton and cigars.
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Originally posted by 6949:
And <img src="http://espn.go.com/media/nfl/2005/1107/photo/a_keathley_65.jpg" alt=" - " /> <img src="http://espn.go.com/media/nfl/2005/1107/photo/a_thomas_65.jpg" alt=" - " />
Since I'm posting old news (http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=2216124) today.
What happens in the ladies room stays in the ladies room....
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If all restrooms were co-ed and women were as slutty as men, we'd all be in this boat.
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Not mine, but a funny anagram nonetheless
SENATOR LARRY CRAIG = ARREST GAY CON LIAR
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Originally posted by Charlie Nakatestes,Japanese Golfer:
If all restrooms were co-ed and women were as slutty as men, we'd all be in this boat.
Just hang around some VIP rooms here in D.C. Things happen . . . :eek:
But then again, you have healthy, non-hair follicle violating, swinger suburban sex. No worries for you!
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I only posted this because no one else had. Pretty late on my end actually. I thought I would get taken to task for my lateness.
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What a cocksucker.
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I heard back in 1996 that he was gay. And that whole foot-tapping thing is old school gay cruising. Clearly he needs to get on Craigslist. No irony in the name there either.
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I think its more creepy that police are paid to "patrol" restrooms in plainclothes and stalk down these encounters on the internet as well.
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Can you imagine how shitty that job must be? Get home at night and your wife asks how your day was? "Shut the Hell Up, Bitch!"
I think its more creepy that police are paid to "patrol" restrooms in plainclothes
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Originally posted by Brandon Brendall, the thief:
I think its more creepy that police are paid to "patrol" restrooms in plainclothes and stalk down these encounters on the internet as well.
What would you rather they do? We're always lookig for better ideas as we've had similar situations of straight guys complaining of gay sexual encounters in the restrooms here at the University, and the police have to do something about it. Surprisingly, hanging a sign in the restroom that says "No Gay Sex in Here" is ineffective.
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I think they should go a bit further, and hand out citations for such things as missing the urinal, leaving a big pile of shit in the bowl and not flushing, and flooding the urinal by trying to flush big wads of toilet paper down it (this always seemed to happen at GMU).
Originally posted by vansmack:
Originally posted by Brandon Brendall, the thief:
I think its more creepy that police are paid to "patrol" restrooms in plainclothes and stalk down these encounters on the internet as well.
What would you rather they do? We're always lookig for better ideas as we've had similar situations of straight guys complaining of gay sexual encounters in the restrooms here at the University, and the police have to do something about it. Surprisingly, hanging a sign in the restroom that says "No Gay Sex in Here" is ineffective. [/b]
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Originally posted by vansmack:
What would you rather they do?
nothing, of course. this is yet another example of government interference in the lives of its citizens. get those law-enforcing meddlers out of our public spaces.
:roll:
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Yet it's OK to police the posting of images on a public forum?
I'm all for being flattered at flirtation or compliments from either sex (hey, if you got it, you've got it!), but unwarranted advances in public bathrooms are pretty gross, no matter who the perp*.
* Except for hot chicks.
Originally posted by sweetcell:
Originally posted by vansmack:
What would you rather they do?
nothing, of course. this is yet another example of government interference in the lives of its citizens. get those law-enforcing meddlers out of our public spaces.
:roll: [/b]
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You know when the cops do that prostitute sting gig when the female cops dress all slutty and start picking up johns? Why don't they arrest the female cops for soliciting prostitution?
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Originally posted by sweetcell:
Originally posted by vansmack:
What would you rather they do?
nothing, of course. this is yet another example of government interference in the lives of its citizens. get those law-enforcing meddlers out of our public spaces.
:roll: [/b]
Kidding or not, I think its our right as Americans to be able to use a public restroom that hasn't been soiled by lewd acts. Likewise, I think its our right to visit public parks that are free from perverse activities. Its extremely disrespectful and flat nasty. Rights are for "private" not "public" spaces.
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Whoa nellie, I never said sex and other illegal lewd acts in public restrooms should be condoned...but I still think its creepy that cops are paid to solicit these encounters on the internet, and then stake out in the restrooms waiting for them.
That said, I guess I don't know what I'd rather cops do.
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Sometimes when I'm having my morning constitional I like to sing while sat on the toilet...sometimes when I sing I tap my feet. Does that make me gay?
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Ugh, Tucker Carlson is a total fucking closet-case.
What's funny about assault?
He Admits to Beating Up A Gay Guy in Georgetown. (http://gawker.com/news/criminals/tucker-carlson-beats-up-gay-men-with-his-friends-294673.php?autoplay=true)
"I am the least anti-gay right winger you'll ever meet."
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You mean Tucker Carlson is a douchebag?
Is the sky also blue? :)
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Originally posted by Roadbike Mankie:
Sometimes when I'm having my morning constitional I like to sing while sat on the toilet...sometimes when I sing I tap my feet. Does that make me gay?
It depends on what you're singing.
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Originally posted by Roadbike Mankie:
Sometimes when I'm having my morning constitional I like to sing while sat on the toilet...sometimes when I sing I tap my feet. Does that make me gay?
So long as you're not singing:
1) Gloria Gaynor - "I Will Survive"
2) It's Raining Men
3) Anything by Cher aside of "I Got You, Babe"
If you're singing any of the above 3, then change your name to Tropicana Mankie, fruit boy. ;)
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Originally posted by ixkpd-bk:
Ugh, Tucker Carlson is a total fucking closet-case.
What's funny about assault?
He Admits to Beating Up A Gay Guy in Georgetown. (http://gawker.com/news/criminals/tucker-carlson-beats-up-gay-men-with-his-friends-294673.php?autoplay=true)
"I am the least anti-gay right winger you'll ever meet."
best comment:
Dear Tucker,
Just a quick note to remind you about a) Dancing with the Stars and b) your bowtie collection.
Sincerely,
Your Repressed Homosexuality
pure awesomeness.
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this keeps getting better: the white house is "disappointed", craig "hasn't decided if he'll seek re-election after his term is up" next year, and he's the victim of "a witch-hunt" according to wife:
Senator losing support in Idaho, Washington
BOISE, Idaho (CNN) -- Sen. Larry Craig, who was arrested for allegedly soliciting sex in a public restroom, is losing support among conservatives in his home state of Idaho, and the White House also is expressing disappointment with the situation.
"We're disappointed in what's going on. It's a matter for the senator and the Senate Republican leadership to address," deputy White House press secretary Scott Stanzel said.
"We hope that it will be resolved quickly, as that would be in the best interests of the Senate and the people of Idaho," Stanzel said.
State GOP officials in Idaho are standing by Craig in their public comments, but some privately say that the senator is ruined.
One conservative leader, though, was unequivocal:
"I believe he should resign because I believe character is an extremely important qualification for public service," said Bryan Fischer of the Idaho Values Alliance. "And I believe the senator, by his own admission, has acknowledged that he has fallen short of the standard that we should expect from public servants."
Likewise, the head of a conservative advocacy group in Washington had strong words for Craig:
"Senator Craig admittedly engaged in illegal activity that brings serious disrepute to the public office he holds," Judicial Watch President Tom Fitton said Wednesday. "He should seriously consider resigning."
Craig's term ends next year; the 62-year-old lawmaker has not announced whether he will seek re-election.
In Washington, Republican colleagues generally are being cautious in their statements, taking a wait and see approach.
However, Senate GOP leaders called Tuesday for an Ethics Committee investigation of the Idaho Republican's June arrest at the Minneapolis-St. Paul International Airport in Minnesota.
"He's disappointed the American people," former Massachusetts Gov. Mitt Romney, for whose presidential campaign Craig was a Senate liaison, told CNBC on Tuesday night. Craig has stepped down from his role in the campaign.
Sen. John McCain of Arizona, another Republican candidate for president, called the case "disgraceful" during a Tuesday appearance on NBC's "Tonight Show With Jay Leno," according to The Associated Press.
While campaigning in Iowa, Republican presidential candidate Mike Huckabee said Wednesday that Craig has "a lot of splainin' to do."
"It's certainly not a good thing," said Huckabee, a former Arkansas governor. "And I think the guilty plea is what makes it a little bit dicey for him. If he believed it was an innocent misunderstanding, then I think most Americans would say that you fight it, you don't just roll over and plead guilty."
Craig on Tuesday said he had "overreacted and made a poor decision" in pleading guilty to disorderly conduct after his arrest. Watch what regular folks have to say about Craig »
In his first public statement on the arrest, the lawmaker said he did nothing "inappropriate."
"Let me be clear: I am not gay and never have been," said Craig, who has aligned himself with conservative groups who oppose gay rights.
With his wife, Suzanne, by his side, Craig said he is the victim of a "witch hunt" conducted by the Idaho Statesman newspaper.
"In pleading guilty, I overreacted in Minneapolis because of the stress of the Idaho Statesman's investigation and the rumors it has fueled around Idaho," he said. "Again, that overreaction was a mistake, and I apologize for my misjudgment."
continued (http://www.cnn.com/2007/POLITICS/08/29/craig.arrest/index.html)
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Originally posted by Brandon Brendall, the thief:
Whoa nellie, I never said sex and other illegal lewd acts in public restrooms should be condoned...but I still think its creepy that cops are paid to solicit these encounters on the internet, and then stake out in the restrooms waiting for them.
That said, I guess I don't know what I'd rather cops do.
I know - I just wanted to rant.
I think they should make a movie about a cop that infiltrates the sordid world of mensroom /public park solicitation. Nic Cage could star. Or make it a Morgan Freeman vehicle where he teams up with Officer Colin Farell to rescue his son from his life as a cheap hustler working the LAX airport.
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Seems to me that Nic Cage wouldn't get much business. I'll bet Colin Farrell would though.
Originally posted by Mobius:
Originally posted by Brandon Brendall, the thief:
Whoa nellie, I never said sex and other illegal lewd acts in public restrooms should be condoned...but I still think its creepy that cops are paid to solicit these encounters on the internet, and then stake out in the restrooms waiting for them.
That said, I guess I don't know what I'd rather cops do.
I know - I just wanted to rant.
I think they should make a movie about a cop that infiltrates the sordid world of mensroom /public park solicitation. Nic Cage could star. Or make it a Morgan Freeman vehicle where he teams up with Officer Colin Farell to rescue his son from his life as a cheap hustler working the LAX airport. [/b]
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Interesting article from the Idaho Statesman:
http://www.idahostatesman.com/1264/story/143801.html (http://www.idahostatesman.com/1264/story/143801.html)
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I am trying to remember what book/comic it was (I think the Fabulous Furry Freak Brothers) where the cop had to sit in the stall all day trying to solicit guys. Gads, I read it a while back, ugh, it will come to me.
best line as pointed out by Dana Milbank from Craig's news conference:
From the opening line of his statement yesterday, Sen. Larry Craig was in trouble. "Thank you all very much for coming out today," he began.
"Coming out" was perhaps not the best phrase for a guy who had pleaded guilty to some rather un-senatorial conduct in an airport men's room -- and now stands accused in his home-state paper of a homosexual encounter in Union Station.
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You think Larry Craig and Barney Frank have ever "reached across party lines" in the Congressional men's room?
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yeah. . you all found another hypocrite! huzzah! perhaps everyone can answer me this question- how does this impact his ability to serve in congress? i don't see him stuffing $40,000 dollars in his congressional office freezer, or threatening another member of congress when questioned about a pet project in his district, or any other member of congress under investigation for using their office for illegal gain. as karen hanretty wrote in today's "the hill"-
"But Iâ??m not as troubled by his story as I am by other, much greater, allegations of public mistrust. Namely, Alaskaâ??s Sen. Ted Stevens (R), the four Republican members of congress in California who remain under federal investigation and others (my goodness, I canâ??t keep track of all the names these days) who are currently under federal investigation for misusing the power of public office."
where are all the people demanding the resignations of these members of congress (in both parties), who are doing far more damage to this country than one man's dalliances in an airport bathroom.
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Originally posted by Venerable Bede:
yeah. . you all found another hypocrite! huzzah! perhaps everyone can answer me this question- how does this impact his ability to serve in congress? i don't see him stuffing $40,000 dollars in his congressional office freezer, or threatening another member of congress when questioned about a pet project in his district, or any other member of congress under investigation for using their office for illegal gain. as karen hanretty wrote in today's "the hill"-
"But Iâ??m not as troubled by his story as I am by other, much greater, allegations of public mistrust. Namely, Alaskaâ??s Sen. Ted Stevens (R), the four Republican members of congress in California who remain under federal investigation and others (my goodness, I canâ??t keep track of all the names these days) who are currently under federal investigation for misusing the power of public office."
where are all the people demanding the resignations of these members of congress (in both parties), who are doing far more damage to this country than one man's dalliances in an airport bathroom.
People with such secrets often are very bribable and often overcompensate to try to not look like their secret life. Those two can be very dangerous.
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The only thing people are doing in this thread is laughing at his staunch denial of his dalliances in the airport bathroom.
Originally posted by Venerable Bede:
where are all the people demanding the resignations of these members of congress (in both parties), who are doing far more damage to this country than one man's dalliances in an airport bathroom.
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Originally posted by econo:
The only thing people are doing in this thread is laughing at his staunch denial of his dalliances in the airport bathroom.
True - I haven't even started attacking his record in Congress yet. How he voted for the 1996 Defense of Marriage Act and, in 2006, voted to cut off debate on a proposed constitutional amendment banning gay marriage. He also voted against a 1996 bill prohibiting employment discrimination based on sexual orientation, which failed by one vote in the Senate.
But you're right, I have stuck mostly with pointing out how absurd his rebuttal has been.
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Bingo. I couldn't care less about what he does behind the closed stall doors; I agree Bede that his remains just as capable of doing his job now and he did 10 days ago when I didn't give two shits about him.
But I do find it hysterical that a political homophobe is cruising airport bathrooms.
Originally posted by vansmack:
Originally posted by econo:
The only thing people are doing in this thread is laughing at his staunch denial of his dalliances in the airport bathroom.
True - I haven't even started attacking his record in Congress yet. How he voted for the 1996 Defense of Marriage Act and, in 2006, voted to cut off debate on a proposed constitutional amendment banning gay marriage. He also voted against a 1996 bill prohibiting employment discrimination based on sexual orientation, which failed by one vote in the Senate.
But you're right, I have stuck mostly with pointing out how absurd his rebuttal has been. [/b]
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Originally posted by Venerable Bede:
! perhaps everyone can answer me this question- how does this impact his ability to serve in congress? .
BECAUSE HE'S A LIAR!!! He admitted to blowing a guy when he didn't. The filthy lying bastard!!!!
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Originally posted by Christine Moritz:
Interesting article from the Idaho Statesman:
http://www.idahostatesman.com/1264/story/143801.html (http://www.idahostatesman.com/1264/story/143801.html)
The most serious finding by the Statesman was the report by a professional man with close ties to Republican officials. The 40-year-old man reported having oral sex with Craig at Washington's Union Station, probably in 2004. The Statesman also spoke with a man who said Craig made a sexual advance toward him at the University of Idaho in 1967 and a man who said Craig "cruised" him for sex in 1994 at the REI store in Boise. The Statesman also explored dozens of allegations that proved untrue, unclear or unverifiable.
Well, be careful with the fooot-tapping in Union Station AT LEAST.
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Originally posted by miss pretentious:
Well, be careful with the fooot-tapping in Union Station AT LEAST.
I have it on good authority that foot tapping is old school gay cruising. It's all about online hookups now.
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Originally posted by vansmack:
I have it on good authority that foot tapping is old school gay cruising. It's all about online hookups now. [/b]
From http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20070829/ap_on_re_us/craig_gay_reaction (http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20070829/ap_on_re_us/craig_gay_reaction) :
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"My sense is that most of the people who engage in bathroom sex are living closeted lives," Foreman [Matt Foreman, executive director of the National Gay and Lesbian Task Force] said. "If you're open, you can hook up on line, in a bar or even through your church."
William Leap, an anthropology professor at American University, said his research indicated that up to half of those who engage in male bathroom sex would consider themselves heterosexual.
"You've got several groups of folks," he said. "Happily married men with children who enjoy having sex with men every so often, and also self-identified gay men who enjoy the thrill of anonymous sex."
[. . .]
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Originally posted by Venerable Bede:
yeah. . you all found another hypocrite! huzzah! perhaps everyone can answer me this question- how does this impact his ability to serve in congress?
Well, if the part about him pulling out his U.S. Senate card on the officer and saying, "What do you think of that?" is true...it makes one wonder if he's done that before to try to get out of hot water.
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What would you guys consider to be worse? Crusing for gay sex in an airport bathroom, or throwing a tantrum and physically assulting a baggage employee (http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,295052,00.html) because your flight is delayed?
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Is the assaulting offender lobbying hard for strict anti-assaulting laws in an attempt to cover up his/her own hidden love of assaulting?
Originally posted by Brandon Brendall, the thief:
What would you guys consider to be worse? Crusing for gay sex in an airport bathroom, or throwing a tantrum and physically assulting a baggage employee (http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,295052,00.html) because your flight is delayed?
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I'm not sure what his stance on gay marriage has to do with anything.
Personally, I'm in favor of government recognition of gay marriage, and for churches to have the freedom to be for or against it.
However, I can understand the opinion of those who say that marriage is and should remain a heterosexual institution.
What does gay marriage have to do with gay sex in an airport bathroom?
Originally posted by vansmack:
Originally posted by econo:
The only thing people are doing in this thread is laughing at his staunch denial of his dalliances in the airport bathroom.
True - I haven't even started attacking his record in Congress yet. How he voted for the 1996 Defense of Marriage Act and, in 2006, voted to cut off debate on a proposed constitutional amendment banning gay marriage. He also voted against a 1996 bill prohibiting employment discrimination based on sexual orientation, which failed by one vote in the Senate.
But you're right, I have stuck mostly with pointing out how absurd his rebuttal has been. [/b]
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So you read page one of this thread too? How observant! ;)
Originally posted by vansmack:
Originally posted by miss pretentious:
Well, be careful with the fooot-tapping in Union Station AT LEAST.
I have it on good authority that foot tapping is old school gay cruising. It's all about online hookups now. [/b]
Originally posted by bearman:
I heard back in 1996 that he was gay. And that whole foot-tapping thing is old school gay cruising. Clearly he needs to get on Craigslist. No irony in the name there either.
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No but he does represent the party that touts itself as being more pro-woman AND pro-union worker, just as the gay sex guy represents the party that touts itself as being more pro-morals. But I guess battering female union workers is less exciting than soliciting gay sex.
Originally posted by nkotb:
Is the assaulting offender lobbying hard for strict anti-assaulting laws in an attempt to cover up his/her own hidden love of assaulting?
Originally posted by Brandon Brendall, the thief:
What would you guys consider to be worse? Crusing for gay sex in an airport bathroom, or throwing a tantrum and physically assulting a baggage employee (http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,295052,00.html) because your flight is delayed?
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Originally posted by Charlie Nakatestes,Japanese Golfer:
I'm not sure what his stance on gay marriage has to do with anything.
Personally, I'm in favor of government recognition of gay marriage, and for churches to have the freedom to be for or against it.
However, I can understand the opinion of those who say that marriage is and should remain a heterosexual institution.
What does gay marriage have to do with gay sex in an airport bathroom?
seriously? you see no hypocricy in engaging in gay sex on the one hand, and having an anti-gay track record? none?
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I am totally cool with gay people and I do not oppose government recognition of gay marriage...but as for this guy being against them, I understand your point...wouldn't gay marriage take the excitement out of his gay bathroom encounters?
Originally posted by Charlie Nakatestes,Japanese Golfer:
I'm not sure what his stance on gay marriage has to do with anything.
Personally, I'm in favor of government recognition of gay marriage, and for churches to have the freedom to be for or against it.
However, I can understand the opinion of those who say that marriage is and should remain a heterosexual institution.
What does gay marriage have to do with gay sex in an airport bathroom?
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Originally posted by Brandon Brendall, the thief:
I am totally cool with gay people...
Are alot of your best friends black, too?
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Admittedly, I didn't look at your link and assumed it was about Cynthia McKinney. You do bring up a valid point.
For the record, I do think that this shouldn't be a big deal because of his political affiliation, and shouldn't be taken as anything other than a repressed, self-loathing gay man being busted for hypocritical behavior. He's certainly not lied any more or less than most other politicians.
Originally posted by Brandon Brendall, the thief:
No but he does represent the party that touts itself as being more pro-woman AND pro-union worker, just as the gay sex guy represents the party that touts itself as being more pro-morals. But I guess battering female union workers is less exciting than soliciting gay sex.
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I bet Hillary Clinton and tons of other Democrats who are against gay marriage wouldn't refer to themselves as "anti-gay".
Originally posted by sweetcell:
Originally posted by Charlie Nakatestes,Japanese Golfer:
I'm not sure what his stance on gay marriage has to do with anything.
Personally, I'm in favor of government recognition of gay marriage, and for churches to have the freedom to be for or against it.
However, I can understand the opinion of those who say that marriage is and should remain a heterosexual institution.
What does gay marriage have to do with gay sex in an airport bathroom?
seriously? you see no hypocricy in engaging in gay sex on the one hand, and having an anti-gay track record? none? [/b]
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Originally posted by Charlie Nakatestes,Japanese Golfer:
I bet Hillary Clinton and tons of other Democrats who are against gay marriage wouldn't refer to themselves as "anti-gay".
maybe, i've never asked or read anything one way or another.
but unlike craig, hillary doesn't court and align herself with right-wing religious conservatives who are openly anti-gay. and then go old-school cruising for gay sex in public restrooms.
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So it's acceptable to be against gay marriage, so long as you're not cruising restrooms for gay sex?
Originally posted by sweetcell:
Originally posted by Charlie Nakatestes,Japanese Golfer:
I bet Hillary Clinton and tons of other Democrats who are against gay marriage wouldn't refer to themselves as "anti-gay".
maybe, i've never asked or read anything one way or another.
but unlike craig, hillary doesn't court and align herself with right-wing religious conservatives who are openly anti-gay. and then go old-school cruising for gay sex in public restrooms. [/b]
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from a logical point of view, i'd say that would be a good start. someone who engages in gay sex yet denies gays certain rights doesn't make sense to me. but being anti-gay marriage is stupid in the first place, in my left-wingnut opinion (and i agree that churches should have the right to not perform gay marriages, but the state shouldn't block the possibility).
whatever. you don't see any hypocracy here, whereas it's blatant to me. alternately, we could engage in the "do gays have a right to marry" debate... but i'd really rather not.
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What's hypocracy?
Is it anything like hypocrisy?
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Originally posted by Charlie Nakatestes,Japanese Golfer:
However, I can understand the opinion of those who say that marriage is and should remain a heterosexual institution.
What does gay marriage have to do with gay sex in an airport bathroom?
I would agree with the first part of your post - John Edwards is a good example of someone who is a supporter of most gay rights, but does not support gay marriage. But that's not what we're talking about here.
The difference, of course, is that John Edwards is not gay, and I have yet to meet a gay person who does not think that gays should be allowed to marry.
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Originally posted by Brandon Brendall, the thief:
What would you guys consider to be worse? Crusing for gay sex in an airport bathroom, or throwing a tantrum and physically assulting a baggage employee (http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,295052,00.html) because your flight is delayed?
At least the latter admitted his actions...
But to draw a parallel is a bit of a stretch.
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im now typing up something for a partner on a case he got suckered into (no pun intended). and the guy he's representing masturbated in his car while driving a 19-year old chick to the train station.
cant wait to read what her statement says. cant believe im having a discussion with the partner about masturbation in public/private. so im now doing research for him on this and its proving to be quite interesting.
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I talk about masturbation with the partner all the time. Sometimes we even do it together.
Originally posted by xneverwherex:
im now typing up something for a partner on a case he got suckered into (no pun intended). and the guy he's representing masturbated in his car while driving a 19-year old chick to the train station.
cant wait to read what her statement says. cant believe im having a discussion with the partner about masturbation in public/private. so im now doing research for him on this and its proving to be quite interesting.
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Isn't the Bush Administration something of a hypocracy? :D
Originally posted by ggwâ?¢:
What's hypocracy?
Is it anything like hypocrisy?
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thank you folks . . . finally a story about gayness, that all these hot guys in here can't stop talking about. like doctor smith and the robot having butt sex.
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Exactly. Couldn't have put it better myself.
Originally posted by walkonby:
thank you folks . . . finally a story about gayness, that all these hot guys in here can't stop talking about. like doctor smith and the robot having butt sex.
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The Governor of Idaho is named C.L. "Butch" Otter.
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Man, I remember almost getting beaten up by a butch otter at Lilith Fair one year.
Originally posted by Charlie Nakatestes,Japanese Golfer:
The Governor of Idaho is named C.L. "Butch" Otter.
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Post of the week front-runner . . . .
Originally posted by nkotb:
Man, I remember almost getting beaten up by a butch otter at Lilith Fair one year.
Originally posted by Charlie Nakatestes,Japanese Golfer:
The Governor of Idaho is named C.L. "Butch" Otter.
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Originally posted by walkonby:
thank you folks . . . finally a story about gayness, that all these hot guys in here can't stop talking about.
what hot guys? i take it you haven't met any of us in person...
Originally posted by nkotb:
Isn't the Bush Administration something of a hypocracy? :D
dang, beat me to it.
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Originally posted by nkotb:
Isn't the Bush Administration something of a hypocracy? :D
You beat me to it.
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Originally posted by sweetcell:
Originally posted by nkotb:
Isn't the Bush Administration something of a hypocracy? :D
dang, beat me to it. [/b]
I gotta learn to read to the bottom of a thread before posting :p
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John Waters is pretty much against gay marriage.
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I think there are a number of gay people who are personally against gay marriage, but if in a position of power, would they vote to deny other gays the privilege?
Originally posted by Sir HC:
John Waters is pretty much against gay marriage.
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Originally posted by Charlie Nakatestes,Japanese Golfer:
I'm not sure what his stance on gay marriage has to do with anything.
What does gay marriage have to do with gay sex in an airport bathroom?
Originally posted by Charlie Nakatestes,Japanese Golfer:
I think there are a number of gay people who are personally against gay marriage, but if in a position of power, would they vote to deny other gays the privilege?
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Is that you as a kid?
Originally posted by vansmack:
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Originally posted by vansmack:
Originally posted by Charlie Nakatestes,Japanese Golfer:
[qb] The difference, of course, is that John Edwards is not gay, [/b]
...are you sure?
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I'm not going to pretend that I have a job of any importance. But it must really suck to earn a Master's Degree, and then have your job requirements be to entrap gay guys in toilet stalls and be in charge of cart enforcement at the airport.
MINNEAPOLIS, Minnesota (AP) -- Sgt. Dave Karsnia shielded the men he arrested in the airport bathroom from embarrassment.
Embattled Sen. Larry Craig denies wrongdoing but is under increasing pressure to resign.
After he flashed a badge, he would point silently to the exit.
When one man said his wife was waiting at a gate, Karsnia called for a citation book to spare the man a trip to the airport police station.
And when his bathroom stings netted a U.S. senator from Idaho, he even promised him, "I don't call media."
That promise -- which Karsnia seems to have kept -- didn't do Sen. Larry Craig much good. Watch how the arrest could end Craig's political career »
Craig's arrest was surely the biggest of Karsnia's career, but it was only one of more than a dozen he made in the Minneapolis airport's restrooms this summer.
Just 29, his record has been that of a rising young officer. He joined the Minneapolis Airport Police in 2000 as a community services officer, just out of college. Three years later, he was named the department's Officer of the Year, and in 2005 he was promoted to sergeant. Last year, he finished his master's degree.
The last time Karsnia was in the media spotlight, it was because of his efforts to get speeding electric carts carrying passengers and luggage at the airport to slow down. The issue came to light last year when a young boy was run over and dragged by a cart and suffered a second-degree carpet burn.
Karsnia was in charge of cart enforcement at the time. That got him on ABC's "Good Morning America" earlier this year.
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dan savage on the sen. craig situation: "part of the thrill of public sex is the delicious danger, the exquisite risk, the trouble you know you'll get into if you're caught. So it's hard to have much sympathy when someone who is aroused by the risk of discovery is discovered." Savage Love (http://www.villagevoice.com/people/0736,savage,77710,24.html) (see second letter - yes, he's being sarcastic about not being gay).
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Thanks for clarifying that Dan was being sarcastic. Never would have figured that out on my own.
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every think that not everything is about you, rhett?
being the suburban sex-fiend that you are, i'm sure you're on a first name basis with dan savage and probably copy-edit his work, but i was going with assumption that not everyone is. obviously, i forgot to assume that you'd lack the ability to do the same. my bad! :)
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Nah, I just don't think my fellow boardies are as stupid as you take them to be, and don't need obvious things (seems like obvious sarcasm to me, even if you're not a Savage regular) explained to them, as you have a habit of doing. :) [/b][/quote]
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Originally posted by Charlie Nakatestes,Japanese Golfer:
Nah, I just don't think my fellow boardies are as stupid as you take them to be, and don't need obvious things (seems like obvious sarcasm to me, even if you're not a Savage regular) explained to them, as you have a habit of doing. :p
do you seriously believe that? would be sad, as that's certainly not my intention (despite certain sum41-respecting idiots who do, in fact, deserve to be considered stupid :p ). if i over-communicate, it's out of frustration/as a reaction to posts that are written in code and require googling to figure out. sometimes a little extra 'splaining is appreciated. i could see someone unfamiliar with savage being confused by his no-i'm-not-gay shtick. apologies for mis-calling that one.
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Will you two get an airport men's room? :D
Originally posted by sweetcell:
Originally posted by Charlie Nakatestes,Japanese Golfer:
Nah, I just don't think my fellow boardies are as stupid as you take them to be, and don't need obvious things (seems like obvious sarcasm to me, even if you're not a Savage regular) explained to them, as you have a habit of doing. :p
do you seriously believe that? would be sad, as that's certainly not my intention (despite certain sum41-respecting idiots who do, in fact, deserve to be considered stupid :p ). if i over-communicate, it's out of frustration/as a reaction to posts that are written in code and require googling to figure out. sometimes a little extra 'splaining is appreciated. i could see someone unfamiliar with savage being confused by his no-i'm-not-gay shtick. apologies for mis-calling that one. [/b]