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=> GENERAL DISCUSSION => Topic started by: Charlie Nakatestes, Japanese Golfer on May 23, 2007, 03:45:00 pm
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me, even though its been a shit season and I have seriously entertained the notion of quitting......I quit 24 instead
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Psyched may not be the right word, but I'm excited.
I wish they'd end the thing with 2 24 episode seasons instead of 3 16 episode seasons. That seems kind of lame.
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I am super psyched. I don't think the season has been shit, but I definitely don't think it's been up to par. I'm really praying that having an end date in sight means they'll tighten their focus.
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well im so far behind in Lost, but I'll probably catch up on the rest of the season this weekend. Cant wait.
Im very bummed that Veronica Mars was cancelled. What a huge disappointment! :(
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i actually think this season has been really good. much better than last season. if you haven't enjoyed it, why? i think that ben and juliet are great characters and make things a lot more interesting. even charlie has become an interesting, dynamic character. and they have offered up some explanations, at least enough to keep people happy, i think. i remember saying this on here the last time there was a "lost" thread, but not knowing may be frustrating but it's what keeps you coming back. season 2 of "twin peaks," etc etc.
"24," on the other hand was just awful. i'm being generous when i give this latest season a D+.
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I think the season has picked up steam as the Spring has rolled by. The Fall episodes were somewhat lackluster.
Originally posted by nkotb:
I am super psyched. I don't think the season has been shit, but I definitely don't think it's been up to par. I'm really praying that having an end date in sight means they'll tighten their focus.
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Originally posted by Charlie Nakatestes,Japanese Golfer:
I think the season has picked up steam as the Spring has rolled by. The Fall episodes were somewhat lackluster.
I agree.
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there were a bunch of episodes that did nothing for esp the fall episodes - the hurley back story, the buried alive episode (not bad tv but very little to do with the overall plot)...its gotten better the last few weeks although I thought last week was a little weak as well
my biggest problem (and I've said this before) is that if Lost was limted to 2 or 3 seasons it could have gone down as some of the best TV ever.....but it was a money aker so it was dragged out to 6 seasons
Originally posted by BookerT:
i actually think this season has been really good. much better than last season. if you haven't enjoyed it, why?
"24," on the other hand was just awful. i'm being generous when i give this latest season a D+.
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Really? Why? I thought it was great how the whole episode they lead us to believe Charlie was going to die, and then...he didn't. Though he probably still will.
I don't like it that they kill off so many characters. One or two would have been great for shock value, but now it's just sort of sad to see these characters you've gotten attached to get killed off (Ana Lucia, Ecko, Locke? Charlie?)
Originally posted by brennser:
[its gotten better the last few weeks although I thought last week was a little weak as well
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Well, Locke definitely got shot. But I'm not buying that he's dead quite yet. The dude was a paraplegic that can walk on the island. A little old gunshot wound ain't nothing ;)
Originally posted by Charlie Nakatestes,Japanese Golfer:
Really? Why? I thought it was great how the whole episode they lead us to believe Charlie was going to die, and then...he didn't. Though he probably still will.
I don't like it that they kill off so many characters. One or two would have been great for shock value, but now it's just sort of sad to see these characters you've gotten attached to get killed off (Ana Lucia, Ecko, Locke? Charlie?)
Originally posted by brennser:
[its gotten better the last few weeks although I thought last week was a little weak as well [/b]
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what he said - Locke ain't dead
Originally posted by nkotb:
Well, Locke definitely got shot. But I'm not buying that he's dead quite yet. The dude was a paraplegic that can walk on the island. A little old gunshot wound ain't nothing ;)
Originally posted by Charlie Nakatestes,Japanese Golfer:
Really? Why? I thought it was great how the whole episode they lead us to believe Charlie was going to die, and then...he didn't. Though he probably still will.
I don't like it that they kill off so many characters. One or two would have been great for shock value, but now it's just sort of sad to see these characters you've gotten attached to get killed off (Ana Lucia, Ecko, Locke? Charlie?)
Originally posted by brennser:
[its gotten better the last few weeks although I thought last week was a little weak as well [/b]
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I am looking forward to tonight's episode but also expecting to be let down a bit by what the episodes tease me with, and then fail to answer.
I agree that the spring season has been an improvement over the fall season.
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entourage is where its at!
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so what did everyone think????
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my fiancee is totally devastated....
and i guess, it just got weirder. i now have no idea whether we've been watching the past or the present or the future.
i dont know whether me being very anxious for it to be over (so i can have some answers) makes the show great or boring. :)
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and now we have to wait 8 months :(
I think the biggest question is whether the flash forward is real or a vision by someone else seeing the future, maybe Locke? So many questions, I wish I never started watching.
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This was the moment I quit Lost. In the fall when Kate and Sawyer were held hostage in cages. They had been in those cages a few days. Then they decide to escape and Kate looks up and sees she can climb out the top very easily.
It took that long to figure out you can climb to freedom? The others didn't think to build cages that svelt young hotties couldn't just easily climb? I haven't seen it since then and I haven't missed it.
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I wish I could get into these type of shows. I can't make a point of watching anything on a regular basis apart from Coronation Street, which I can't even get over here.
I tried, I really did...
24 sucked, how many times in a single hour can Sutherland get pissed off for crying out loud?
The Office (US)didn't do it for me.
Reality shows are the work of satan.
I didn't even give Lost a shot, it just sounded like a modern day version of Gilligans Island meets Gullivers Travels.
I like the CSI shows because it's a different story every week, so if you miss an episode you're not lost (no pun intended). They're a bit far-feched though, and we always get a laugh out of 'H' in the Miami one, with uber-cool hands on hips stance whilst stating the bleeding obvious. "H, he was pushed off the 18th floor balcony"....(hands on hips, puts on sunglases and looks to right slightly) "What we have here ladies and gentlemen, is a fall guy"
House is pretty good, but again, it's a different medical condition every week so you don't need to set your Tivo (if you even have one) to keep up with the storyline.
Then what's the FBI profilers one? That would be good if they would fire the whole cast and replace them with actors.
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I quit 24 as well, but I still like Lost. I don't love it as much as I used to, but still like it.
I was pissed off that I didn't figure out it was the future/present until kate got out of the car. So, who do you think died? My guess is Locke since Sawyer and Kate were probably together.
Also, did anyone notice all the maps on the floor in Jack's room? Was he trying to find the island?
I wish they would've just killed Ben last night. He is scary.
It would be better knowing that next year was the last. I really don't see this show keeping my interest past 4 seasons. But, I enjoyed the 3rd one, and for some reason, was really sad to see Charlie go last night. (even though I found him terribly annoying beforehand)
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The show takes place in 2004. My wife said the type of cellphone that Jack was using in the "flashbacks" wasn't around in 2004. Anybody else agree/disagree? That was one of the pointers that it was actually the future.
Sad to see Charlie go. I was hoping the two women would give him one final threesome, but no go. Hell, he didn't even get to do more than kiss Claire. Poor little hobbit boy.
I was ready to quit the show if they really did kill Jin, Bernard, and Sayid.
I don't think Kate ends up with either Jack or Sawyer. I think the dead guy in the future is Sawyer, not Locke. Just a hunch.
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I was thinking Michael was in the casket. He's one of the few characters on the show that no one would give two shits about if he died. Everyone else had friends/family/etc.; he's the one person that no one on the island had any love for, especially after he killed two of them and betrayed the rest. Just my two cents...
Originally posted by Charlie Nakatestes,Japanese Golfer:
I don't think Kate ends up with either Jack or Sawyer. I think the dead guy in the future is Sawyer, not Locke. Just a hunch.
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But he might have friends back home???
Although the fact that the funeral was in an African-American community might offer credence to your argument.
I'm sure there are all kinds of theories on the Lost message boards, which I take a look at no more than once a month or so, I swear.
It was odd that Jack had a black beard in the flash-forward, though in the present it appears as if his beard is going majorly gray. Bad job by the makeup/costume people, or any meaning?
Originally posted by nkotb:
I was thinking Michael was in the casket. He's one of the few characters on the show that no one would give two shits about if he died. Everyone else had friends/family/etc.; he's the one person that no one on the island had any love for, especially after he killed two of them and betrayed the rest. Just my two cents...
Originally posted by Charlie Nakatestes,Japanese Golfer:
I don't think Kate ends up with either Jack or Sawyer. I think the dead guy in the future is Sawyer, not Locke. Just a hunch.
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yeah, we noticed that too and thoguht he was trying to get back and were sad about CHarlie even though we've been hoping for his death for a while
Originally posted by K8teebug:
Also, did anyone notice all the maps on the floor in Jack's room? Was he trying to find the island?
But, I enjoyed the 3rd one, and for some reason, was really sad to see Charlie go last night. (even though I found him terribly annoying beforehand)
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we thought that too
ok, I thought last nights episode was pretty f'ed up in a good kind of way - I'm not sure how I feel about knowing now that at least some of them get off the island but I guess we have to find out how/why?
Also, if its not Pennys ship who's ship is it? Was Ben right when he said there were people trying to destroy the island?
Whats up with Walt? Is he alive or dead?
What exactly did Kate say at the end? "I have to get back to him" or "He'll be waiting" - is there any possibility she's referring to a son given all the hints about her possibly being pregnant?
The piece where Rousseau meets her daighter for the first time in 16 years, gazes deeply into her eyes and then says "Will you help me tie him up" was hilarious!!
The show takes place in 2004. My wife said the type of cellphone that Jack was using in the "flashbacks" wasn't around in 2004. Anybody else agree/disagree?
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I sort of thought that it may be Ben or the dark haired guy that convinced Juliette to go to the island in the coffin. It seems that Jack really wanted to get back to the island, my guess is one of (the only?) person that knows how to get to the island died. With no hope of being able to get back Jack decided to off himself.
I cant see him being so broken up over anyone else (not that he was in a great state, but clearly whomever died pushed him over the edge).
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What do you make of him referencing his father in the flash-forward? Jack clearly said to the new doctor that he should call his father and see who was drunker?
That, coupled with the fact that Jack said he's sick of all the lies when talking with Kate have me thinking all types of conspiracy theories. What if, thanks to this "magical box" that can grant you anything you want, all of the survivors have their lives turned back the way they want? Maybe they're rescued, but have to keep all of the secrets of the island and everything that happened to themselves.
Might make sense that Kate doesn't seem to be on the run any longer. And maybe that's what unhinges Jack; as a man of science, having that burden of knowing something but not being able to even open up about it sets him over the edge?
By the way, not only am I horribly addicted to Lost, I spent an hour after the show and my entire hour run this morning thinking the entire thing over. I am a geek.
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The consensus on the message boards so far is that it was Ben's funeral.
Johnathan Benstraum or something.
Clearly, I am not busy at work today.
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heres what one board has for the obit
people also seem to be fixating on Jeremy Bentham which would tie in nicely with the philosopher angle
LOS ANGELES
Man found dead in
downtown loft
The body of Jeremy? ..ntham of
New York was found shortly after 4
a.m. in the ... of Grand
Avenue.
Ted Honderich?, a doorman? at The
Tower .... Complex heard loud
noises ... from ..ntham's loft
Concerned for the? man's? safety, he
alerted? the police? who? uncovered the
body hanging from a beam in the
room?.
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Also, my guess for the person Kate needed to get back to was Sawyer.
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Originally posted by Charlie Nakatestes,Japanese Golfer:
The show takes place in 2004. My wife said the type of cellphone that Jack was using in the "flashbacks" wasn't around in 2004. Anybody else agree/disagree?
noticed that too
the beard i bet is totally on purpose
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Well I don't have any original thoughts on anything, because I went on the Lost message board this morning.
Maybe Jack was delusional regarding his father because of the drugs?
Welcome to the geek club. I went to bed last night at 11:15, but didn't fall asleep until 1, because I was thinking about it. Or maybe the four pieces of pizza and coke sitting in my stomach kept me away. And my wife woke up for 40 minutes in the morning hours thinking about it. Or maybe it was the baby.
One far flung idea that I read was that they came back in time BEFORE the crash. Sort of a time travel thing. Would explain Jack's dark beard, but wouldn't explain him having a lifetime pass. Sounds farfetched to me.
Originally posted by nkotb:
What do you make of him referencing his father in the flash-forward? Jack clearly said to the new doctor that he should call his father and see who was drunker?
That, coupled with the fact that Jack said he's sick of all the lies when talking with Kate have me thinking all types of conspiracy theories. What if, thanks to this "magical box" that can grant you anything you want, all of the survivors have their lives turned back the way they want? Maybe they're rescued, but have to keep all of the secrets of the island and everything that happened to themselves.
Might make sense that Kate doesn't seem to be on the run any longer. And maybe that's what unhinges Jack; as a man of science, having that burden of knowing something but not being able to even open up about it sets him over the edge?
By the way, not only am I horribly addicted to Lost, I spent an hour after the show and my entire hour run this morning thinking the entire thing over. I am a geek.
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Surprisingly, I stay away from the message boards. As geeky as I am, I'm a staunch believer in no spoilers. Granted, I will check out links to see freeze-frame images and things like the obit that brennser posted, but otherwise I steer clear.
Also, I'm 100% back in after that episode. Boy howdy, that got me hooked.
Originally posted by Charlie Nakatestes,Japanese Golfer:
One far flung idea that I read was that they came back in time BEFORE the crash. Sort of a time travel thing. Would explain Jack's dark beard, but wouldn't explain him having a lifetime pass. Sounds farfetched to me.
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well if you haven't gone here yet, you should
http://losteastereggs.blogspot.com/ (http://losteastereggs.blogspot.com/)
Granted, I will check out links to see freeze-frame images and things like the obit that brennser posted, but otherwise I steer clear.
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Well, I'm back in as well after I yelled "WTF!" when Naomi fell over due to the pain-in-the-ass, Locke. :mad:
-I figured Kate needed to get back to Sawyer (very Dawson's Creek triangle if you ask me).
-Jack's beard I assumed was a bad job by the make-up team...He's a hairy dude and wouldn't take too long to grow an actual one. I don't think I'm gonna analyze this one for now.
-I couldn't guess who is in the casket...Locke is an interesting guess...That obit is weird.
-Walt is as freaky as Ben is evil.
-The shared bond b/w Danielle and her daughter was funny. I also laughed out loud when she put the smack down on Ben, who was tied to the tree. She went back to listening as if she had merely swatted a fly.
Sucks about Veronica Mars...I'm pretty much done watching 24, which is too bad. It's become too graphic/violent with no storyline.
Mankie - What do you think about Heroes?
That's pretty much all I'll be watching next season considering the fare being offered.
(Oh, and my guilty pleasure I confessed to - Dancing W/ The Stars...Yea, Apollo won! Ahem. I can go back to "normal" now.)
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Oh! Couple more things...If it's not Penny's boat could it be what's her name: Hurley's pseudo girlfriend, the blonde that was killed? She was a redhead in a cafe looking at picture of a boat - wasn't Penny/Desmond at the same cafe?
Sad about Charlie, yet he was annoying. (dragged out drowning too). I thought he was "bad" again when he whacked Desmond w/ the paddle. Locke irritates me too, but whatever.
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So, why the hell did Charlie shut himself in that room rather than stepping outside of the door and then closing it???!!! Was he just trying to fulfill Desmond's vision? It makes not sense to me. Unless I just don't understand how those doors work.
And is the name in the obit not Jeremy or Jonathan...but Jacob?
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I thought maybe it could only be closed from the side he was on. So he shut it, knowing that if he didn't, Desmond would die as well. Plus the fulfilling the vision part.
Why didn't he just swim out the window that the water came through, after the room had filled up with water?
Originally posted by jd930:
So, why the hell did Charlie shut himself in that room rather than stepping outside of the door and then closing it???!!! Was he just trying to fulfill Desmond's vision? It makes not sense to me. Unless I just don't understand how those doors work.
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Originally posted by brennser:
me, even though its been a shit season and I have seriously entertained the notion of quitting......I quit 24 instead
That's what I did as well. And I'm glad...enjoyed the last few episodes of Lost.
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Originally posted by Charlie Nakatestes,Japanese Golfer:
It was odd that Jack had a black beard in the flash-forward, though in the present it appears as if his beard is going majorly gray. Bad job by the makeup/costume people, or any meaning?
I thought exactly the same thing. In fact, I had thought it in reverse -- midway through I noticed Jack's island stubble with gray and thought, "clever of them to remember to make his beard and mustache brown in the flashbacks."
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Is Lost better than Jericho?
If Jericho was an HBO series it would rival Deadwood.
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- I was thinking it was Michaels's funeral because it was in the African American neighborhood/funeral home and because when Jack said to Kate that he thought she would have been there, her response wassomething like, why would i go to that? Remember, when we last saw Mike, no one liked him becasue he killed Anna Lucia and Libby and got to leave the island. I don't think Locke would leave the island (on his own) plus, he wasn't from New York, like the obit. said, but Mikey was.
-Did anyone else think it was odd that post island stay, Kate is no longer a fugitive?
-My favorite scene was when Sawyer killed Tom. He truely wasn't trhough with ol' Zeke.
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PS. I don't know how I feel about having to wait 8 months for another new episodes. The cliffhanger wasn't strong enough and Lost isn't the Sopranos.
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Originally posted by The Parkers are dead:
- I was thinking it was Michaels's funeral because it was in the African American neighborhood/funeral home and because when Jack said to Kate that he thought she would have been there, her response wassomething like, why would i go to that? Remember, when we last saw Mike, no one liked him becasue he killed Anna Lucia and Libby and got to leave the island. I don't think Locke would leave the island (on his own) plus, he wasn't from New York, like the obit. said, but Mikey was.
I like how Locke is discredited because he's not from New York like the obituary said, but the fact that Michael's name isn't J________ _anaham like the obituary said seems to not register with anyone.
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In my defense, I hadn't looked at the screen caps yet, and had no clue that's what the name on the obit read. Not all of us are into spoilers, you know?
Originally posted by Julian, faux celeb-porn CONNOISSEUR:
I like how Locke is discredited because he's not from New York like the obituary said, but the fact that Michael's name isn't J________ _anaham like the obituary said seems to not register with anyone.
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RE: Michael. No ones knows that Michael killed Anna Lucia and Libby. They thought Ben did it.
Kate was pissed at Michael for selling them out to the others.
One other thing that wasn't finalized this season. At the beginning, Kate had breakfast on the beach with Ben. He told her that the next 2 weeks were going to be difficult for her...what do you think that was about? My guess is that she had to choose either Jack or Sawyer to father her baby.
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Originally posted by K8teebug:
RE: Michael. No ones knows that Michael killed Anna Lucia and Libby. They thought Ben did it.
Michael admitted to killing them at the end of the second season when they were walking through the jungle.
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Originally posted by le sonick:
[QBi now have no idea whether we've been watching the past or the present or the future.
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Really? I thought they made it abundantly clear that the plane crash was in September 2004, so we've always been watching the past with flashbacks of the time before the crash.
I thought it was brilliant that the "flashbacks" this time were actually the present. I had to rewind the last scene so that it could all sink in.
I agree that the fall episodes were pretty awful, but I think now that the writers and producers know how many episodes they have left, the episodes will be better like they have been for the past 5 episodes or so.
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I watched it. I love the show, while the first few episode this season were kinda boring it has really picked up and hooked me again. I knew somehing was up right off the bat when it opened and Jack had a beard. I was thinking "When does this take place?"
I liked the season finale, and I liked how they proved Ben was telling the truth when Charlie writes "Not Penny's boat" on his hand. Oh well. Now we get a breather until more.
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Originally posted by nkotb:
Not all of us are into spoilers, you know?
I hit "pause" on my DVR. When did watching the episode become a spoiler?
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Sorry...not all of us have DVR's, and to see it clearly we would've had to go to a site that potentially had spoilers, and that's a no no. Is that better?
Originally posted by Julian, faux celeb-porn CONNOISSEUR:
Originally posted by nkotb:
Not all of us are into spoilers, you know?
I hit "pause" on my DVR. When did watching the episode become a spoiler? [/b]
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The more I think about it (and that's all I've been doing since I watched it), the more I think the guy in the casket is Michael. The obit said he was survived by a teenage son.
Which makes me think that Michael left the island and told other people how to get to the island and probably does some other bad stuff that he feels guilty about and he offs himself.
It's just my imagination...
I love this show
And yes, it's better than Jericho, my only other addiction. It's less schmaltzy than Jericho, but has the same mysterious qualities. *sigh* can I last until next season?