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=> GENERAL DISCUSSION => Topic started by: on May 23, 2007, 06:16:00 pm
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Use this thread for news stories you hear about and wonder why you haven't heard about them.
http://sistertoldjah.com/archives/2007/05/14/christian-newsom-murders-me (http://sistertoldjah.com/archives/2007/05/14/christian-newsom-murders-me) dia/
http://www.newsmax.com/archives/articles/2002/11/15/190420.shtml (http://www.newsmax.com/archives/articles/2002/11/15/190420.shtml)
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I am glad to see this thread starting, as it could contain 99 percent of the political topics you post here...
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Originally posted by They call me Doctor Doom.:
I am glad to see this thread starting, as it could contain 99 percent of the political topics you post here...
http://sistertoldjah.com/archives/2007/05/14/christian-newsom-murders-media/
"The lack of adequate media coverage on these crimes is a prime example of why the media is called the liberal media. It is done so for a reason. Why? Because the media, which is comprised mainly of so-called ??progressives??, doesn??t relish exploiting a crime most of the time unless the victim(s) involved are minorities assaulted and/or murdered by the ??privileged? white man. As we learned from the Duke lacrosse case, all it takes are allegations - not convictions - for the media to make judgement calls as to the guilt or innocence of the accused."
Dr.Doom, you would have made a good brown-shirter. You are in lockstep.
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will you tire of playing the victim dupek?
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Originally posted by pdx pollard:
will you tire of playing the victim dupek?
I'm merely jumping on the victim bandwagon with the rest of them/you.
It's the smart move. When do I get my reparations, btw?
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newyorktimesalsharptonwashingtonpostdanrathercnnjessejacksonhillaryclintonmichaelmoorenprhollywoodhanoijanebarbrastreisandrap
yadayadayada
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The media should always support liberal agendas at the expense of any/all others?
A grossly slanted bias is perfectly acceptable?
So then, am I to assume that media fairness is not a vital issue in today's America?
I guess it isn't...
BTW, I love all of the lockstep comments poasted so far. Very original thinking.
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just shut up already,nobody talks about this shit until you do, you bait people into it then act surprised when people react, both fucking sides are annoying, each and every argument is predictable, the same people say the same shit
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I love all the off topic weird news comments, they are rather plentiful among the leftist news outlets...if it helps to take your minds off the unpleasantness of these horrific racially (http://www.svengalimedia.com/blog1/) motivated crimes in Knoxville. I can remember when many of you were certain of the Duke lacrosse players guilt, at least that's how the media handled that ridiculously trumped up news story.
http://www.cleveland.com/readers/index.ssf?/base/opinion-0/1179650619169080.xml&coll=2 (http://www.cleveland.com/readers/index.ssf?/base/opinion-0/1179650619169080.xml&coll=2)
http://www.wmcstations.com/Global/story.asp?S=6534768 (http://www.wmcstations.com/Global/story.asp?S=6534768)
Heck, blacks in Knoxville are even celebrating (http://www.nowpublic.com/knox_blacks_celebrate_carjacking_rapists_in_party) the shocking crime! Newsworthy?
But still, unlike in the gorbal warming thread, no one has taken the time to answer my question.
I apologize for not being as educated as the rest of you. Unlike many of you I do not spring from wealth (http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2007/05/16/AR2007051602840_pf.html). My family couldn't afford to send me to the Ivy League. And I would appreciate it if you stopped calling me a member of the far right, as it is not the case. Originally posted by Psychoda alternata:
The media should always support liberal agendas at the expense of any/all others?
A grossly slanted bias is perfectly acceptable?
So then, am I to assume that media fairness is not a vital issue in today's America?
I guess it isn't...
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i don't recall discussing the duke case here at all.. and this whole liberal media bias is pure BULLSHIT given the fact that all major media is owned by large corporations. it's only been labeled liberally biased by conservatives because the story is often explained in depth and it reports on shit they don't want reported on. i.e. toxic waste, pollution, chemical dumping, etc the sort of things that cause companies to spend money and result in lower middle management pay.
so give it rest will ya... you've been asked time and time again drop it and yet you still keep it going. stick to the topics that are appropriate to the board.
p.s. no Ivy League education here i went to MOO U
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Yeah, seriously, take this racist crap to the Prussian Blue forums. You'll find plenty of good company there for your chip-on-the-shoulder-white-victimhood attitude there.
There are zillions of people who come in here out of curiosity in response to one show or other, and your political threads vastly increase the odds that they will leave in disgust rather than stick around.
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Originally posted by They call me Doctor Doom.:
white-victimhood ???
When did I complain of victimhood, sport? Calling me a racist deflect the focus from the topic poasted to an attack on me. Very typical of you.
The only racism in this topic is the lack of media coverage of a hate crime. It's called gross media bias...and it exists at all levels of national news reporting. It is becoming rather Orwellian. And Orwellian behavior in supposedly free America is shameful. Why can't you understand that? Because you have been brainwashed...also Orwellian. I forgive you for being stupid. It's clear you can't help it.
Why can't you just answer the question..? Perhaps you are pro black-on-white hatecrime in your heart? I don't hear you protesting it.
You believe in thought control. Gross media bias is a good thing for America, in your opinion. I dare you to refute it, sport.
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Originally posted by Psychoda alternata:
You believe in thought control.
If you mean I believe in silencing message board trolls when they get out of hand, then yes I do.
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as a working journalist, all this banter is amusing to watch.
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so take your gross media bias BS and spew it somewhere else.. speaking for many STFU or we'll have to call a moderator council
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I worked at the DC bureau of CBS News for 4 years. I would listen to Rush Limbuagh in my office and people would honestly give me looks of disgust and make some awfully rude comments to me. I found it rather amusing.
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Originally posted by Psychoda alternata:
Originally posted by They call me Doctor Doom.:
white-victimhood ???
When did I complain of victimhood, sport? Calling me a racist deflect the focus from the topic poasted to an attack on me. Very typical of you.
The only racism in this topic is the lack of media coverage of a hate crime. It's called gross media bias...and it exists at all levels of national news reporting. It is becoming rather Orwellian. And Orwellian behavior in supposedly free America is shameful. Why can't you understand that? Because you have been brainwashed...also Orwellian. I forgive you for being stupid. It's clear you can't help it.
Why can't you just answer the question..? Perhaps you are pro black-on-white hatecrime in your heart? I don't hear you protesting it.
You believe in thought control. Gross media bias is a good thing for America, in your opinion. I dare you to refute it, sport. [/b]
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The disparity in coverage between the Knoxville and Duke lacrosse stories can be easily explained without pointing to overt racism -- black 'bamas killing white people is not a rare occurrence. White college kids raping a black woman would be a very rare event. I believe it was Dupek who posted the DOJ stats showing that, in the last year for which data was available, the rate of white-on-black rape was statistically zero.
As for the ??liberal media? argument ?? if you don??t believe that (speaking in the broadest sense) ??the media? is ??liberal,? than you??re blind. It??s kind of like saying Americans love SUVs. Certainly you can find plenty of examples of Americans who don??t love SUVs and can find many adamantly opposed to SUVs. However, speaking generally, it is true that Americans love SUVs.
It??s the same with the media. One can find plenty of non-liberal and anti-liberal media, but speaking broadly, the media is liberal. The former Public Editor (ombudsman) of the New York Times addressed this issue a few years ago. He pointed out that 80% of his staff was liberal, as it is a profession that attracts far more from the left than from the right. He noted that his paper is headquartered in a city where anything goes. He also analyzed the Times?? news content on the gay marriage issue. He found that while the news stories were all legitimate individually, as a group, they showed the paper to have an undeniable pro-gay marriage bias. The Times, he noted, didn??t publish a single article that examined any difficulties or addressed any potential negative aspects of gay marriage. That didn??t surprise him, because he believed his staff and his city were overwhelmingly in favor of gay marriage and it is nigh impossible to overcome one??s own values, even when striving for impartiality.
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Has Sharpton appologized to the Duke Lacrosse players yet for falsely accusing them through the media?
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kosmo,
i think they should have a moderator council on you to be honest. STFU to you, good sir.
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Originally posted by manimtired:
kosmo,
i think they should have a moderator council on you to be honest. STFU to you, good sir.
Your remaining time here will be very difficult. No, kosmo won't kick you out but you will feel very unwelcome and eventually slide away on your trail of slime. Watch out for the salt.
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Will I be cyber-bullied?
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Originally posted by manimtired:
kosmo,
i think they should have a moderator council on you to be honest. STFU to you, good sir.
i suppose the fact that kosmo IS a moderator is lost upon you?
Originally posted by manimtired:
Will I be cyber-bullied?
nah, more like cyber-wedgied.
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Originally posted by ggw?:
As for the ??liberal media? argument ?? if you don??t believe that (speaking in the broadest sense) ??the media? is ??liberal,? than you??re blind.
if you can't see that the media is totally slanted to the right, you must not be paying attention. there, now we're even. and the truth is somewhere in between.
taking the NYT as an example of all US media? why don't we look at USA Today* instead and use that to label the entire industry? had a look at most popular radio talk shows (http://www.talkers.com/main/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=17&Itemid=34) recently?
it's a right-wing conspiracy, i'm telling you - no, not the media, but the right-wingers' claims of victimhood. repeat "liberal media" often enough and people will start believing it.
* footnote: NYT's weekday daily circulation: 1,086,798. USA Today's: 2,278,022.
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no i wasnt sweetcell. i just find it funny the moderator is proposing having a council due to the fact he disagrees with someone.
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Originally posted by manimtired:
kosmo,
i think they should have a moderator council on you to be honest. STFU to you, good sir.
hi, dupek!
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My point is not that the NY Times speaks for everyone; it's that I think that Okrent makes some very valid points on why journalism naturally leans toward liberal (based in urban centers; traditionally liberal profession). Personally, I don't have any problem with that, and I certainly don't consider myself "victimized" by it in any way.
As far as circulation statistics, those are strawmen. People don't read something looking to change their mind; they migrate toward that which reinforces the views they already hold.
Originally posted by sweetcell:
Originally posted by ggw?:
As for the ??liberal media? argument ?? if you don??t believe that (speaking in the broadest sense) ??the media? is ??liberal,? than you??re blind.
if you can't see that the media is totally slanted to the right, you must not be paying attention. there, now we're even. and the truth is somewhere in between.
taking the NYT as an example of all US media? why don't we look at USA Today* instead and use that to label the entire industry? had a look at most popular radio talk shows (http://www.talkers.com/main/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=17&Itemid=34) recently?
it's a right-wing conspiracy, i'm telling you - no, not the media, but the right-wingers' claims of victimhood. repeat "liberal media" often enough and people will start believing it.
* footnote: NYT's weekday daily circulation: 1,086,798. USA Today's: 2,278,022. [/b]
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Originally posted by manimtired:
no i wasnt sweetcell. i just find it funny the moderator is proposing having a council due to the fact he disagrees with someone.
Why don't you come back when you're not as tired?
This isn't about him disagreeing at all. It's about a patterned history since Dupek lost his job that is becoming problematic (to put it lightly) for the hosts and members of this board.
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I guess not being a liberal is seen as being problematic on this board.
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Originally posted by ggw?:
As far as circulation statistics, those are strawmen.
someone using a strawman argument to refute one of the most overused strawman arguments? :eek:
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http://www.dailymail.co.uk/pages/live/articles/news/worldnews.html?in_article_id=452288&in_page_id=1811 (http://www.dailymail.co.uk/pages/live/articles/news/worldnews.html?in_article_id=452288&in_page_id=1811)
For the Doomster..the Doominator...the man of Doomdon! ;)
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Originally posted by manimtired:
I guess not being a liberal is seen as being problematic on this board.
No, problematic would be running a bulletin board to attract business to your club, but constanlty having to police said message board due to inappropriate posts full of explicit and profoundly racist material.
Again, come back when you're less tired. This is not a political issue, it's a business issue.
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i havent seen the racist material. please provide a link and maybe ill see what youre crying about..yawn.
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ggw is one of the longest-tenured posters on the board - based on his comments over the years I don't think its a stretch to say he's probably not a liberal.....and I can't think of anyone who has a 'problem' with him
not being a liberal isn't the problem, being a pain in the ass is.....
Originally posted by manimtired:
I guess not being a liberal is seen as being problematic on this board.
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just put it this way warnings have been issued and i don't think twice about deleting stuff anymore...
the inconvenient truth game is no longer funny, if you don't like the fact that there are injustices, bias, etc in the world then do something about it! Write your congressmen, media, lather rinse repeat. continually airing them on this board is going to accomplish anything....
the constant blame game and i'm not a racist but the rest of the board is tired, either try to fit in or find some other place to pollute.
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Originally posted by manimtired:
i havent seen the racist material. please provide a link
I didn't post in this thread to prove any case against Dupek, I posted to defend your attack on Kosmo, and I will keep it as such. Much like my stance on Dupek, I won't be baited into garbage.
At this point I'm regretting asking where Dupek had been when he disappeared for a while, because I used to be fan. Now I've just grown tired of his constant off-topic baiting into discussions of whatever topic he is using to cure his boredom sans employment. I know I'm not alone.
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Originally posted by vansmack:
Originally posted by manimtired:
i havent seen the racist material. please provide a link
I didn't post in this thread to prove any case against Dupek, I posted to defend your attack on Kosmo, and I will keep it as such. Much like my stance on Dupek, I won't be baited into garbage.
At this point I'm regretting asking where Dupek had been when he disappeared for a while, because I used to be fan. Now I've just grown tired of his constant off-topic baiting into discussions of whatever topic he is using to cure his boredom sans employment. I know I'm not alone. [/b]
here, here...it'll be ok.
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Originally posted by brennser:
ggw is one of the longest-tenured posters on the board - based on his comments over the years I don't think its a stretch to say he's probably not a liberal.....and I can't think of anyone who has a 'problem' with him
not being a liberal isn't the problem, being a pain in the ass is.....
Venerable is another example of a person who's not a liberal whose posts I seldom ignore. He's my favorite libertarian-intellectual.
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Originally posted by vansmack:
I've just grown tired of his constant off-topic baiting into discussions of whatever topic he is using to cure his boredom sans employment. I know I'm not alone.
I agree. It is one of the main reasons I don't spend as much time here as I used to. It's become an ugly poisonous place @ times.
It's not even about the content or the message. It is the appropriateness of the outlet. Analogy: I don't go hiking to hear a loud rock concert (tho I do love both.)
For many - music is an escape from this kind of thought/content...if only for a short time period.
I say kill the garbage here. There are many, many, many other outlets available.
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I agree...kill it!
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