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=> GENERAL DISCUSSION => Topic started by: walkonby on July 30, 2004, 12:31:00 pm
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who needs a band that can't properly manage a website selling tickets, and has fans who buy tickets only to resell them on ebay for $500-$1000. I find it INTERESTING that many "ticket house companies" already had there tickets in hand to sell for the hampton roads show that wasn't even announced yet. way to go ticketbastard for "giving" out pre-advance tickets to these people for your own profit. goodbye to a band who was swallowed by corporations of human greed (not due to their part). what jam band will be destroyed next?
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Originally posted by walkonby:
what jam band will be destroyed next?
*jumps out of chair, waving hand in the air* Ooh ooh oohh!
All of them!
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Originally posted by walkonby:
what jam band will be destroyed next?
With any luck, all of them.
-edit- Damn! RC beat me to the punch :mad:
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all bands, my friends, all bands. ticketbastard does the same thing to any band with name recognition. why do you think wilco sold out so quick at 9:30? ticketbastard had already given half the tickets away to ticket brokers before they even went on sale. did anyone check ebay the day wilco tickets went on sale? atleast ten people had already been selling them two days prior. thank god polyphonic spree haven't "taken off" yet!!!
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You had me at "phuck phish"
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Don't worry...we're all on board with the "Ticketmaster is evil" platform. The real question at hand is what is more evil...Ticketmaster or jam bands?
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Originally posted by walkonby:
all bands, my friends, all bands. ticketbastard does the same thing to any band with name recognition. why do you think wilco sold out so quick at 9:30? ticketbastard had already given half the tickets away to ticket brokers before they even went on sale. did anyone check ebay the day wilco tickets went on sale? atleast ten people had already been selling them two days prior. thank god polyphonic spree haven't "taken off" yet!!!
well, 930 club doesn't use ticketmaster.. . so, please explain how ticketmaster gave away tickets.
i will say that trying to get football tickets is a big pain cause the teams horde the tickets, and won't release them. . .was trying to get tickets to the chiefs/ravens game, and you could only buy 2 at a time. . i called their ticket office and asked them how could i buy 5 tickets, they said you can't. so, i explained to him that i was trying to get 5 for a party, and he said, you can't buy 5. . .so i said, how are people selling tickets already on ebay? he told me that those are season ticket holders selling them, upon which i asked, you mean season ticket holders can hold 20 seats? and he said, well, there are people here (meaning with the ravens) that own 300 seats. i mean, come on. . .give the fan a chance to take some people to the game at a decent cost. as it is, i'm probably gonna have to spend $100 for a $30 ticket.
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i just love people's open loathingness of jam bands. god's it's great. i listen to it all, baby: ska-funk to prince-punk. i remember when i was skating everyday and listening to the circle jerks and dead kennedys. man we all hated those dirty hippies and their grateful crap music. and then i evolved. one sided views are corrupt and whatever. whose mind am i going to change, out there? jam bands are not evil; pat robertson is evil. go and think what you want; i know i do. just make sure you show up for polyphonic spree!! wear your cult robes!!
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oh and i was wrong; i'm sorry. the wilco thing was by tickets.com. tickets.com does the same thing as ticketbastard, by giving away pre-tickets to brokers, who sell the stickets and give a piece of the profit back to tickets.com or ticketbastard
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Don't worry. If Polyphonic Spree is half as lame as Phish, they'll take off too.
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:D
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Originally posted by walkonby:
and then i evolved.
You mean regressed. I'm not going to generalize Phish phans, but on top of not liking the music at all, I hate the fans even more. The pot-smoking hippies grind on me like nails on a chalk-board, and the arrogant pseudo-musicians who think I don't get it cause I really don't get music in general, can kiss my ass. Most of this jam/improv shit is basically just a big "my dick is bigger contest" where the musicians get off on trying to show folks how awesome they can play their instrument. I don't fuckin care how great you can noodle on a guitar, go get off in your own house. I have no idea what any of you see in this shit (especially if you don't fit into one of the two categories above), and i never will. Go find a utopian island somewhere where you can grow lots of pot and leave the rest of us alone.
:eek: Sorry... the jam top always hits a nerve with me. (NO comments please!)
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wow..., you just generalized every band on the planet.
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Originally posted by redsock:
:D
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You listen to it all? Who are your five favorite classic country artists?
Originally posted by walkonby:
i just love people's open loathingness of jam bands. god's it's great. i listen to it all, baby: ska-funk to prince-punk. i remember when i was skating everyday and listening to the circle jerks and dead kennedys. man we all hated those dirty hippies and their grateful crap music. and then i evolved. one sided views are corrupt and whatever. whose mind am i going to change, out there? jam bands are not evil; pat robertson is evil. go and think what you want; i know i do. just make sure you show up for polyphonic spree!! wear your cult robes!!
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Why do pot smoking hippies annoy you more than drunken hipsters?
Originally posted by redsock:
Originally posted by walkonby:
and then i evolved.
You mean regressed. I'm not going to generalize Phish phans, but on top of not liking the music at all, I hate the fans even more. The pot-smoking hippies grind on me like nails on a chalk-board, and the arrogant pseudo-musicians who think I don't get it cause I really don't get music in general, can kiss my ass. Most of this jam/improv shit is basically just a big "my dick is bigger contest" where the musicians get off on trying to show folks how awesome they can play their instrument. I don't fuckin care how great you can noodle on a guitar, go get off in your own house. I have no idea what any of you see in this shit (especially if you don't fit into one of the two categories above), and i never will. Go find a utopian island somewhere where you can grow lots of pot and leave the rest of us alone.
:eek: Sorry... the jam top always hits a nerve with me. (NO comments please!) [/b]
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In many cases it is the band, not ticketmaster, that sells their ticket allotment directly to brokers.
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Originally posted by walkonby:
wow..., you just generalized every band on the planet.
If you are referring to the noodling, you need to get out more. There is nothing wrong with a tasteful guitar solo. But there is something wrong with a guitar, drum, keys, and bass solo in almost every song. At the very least, get a real guitar and play some rock'n'roll as opposed to that jazz wa-wa shit.
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Wow. So much irrational hate 'jammed' into such a short post.
Perhaps it is you who needs to find an island on which to be alone?
Originally posted by redsock:
You mean regressed. I'm not going to generalize Phish phans, but on top of not liking the music at all, I hate the fans even more. The pot-smoking hippies grind on me like nails on a chalk-board, and the arrogant pseudo-musicians who think I don't get it cause I really don't get music in general, can kiss my ass. Most of this jam/improv shit is basically just a big "my dick is bigger contest" where the musicians get off on trying to show folks how awesome they can play their instrument. I don't fuckin care how great you can noodle on a guitar, go get off in your own house. I have no idea what any of you see in this shit (especially if you don't fit into one of the two categories above), and i never will. Go find a utopian island somewhere where you can grow lots of pot and leave the rest of us alone.
:eek: Sorry... the jam top always hits a nerve with me. (NO comments please!)
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Originally posted by ggwâ?¢:
Wow. So much irrational hate 'jammed' into such a short post.
Perhaps it is you who needs to find an island on which to be alone?
Originally posted by redsock:
You mean regressed. I'm not going to generalize Phish phans, but on top of not liking the music at all, I hate the fans even more. The pot-smoking hippies grind on me like nails on a chalk-board, and the arrogant pseudo-musicians who think I don't get it cause I really don't get music in general, can kiss my ass. Most of this jam/improv shit is basically just a big "my dick is bigger contest" where the musicians get off on trying to show folks how awesome they can play their instrument. I don't fuckin care how great you can noodle on a guitar, go get off in your own house. I have no idea what any of you see in this shit (especially if you don't fit into one of the two categories above), and i never will. Go find a utopian island somewhere where you can grow lots of pot and leave the rest of us alone.
:eek: Sorry... the jam top always hits a nerve with me. (NO comments please!)
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I never claimed to be rational.
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So your dick is small? Nothing to be ashamed of. You still probably have all the Asian men in the world beat, and like they say, it's not really the size, it's the way you use it.
Originally posted by redsock:
Originally posted by walkonby:
and then i evolved.
You mean regressed. I'm not going to generalize Phish phans, but on top of not liking the music at all, I hate the fans even more. The pot-smoking hippies grind on me like nails on a chalk-board, and the arrogant pseudo-musicians who think I don't get it cause I really don't get music in general, can kiss my ass. Most of this jam/improv shit is basically just a big "my dick is bigger contest" where the musicians get off on trying to show folks how awesome they can play their instrument. I don't fuckin care how great you can noodle on a guitar, go get off in your own house. I have no idea what any of you see in this shit (especially if you don't fit into one of the two categories above), and i never will. Go find a utopian island somewhere where you can grow lots of pot and leave the rest of us alone.
:eek: Sorry... the jam top always hits a nerve with me. (NO comments please!) [/b]
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five clasic country artist whom i just love:
conway twitty, merle haggard, little jimmie dickins, glenn cambell (wait.., was he really country?), oak ridge boys, earl scruggs (he might be more bluegrass than county), and let us never forget tammy wynette. i know that's seven, but it must be all that pot i smoke.
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glenn cambell (wait.., was he really country[/QB]
Country for sure. Check out his stuff with Bobbie Gentry. Great songwriter if you can forgive "Rhinestone Cowboy."
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I'd have to go with George Jones, Hank Williams, Patsy Cline, Johnny Cash, and Merle Haggard.
Oak Ridge Boys? Dude, cmon, you must be starting your weekend smoking a little early?
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Originally posted by Rhett Miller:
I'd have to go with George Jones, Hank Williams, Patsy Cline, Johnny Cash, and Merle Haggard.
Oak Ridge Boys? Dude, cmon, you must be starting your weekend smoking a little early?
I always love "Elvira." I used to sing it as a kid, especially the realy deep base guy.
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George Jones, Willie Nelson, Dolly Parton, Bob Wills & Texas Playboys, Waylon Jennings
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I always love "Elvira." I used to sing it as a kid, especially the realy deep base guy.
I believe it was written by the Matrix.
The Statler Bros. laugh at the Oak Ridge Boys.
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Willie Nelson is a hophead.
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omg..., i forgot loretta. forgive me you coal miner's daughter, you. the new album was so great, girl. phish should do an album with jack. ooops; i mentioned that "jam" band again.
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So...Redsock...exactly how long have you been a Phish-head?
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phishheads, fishheads, rollie pollie phishheads
fishheads, phishheads, eat them up, yum!
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Originally posted by walkonby:
[QB] i just love people's open loathingness of jam bands. god's it's great. i listen to it all, baby: ska-funk to prince-punk. i remember when i was skating everyday and listening to the circle jerks and dead kennedys. man we all hated those dirty hippies and their grateful crap music. and then i evolved. one sided views are corrupt and whatever. whose mind am i going to change, out there? jam bands are not evil; pat robertson is evil. go and think what you want; i know i do.
you have a nod in agreement here. yet I can see redsock's point as well. I think if we put both posts together, there's something for everyone.
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The Phish Phactory is a RCRA site releasing contaminants into nearby water sources. When it closes this summer it will be placed on the National Priority List under Superfund and will become Mike Leavitt's number one concern the rest of his time as EPA administrator. He has promised that this scar upon the land will be cleaned up for music loving citizens of this country if it is the last thing he ever does.
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That whole noodling thing is also a huge generalization of sorts. Have you listened to anything by newer "jambands" such as the disco biscuits, umphrey's mcgee, sound tribe sector 9 or the new deal? These and many other bands compose entire sections on the spot where each member fits in perfectly and in effect jam as one unit. They also include electronic elements which enhance their sound giving them a virtually infinite amount of tools to play with. While there are bands whose members solo a great deal (which I enjoy. everyone has a right to his or her own musical tastes), there are other "jambands" who very rarely do that at all if ever.
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Originally posted by azaghal1981:
That whole noodling thing is also a huge generalization of sorts. Have you listened to anything by newer "jambands" such as the disco biscuits, umphrey's mcgee, sound tribe sector 9 or the new deal? These and many other bands compose entire sections on the spot where each member fits in perfectly and in effect jam as one unit. They also include electronic elements which enhance their sound giving them a virtually infinite amount of tools to play with. While there are bands whose members solo a great deal (which I enjoy. everyone has a right to his or her own musical tastes), there are other "jambands" who very rarely do that at all if ever.
That was the most boring thing I've ever read. Must also be a Sleater-Kinney fan.
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Originally posted by azaghal1981:
That whole noodling thing is also a huge generalization of sorts. Have you listened to anything by newer "jambands" such as the disco biscuits, umphrey's mcgee, sound tribe sector 9 or the new deal? These and many other bands compose entire sections on the spot where each member fits in perfectly and in effect jam as one unit. They also include electronic elements which enhance their sound giving them a virtually infinite amount of tools to play with. While there are bands whose members solo a great deal (which I enjoy. everyone has a right to his or her own musical tastes), there are other "jambands" who very rarely do that at all if ever.
STS9 are very boring live, though I do appreciate the more electronic influenced stuff. I have heard disco biscuit and new deal CDs before, and I admit to actually finding somethings to like on them, though I doubt their live show would do very much for me.
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god..., after all that; i got a stinking phish ticket for the show that started this tirade in the first place. an ticketbastard screw up actually worked in my favour, and somehow a ticket appeared where they said a failure to process had been before. ticketbastard helped me. im speechless..., which i'm waiting for the expected "thank god" from the peanut gallery.
you're hanging around the day; you filling yourself with blame. (hooray, hooray; the great cult is almost upon us at 930. kool aid for all in the women's bathroom.)
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Awesome. Maybe I'll give it a try. ;)
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Originally posted by Rhett Miller:
I'd have to go with George Jones, Hank Williams, Patsy Cline, Johnny Cash, and Merle Haggard.
Nice list...though I'd personalize it as:
George Jones, Johnny Cash, Merle Haggard, Dwight Yoakam, Charlie Rich and early Sun-era Elvis Presley (I know he's a bit of stretch, but I'm sticking with it)
Regarding Ticketbastard - if you can't beat them, just work around them:
ten club (http://www.pearljam.com/)
Relatedly, there's a rumor going around that suggests a Fall PJ tour. An active 10C membership is needed to ensure that you get fan club tix though.
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Isn't buying your ticket off ebay for 500 bucks only to do nitrous all day long in the parking lot just part of the phish way? I can't wait to see them go.
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Originally posted by grotty:
Relatedly, there's a rumor going around that suggests a Fall PJ tour. An active 10C membership is needed to ensure that you get fan club tix though.
Oh yeah PJ and DCFC in Reading, PA as part of the Vote for Change Concerts!!!!
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Originally posted by kosmo vinyl:
Originally posted by grotty:
Relatedly, there's a rumor going around that suggests a Fall PJ tour. An active 10C membership is needed to ensure that you get fan club tix though.
Oh yeah PJ and DCFC in Reading, PA as part of the Vote for Change Concerts!!!! [/b]
I'm on it Kosmo! Gonna try to do both. Wanna go? :D
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It's really quite amazing -- there are foiur tours, October 1 - October 8:
REM/Bruce Springsteen/John Fogerty/Bright Eyes
Pearl Jam/Death Cab for Cutie
Dave Matthews Band / Jurassic 5 / My Morning Jacket
Dixie Chicks / James Taylor
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"We have an opportunity to change the direction our country is headed and to elect a government that is just, rational and respectful of the views and rights of the people it serves," said Stone Gossard of Pearl Jam.
Artists participating in Vote for Change have merged their energies and talents to focus on states that are expected to have the closest race in the presidential election this fall. This unprecedented effort will include approximately 40 shows in 30 cities in 9 battleground states over the course of 10 days.
These concerts will feature Babyface, Jackson Browne, Dave Matthews Band, Death Cab for Cutie, the Dixie Chicks, Ben Harper, Jurassic 5, John Mellencamp, My Morning Jacket, Pearl Jam, Bonnie Raitt, R.E.M., James Taylor, Bruce Springsteen and the E Street Band and more. These and other artists will appear on separate bills on the same night in selected cities around several battleground states. Vote for Change artists hope to accomplish a single goal through the tour: to get people to the polls on November 2nd to vote for a change.
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