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=> GENERAL DISCUSSION => Topic started by: Bags on August 02, 2004, 11:26:00 am
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Okay, tonight's show is listed at 8:30. Is that showtime or doors? Any idea when they start stamping hands?
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Originally posted by Bagalicious Tangster:
Okay, tonight's show is listed at 8:30. Is that showtime or doors? Any idea when they start stamping hands?
It's the showtime. Iota opens up the bar pretty early in the day, so if you're already inside, you pay and get stamped. Otherwise, you pay and get stamped on your way into the bar.
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We're hitting Whitlow's for half-price burger night, and thought we'd jump over to Whitlow's mid-meal to get stamped...so we can probably get stamped by 7:30, then come back at 8:30?
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Originally posted by Bagalicious Tangster:
We're hitting Whitlow's for half-price burger night, and thought we'd jump over to Whitlow's mid-meal to get stamped...so we can probably get stamped by 7:30, then come back at 8:30?
You should ask at the door. I don't recall their "in and out" policy. It's first-come, first-served, so if you arrive at 8:30 and they're at capacity, you may not be able to re-enter.
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Yeah, they usually start stamping around 7:30.
And although the showtime is 8:30, I doubt the first act will go on before 9:15 or 9:30.
Iota shows are notorious for ending 15 minutes after the last metro leaves...
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Dang. I wanna go to tonight's show but can't get there till like 9pm. Do y'all think that Camera Obscura will be a sellout?
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Chimbley, I have no idea. But I have a friend who coming who can't wait to see the Rosebuds, and misjudged an Evan Dando show that sold out once, so he doesn't want to take any chances (yet I didn't want to eat at Iota...)
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Originally posted by Random Citizen:
Originally posted by Bagalicious Tangster:
We're hitting Whitlow's for half-price burger night, and thought we'd jump over to Whitlow's mid-meal to get stamped...so we can probably get stamped by 7:30, then come back at 8:30?
You should ask at the door. I don't recall their "in and out" policy. It's first-come, first-served, so if you arrive at 8:30 and they're at capacity, you may not be able to re-enter. [/b]
If you are stamped and paid you can re-enter. They do watch the capacity throughout the night (I think they also keep track of how many "tickets" they have sold), but if you are stamped and paid, and return to a full-house, I would think they wouldn't refuse you even if at capacity. In fact, I've seen a full-house and someone comes in, shows their stamp and they get the go ahead. Didn't nkotbie do this awhile back and it worked swell?
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Originally posted by chimbly sweep:
Dang. I wanna go to tonight's show but can't get there till like 9pm. Do y'all think that Camera Obscura will be a sellout?
I dunno their fan base in this area, but it's a Monday...I've found Mondays and Tuesdays to be a bit slower at Iota. It's a toss up. I've seen bands sell out on Sunday night at Iota...so..it depends on the band I suppose..
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Originally posted by bellenseb:
Yeah, they usually start stamping around 7:30.
And although the showtime is 8:30, I doubt the first act will go on before 9:15 or 9:30.
Iota shows are notorious for ending 15 minutes after the last metro leaves...
Yeah, 7 inside, about 7:30 at the door.
Last year, Iota seemed to run a little behind in the start time (no more than 15 minutes). This year, I've found they've started at the time posted.
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iron & wine was on a monday nite (tuesday, too) and that was an EASY sell out, line all the way down wilson by around 8. i think this will be a pretty crowded show. the closest comp would be the clientele show there about a year ago (?), and while i'm not sure if that was sold out, it was at least pretty crowded. this is a can't-miss show for me, so i'll be getting there between 730 and 8.
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Did it end up selling out? I got there at about 9pm and there was no problem getting in-- not even a line. But it seems the Rosebuds have their own following, many of whom left after their set.
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There was a small group for Rosebuds, with about 5 folks up front really dancing (turns out one guy is from the Florenteens, whom I went to see at Galaxy Hut about midway through Camera's set). I'd say there were maybe 25 for the Rosebuds starting out, though it grew as their set progressed (they went on at 8:50 and played until about 9:35).
But let me tell you, for Camera Obscura that place was packed. Not a sell out, but I went from the front to the bathroom and just didn't bother going back up. And getting out mid-show was tough. So, for a rainy Monday, the draw was impressive. Alas, I didn't find C.O. that impressive -- it was just too soft and twee for me. About midway we headed to Galaxy Hut and caught the Florenteens (where the Rosebuds were hanging out, along with most of Metropolitan). Cool show, I look forward to catching them again.
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I found the show a little bleh... maybe it was the rain on a sleepy monday, but i wasn't excited by it and was holding back yawns. it was okay.
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Originally posted by chimbly sweep:
I found the show a little bleh... maybe it was the rain on a sleepy monday, but i wasn't excited by it and was holding back yawns. it was okay.
Good for you; I was unable to hold back my yawns. :D
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Shrug, I really enjoyed the show. They're sort of carrying on the mantle of old-school B&S, and I can't complain. They played my favorite, "Sun on his Back".
I actually thought the music was pretty upbeat and not so "soft"...compared to say, Iron and Wine...but others' idea of the center are different than mine. This and the Essex Green/Ladybug Transistor show have made for a great week of live indiepop.
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bellenseb, are you the one who yelped when she announced "sun on his back"?
I guess that while I like softer albums to listen to, I can feel quite uninspired at a show; I need more energy (or a sit down venue with a different vibe). The music was nice, but the band was really...even-keeled. The girls looked as if it rained on them they might weep...
I saw Belle & Seb at DAR -- great show because it was a huge spectacle, great lights, pretty funny (they seem to have fun playing as well as a sense of humor). Very different. The friend with me last night is a HUGE B&S fan, and the term "soft" for C.O. was his, actually...I was calling them "way twee." But, another guy with us enjoyed C.O., certainly preferring them to the Rosebuds.
From your description, Iron & Wine maybe isn't for me... ;) But, that's what makes the world go round (and Camera certainly had a big audience). Otherwise all the same shows would be packed.
I heard that Essex Green was great. I was all set to go to that show and I just bailed for no reason. I'm disappointed...I keep missing some good ones for no reason!
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honestly, though, their albums don't sound so "soft"... chalk it up to them being so visibly, and audibly, burned out from their tour.
note to bands: please don't so overwork yourselves on tour that the shows become dead. it somewhat discourages fans that paid to see you play in a more lively state.
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Like playing for 60 minutes a night is such godawful hard work. If only we could all be so lucky.
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"Here's what I always said about touring: You don't get paid for the show, you get paid for the 22 hours of fucking around you gotta do waiting for that show." -- Greg Dulli
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I could find a hell of a lot of cool things to do if I had 22 hours a day free, especially if it were in a new city every day. Even if it meant driving a few hours a day. Sounds like what I do when I go on vacation, except for the 1-2 hours of "work".
Originally posted by Random Citizen:
"Here's what I always said about touring: You don't get paid for the show, you get paid for the 22 hours of fucking around you gotta do waiting for that show." -- Greg Dulli
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Naw, I didn't yell out. Great song though.
I dunno, they sounded pretty identical to the album to me - not much less or more lively. I didn't expect lots of ultra-high energy. I feel like their music is meant to be comforting and wistful and not very excitable, really.
Good stuff for their not-so-excitable fan base.
I was bummed out by that DAR show...the whole sit down/stand up tension was no fun. They needed to play in a floor venue, and the DAR gestapo didn't let anyone dance. I really only like to sit down to see solo acoustic type performances.
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i'm totally with bellenseb here...i thought that camera obscura was just fine last night (though a bit quiet, which didn't really bother me because i could have worked my way up closer if i wanted to get away from crowd chatter). and i thought that belle and sebastian flat-out sucked at DAR; the 9:30 show last october was far superior.
camera obscura were incredibly twee, but they had wistfully good melodies, and i was in the mood for a good twee show. there's only so much abrasive noise, free jazz, and doom metal a fellow can listen to :p
the rosebuds impressed the hell out of me, too. i wasn't that into their show at the black cat last month -- it was good if unmemorable -- but the iota sound and atmosphere really brought out the best in ivan's singing and the group's overall energy. i'm definitely a fan now.
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I think C.O. following the Rosebuds may have impacted my reception of the band...the Rosebuds had a lot of energy, and I felt quite...left afloat by C.O.
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sounds like I missed a good show...
Camera Obscura At Iota
It's hard to imagine seven people who look less likely to be in a rock band -- even an indie rock band -- than the members of Camera Obscura.
Appearing overwhelmingly ordinary, however, is just one of the group's sneaky charms. At a crowded Iota on Monday night, it displayed many others, most noticeably a bent for winsome, clear-eyed pop that is as sharp and wry as it is occasionally heartbreaking.
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There are no flashes of brilliance with the Scottish group, or anything particularly complicated about its sound: A muted trumpet solo here, a shimmering tambourine flourish there, lightly strummed guitars. Drummer Lee Thomson uses brushes as often as he uses sticks. And yet, as simple as the songs are, they float on a sort of morphine loveliness as calming as a piping-hot cup of Sleepytime tea.
The band's atmospheric creations -- and its Glasgow address -- have earned it comparisons to fellow Glaswegians Belle & Sebastian.
The bands do share a penchant for twee pop, but Camera Obscura also infuses bits of '60s girl-group soul and a touch of twangy country to create its own pedigree.
Tracyanne Campbell is both lead singer and chief deliverer of droll asides.
When she introduced "Sun on His Back," a loud "whoo-hoo!" came from the back of the crowd. "Well, somebody wants it" was her deadpan response. Deadpan might also describe the title of the band's new album, "Underachievers Please Try Harder," and a couple Morrisey-esque songs they played, "Let Me Go Home" and "I Don't Want to See You."
Perhaps the band's greatest achievement is making the mundane sound absorbing.
The line "I should be suspended from class / I don't know my notebook from my [bleep]" isn't exactly great poetry, but Campbell and John Henderson's harmonies on the chorus took it into hopelessly forlorn and achingly beautiful territory.
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I think the reviewer was standing behind me (next to the booth-in-the-middle-of-the-room) taking notes the whole time.
It was interesting to me that he was tall. I guess that makes sense... I'm short and I sort of don't see half the bands I go to see.
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Originally posted by Rhett Miller:
The bands do share a penchant for twee pop, but Camera Obscura also infuses bits of '60s girl-group soul and a touch of twangy country to create its own pedigree.
You may have enjoyed it Rhett, it was quite twangy at times, and very retro -- like a sleepy time patsy cline with a quiet voice. Which I found....sleepy.
That's what I think Rosebuds and C.O. have in common -- a retro sound, though one is twee and one is rock.
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Originally posted by Bagalicious Tangster:
Originally posted by Rhett Miller:
The bands do share a penchant for twee pop, but Camera Obscura also infuses bits of '60s girl-group soul and a touch of twangy country to create its own pedigree.
You may have enjoyed it Rhett, it was quite twangy at times, and very retro -- like a sleepy time patsy cline with a quiet voice. Which I found....sleepy.
That's what I think Rosebuds and C.O. have in common -- a retro sound, though one is twee and one is rock. [/b]
I thought to go...listened that morning and they're not too bad. But, I was more in the mood for a rock show. ;) so, Bags, did you go get you hand stamped and then go back? Just curious for furure goings to Iota.
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Originally posted by Bagalicious Tangster:
Originally posted by Rhett Miller:
The bands do share a penchant for twee pop, but Camera Obscura also infuses bits of '60s girl-group soul and a touch of twangy country to create its own pedigree.
You may have enjoyed it Rhett, [/b]
Oh, and yeah, Rhett would have liked 'em.
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Well, Sugartastic, I was not previously aware of just how popular the Whitlow's half price burger night is. Who knew, but that's where the long lines were...45 minute wait, so I went in to Iota about 7:30 -- bar was virtually empty. I ate a not great burger at the bar and had a seat there until the Rosebuds came on.
But yes, you could have gotten stamped, left and come back. They don't start stamping until about 8:00, little after.
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Originally posted by Bagalicious Tangster:
Well, Sugartastic, I was not previously aware of just how popular the Whitlow's half price burger night is. I ate a not great burger at the bar and had a seat there until the Rosebuds came on.
Oh yeah, forgot that. And oh yeah, coulda told ya that;).
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Originally posted by Rhett Miller:
I could find a hell of a lot of cool things to do if I had 22 hours a day free, especially if it were in a new city every day. Even if it meant driving a few hours a day. Sounds like what I do when I go on vacation, except for the 1-2 hours of "work".
Originally posted by Random Citizen:
"Here's what I always said about touring: You don't get paid for the show, you get paid for the 22 hours of fucking around you gotta do waiting for that show." -- Greg Dulli
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Huh. I dunno, it's not exactly like that.
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Shit! That's far from the life of most rock muscians!