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Title: Bono Nominated for Nobel Peace Prize
Post by: ggw on February 18, 2003, 02:19:00 pm: (http://eur.news1.yimg.com/eur.yimg.com/xp/reuters_ids/20030218/i/3145207376.jpg) <A HREF="http://uk.news.yahoo.com/030218/80/dti32.html" TARGET=_blank>http://uk.news.yahoo.com/030218/80/dti32.html[/url] [This message has been edited by ggw (edited 02-18-2003).]
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Post by: lily1 on February 18, 2003, 02:45:00 pm: feckin hell. i love the man, i love the band, always have, always will, but the nobel prize?
Title: Re: Bono Nominated for Nobel Peace Prize
Post by: keithstg on February 18, 2003, 03:18:00 pm: That is absolutely ridiculous. Awful, even.
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Post by: raebyddet on February 18, 2003, 03:27:00 pm: A sad, sad, sad day.
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Post by: andyrichter on February 18, 2003, 05:36:00 pm: well, at least he didn't bribe his way for the nomination. kim dae jung, south korea's ex-pres, basically bought his nobel peace prize by paying off north korean officials for the now tainted reunification meeting in 2000.
Title: Re: Bono Nominated for Nobel Peace Prize
Post by: myuman on February 18, 2003, 09:43:00 pm: <BLOCKQUOTE>quote:<HR>Originally posted by lily1: feckin hell. i love the man, i love the band, always have, always will, but the nobel prize? <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>I completely agree. I miss the days when it was about music... well come to think of it, U2 was never completely about the music. Keep in mind, if you were him, you'd do the same thing.... and this nomination is not his doing.... but I'm sure he'll run with it, and why not. One might wonder however if George Sr. was right and stating that he would not listen to "Rock Star" advice but rather reputable advice.... times have changed.
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Post by: walkman on February 18, 2003, 09:57:00 pm: That being said, he's using his fame properly. Quite a concept in the Eminem age.
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Post by: Ikarus on February 19, 2003, 03:37:00 am: okay, bono is one of the more annoying hypocrite/celebrity activists out there. he reminds me of 'california uber alles'.but the nobel peace prizes have a history of selecting laughable laureates. willem de clerk, henry kissinger, yasser arafat (and i'm pro-palestinian) have no business being recognized for their efforts towards the good of humanity. lech walesa, mother theresa, ml king, okay, great choices. bono has done sweet fuck all except for carefully arranged self-serving publicity junkets. this year there should be no winner and the prize awarded to the general fund, since we won't see anything resembling peace any time soon.
Title: Re: Bono Nominated for Nobel Peace Prize
Post by: vansmack on February 19, 2003, 02:51:00 pm: And he deserves the Nobel Peace Prize.He has reduced the debt in third world nations over $100 Billion. The Nobel Peace Proze is the least they could give him for his tireless efforts.
Title: Re: Bono Nominated for Nobel Peace Prize
Post by: keithstg on February 19, 2003, 02:56:00 pm: More like tireless self-promoting efforts. I doubt he cut a check for $100B. And, arguing with our secretary of the treasury while on what was essentially a safari hardly counts.That said, if Arafat and Il Jong are eligible, I guess everyone is.
Title: Re: Bono Nominated for Nobel Peace Prize
Post by: ggw on February 19, 2003, 03:05:00 pm: It could be worse, they could give it to Sonny Bono:"In the United States, the Sonny Bono Copyright Term Extension Act of 1998 retroactively extended the duration of copyright from the life of author plus fifty years to the life of the author plus seventy years, in the case of individual works, and from seventy-five years to ninety-five years in the case of works of corporate authorship and works first published before January 1, 1978."
Title: Re: Bono Nominated for Nobel Peace Prize
Post by: vansmack on February 19, 2003, 03:12:00 pm: <BLOCKQUOTE>quote:<HR>Originally posted by keithstg: I doubt he cut a check for $100B. <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>He couldn't write the check himself so he went on the campaign.I suppose he could have sat back on his ass, bought some cars and some big TV's, fattened his crib and waited for MTV to come knocking so he could promote himself on MTV Cribs couldn't he?But he didn't. He championed world leaders to reduce the money they were owed by developing countries so that the money could be put to better use in the country.I understand that a lot of you hate everything popular and have issues with Bono's ego, but discount what he did. He has gone further than most before him to reduce the debt of third world countries. A plethora of some of the most brilliant minds in the world have complemented Bono for knowing his stuff - he's not just using his fame, he's doing his homework too.
Title: Re: Bono Nominated for Nobel Peace Prize
Post by: Relaxer on February 20, 2003, 10:29:00 am: <BLOCKQUOTE>quote:<HR>Originally posted by keithstg: More like tireless self-promoting efforts. I doubt he cut a check for $100B. And, arguing with our secretary of the treasury while on what was essentially a safari hardly counts. B]<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>So how much money do you contribute? How much of your time do you spend on issues that do not benefit yourself? How many truly important global issues have you elevated beyond yourself to your community (whether it be your family, neighborhood or city)? Bono is an easy target because of the Fly shades, the Joshua-era sanctimony, etc. But the fact is that he has gotten personally involved in many issues. He doesn't just write a check or show up at an event like 99% of celebrities. He lobbies politicians (and not just in a preaching-to-the-choir way, he debated with Jesse Helms), he learns the issues thoroughly, and he spends enormous amounts of time and energy on helping others. And since you're so obviously knowledgeable on the issue and who should not win, who do you think should win?
Title: Re: Bono Nominated for Nobel Peace Prize
Post by: keithstg on February 20, 2003, 11:34:00 am: Your personal jibes aside, I personally find Bono to be a sanctimonious prat. I am entitled to that opinion, as well as the opinion that when compared to the 150 other individuals and organizations nominated, Bono does not pass muster.
Title: Re: Bono Nominated for Nobel Peace Prize
Post by: Henry Dark on February 20, 2003, 12:08:00 pm: What the hell is a sanctimonious prat? Speak American, boy. <BLOCKQUOTE>quote:<HR>Originally posted by keithstg: Your personal jibes aside, I personally find Bono to be a sanctimonious prat. I am entitled to that opinion, as well as the opinion that when compared to the 150 other individuals and organizations nominated, Bono does not pass muster.<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>
Title: Re: Bono Nominated for Nobel Peace Prize
Post by: Henry Dark on February 20, 2003, 12:09:00 pm: Well said, Vansmack. <BLOCKQUOTE>quote:<HR>Originally posted by vansmack: He couldn't write the check himself so he went on the campaign.I suppose he could have sat back on his ass, bought some cars and some big TV's, fattened his crib and waited for MTV to come knocking so he could promote himself on MTV Cribs couldn't he?But he didn't. He championed world leaders to reduce the money they were owed by developing countries so that the money could be put to better use in the country.I understand that a lot of you hate everything popular and have issues with Bono's ego, but discount what he did. He has gone further than most before him to reduce the debt of third world countries. A plethora of some of the most brilliant minds in the world have complemented Bono for knowing his stuff - he's not just using his fame, he's doing his homework too. <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>
Title: Re: Bono Nominated for Nobel Peace Prize
Post by: keithstg on February 20, 2003, 12:10:00 pm: Boy? You must be kidding.
Title: Re: Bono Nominated for Nobel Peace Prize
Post by: Henry Dark on February 20, 2003, 12:11:00 pm: Most of us have full time jobs. Some of us even go to school on top of that. Bono does not have a full time job. He's a rock musician successful enough to cut a record and make millions off of it. Thus, he has the time and energy to spare. <BLOCKQUOTE>quote:<HR>Originally posted by Relaxer: So how much money do you contribute? How much of your time do you spend on issues that do not benefit yourself? How many truly important global issues have you elevated beyond yourself to your community (whether it be your family, neighborhood or city)? <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>
Title: Re: Bono Nominated for Nobel Peace Prize
Post by: keithstg on February 20, 2003, 12:12:00 pm: In any event - I respect the pro Bono opinions expressed, but disagree. We'll see what happens - until then I'll just leave it alone...
Title: Re: Bono Nominated for Nobel Peace Prize
Post by: ggw on February 20, 2003, 12:57:00 pm: <BLOCKQUOTE>quote:<HR>Originally posted by Henry Dark: What the hell is a sanctimonious prat? Speak American, boy. <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>Look in the mirror, Hank.
Title: Re: Bono Nominated for Nobel Peace Prize
Post by: Relaxer on February 20, 2003, 06:24:00 pm: <BLOCKQUOTE>quote:<HR>Originally posted by Henry Dark: Most of us have full time jobs. Some of us even go to school on top of that. Bono does not have a full time job. He's a rock musician successful enough to cut a record and make millions off of it. Thus, he has the time and energy to spare. <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>Yeah, being a professional musician is soooo easy. Just ask the Samples how easy it is. When it comes down to it, Bono is the same as any very successful businessman. He spent decades working fulltime-plus on his career/craft. His many, many years of long and hard work paid off and now he's in a position where he can work as much as he wants. Bill Gates did the same thing. Spent a couple decades building an extremely successful business and now works as much as he wants (and donates hundreds of millions of dollars every year). Richard Branson, Jack Welch, Larry Ellison, same thing. And what public service efforts leap to mind when you think of those guys? As for other musicians, how often do you see Keith Richards or Paul McCartney or Eric Clapton getting so involved? Sure, they do a fundraiser every now and then, but do you really think David Bowie is willing to extensively put his energy and effort into eliminating debt in third world countries? Everyone has his or her opinion. It's just difficult for me to hear people prattle on mindlessly about how useless Bono's work has been.
Title: Re: Bono Nominated for Nobel Peace Prize
Post by: poorlulu on February 21, 2003, 01:30:00 pm: i knew it dubya dreams of big fleecy sheep.............baaaaaaacome on paige where are you now we need ya?
Title: Re: Bono Nominated for Nobel Peace Prize
Post by: paige on February 21, 2003, 01:44:00 pm: <BLOCKQUOTE>quote:<HR>Originally posted by poorlulu: i knew it dubya dreams of big fleecy sheep.............baaaaaaacome on paige where are you now we need ya?<HR></BLOCKQUOTE> bahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh
Title: Re: Bono Nominated for Nobel Peace Prize
Post by: vickSka241 on February 21, 2003, 03:12:00 pm: I'm with vansmack... Bono could've done far less productive things with his money and time. Go Bono!
Title: Re: Bono Nominated for Nobel Peace Prize
Post by: myuman on February 21, 2003, 04:00:00 pm: <BLOCKQUOTE>quote:<HR>Originally posted by vickSka241: Bono could've done far less productive things with his money and time. Go Bono!<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>I agree completely.... I disagree with most of his philosophy, but he is certainly passionate.
Title: Re: Bono Nominated for Nobel Peace Prize
Post by: Henry Dark on February 24, 2003, 04:39:00 pm: <A HREF="http://www.wfmu.org/" TARGET=_blank>http://www.wfmu.org/[/url] The Bono soundbite of the day...too bad it won't play for me here at work...