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=> GENERAL DISCUSSION => Topic started by: kosmo vinyl on August 25, 2005, 11:37:00 am
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Will this be the Gig of the year? Everyone's gonna be out in full force for this one. Right? Supposedly there will be some special mosh pit area created for this show.
With all that said, I'm DJing 932 that evening. Swagger The Musical will be in full effect. So 932 will be a rockin, so please come a knockin. And tip your bartenders well...
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:( I would love to go to this, even more so with the great 9:32 news. Can't do it; work responsibilities. BOOOOOO!!!!!!!!
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You guys enjoy the show, rock out, and Kosmo - please keep an eye on my wife. :)
I have the honour and pleasure of spending next week in Columbus, OH for work. Which is why someone else will be playing the role of stand-in husband for the show. Oh, lucky me.
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I'll be there in Row K. Been looking forward to this one for months!
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How can I miss The Best Band on the Planet (http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20050825/ap_en_mu/people_green_day)?
I'll be rockin' out on the lawn.
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I'll be there, too, on the lawn. Only my 2nd Green Day show following the first time around at Lollapalooza in WV, when was that, 10 years ago? Might be a rainy stormy night, though, on Tuesday. That hurricane remnant will be in the VA-MD region on Tuesday. Break out your wellies ...
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I'll be in the pit-anyone else?
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Originally posted by kiminmd:
I'll be in the pit-anyone else?
See you there!
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Originally posted by This Is My Name:
Originally posted by kiminmd:
I'll be in the pit-anyone else?
See you there! [/b]
Same here.
Where is the "I'm only going because I got free tickets" crowd?
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Originally posted by eros:
Originally posted by This Is My Name:
Originally posted by kiminmd:
I'll be in the pit-anyone else?
See you there! [/b]
Same here.
Where is the "I'm only going because I got free tickets" crowd? [/b]
I mosh heavy and I mosh like super fast. You have been warned.
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15,000 other people will disagree with me on this, but Green Day were a letdown.... This is the fourth time I've seen them live and it's been the same each time. For 30 to 45 minutes they'll rip through a set of their A-list material, then Billie Joe feels the need to entertain with his verbal diarrhea.
Last night it was several songs from the nicely done "American Idiot" album capped off with "Longview". At one point I was thinking this was show that would have been worth paying for. But, then it was on to introducing the band again and the horrid Operation Ivy cover.
Why a band thats "Been together for 16.5 years" can't do a explosive 90 minute set of blistering pop/rock/punk songs straight through without the blather and filler is beyond me. The bringing up of fans to play on stage is a nice touch, but save it for the encore. Otherwise the show loses momentum. Interacting with the crowd is cool, but can also be over done...
Jimmy Eat World on the other hand did a great 35 minute set of cranked up versions of thier bread and butter songs. I enjoyed it, but you know some kid in the pit was hollering for a Spanish b-side...
Best t-shirt of the evening was the Sham 69 one, worn by some kids mother who must have dug it out of the back of her closet for the show.
932 DJ setlist on it's way.
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The show was entertaining, but I agree that Green Day was too long on gimmickry and too short on music.
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I did not attend last night, but I've seen Green Day twice in recent years (and once back at Lolla), and they did the exact same "act" every time, right down to bringing the kids up and all that stuff, same pyro, same backdrops - and these tours were years apart. And it's funny, everyone who goes to Green Day and tells me what it's like gives the exact same story. Must be boring doing the same thing 8000 times.
Plus American Idiot sucks.
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I had fun.
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Originally posted by xxsorachikaraxx:
I had fun.
Same Here.
That's the test for me. Plus, bought a cool hat. Always a plus.
Not going to Green Day for the musicianship, going for the sweat and spectacle.
The Jimmy opening set was good too. Like Kosmo said, "greatest hits" stuff, but I like that better than the opening act trying to school me on their varied discography.
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definitely agree. major letdown. Same exact set as October except for Maria. They could have easily played 10 more songs. They waste too much time not only between songs but also during songs. Awful crowd, they didn't even know who JEW was and all the bandwagon American Idiot teeny boppers didn't even know the words to the Dookie songs.
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Don't get me wrong up until about mid way through the show I was enjoying myself... Spectacals and Potty Mouths should be save for artists whose material dosen't measure up i.e. Kiss
The Pixies and Pearl Jam certainly didn't need flash and fire pots to energize the crowd, thats what Kid Rock needs. I keep hoping that Green Day will some day drop the over grown juvenile act and just play like their heroes The Ramones and The Clash did. Save the theatrics for the encore if one must.
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Originally posted by sweet:
all the bandwagon American Idiot teeny boppers didn't even know the words to the Dookie songs.
that really scares me that knowing the words to "dookie" is the test of a real green day fan now ... i'm old ...
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Originally posted by kosmo vinyl:
Why a band thats "Been together for 16.5 years" can't do a explosive 90 minute set of blistering pop/rock/punk songs straight through without the blather and filler is beyond me.
The Offspring have made a career of it....
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Originally posted by HoyaParanoia:
that really scares me that knowing the words to "dookie" is the test of a real green day fan now ... i'm old ...
I think the point was the reverse -- that if you don't even know the words to dookie, well, ????
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Originally posted by Bags:
I think the point was the reverse -- that if you don't even know the words to dookie, well, ????
i know, i don't think i articulated well enough ... it just amazes me that someone wouldn't know every-fucking-word to at least the big singles off that album ... seems like it was inescapable for years ...
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and also it kind of cracked me up that "dookie" was pointed to by their hardcore fans and punks in general at the time as a complete sell-out, but now people are being ridiculed for not knowing it
funny how things change over 10 years
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in a way, it's nice to see that other's saw the show the same way I did, instead of just blindly saying "it was great", like the local radio station....besides the show being short on songs and long on other stuff, I could have put up with all that if there would have least been decent sound in the pit area....the sound there was terrible, went over our heads and past us....all we got was echoes, nothing was pointed at us, at least in the center...the sides may have been better under the hanging stacks, but I couldn't move over to find out....if nothing else, I learned my lesson about being in the pit if I actually want to hear the music I'm seeing....
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Originally posted by Kubacheck:
hear the music I'm seeing....
Whoa. There's an ad campaign in there somewhere, I'm just not sure for what.
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Originally posted by vansmack:
Originally posted by Kubacheck:
hear the music I'm seeing....
Whoa. There's an ad campaign in there somewhere, I'm just not sure for what. [/b]
maybe an ad campaign for some monitors for the friggin' pit....
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They didn't play any really old stuff from 39/smooth or kerplunk did they?
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September 3, 2005
Now a Band That It Once Would Parody
By JON PARELES
The New York Times
EAST RUTHERFORD, N.J., Sept. 1 - The concert at Giants Stadium tonight was every bit a stadium concert, reveling in big-event shtick. The headliner arrived to the "Also Sprach Zarathustra" fanfare; there were smoke machines, explosions, sing-alongs, confetti, lighters held aloft and, of course, the Wave. The lead singer shouted "New Jersey!" on any plausible occasion and proudly announced that it was the biggest show the band had ever played in America.
The odd thing was that the headliner was Green Day, a band that came out of the punk clubs of the San Francisco Bay Area in the late 1980's. Punk, of course, had arrived a decade earlier as a corrective to bloated 1970's stadium rock. The three-man Green Day always had a sense of melody, as well as more outright virtuosity than a typical punk band, and in the mid-1990's it fulfilled the long-delayed promise that punk rock could triumph in the pop Top 10. For all it owed to the Ramones and California punk-pop bands like the Adolescents, Green Day also had its own twists, like the swing-band beat of "Longview."
Green Day's most recent album, "American Idiot" (Reprise), is nothing less than a rock opera, with music that has no use for punk-rock orthodoxy. After its punk-speed title song, it reaches back to glam rock, Merseybeat and the rock suites that bands like the Who and the Beatles came up with in the late 1960's. It also has tuneful, expansive ballads - "Wake Me Up When September Ends" and "Boulevard of Broken Dreams" - that were more than ready for the cellphone-illuminated sing-alongs they got tonight. But the songs maintain the point of view Green Day started with in the late 1980's: disgust with authority - particularly what "American Idiot" calls the "redneck agenda" - and sympathy for outcasts.
Onstage, Green Day's lead singer and guitarist, Billie Joe Armstrong, wore two armbands: "Rage" on his right arm and "Love" on his left, echoing lyrics from the album. And Green Day started the concert by playing through most of the album's first half, with all its variety and instrumental episodes. To perform the new songs, Green Day added three musicians onstage, playing guitar, horns and keyboards, along with its versatile, tireless rhythm section of Mike Dirnt on bass and Tré Cool on drums.
But rather than finish out the album's dramatic arc, Green Day then chose to play at being a stadium band. Mr. Armstrong bounded across the stage and onto a runway into the audience, using every frontman tactic from Chuck Berry's duckwalk to rappers' crotch-grabbing; sometimes freed of his guitar, he could use his arms and microphone to gesticulate.
There were long stretches between older hits, including "Longview" and "Basket Case," and old authority-tweaking songs, like "Minority." Mr. Armstrong used them to coax applause and boos from each side of the stadium - the fans didn't mind accepting his authority - and for one stretch he went into a soul medley complete with a parody of James Brown's collapse-and-cape routine. One of Green Day's longtime concert routines - bringing three audience members onstage to be a band - discovered a woman who not only knew her chords, but also did her own stadium strut and leaped off the drum riser for a finale.
Mr. Armstrong pleased most of the audience; he has timing, charisma and plenty of eyeliner, and he's not afraid to sweat. The fans know their stadium cues as well as he does, and they yelled all they could. But what may have been a fond parody of rock excess started to turn into, well, a stadium concert, complete with a full-length version of Queen's "We Are the Champions," which has a very un-Green Day sentiment: "No time for losers."
Standard punk was made for clubs, not stadiums, and a full set of three-minute punk blasts wouldn't suit the band or the place. But Green Day's own catalog of songs include such diverse material - as Mr. Armstrong proved with a final, solo version of the folky "Good Riddance (Time of Your Life)," intermittently revving up for punk guitar strumming - that the band could have played a stadium concert with far less filler.
Sharing the bill were two bands that represented the convoluted, self-conscious, latter-day punk-pop known as emo. Jimmy Eat World's songs switch between self-help advice and mixed emotions, mirrored in song structures that knock together idioms, like major-key punk-pop colliding with grunge. Against Me, which opened the concert, has a singer who blurts personal ambivalences and political grievances in an accusatory punk rasp. Around him, however, the music often sidesteps punk, reaching back to muscular, midtempo 1970's rock instead. The band treated the stadium as a larger club, not yet a format all its own.
Green Day performs tonightat Gillette Stadium in Boston. Its North American tour concludes on Oct. 9 in Carson, Calif., after stops that include Philadelphia on Wednesday and Hartford on Friday.
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