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=> GENERAL DISCUSSION => Topic started by: kurosawa-b/w on February 25, 2003, 11:42:00 am

Title: Soledad Brothers
Post by: kurosawa-b/w on February 25, 2003, 11:42:00 am
Megs and I are going to the Soledads show tonight. Anyone else?
Title: Re: Soledad Brothers
Post by: Relaxer on February 25, 2003, 12:04:00 pm
I'm aiming for it. Have no idea what they sound like, but they get mentioned alongside a lot of good bands. Plus the drummer is dating Meg White. Good enough for me!
Title: Re: Soledad Brothers
Post by: walkman on February 25, 2003, 07:46:00 pm
They're terrific live (saw 'em open for the Stripes).  (Relaxer: two piece blues-rock band..heard that before?)  I canna go tonight, though, so megs and kurosawa, please rock out extra hard for me.
Title: Re: Soledad Brothers
Post by: megs on February 25, 2003, 07:53:00 pm
<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Arial, Veranda">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by walkman:<BR><B>They're terrific live (saw 'em open for the Stripes).  (Relaxer: two piece blues-rock band..heard that before?)  I canna go tonight, though, so megs and kurosawa, please rock out extra hard for me.</B><HR></BLOCKQUOTE><P>we'll do our best, walkman  (http://www.930.com/ubb/smile.gif)
Title: Re: Soledad Brothers
Post by: kurosawa-b/w on February 26, 2003, 03:24:00 pm
Just to follow up, it was a great (though short) show. The addition of Oliver Henry on guitar and sax adds so much. If you saw them as a two-piece, I think you would be really surprised at how full (and more rounded) the sound is now. They basically jammed the whole time with heavy blues rock. I loved it. (And yes, Walkman, we rocked out.) I think I prefered the songs with two guitars -though the sax songs were pretty cool. Ben is an incredible drummer, and I am officially envious of Meg White. Oliver is both talented and gorgeous. I also liked the opening band. They are local and are called (Megs, correct me if I'm wrong) The Snuff Project? Retro rock sound and fun.
Title: Re: Soledad Brothers
Post by: megs on February 26, 2003, 06:24:00 pm
ditto to everything kurosawa said. i would have shaken it with the best of them, but i was strangely mesmerized by the loveliness of oliver henry. but i did manage to notice how super fabulous the soledad brothers are. i feel very lucky to have seen them in the backstage of the 'cat with a handful of other lucky people. anytime anyone gets the chance to see them, do! oh, and kurosawa my darling you were so right. the opening band was the snuff project, and they too were fantastic! what a night!  (http://www.930.com/ubb/smile.gif)
Title: Re: Soledad Brothers
Post by: walkman on February 26, 2003, 07:38:00 pm
I'm intensely jealous.  And fuck the whole "being straight" thing...Ben IS hot.<P>And a great drummer.<P>Whatever.<P>Gimme back my wig!<P>
Title: Re: Soledad Brothers
Post by: pluginbaby on February 26, 2003, 07:54:00 pm
i wanted to check them out after hearing how good they were but i missed the show  (http://www.930.com/ubb/frown.gif) can anyone tell me how the name is promounced? is it like soul-dad brothers?
Title: Re: Soledad Brothers
Post by: walkman on February 26, 2003, 07:59:00 pm
<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Arial, Veranda">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by pluginbaby:<BR><B>is it like soul-dad brothers?</B><HR></BLOCKQUOTE><P>Yup.
Title: Re: Soledad Brothers
Post by: J'Mal on February 26, 2003, 08:29:00 pm
If these are the same guys that opened up for hope sandoval, they sucked.
Title: Re: Soledad Brothers
Post by: walkman on February 26, 2003, 08:34:00 pm
Re: opening and sucking.<P>They did.  And, although I wasn't there, I'd be shocked if they did.
Title: Re: Soledad Brothers
Post by: ggw on February 26, 2003, 08:36:00 pm
<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Arial, Veranda">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by pluginbaby:<BR><B>i wanted to check them out after hearing how good they were but i missed the show   (http://www.930.com/ubb/frown.gif) can anyone tell me how the name is promounced? is it like soul-dad brothers?</B><HR></BLOCKQUOTE><P>A California guard, rated as an expert marksman, opened the decade of the 70's with the January 13th shooting at close range of W.L. Nolen, Cleveland Edwards, and Alvin "Jug" Miller in the Soledad prison yard. They were left lying where they fell until it was too late for them to be saved by medical treatment. Nolen, in particular, had been instrumental in organizing protest of guard killings of two other Black prisoners - Clarence Causey and William Powell - at Soledad in the recent past, and was consequently both a thorn in the side of prison officials and a hero to the Black prison population. When the guard was exonerated of the triple killings two weeks later by a Board of Inquiry, the prisoners retaliated by throwing a guard off the tier. George Jackson, Fleeta Drumgo, and John Cluchette were charged with the guard's death and came to be known as the Soledad Brothers. California Black prisoners solidified around the chain of events in the Soledad Brothers case and formed the Black Guerrilla Family (BGF). The Panthers spearheaded a massive campaign to save the Soledad Brothers from the gas chamber. The nationwide coalescence of prisoners and support groups around the case converted the scattered, disparate prison struggles into a national prison movement.
Title: Re: Soledad Brothers
Post by: walkman on February 26, 2003, 08:41:00 pm
ahh...I definitely feel worse about their appropriations of classic blues riffs after reading that.  Anybody remember Blueshammer in Ghost World?<P>"Got them cotton pickin' bluuuueess, yeah!"
Title: Re: Soledad Brothers
Post by: J'Mal on February 26, 2003, 09:26:00 pm
<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Arial, Veranda">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by walkman:<BR><B>Re: opening and sucking.<P>They did.  And, although I wasn't there, I'd be shocked if they did.</B><HR></BLOCKQUOTE><P>guilty as charged.  it seemed like they didn't really know how to play their instruments.  below average bar band and totally not with the hope sandoval vibe.  if i remember correctly, the bass was canned, too. not surprised it's linked with the white stripes, another untalented pair.<P>
Title: Re: Soledad Brothers
Post by: walkman on February 26, 2003, 09:37:00 pm
<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Arial, Veranda">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by J'Mal:<BR><B> guilty as charged.  it seemed like they didn't really know how to play their instruments.  below average bar band and totally not with the hope sandoval vibe.  if i remember correctly, the bass was canned, too. not surprised it's linked with the white stripes, another untalented pair.<BR></B><HR></BLOCKQUOTE><P>In which case, I have no hope that our points of view shall ever meet.  However, I do agree with you that never in a million years would I put Hope Sandoval on the same bill as a blues-punk two-piece from Detroit.  Que?<P>
Title: Re: Soledad Brothers
Post by: megs on February 26, 2003, 09:40:00 pm
and i cannot imagine the soledad brothers sucking. i've only seen them since they picked up a third brother, mind, so maybe they were less fabulous before oliver?! (though surely this isn't the case...)
Title: Re: Soledad Brothers
Post by: pluginbaby on February 26, 2003, 11:01:00 pm
GGW, thanks for that bit of interesting historical info. kinda cool when a bands name actually means something significant.
Title: Re: Soledad Brothers
Post by: ggw on February 26, 2003, 11:14:00 pm
<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Arial, Veranda">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by pluginbaby:<BR><B>GGW, thanks for that bit of interesting historical info. kinda cool when a bands name actually means something significant.</B><HR></BLOCKQUOTE><P>Read all about it:<P> (http://www.leftbooks.com/online-store/scstore/graphics/soledadbrother.jpg)
Title: Re: Soledad Brothers
Post by: kurosawa-b/w on February 28, 2003, 12:17:00 pm
The review from the Washington Post:<P>Soledad Brothers At the Black Cat<P>"We preach the blues every night and every day" is how lead guitarist and singer Johnny Walker described his band from the Black Cat's backstage Tuesday night. But the Soledad Brothers didn't crawl out of the Mississippi Delta; the gritty trio actually sprang from the same Detroit scene as the White Stripes. Having formal connections to Jack White (he produced their debut album) and legendary Detroit rabble-rouser John Sinclair (he wrote gushing liner notes for it) doesn't mean the Soledads sound just like the Stripes or the MC5, however. Their 45-minute set Tuesday was thick with speedy gutbucket blues.<P>Driven by drummer Benjamin Swank, who pounded his three-drum, two-cymbal kit with nonstop adrenaline, Walker and Oliver Henry twisted their guitars around blues structures that aimed for a combination of John Lee Hooker's snake-moan and the Rolling Stones circa "Exile on Main Street." Despite the fact that Walker sings with a high, wavering lilt, the trio's blues were raw and convincing, and the waves of warm guitar distortion on songs like "Break 'em on Down" growled powerfully.<P>The Soledad Brothers are supposedly named for the California prison in which members of the Black Panther Party were incarcerated in the 1960s and '70s, but the trio's music contained nary a whiff of politics. In fact, if the Soledads' manifesto isn't the blues, it might well be the musical anarchy of Michigan's favorite sons, the Stooges. That band's essence wafted into the room when Henry strapped on a saxophone, closing a fine set with a staggering number that ended up like Iggy and company's "L.A. Blues."<P>-- Patrick Foster <P>