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=> GENERAL DISCUSSION => Topic started by: Brian_Wallace on September 12, 2007, 08:15:00 am
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Originally posted by Relaxer:
Too bad we can't have an online trivia contest. You'd just look up the answers on the internets.
No, wikipeding the answers!
1. Maybe in homage to the Smiths (who, of the seventeen singles they released while a functioning band, released EIGHT non-studio album singles), Blur, Oasis, Suede and Elastica all released non-album singles that to this day aren't on any UK studio or band compilation album. What were they?
Brian
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The only one I think I know is Oasis - Whatever.
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Originally posted by Brian Wallace:
Originally posted by Relaxer:
Too bad we can't have an online trivia contest. You'd just look up the answers on the internets.
No, wikipeding the answers!
1. Maybe in homage to the Smiths (who, of the seventeen singles they released while a functioning band, released EIGHT non-studio album singles), Blur, Oasis, Suede and Elastica all released non-album singles that to this day aren't on any UK studio or band compilation album. What were they?
Brian [/b]
I think Blur's Popscene was intended only as a single, but it's on the US version of Modern Life.
As for Suede, my first thought was Stay Together, but I'm pretty sure that's on the Singles comp. So I don't can't think of it.
I don't really give a shit about Elastica, so no idea there.
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Originally posted by Relaxer:
As for Suede, my first thought was Stay Together, but I'm pretty sure that's on the Singles comp. So I don't can't think of it.
I don't really give a shit about Elastica, so no idea there.
Darn it! I forgot about "Singles." That comp was never released over here. You're right. "Stay Together" was the one I was thinking of.
Brian
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Originally posted by Brian Wallace:
Originally posted by Relaxer:
As for Suede, my first thought was Stay Together, but I'm pretty sure that's on the Singles comp. So I don't can't think of it.
I don't really give a shit about Elastica, so no idea there.
Darn it! I forgot about "Singles." That comp was never released over here. You're right. "Stay Together" was the one I was thinking of.
Brian [/b]
Fair point, I don't think Singles was released here.
Here's one: who had the #1 single in the UK the week before Blur and Oasis squared off for their Britpop fight of the century.
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Originally posted by Relaxer:
Fair point, I don't think Singles was released here.
Here's one: who had the #1 single in the UK the week before Blur and Oasis squared off for their Britpop fight of the century.
I DO know what song Oasis's first number ("Some Might Say") knocked off. "Back for Good" by Take That. I know that because Noel Gallagher made some comment about Gary Barlow being a good songwriter and how "the kids" bought a great song one week and then bought another great one ("Some Might Say") the next. That was the only minor hit Take That ever had in America. "Back for Good."
I'm just guessing it's probably some Michael Jackson or Robson & Jerome song.
Here's another one for you: Even though they both seem like they last three days, which single is longer "Stay Together" by Suede or "All Around The World" by Oasis?
Brian
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Originally posted by Brian Wallace:
Originally posted by Relaxer:
Fair point, I don't think Singles was released here.
Here's one: who had the #1 single in the UK the week before Blur and Oasis squared off for their Britpop fight of the century.
I DO know what song Oasis's first number ("Some Might Say") knocked off. "Back for Good" by Take That. I know that because Noel Gallagher made some comment about Gary Barlow being a good songwriter and how "the kids" bought a great song one week and then bought another great one ("Some Might Say") the next. That was the only minor hit Take That ever had in America. "Back for Good."
I'm just guessing it's probably some Michael Jackson or Robson & Jerome song.
Here's another one for you: Even though they both seem like they last three days, which single is longer "Stay Together" by Suede or "All Around The World" by Oasis?
Brian [/b]
Actually, the answer to my question is also Take That. I don't know why I know that, I just do.
Between those two songs you mentioned, my guess would be that All Around the World is longer, but I'm kind of pulling that out of my aaaaass.
What band was Noel Gallagher's first signing to his vanity record label. And for good measure, what was that label called?
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I believe the label is Big Brother, but I'm not sure of the band.
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No, no. The label was Sour Mash and the band was.....Ugh! I'm trying to remember... They were AWFUL, though. Just bad, loud, Noelrock...
Brian
P.S. Both are longer than "American Pie" but "Stay Together" is 8:29 and "All Around The World" clocks in at 9:20. Ah, the smell of cocaine...
P.P.S. Not really a trivia question, but since most people consider "Stay Together" the song that broke up Anderson and Butler, what is ironic/coincidental about the first single Bernard Butler released and the first Suede track that Bernard Butler didn't play on (after he quit.)
P.P.S. All I'm coming up with is Smaller and Pusherman but I know neither of those were the band.
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Originally posted by Brian Wallace:
No, no. The label was Sour Mash and the band was.....Ugh! I'm trying to remember... They were AWFUL, though. Just bad, loud, Noelrock...
P.P.S. Not really a trivia question, but since most people consider "Stay Together" the song that broke up Anderson and Butler, what is ironic/coincidental about the first single Bernard Butler released and the first Suede track that Bernard Butler didn't play on (after he quit.)
The band was Proud Mary and I'm proud to own it, Mary. It really is pretty generic.
As for the Butler/Suede irony, that I can't tell you. I remember Butler joined up with McAlmont to snag a #1 single with 'Yes' but I don't know the first non-Butler Suede track. Is it called 'No'?
What was the name of Noel's house during the height of Britpop?
Brian
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The most disappointing part of this thread is that Relaxer has stopped signing all of his posts "Brian."
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Originally posted by ggwâ?¢:
The most disappointing part of this thread is that Relaxer has stopped signing all of his posts "Brian."
Damn, I totally forgot. Oh well, that had played out anyway.
GGW
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Originally posted by Relaxer:
The band was Proud Mary and I'm proud to own it, Mary. It really is pretty generic.
As for the Butler/Suede irony, that I can't tell you. I remember Butler joined up with McAlmont to snag a #1 single with 'Yes' but I don't know the first non-Butler Suede track. Is it called 'No'?
What was the name of Noel's house during the height of Britpop?
Brian
Ah, Proud Mary. That was it.
Bernard Butler's first single was called "Stay." The first Richard Oakes track (on the B-side of "New Generation") was called "Together."
Here's one. What is the significance of the titles: "England vs. America", "Soft Porn" and "London"?
Brian
P.S. That's easy. "Supernova Heights."
P.P.S. Name any two of the artists that opened for Oasis at Knebworth.
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Originally posted by Brian Wallace:
Here's one. What is the significance of the titles: "England vs. America", "Soft Porn" and "London"?
Brian
P.S. That's easy. "Supernova Heights."
P.P.S. Name any two of the artists that opened for Oasis at Knebworth.
Among Knebworth openers were Prodigy and the Manic Street Preachers.
Not sure what the link is between the terms you dropped. I know Luke Haines has a song called England vs. America, but haven't heard of the others. So is the connection that they're all Haines songs?
Sweetsmell
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Originally posted by ggwâ?¢:
The most disappointing part of this thread is that Relaxer has stopped signing all of his posts "Brian."
i am confused that the guy who champions Fall Out Boy / MCR and god knows who else is now the king of brit pop trivia????
:eek:
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i find it more amusing that nearly all the posts on this trivia are about oasis (with a mention here and there of some other huge britpop artist).
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Anybody going to see Nick Lowe at the Birchmere?
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Noel's house was called "Supernova Heights" and he also drummed for a band who never saw the light of day called Tailgunner...
MAD FER IT!@
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What is the significance of the titles: "England vs. America", "Soft Porn" and "London"?
They were the among the working titles for Blur's "Life" trilogy (respectively):
"England vs. America" = "Modern Life is Rubbish"
"Soft Porn" = "Parklife"
"London" = "The Great Escape"
Even better, the working title for Blur's "13"?
"When You're Walking Backwards To Hell, No One Can See You, Only God"
That's a GREAT title.
Brian
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Who played drums on Suede's first single "Art/Be My God"?
Brian
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Originally posted by Brian Wallace:
Who played drums on Suede's first single "Art/Be My God"?
Your mom?
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Blur may have released better records than this one, but it's still the one I listen to the most:
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I know that maybe these records don't qualify as "Britpop", but I was just telling Bags the other night how much I still enjoy all these records even now.
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you rock bearman! :) i was waiting for a posting from you that would include something about the inspirals and neds. those are some brilliant albums! I love the blank stares i get when i wear my 'kill your television' shirt. the bands are usually the ones to recognize it, and sometimes comment on it :)
oh btw - arent the charlies supposed to be touring soon? i thought i heard that from a friend in scotland, but cant be sure of that.
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and id add this album to your list.
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Thanks xneverwherex! God I miss Inspiral Carpets. Definitely one of my favorite bands of all time, they wrote some great tunes and put on some of the very best shows I've ever seen. Their show in 1991 I saw is still the most pychedelic thing I've ever seen.
Definitely House of Love, and these two:
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yup catherine wheel has good stuff. was going to add that but getting slammed with work. i saw catherine wheel only once, and it was amazing. hearing 'black metallic' live was near incredible.
i never got to see the inspirals nor most those bands unfortunately. id have killed to have seen the house of love. ill add more if i think of them when i have more time.
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Originally posted by Brian Wallace:
Who played drums on Suede's first single "Art/Be My God"?
Brian
My kneejerk on this was Justine, but... I feel like it was like someone else. I'm blanking on it. Mike Joyce? Actually, now that I've written it, I think that's right. He was going to be in the band for awhile, but Brett decided he would be the elephant in the room.
What are the first words Damon Albarn said to Graham Coxon?
And to keep the Oasis love alive, two people who have been in Oasis were in an earlier band together. Who were they and what was the band?
jadetree
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I saw all of those bands put on some tremendous shows. Carter USM in particular was always consistent, when I first saw them in 1992 they had a wild light show.
The Charlatans were always awesome too, way better than the trainwreck that is the Happy Mondays. I got to see the Stone Roses twice, the first time was at WUST and it was great. Saw them a few days later at a festival thing in Chicago and Ian Brown couldn't hit a note to save his life.
Ned's Atomic Dustbin were great, but there were always some knuckleheads at their shows for some reason, not sure why. I never got to see Ride, which I was bummed about. They played with Lush back in 1990 I think and that would have really been a great time to see them. The Soup Dragons and James were OK, but to me Catherine Wheel was really something. I'll never forget seeing them blow INXS off the stage, then a couple weeks later at the HFS Nutcracker thing they played AFTER Tony Bennett and did a full electric set. The band left the stage at one point, Rob played "Wish You Were Here" and then went right into "Black Metallic", which was totally sublime. Sigh.
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damn i love reading those stories. too bad i missed out on seeing the inspirals. i did manage to catch carter USM in high school with EMF. they were playing at a gym at UC Davis. I dont know if they went to SF, but since I was in HS i couldnt get into the clubs. but i just remember it being pure insanity when both the bands played.
love seeing the charlies. i remember seeing them with the dandy warhols, and that was one of the best shows ever. 2 of my favorite bands = heaven.
ok i have so much work, but feel free to share those stories. i def enjoy them. :) did you ever see the house of love?
oh never saw ride either but saw andy play with squire in hurricane #1. or was that the seahorses. im sure i mixed up a bunch of bands and members, but i saw both of them actually :)
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Originally posted by Relaxer:
Originally posted by Brian Wallace:
Who played drums on Suede's first single "Art/Be My God"?
Brian
My kneejerk on this was Justine, but... I feel like it was like someone else. I'm blanking on it. Mike Joyce? Actually, now that I've written it, I think that's right. He was going to be in the band for awhile, but Brett decided he would be the elephant in the room.
What are the first words Damon Albarn said to Graham Coxon?
And to keep the Oasis love alive, two people who have been in Oasis were in an earlier band together. Who were they and what was the band?
jadetree [/b]
Yes, Mike Joyce. I remember when I saw Elastica at the old 9:30 club Justine telling me that that single was going for about a hundred pounds with all the Suede/Elastica hype. She had a box of them that she just threw out.
When Damon and Graham were students, the Jam were popular and a lot of students aped their style. Therefore, Weller-like brogues were popular. Coxon had a knock-off pair on and Damon came up to him and said something to the effect that Graham wasn't wearing the right ones. He (Damon) was wearing the "proper," expensive, "true" brogues. Damon Albarn, Mr. Charm.
Gem Archer was the lead singer in Heavy Stereo and Andy Bell was sort of the Paul Carrick of Britpop. He was in Ride, Northern Uproar and Gay Dad before joing Oasis. Maybe Alan White was in one of those bands. I don't think Bonehead or Guigsy were in any of those bands.
Here's a great trivia question: What is the connection between December 12, 1986, the song "Panic" and Graham Coxon?
Brian
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Here's my ultimate Britpop story. Bear with me, it's one of those bizarre connections that maybe one or two of you might actually appreciate.
I saw Oasis in October 1995 on their first famous aborted U.S. tour (not the one where I witnessed Patsy Kensit blow a gasket), they played Hammerjacks in Baltimore but not DC. It was one of the few dates they did with Scott McLeod since Guigsy was out for a bit. I see a lone photographer in the pit snapping great shots of Liam holding up a Heineken and doing some other stuff. I think "wow, cool shot". I buy a t-shirt with the Union Jack in Irish colors (orange and green instead of blue and red).
Flash forward about 3 years. I am in Chicago, visiting my family. My sister brings over her best friend and her new boyfriend. We start chatting. He was from Ireland, lived in Baltimore, was a photographer for the City Paper, then moved to Chicago. We talk about concerts. He tells me he saw Oasis at Hammerjacks...he also tells me he had a photo pass. We put 2 and 2 together and it turns out that HE was the photographer I saw. My sister's best friend didn't even know him at this point, but they happen to meet by chance in Chicago a few years later. He gives me a cool print of Liam holding up his beer. Weird, I remember the exact moment he had taken the picture, and there it is.
It gets better. 2 years later. I am in Ireland for the wedding of him and my sister's best friend. My sis is the maid of honor. We are in the MIDDLE OF NOWHERE near Kinnity Castle. I am wearing my Oasis shirt with the Irish colors when I go to breakfast one morning. Dolly, the lady who owned the b&b where I was staying, sees me in my shirt and gets all excited. She tells me that Tony McCarroll's mom (first Oasis drummer) lives down the road, and he just happens to be visiting her. She asks me if I want to meet him...she calls him up and 10 minutes later we are having a pint at 11 in the morning, and he is telling me some Oasis stories and raving about Coldplay (who at that point were only just starting to get popular in the UK).
Sorry...xneverwherex, that was for you :)
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great story bearman. i still remember (dont know if you do), but i met you after a concert with another friend of yours. She worked for the govt if that helps any. I think it was after the Erasure show, but I could be off on the show. And you were telling me a story about (I think) Ian of the Stone Roses and meeting/hanging out with him. Anyway somewhere with all my other memories, that one always stuck out.
Thanks for another great one.
-back to the grind i go. too much work :(
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Originally posted by Relaxer:
Originally posted by Brian Wallace:
Brian
And to keep the Oasis love alive, two people who have been in Oasis were in an earlier band together. Who were they and what was the band?
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Wasnt it 'Rain'? Liam and Bonehead?
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Originally posted by beedubyah:
Originally posted by Relaxer:
Originally posted by Brian Wallace:
Brian
And to keep the Oasis love alive, two people who have been in Oasis were in an earlier band together. Who were they and what was the band?
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Wasnt it 'Rain'? Liam and Bonehead? [/b]
The Rain was Oasis before Noel came aboard.
But that's as good an answer as can be, because it turns out I was incorrect. In the late 80s, Gem Archer was the singer for Whirlpool. When they needed a new drummer, a 15-year-old Alan White auditioned. Everyone thought he was great, but they ended up not keeping him on because they thought he was too young.
You got the Damon/Graham line right. I don't know why that's stuck with me, it just has. "Your trainers are crap, mate. Look at mine, they're the proper sort."
And I have no clue what the link is between that date, Panic and Graham Coxon.
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I heartily agree on Ned's Are You Normal. I still pull that out. Great memories of seeing them on their last ever tour in Denver in May of '95. Last except for the one-offs they have been playing the last couple years.
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Save for a few TV appearances (and I think, a brief festival appearance in Spain), for all intents and purposes, the Smiths' final gig was December 12, 1986 at the Brixton Academy. It was a benefit for Artists Against Apartheid.
For their final song (before the encores,) "Panic", Morrissey waved around a noose while singing "Hang the DJ, etc." At the end, he threw it out into the audience. Graham Coxon caught the noose and has it to this day.
Brian
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This may not quite be Britpop as it's much more recent.
Back in october of '05 I was in London and The Duke Spirit announced a secret show at The Social just off Oxford Circus to cap off their "pub tour" they had been doing. I made damn sure I was first queued up for that and as a result was standing right in front of the "stage", if you can call what looked to be a 7 foot by 8 foot platform about 9 inches off the ground a stage. I have no idea how all 5 members of the band mananged to get on there. Leila (lead singer) was rocking out something fierce at one point swinging her mic stand around, and slammed it directly on top of my head. As this was in the middle of the song, she just kept rocking, and I didn't mind. After the song was over, she bent down and held my head between her hands and asked "alright mate?" I assured her I was doing fantastically, and so she stood back up and announced to the rest of the audience that we had had a bit of a "baptism by microphone down the front". As I was leaving the Social after the show she was standing right outside the door talking to some people, recognized me and said "good showing" or something along those lines. Def. should've gotten a pic w/ her at that point or something, but I was playing it cool.
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Haha, that's a great story
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awesome story Arthwys.
heres my story. one of my favorite bands ever (and still to this day) is Gene. They were touring on the West Coast and I had tickets to see them a few nights. I had driven down to San Diego from SF to see them and met my boyfriend in LA (where he lived). We totally messed up the times of the show and so had to go directly to the show, and luckily we did because it was an early show. When we got into the parking lot, we noticed the tour bus and walked over. Martin came out and shook our hands, and he started signing things for us.
During the show I was right in front, and was sitting on the stage (it was a tiny venue and there was hardly any room). During the set he reaches down (having remembered me) and grabs my hand and starts singing to me. But then he doesn't let go of my hand and keeps holding it for more songs. The crowd is going nuts, people are getting pissed, im getting pulled and he's getting very upset with the way everyone is acting. Anyway he finally lets it go. The show ends and we start talking again, and he invites me back to his hotel room. I was with my boyfriend at the time, so I politely declined. Damn probably should have gone back with him, but ... well life goes on.
Too bad they broke up, I'd have pressed my luck again for sure.
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To tie in two of these stories: I went to the Oasis Hammerjacks show and my girlfriend asked Liam afterwards whether he "fancied a shag" and he asked her if she had a condom....
Well, let's just leave the story at that.
Brian
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Originally posted by Brian Wallace:
To tie in two of these stories: I went to the Oasis Hammerjacks show and my girlfriend asked Liam afterwards whether he "fancied a shag" and he asked her if she had a condom....
Well, let's just leave the story at that.
Brian
Did you at least get to watch?
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Originally posted by eros:
Originally posted by Brian Wallace:
To tie in two of these stories: I went to the Oasis Hammerjacks show and my girlfriend asked Liam afterwards whether he "fancied a shag" and he asked her if she had a condom....
Well, let's just leave the story at that.
Brian
Did you at least get to watch? [/b]
It was my job to hold the boombox while "The Beatles: 1967-1970" played on cassette tape.
Brian
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Originally posted by Brian Wallace:
Originally posted by eros:
Originally posted by Brian Wallace:
To tie in two of these stories: I went to the Oasis Hammerjacks show and my girlfriend asked Liam afterwards whether he "fancied a shag" and he asked her if she had a condom....
Well, let's just leave the story at that.
Brian
Did you at least get to watch? [/b]
It was my job to hold the boombox while "The Beatles: 1967-1970" played on cassette tape.
Brian [/b]
When Richard Nixon was courting his future wife, Pat, he would drive her to dates with other men and then drive them to wherever they were going. Which is kind of just like Brian! So that means he'll probably grow up to be president, but be forced to resign in disgrace, and then undergo a post-presidency rehabilitation in Yorba Linda, California. I hear it's nice there.