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Apparently, this list was voted on and released today. Pretty interesting collection. Discuss.
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BELLE & SEBASTIAN REVEALED AS â??BEST SCOTTISH BAND OF ALL TIME' (http://www.list.co.uk/fiftybandsmain.html)
After a three-month public vote, Belle & Sebastian were named as the â??Best Scottish Band Of All Timeâ?? at an exclusive Announcement Party at King Tutâ??s Wah Wah Hut in Glasgow. The prestigious accolade, sponsored by Orange, was announced in front of an invited audience of stars of the Scottish music scene past and present.
Also credited in second and third place were Travis and Idlewild respectively, the latter of which received the news after performing a storming acoustic set to bring the anticipation to a peak before the announcement.
Stuart Murdoch of winners Belle & Sebastian said:
â??We donâ??t think for a moment that we are the best band in Scotland, but we are thrilled to be on a list with some of our favourite artists like Teenage Fanclub and the Cocteau Twins. I think it says more about the fans than it does about us. We have a very loyal fan base. Weâ??re absolutely delighted.â??
We recently published a guide to the â??50 Best Scottish Bands of all Timeâ??, sponsored by Orange, and since then the public have been voting for their favourite Scottish band, whether they were included in our guide or not. There was a massive response with over 12,000 votes counted from both online and texting via Orange.
At the Announcement Party, Scottish artists took to the stage in support of the campaign, playing songs of their own and exclusive Scottish covers. Colin MacIntyre (Mull Historical Society) kicked off proceedings with The Jesus and Mary Chainâ??s â??Some Candy Talkingâ??, followed by Gary Lightbody and Nathan Connolly of Snow Patrol who covered an early Belle & Sebastian song called â??The State That I Am Inâ?? after a very special rendition of their top 5 hit â??Runâ??.
Eugene Kelly (Vaselines) wowed the audience by playing a set of classic and seldom heard live Vaselineâ??s songs, followed by The Proclaimers â??(I would walk) 500 Milesâ?? which had every foot in King Tutâ??s tapping. Then Idlewild whipped the crowd into a frenzy with their version of â??(Donâ??t You) Forget About Meâ?? â??by the classic Simple Minds. In between sets, audio delights were provided by Belle & Sebastianâ??s DJ Richard Colburn who was blissfully unaware of the award they were about to scoop at the event.
Mark Robertson, Music Editor of The List magazine comments:
â??The idea behind the project was simple â?? to rediscover the very best of Scottish music from the finest musical talent spanning from the age of 70â??s rock through to 80â??s pop right up to todayâ??s international stars. Everyone has strong opinions about who they believe deserves this prestigious accolade, and we wanted to open this up to the public to decide. The response was amazing, and we were delighted to be able to unveil the victors at such a special event this evening. Our thanks go to all artists who performed and attended the show, and to all those who worked with us over the course of the three monthsâ??
Pip MacLennan, Scottish PR and Sponsorship Manager, for Orange added:
â??Orange is delighted to have partnered The List in this very exciting project. We are very pleased so many people have voted for their favourite band and at the success of the Announcement Party. Of course we have to have a winner but we hope this has raised the profile of all the bands and the exciting Scottish music scene today.â??
Vic Galloway, presenter of Radio 1 in Scotland and Radio Scotlandâ??s Air, agreed:
â??I have really enjoyed being involved with The List 50 Best Scottish Bands Of All Time. It has given us a chance to look back on Scotlandâ??s consistently colourful musical heritage and to look to the future, through the artists who are currently enjoying international success or who have been cited as â??ones to watch.â?? The debate has been great fun, and weâ??ve been thrilled to bring that debate onto the show over the last three months. The Announcement Party was also a huge success, and remember you can hear exclusive interviews with the performers and guests, together with the live acoustic sets on the Radio 1 and Radio Scotland shows this week!â??
The 50 Best Scottish Bands Of All Time (as voted for by the public) are as follows:
1 Belle & Sebastian
2 Travis
3 Idlewild
4 Wet Wet Wet
5 Sensational Alex Harvey Band
6 Simple Minds
7 Teenage Fanclub
8 Bay City Rollers
9 Primal Scream
10 The Proclaimers
11 Texas
12 Mull historical society
13 Big country
14 Snow Patrol
15 Franz Ferdinand
16 Bis
17 Deacon Blue
18 Fish
19 Jesus and Mary Chain
20 Mogwai
21 Runrig
22 Trash Can Sinatras
23 Del Amitri
24 Orange Juice
25 Nazareth
26 Beta Band
27 Biffy Clyro
28 Altered Images
29 Aztec Camera
30 Eddi Reader
31 Goodbye Mr Mackenzie
32 Fire Engines
33 Delgados
34 Arab strap
35 Vaselines
36 Associates
37 The Pastels
38 Eurythmics
39 Aereogramme
40 Blue Nile
41 Boards of Canada
42 Rezillos
43 Incredible string band
44 Cocteau twins
45 Dogs Die in Hot Cars
46 Spare Snare
47 Average White Band
48 Lulu
49 Skids
50 Shamen
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1. Bay City Rollers
2. The Rezillos
3. Everyone else
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Aren't the Waterboys Scottish?
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1. Lulu
2. Everyone else :D
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Originally posted by kosmo vinyl:
1. Lulu
2. Everyone else :D
wow my 4000st post! and in honor of lulu no less but i have a little catching up to do.
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Stealer's Wheel?
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Arab Strap you fucks.
1. JAMC
2. Arab Strap
3. Idlewild
the only Scottish bands that can really rock.
the rest....suck pretty much.
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2 Travis
19 Jesus and Mary Chain
ha. haha. hahahaha.
lists are fun but almost always incredibly stupid.
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This is a list for those with short memories. I always think that bands that appeared in the last 5 years should not be on any "best ever" list as they could well be fads and have not had time to truly sink in.
7 Teenage Fanclub
9 Primal Scream
19 Jesus and Mary Chain
20 Mogwai
26 Beta Band
WOuld be a good top 5 (no regard to order).
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i'm seeing a bit of west side story going on here between the B&S vs Travis fans... and YIKES it's a good thing boy band Wet Wet Wet aren't active as having them top the list would have been a tad embarrasing dontca think?
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Its an alright list, but with a messed up order.
Were "the only ones" Scottish? If not why did I think they were?
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Were Big Country Scottish? If so they deserve more props.
If they were not Scottish then they were CRAP!
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I'm on the BIS email list and kept getting emails about this....anyone could vote for it, so thats why its in strange order
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What would have made me happy then is if a non-Scotish band (Spice Girls for instance) had won.
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list lacks the sluts of trust. if dogs die in hot cars made the list, sluts of trust should be several numbers ahead.
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Gotta put JAMC at #1 with Tennage Fanclub following close behind.
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Originally posted by Shadrach:
Gotta put JAMC at #1 with Tennage Fanclub following close behind.
I had the same feeling:
1. Jesus and Mary Chain
2. Teenage Fanclub
3. Everyone else
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Originally posted by megs:
list lacks the sluts of trust. if dogs die in hot cars made the list, sluts of trust should be several numbers ahead.
ok you just proved my....... you are completely mentaaaaal theory
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Nazareth at 25!!?? A total outrage! "Hair of the Dog",baby!
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# 1 Mike Scott / The Waterboys
# 2 Teenage Fanclub
# 3 Belle & Sebastian
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When did the Waterboys move to Scotland?
Originally posted by Barcelona:
# 1 Mike Scott / The Waterboys
# 2 Teenage Fanclub
# 3 Belle & Sebastian
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Originally posted by Rhett Miller:
When did the Waterboys move to Scotland?
Originally posted by Barcelona:
# 1 Mike Scott / The Waterboys
# 2 Teenage Fanclub
# 3 Belle & Sebastian
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Mike Scott is from Edinburgh. Maybe The Waterboys are an English band, not a Scottish one. If that was the case, then the top three would still be these:
# 1 Mike Scott
# 2 Teenage Fanclub
# 3 Belle & Sebastian
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If the Incredible String Band made the list, then Donovan (pride of Glasgow) has got to be on there somewhere.
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dogs die in hot cars beat the average white band, wtf?
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It's shocking that in another country an Arts Council would fund music other than classical. Then again the US is blessed with Yellowcard and Hoobastank.
11 Scottish bands to perform at South by South West
10/01/2005
In March 2005, Scotlandâ??s vibrant music scene will once again be showcased on the world stage with 11 bands from across Scotland participating in the South by South West (SXSW) festival in Austin, Texas.
The Scottish acts, which will receive support from the Scottish Arts Council to attend the festival, are Biffy Clyro from Ayrshire; Dogs Die in Hot Cars, Jupiter and Teardrop, Sluts of Trust and Trashcan Sinatras from Glasgow; Dawn of the Replicants, Aberfeldy, The Rezillos, Hobotalk and Idlewild from Edinburgh and Mylo from the Isle of Skye.
SXSW organisers have selected the bands on the basis of their musical talent and proven readiness to sell themselves to an international market. The Scottish artists will have the opportunity to perform and promote themselves to some of the 7,000 music industry delegates from around the world and it is hoped that participating at SXSW will lead to business opportunities in new international markets.
Last year, Mercury Music Prize winner Franz Ferdinand was one of the thirteen Scottish acts that performed at the festival and went on to receive critical acclaim in the US being named as the most influential band of 2004 by US music magazine, Spin.
The 11 bands attending this year already have a strong following in Scotland and the UK and some are being tipped to follow in the footsteps of Franz Ferdinand. Mylo, who will be performing at the MTV showcase at SXSW, has been described by Elton John as one of the most significant acts coming out of the UK in 2004 while many of the other bands in the line up are also receiving critical acclaim across the board. It is hoped that SXSW will act as the springboard for further international success.
As well as live performances by bands from around the world, highlights of the SXSW festival include a conference on issues relating to the global music industry and a tradeshow in which artists can network, promote and connect to the most influential professionals in the business.
Simon Neil of Biffy Clyro says: â??We were unable to perform previously at SXSW due to schedule conflicts, and went to the city last summer to shoot the video for our most recent single, so to finally be able to play the festival, will be fantastic. We're very excited about the opportunity and are looking forward to it as one of the highlights of our year.
â??It is thanks to the on-going support we have been shown by the Scottish Arts Council, that has enabled us to make this trip, which will hopefully play a large part in establishing Biffy Clyro in the USA.â??
As well as funding individual bands to attend SXSW, the Scottish Arts Council, in partnership with representatives from the Scottish music community, will co-ordinate a Scottish presence at the conventionâ??s tradeshow to maximise the opportunities for promoting Scottish music to an international audience.
Leading music promoter, journalist and industry guru Ronnie Gurr is co-ordinating the Scottish presence on behalf of the Scottish Arts Council. Ronnie has worked with international acts ranging from Boy Georgeâ??s Culture Club and the Boomtown Rats to Simple Minds and Stereophonics during his 27 year career in the music industry and amongst other things, he is currently a member of the Scottish Arts Council Performing Arts Committee.
Commenting on this yearâ??s SXSW festival, Ronnie says: â??SXSW is considered to be the biggest music industry networking and showcasing event in the world and this year organisers have once again recognised the valuable contribution being made by Scottish bands to the international music scene by inviting 11 bands to participate.
â??Being invited to perform at the event is only the first step and the Scottish Arts Councilâ??s support will be an invaluable resource for the bands, many of whom would otherwise have struggled to raise the finances. The phenomenal success of Franz Ferdinand in 2004 demonstrates the value that performing at SXSW can have and hopefully, this year, one of our acts will have a similar impact on the international audience.â??
Alex Kapranos of Franz Ferdinand, commenting on last yearâ??s event, says: â??Last yearâ??s South By SouthWest was amazing. There was a big Scottish presence there and that interested a lot of people. Austin is a fantastic music town anyway but the festival itself was very important for us in terms of what weâ??ve gone on to do in America. The funding we got [from the Scottish Arts Council] last year was definitely helpful. Something that is often overlooked is that when bands are starting out, theyâ??re skint. Even when youâ??re successful, it takes a while for the cash flow to get going.
â??So that kind of funding is very important. Itâ??s often overlooked because itâ??s not necessarily a great vote winner but its something thatâ??s very much needed. Often in the hierarchy of arts funding, you find bands are way at the bottom because theyâ??re not taken seriously since theyâ??re not considered â??high artâ?? but what they are is popular or populist art, itâ??s creativity that ordinary people enjoy and can identify with.â??
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what about dexy's midnight runners? such an egregious oversight...
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i didn't think they were scottish........i thought they were from the midlands?....... at least i'm sure kevin is..............
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yup a couple of scousers in the bunch
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Originally posted by poorlulu:
i didn't think they were scottish........i thought they were from the midlands?....... at least i'm sure kevin is..............
yeah...actually, i think they're mostly irish. my bad. too many celtic threads on the forum lately.
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Originally posted by poorlulu:
Originally posted by megs:
list lacks the sluts of trust. if dogs die in hot cars made the list, sluts of trust should be several numbers ahead.
ok you just proved my....... you are completely mentaaaaal theory [/b]
lulu my love. it took this long for you to figure that out?
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I did not realize that the Beta Band was Scottish. I'm delighted to know that now! I think that band is wonderful.
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Originally posted by tO dReAm oF lOvE:
I did not realize that the Beta Band was Scottish. I'm delighted to know that now! I think that band is wonderful.
were wonderful, they are gone now
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Why am I always the last to know stuff? What happened to them?
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Scurvy. They went on tour and didn't eat enough limes.
BTW -- I am fully aware the Scottish aren't called limeys.
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Clarification........Mike Scott is indeed Scottish (poor sod,) the original members of the band are from Scotland, Ireland and England...I think if they had to pick a nationality for the band they would probably say Irish.
How the fuck did wet wet wet ever make it on a list of "best of" in any category??? Well, other that "the best fun you would have kicking them in the nuts" that is.
What about "Orange Juice"...weren't they FRISPS?
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Biffy Clyro gets my vote....god I wish they'd tour the US!!!!! Their shows are insanely fun!
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Originally posted by Renata Tampaks:
Stealer's Wheel?
Hell, yes. Or at least Gerry Rafferty-plus-whoever. That would be a major oversight on an "of all time" list. Just on the basis of popularity, "City to City" probably sold a major fraction of the collective outputs of the entire 50 named. More importantly, "Baker Street" has to make the short list of most haunting pop songs of all time (witness Dave Grohl's worshipful, not to say slavishly faithful cover) and some enterprising minstrel could probably make a serious career out of covering Rafferty tunes that his succession of feckless record companies managed to bury.