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=> GENERAL DISCUSSION => Topic started by: lily1 on August 13, 2004, 11:40:00 am
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greetings, since the olympics opening cremony is tonight, i thought i would get some greek food since i'm working late and won't have time to cook ahead of the show. can anyone recommend good greek places that are in dc, or md, and preferably on the red or green line? i don't need anything fancy. just good quality, flavorful, greek food. price not a problem.
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I love Zorba's, right at Dupont.
The best is the Greek Deli on 19th Street, but I think they're only open for lunch.
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I like Athenian Plaka in Bethesda (7833 Woodmont Ave)
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Originally posted by Bagalicious Tangster:
The best is the Greek Deli on 19th Street, but I think they're only open for lunch.
I agree, and they are only open for lunch, almost went today
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Don't most Greek men beat their wives?
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Originally posted by Rhett Miller:
Don't most Greek men beat their wives?
bored Rhett?
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Nah, I was just in Toronto, where I read a news story about a Greek guy who beat his wife to death, which reminded me of a story of someone I know whose Greek ex-husband beat her, which got me to wondering if there is something about the Greek culture that might turn the men into overbearing, misogynistic creeps...
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Originally posted by Rhett Miller:
Don't most Greek men beat their wives?
Dont most American men tote guns, drive SUV's, murder their wives and then go on a fishing trip/ slow speed drive?
perhaps someone needs to think about fallacious generalizations........ (http://www.angelfire.com/ks2/fallacies/fallgen.htm)
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tell that to this writer
http://web.cocc.edu/hum299/colleen/greek/greek_modern_family.htm (http://web.cocc.edu/hum299/colleen/greek/greek_modern_family.htm)
According to all my sources below, the male and female roles of the Greek family have not changed much since the days of old. In modern Greece, one can still find a very strong patriarchal society. Women since the middle to late 1970's have been fighting for their rights, but still are burden with a male dominant society. Only men are in political power, thus making it very difficult for women to find their independence. Political powers in Greece do not want to have, what they call, alien influences in their country; thus making it difficult not only for women, but for the European Unification (EU)as well.
A women is looked upon, by their male partners, as evil, because Eve was deceived by the serpent and not Adam. The most important role for a woman is to keep her virtue for the purification of the family's name. Even today, in a upcoming new world order society, a Greek woman has very little rights in her sexuality, education, and employment. The Greek man is the bread winner and the woman is the homemaker. Though the Greek woman has little to say in a predominately male society, she in reality has the most power.
The woman of the house controls all the domestic affairs of the Greek family. Every domestic detail is decided by the wife, ranging from home furnishings to sex. Though her husband is the bread winner and controls the family economics, it is the woman who decides how and where the money is spent. She also controls the sexual relations between her and her husband; if the wife does not want to have relations with her husband, he is simply out of luck. The Greek wife is differently the head of household, while the Greek husband is the bread winner. The different roles of each the wife and husband is a mutual agreement.
Both male and female in the Greek society prefer to live separate lives. The men socialize with other men and the women socialize with other women. After a hard day at work, the men come together at coffee houses to socialize with one and another; most of the male's social life is done in the evening time, since they do work all day. On the other hand, the woman are free to socialize all day. The women either meet with neighbors for coffee and chat, the go to church functions, or they just simply socialize while doing household chores, such as sewing or preparing meals. It is said both male and female alike prefer this type of arrangement, but we can only learn what a woman desires through a male point of view.
It is difficult learning the true views of the Greek female, since only the men are those who communicate with different anthropologist and write the literature that is significant in learning the female role in the country. The Greek family has always been an important study for anthropologists, because there is such little knowledge on that focuses the Greek female point of view. We must rely on Greek men for many of the answers. Read my recommended sources below for a better understanding of the modern Greek family and the male/female roles in the Greek society.
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Rhett, that is a terribly written examination of Greek culture. Could she use the word breadwinner a little more?
No offense to Central Oregon Community College, but I wouldn't recommend their anthropological classes after reading that tripe.
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Originally posted by Rhett Miller:
tell that to this writer
The writer makes some observations about Greek society, I cant find anything about beatings. Can you?
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I'm just wondering if a society/culture that is very much patriarchal in nature in the year 2004 is likely to have more spousal abuse. My guess is that it would. Would make a good study for a sociologist.
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Don't most hicks chew tabacky? Let's examine this. In this sentence I am assuming that because I saw one country boy chew tobacco, every country boy chews it.
What you asked was beyond wondering. That was accusation.
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My first comment was a question, and I specifically used the word "wondering" in the second comment.
The only tobacco chewer I know is a PHD candidate who grew up in the Farfax County suburbs.
Originally posted by econo:
Don't most hicks chew tabacky? Let's examine this. In this sentence I am assuming that because I saw one country boy chew tobacco, every country boy chews it.
What you asked was beyond wondering. That was accusation.
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It's clear to me that you are aware that all Greek men don't beat their wives. Though, the way you go about these things is baffling. There are countless threads on this board where you ask questions like the one posted earlier, stir up the activity a bit, and then back off. What gives man?
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Originally posted by Rhett Miller:
Don't most Greek men beat their wives?
My first comment was a question
Dont you think you are a pathetic?
I asked it as a question, so clearly it is not offensive.
As the Econo boywonder said, what gives?
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It turns my wife on when I stir up trouble on the chatboards. She complained that all you guys talked about all week was boring music junk. Just my way of ensuring I get some this weekend, my man.
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O! the humanity.
Originally posted by Rhett Miller:
She complained that all you guys talked about all week was boring music junk.
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Originally posted by Rhett Miller:
boring music junk.
It has been boring, but I am sure there are intersting things to talk about, without being offensive, racist or egregious in general.
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Originally posted by Rhett Miller:
It turns my wife on when I stir up trouble on the chatboards. She complained that all you guys talked about all week was boring music junk. Just my way of ensuring I get some this weekend, my man.
Anyone thinking of committing suicide should read this post. It will make their lives worth living.
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Unfortunately, I can't get to the StatCanada report that is cited here. But among the Canadian aboroginal population, there is higher reporting of spousal abuse. Maybe it's the same among Greek-Canadians, not sure, can't get to the report. Maybe you can?
http://www.statcan.ca/english/freepub/85-224-XIE/free.htm (http://www.statcan.ca/english/freepub/85-224-XIE/free.htm)
WHAT FACTORS CONTRIBUTE TO SPOUSAL ABUSE?
There is no single, definitive "cause" of spousal abuse, and anyone - regardless of gender, age, race, ethnicity, education, cultural identity, socioeconomic status, occupation, religion, sexual orientation, physical or mental abilities or personality - may be vulnerable to being abused. Spousal abuse is a complex problem, and there are may be many different contributing factors - at the individual, relationship and societal level. Many experts, however, believe that spousal abuse is linked to inequalities among people in our society and to power imbalances in relationships.
There is increasing understanding recognition that a person's vulnerability to abuse may be increased by factors such as dislocation,13 colonization,14 racism, homophobia, disability, poverty, and isolation.15 Aboriginal women, for example, are more likely to report being abused by a spouse.16
Lack of access to community services and supports, and to the criminal justice system, may further increase a person's vulnerability to being abused - or compound the effects of the abuse.
Factors that increase risk
Although they are not direct causes of abuse, recent statistics indicate that there are a number of factors that, alone or in combination, are associated with an increased risk of abuse. For example, some of the risk factors,17 for both men and women, include:
being a young person
living in a common law relationship
having a partner who periodically drinks heavily
emotional abuse in the relationship (an important predictor of physical violence, and
marital separation (women's risk of being killed increases after separation).
No statistical information is available at this time about factors that are associated with an increased risk of abuse for individuals in same-sex relationships.
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It seems as if the key factor is whether the person abused reports it or not. Perhaps the Aboriginal population of Canada is more prone to reporting such instances as to, say, your average American.
Don't most American women feel ashamed?
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I was able to get into one of the reports, and it said that:
25% of Aboriginal women reported spousal abuse
8% of non-Aboriginal women reported spousal abuse
This, in spite of a more general distrust of police/authority among the Aborginal population...
Originally posted by econo:
It seems as if the key factor is whether the person abused reports it or not. Perhaps the Aboriginal population of Canada is more prone to reporting such instances as to, say, your average American.
Don't most American women feel ashamed?
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Originally posted by Random Citizen:
Originally posted by Rhett Miller:
It turns my wife on when I stir up trouble on the chatboards. She complained that all you guys talked about all week was boring music junk. Just my way of ensuring I get some this weekend, my man.
Anyone thinking of committing suicide should read this post. It will make their lives worth living. [/b]
--that was awesome.
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back to the topic at hand. i think elite restaraunt on 17th (btw Q and R, i think) is awesome. the have great gyros.
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Hold on a minute. Are we sure that eating Greek food is not in some obscure way tantamount to supporting spousal abuse? I've heard analogous arguments presented on this board....
Sure hope not, since I eat the stuff regularly. It won't do for quick, Metro-accessible take-out, but there is a fabulous Greek restaurant in Kentlands (Gaithersburg, MD) called Vasilis. The former location on the other side of Gaithersburg, still operating under the same name, is under different management now and isn't quite as good.
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Originally posted by Rhett Miller:
It turns my wife on when I stir up trouble on the chatboards. She complained that all you guys talked about all week was boring music junk. Just my way of ensuring I get some this weekend, my man.
Maybe she should have married a Greek man.
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if you take your Greek food on the Metro, you will be wrestled to the ground, cuffed, and arrested.
have you considered doomlink? (http://www.alex.to/doomlink)